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@ShadowWizard I'm mad and disappointed that it went from an event focused on creating interest for tech/dev that was accessible to any kid, regardless of their gender, to something that's only for girls now.

Like boys aren't interested to see what mom or dad does.

Journeyman Geek

:/

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Tinkeringbell

@Derpy Music on loop is great :)

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell oh, it's for real? Boys are not allowed while girls are? That's something worth reporting to some local media. I thought it was said as some kind of lame joke.

Magisch

12:07 PM

@Tinkeringbell the rationale is that boys don't need help realising their interest in technology, and that any boys present might occupy spots that could be filled by girls instead

user194636

zero sum philosophy

Magisch

same reason my former school has a girl's programming day where middle school girls can get a day school off to find out about programming and learn stuff

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Which is the lamest excuse I've ever heard for an event that doesn't have a max limit of spots.

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell depends what music! It can become boring...

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch the odd thing in my culture is... there's a crapload of girls in CS. And that dosen't really help with sexism very much...

(though why they're in CS is a bit of an odd story)

Tinkeringbell

12:09 PM

@ShadowWizard I put up a childhood pop band that was in the news last week for doing a possible reunion :P Their songs are cheesy but manage to cheer me up :)

we are back, back in black. Making up the story as we cover any tracks

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell I've also heard that the presence of boys in such events might discourage girls from participating

that was the reason for the specially funded girls tech club at my school when we challenged it as student government, anyways

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek probably because the males are being intimidated by the females so by being sexist they try to appear strong in front of their friends. Or something like that. :)

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch You don't fix that by segregating people... You fix the fear, not the symptom.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard naw, people in general just suck ;)

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell It's not that I necessarily disagree, It's just not how things work out

user194636

12:10 PM

attempting to enforce equality of outcome depresses me no end

Magisch

I'm just glad something's being done

extra funding for a tech club at school is always a good thing, for instance

Derpy

clearly, there is an evident solution.

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Sorry. Stuff like this just makes me mad/sad/disappointed and whatever other word can be used to describe a negative feeling. Perhaps I'm preaching to the choir, and I certainly didn't want it to turn into a rant.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy Stop teaching computer science?

user194636

Replace everyone with robots

Magisch

12:12 PM

@Tinkeringbell I'm always careful in these discussions, because I'm essentially arguing for my own privilege there

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell all good! Now that I understand the example I see why you feel that way. Now have a coffee!

Derpy

@ShadowWizard no, I was thinking of the Harrison Bergeron one.

Shadow Wizard

!!/coffee Tinker

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@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Mocha for @Tinker

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy oh of course

Tinkeringbell

12:12 PM

@SmokeDetector Ugh... mocha. You should know by now I only drink lattes!

Derpy

go! Everypony! sing with me!

In Our Town (The Cutie Map) | MLP: FiM [HD]

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@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Macchiato for @Tinker

Shadow Wizard

Better? ^

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Much :D

Shadow Wizard

Yay!

Magisch

12:14 PM

but we are in a world trending towards enforcing equality of outcome

Shadow Wizard

Oh, this reminds me.. forgot to rant about the coffee in Rhodes. It's terrible. :(

user194636

is it wrong to flag ponies

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard Greece?

Shadow Wizard

user194636

oops

Shadow Wizard

12:15 PM

@JourneymanGeek yup. One of its islands. :)

Journeyman Geek

ah

Shadow Wizard

@PaulWhite what. did. you. do. ?

:P

user194636

only in my mind 🙂

Shadow Wizard

Worst feeling #121: hearing a developer of crucial product say "ooops". ;)

@PaulWhite go into Cleansing then! :D

user194636

I may need full Reprogramming

Shadow Wizard

12:17 PM

@Derpy can arrange that. Let me see...

Tinkeringbell

@PaulWhite I really need a 'turn it off and on again'. Just a few more hours before I can crash land into a bed, I guess

user194636

sleep is a wonderful thing indeed

Shadow Wizard

in Shadow's Den, Dec 11 '14 at 11:06, by SPArchaeologist

Congratulations @ShadowWizard,

You have been chosen to participate in our exclusive Unicorn Academy program. Please, report to the Canterlot Magic University to be filled with the course detail.

A new world full of friendship and cupcakes awaits you!

@Paul ^

Surely there's a place for you too in that Academy. ;)

Derpy

@PaulWhite would not be original enough. That threat was already made by a room owner (and possibly staff member?) once, at least from what I know.

user194636

k

Shadow Wizard

12:20 PM

@Derpy and still you are here, unscathed and as pony as always. :)

Hope those RO/staff are not RO and staff by now.

Derpy

@ShadowWizard I don't know, that is something that I just caught rumors about. Don't know when or where it happened, IF in the first place.

Magisch

I can feel journeyman's blood pressure rising

Derpy

@ShadowWizard ye had to remember me about that message, did you?

That was a reference to Raycord, a very promising fan game that was probably dropped by now.

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch ?

@Derpy the one you told about the other day not long ago? The server admin?

Magisch

@ShadowWizard unrelated, about an edit to his question

Shadow Wizard

12:27 PM

oh

By Sonic?

Derpy

@ShadowWizard no, the message I replied to.

and just for sake of completion, this was the game that was never made.

Raycord Legends - Official teaser

Keyboardmania?

@Derpy ohh

wait, better link to the original "trailer"

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch buh... well, hope he's used to those by now, and will just rollback with no drama. :)

Journeyman Geek

12:30 PM

@Magisch I'm usually ok with edits!

Not here!

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek I assume you'd be if they don't change the meaning of your post

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch BritE to AmE is not cool

intentionaly stylistic changes? not cool

also if he bugs me about it on normal chat... erm...

:)

WHICH REMINDS ME...

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch it's not the meaning, it's the way @Journeyman say things.

It's the... tone.

Bart

@JourneymanGeek go work with Unity3D and enjoy both BritE and AmE in a single API :D

doppelgreener

@Bart [screaming internally]

Journeyman Geek

12:35 PM

@ShadowWizard its the 'voice'

Bart

@doppelgreener "MonoBehaviour", but also "Color"

Journeyman Geek

@Bart I have a slightly distinct way of 'speaking'. Funny thing is someone was complaining about an edit cause the edits made it sound less like me.

Shadow Wizard

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@JourneymanGeek I find it weird, since @Sonic appears to be able to learn, and he did learn to avoid certain things. Not sure why he keeps doing it to your posts...

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard I think he does it to all the posts he can.

Somewhat

^ since he's the regular of MSE

Shadow Wizard

12:38 PM

I get it that he doesn't understand your unique tone and way of saying things, but it's legit, readable, and doesn't need to be edited or changed.

@Sonic, if you follow... ^ (I'm saying this in good way, not judging or criticizing)

Somewhat

@ShadowWizard copyediting

doppelgreener

i gather there's an attitude of "i'm helping!!" behind all those actions. more actions and edits = more helping!

Magisch

I'm helping ... myself to another cup of tea now :D

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard tbh I think he knows it annoys me ;p

or thinks it does anyway

Shadow Wizard

@doppelgreener no... it's not. He has sort of asperger, he once told about it in a post. He has no bad intents, I'm sure of it.

Journeyman Geek

12:40 PM

@ShadowWizard and OCD

@ShadowWizard he's also kinda aware that he's....

Shadow Wizard

maybe... interesting combo. lol

Journeyman Geek

challenging

but refuses to change those bits

I mean, I know its hard

Shadow Wizard

Guess that's why he's chat banned.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard ya

Shadow Wizard

Banging the head into the wall too many times result in head being injured...

Journeyman Geek

12:41 PM

well that incident where he kept pushing my buttons ;)

I probably should have kicked him for his own good, but yanno?

doppelgreener

@ShadowWizard well i mean ... i don't mean to suggest it really is helping :P

Journeyman Geek

@doppelgreener well, it might but... at some point...

I quite literally write my posts in a single sitting, over maybe 10-15 minutes

I do a quick spellcheck, but sometimes I miss stuff, especially if its one of those meta posts where I'm focused more on the message than the details.

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek but that won't make him learn...

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard well, I don't think my approach of patience to the breaking point helped either.

I'd totally have left this place

I literally had someone come over and tell me "hey, you should come back, shog handled it"

Wes

Okay simple question but.

is this really the place for this?????

Journeyman Geek

12:46 PM

lol

Yes?

;p

Wes

I don't know what your talking about but it looks like your complaining about one member.

Journeyman Geek

@Wes Yup

Somewhat

If you know about the history, then it's not that surprising...

Wes

Okay I would have thought that a private room would be more appropiate

user194636

Still, Wes has a point. It's not really polite to talk about someone who can't defend themselves.

Wes

12:47 PM

Ignore me.

Journeyman Geek

@PaulWhite well, that's true

Somewhat

Because some of us had complained about that that many times, and even made Shog left this room...

Journeyman Geek

@Wes naw, it's ok to be a voice of sanity ;)

user194636

@JourneymanGeek I occasionally say stuff that is true. It keeps people confused.

Wes

oh s???9

Journeyman Geek

12:48 PM

@Wes yeah, we're discussing someone who did something on meta, and isn't here cause of something he did here, and isn't here now.

And ya, that's not fair to him

though it started with someone asking about one of my posts (I rolled back the edits) edited by that user. Which is totally fine here ;)

Somewhat

Sep 1 at 17:55, by Shog9

My being here is a waste of my time and yours.

Wes

Anyway I kind of saw controversy in meta. Yesterday & today. was curious. But remember these rooms tavern is public. And even if the person who isn't here can't be they can still read.

Journeyman Geek

@Wes shrug people can find me easily

and I'm sure he'll be aware

Shadow Wizard

@Wes no need to tell me, such a person caused me to get a week chat ban.

Journeyman Geek

@Wes oh maaaan, ya. we were talking about it most of the day. Still waiting for an official answer ;)

user194636

12:51 PM

hasn't it been more like a week?

Journeyman Geek

@PaulWhite oh... er...

Wes

I saw yesterday.

Journeyman Geek

I THINK it was related to the last twitter drama.

Wes

but then I assume I don't see most dramas.

Journeyman Geek

hah

Wes

12:52 PM

hardly every being logged into stack exchange.

Journeyman Geek

this is SE

user194636

it's nice we have to qualify twitter drama events these days

Journeyman Geek

most drama is in the open if you know where to look

user194636

perhaps we should start a numbering system

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Wes

12:52 PM

ironically a HNQ alerted me to the drama with HNQ (sorry if that abbreviation is the wrong one.

Journeyman Geek

@PaulWhite I'd mention the people involved but that would snowball ...

It is correct

Shadow Wizard

@Wes how so? MSE isn't on HNQ.

Somewhat

Featured Meta post, not really HNQ, but...

user194636

imagine if it were

Shadow Wizard

oh

Somewhat

12:54 PM

Shadow Wizard

??

user194636

presumably some user script running the HNQ formula for meta.se

Shadow Wizard

Real hotness isn't in percentage... whatever script it is, it's wrong from the core. :)

Wes

@Somewhat something on the sidebar

user194636

best kind of wrong

Shadow Wizard

12:55 PM

(pretty sure it's not percentage, otherwise it couldn't be more than 100%)

Somewhat

it's in decimal, yes...

Wes

129% better than everywhere else?

Shadow Wizard

There are the hotness points as tooltip in stackexchange.com

Wes

129% hotter than ambient room temperature?

Somewhat

it's the raw score though, so it's not affected by the unknown per-site modifier (and MSE is not even included on HNQ, so...)

Shadow Wizard

12:57 PM

Huh! 127.76 is the hotness points of the hottest question on SE right now.

So @JourneymanGeek's question pass even that. Kudos!

Somewhat

but 20% is the minimum average of a question going into HNQ

Wes

hate that hot questions thing. No willpower. (ooh click bait) let me click

user194636

one could calculate a meaningful percentage where 100% = minimal hotness needed to appear on HNQ

Shadow Wizard

Why the "%"? It's not percent.

Wes

1 hour later sugar wasn't I supposed to be looking up memory allocation.

Somewhat

12:58 PM

@ShadowWizard blame the creator :)

Shadow Wizard

@Somewhat who is... ?

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Somewhat

@ShadowWizard Ilmari Karonen

Shadow Wizard

ohh

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