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12:00
and it was a pretty high level dude, so I kinda knew I wouldn't get the job
Couldn't you ask to postpone the interview?
A good chunk of applications I put in go into /dev/null
@PaulWhite sometimes it's HR red tape
@ShadowWizard oh, he cancelled last minute
@JourneymanGeek Reminds me of Meta. ;)
12:00
e.g. you know who you want to hire but they require you to do interviews
(or bounties on meta...)
21 hours ago, by Shadow Wizard
@PaulWhite you mean reputation thrown into the void, with no hope to affect anything.
lol
(heck, if SE finally decides to expand the CM team, its not going to be a no brainer application this time)
user194636
@Magisch yes I understand why/how it happens, I just don't think it makes any sense
I'd expect they'll hire at least temporarily now with Catija on parental leave for few months.
user194636
not that the world is required to make sense I suppose
12:02
@PaulWhite well that specific company kinda is a good fit for what I want for technical side stuff
but I can't apply back a year, and I need to decide if its worth it.
@ShadowWizard apparently cat's a kickass CM but a bit crap at that being on leave thing XD
@PaulWhite sometimes going through the motions is easier then changing institutional processes
user194636
still, it's a waste of everyone's time. that's my only point.
@ShadowWizard sorry, I was doing some soul restoration rituals. Basically, listening to My Past Is Not Today on loop
@PaulWhite one of my interviewers was grumpy
the other... didn't show up
user194636
yeah those wouldn't be positive signs
12:04
nope
@ShadowWizard I'm mad and disappointed that it went from an event focused on creating interest for tech/dev that was accessible to any kid, regardless of their gender, to something that's only for girls now.
Like boys aren't interested to see what mom or dad does.
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@Derpy Music on loop is great :)
@Tinkeringbell oh, it's for real? Boys are not allowed while girls are? That's something worth reporting to some local media. I thought it was said as some kind of lame joke.
12:07
@Tinkeringbell the rationale is that boys don't need help realising their interest in technology, and that any boys present might occupy spots that could be filled by girls instead
user194636
zero sum philosophy
same reason my former school has a girl's programming day where middle school girls can get a day school off to find out about programming and learn stuff
@Magisch Which is the lamest excuse I've ever heard for an event that doesn't have a max limit of spots.
@Tinkeringbell depends what music! It can become boring...
@Magisch the odd thing in my culture is... there's a crapload of girls in CS. And that dosen't really help with sexism very much...
(though why they're in CS is a bit of an odd story)
12:09
@ShadowWizard I put up a childhood pop band that was in the news last week for doing a possible reunion :P Their songs are cheesy but manage to cheer me up :)
we are back, back in black. Making up the story as we cover any tracks
@Tinkeringbell I've also heard that the presence of boys in such events might discourage girls from participating
that was the reason for the specially funded girls tech club at my school when we challenged it as student government, anyways
@JourneymanGeek probably because the males are being intimidated by the females so by being sexist they try to appear strong in front of their friends. Or something like that. :)
@Magisch You don't fix that by segregating people... You fix the fear, not the symptom.
@ShadowWizard naw, people in general just suck ;)
@Tinkeringbell It's not that I necessarily disagree, It's just not how things work out
user194636
12:10
attempting to enforce equality of outcome depresses me no end
I'm just glad something's being done
extra funding for a tech club at school is always a good thing, for instance
clearly, there is an evident solution.
@Magisch Sorry. Stuff like this just makes me mad/sad/disappointed and whatever other word can be used to describe a negative feeling. Perhaps I'm preaching to the choir, and I certainly didn't want it to turn into a rant.
@Derpy Stop teaching computer science?
user194636
Replace everyone with robots
12:12
@Tinkeringbell I'm always careful in these discussions, because I'm essentially arguing for my own privilege there
@Tinkeringbell all good! Now that I understand the example I see why you feel that way. Now have a coffee!
@ShadowWizard no, I was thinking of the Harrison Bergeron one.
!!/coffee Tinker
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Mocha for @Tinker
@Derpy oh of course
12:12
@SmokeDetector Ugh... mocha. You should know by now I only drink lattes!
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Macchiato for @Tinker
Better? ^
@ShadowWizard Much :D
12:14
but we are in a world trending towards enforcing equality of outcome
Oh, this reminds me.. forgot to rant about the coffee in Rhodes. It's terrible. :(
user194636
is it wrong to flag ponies
@ShadowWizard Greece?
user194636
oops
12:15
@JourneymanGeek yup. One of its islands. :)
@PaulWhite what. did. you. do. ?
:P
user194636
only in my mind 🙂
Worst feeling #121: hearing a developer of crucial product say "ooops". ;)
@PaulWhite go into Cleansing then! :D
user194636
I may need full Reprogramming
12:17
@Derpy can arrange that. Let me see...
@PaulWhite I really need a 'turn it off and on again'. Just a few more hours before I can crash land into a bed, I guess
user194636
sleep is a wonderful thing indeed
in Shadow's Den, Dec 11 '14 at 11:06, by SPArchaeologist
Congratulations @ShadowWizard,

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@Paul ^
Surely there's a place for you too in that Academy. ;)
@PaulWhite would not be original enough. That threat was already made by a room owner (and possibly staff member?) once, at least from what I know.
user194636
k
12:20
@Derpy and still you are here, unscathed and as pony as always. :)
Hope those RO/staff are not RO and staff by now.
@ShadowWizard I don't know, that is something that I just caught rumors about. Don't know when or where it happened, IF in the first place.
I can feel journeyman's blood pressure rising
@ShadowWizard ye had to remember me about that message, did you?
That was a reference to Raycord, a very promising fan game that was probably dropped by now.
@Magisch ?
@Derpy the one you told about the other day not long ago? The server admin?
@ShadowWizard unrelated, about an edit to his question
12:27
oh
By Sonic?
@ShadowWizard no, the message I replied to.
and just for sake of completion, this was the game that was never made.
Keyboardmania?
@Derpy ohh
wait, better link to the original "trailer"
@Magisch buh... well, hope he's used to those by now, and will just rollback with no drama. :)
12:30
@Magisch I'm usually ok with edits!
Not here!
@JourneymanGeek I assume you'd be if they don't change the meaning of your post
@Magisch BritE to AmE is not cool
intentionaly stylistic changes? not cool
also if he bugs me about it on normal chat... erm...
:)
WHICH REMINDS ME...
@Magisch it's not the meaning, it's the way @Journeyman say things.
It's the... tone.
@JourneymanGeek go work with Unity3D and enjoy both BritE and AmE in a single API :D
@Bart [screaming internally]
12:35
@ShadowWizard its the 'voice'
@doppelgreener "MonoBehaviour", but also "Color"
@Bart I have a slightly distinct way of 'speaking'. Funny thing is someone was complaining about an edit cause the edits made it sound less like me.
:D
@JourneymanGeek I find it weird, since @Sonic appears to be able to learn, and he did learn to avoid certain things. Not sure why he keeps doing it to your posts...
@ShadowWizard I think he does it to all the posts he can.
^ since he's the regular of MSE
12:38
I get it that he doesn't understand your unique tone and way of saying things, but it's legit, readable, and doesn't need to be edited or changed.
@Sonic, if you follow... ^ (I'm saying this in good way, not judging or criticizing)
@ShadowWizard copyediting
i gather there's an attitude of "i'm helping!!" behind all those actions. more actions and edits = more helping!
I'm helping ... myself to another cup of tea now :D
@ShadowWizard tbh I think he knows it annoys me ;p
or thinks it does anyway
@doppelgreener no... it's not. He has sort of asperger, he once told about it in a post. He has no bad intents, I'm sure of it.
12:40
@ShadowWizard and OCD
@ShadowWizard he's also kinda aware that he's....
maybe... interesting combo. lol
challenging
but refuses to change those bits
I mean, I know its hard
Guess that's why he's chat banned.
@ShadowWizard ya
Banging the head into the wall too many times result in head being injured...
12:41
well that incident where he kept pushing my buttons ;)
I probably should have kicked him for his own good, but yanno?
@ShadowWizard well i mean ... i don't mean to suggest it really is helping :P
@doppelgreener well, it might but... at some point...
I quite literally write my posts in a single sitting, over maybe 10-15 minutes
I do a quick spellcheck, but sometimes I miss stuff, especially if its one of those meta posts where I'm focused more on the message than the details.
@JourneymanGeek but that won't make him learn...
@ShadowWizard well, I don't think my approach of patience to the breaking point helped either.
I'd totally have left this place
I literally had someone come over and tell me "hey, you should come back, shog handled it"
Wes
Wes
Okay simple question but.
is this really the place for this?????
12:46
lol
Yes?
;p
Wes
Wes
I don't know what your talking about but it looks like your complaining about one member.
If you know about the history, then it's not that surprising...
Wes
Wes
Okay I would have thought that a private room would be more appropiate
user194636
Still, Wes has a point. It's not really polite to talk about someone who can't defend themselves.
Wes
Wes
12:47
Ignore me.
@PaulWhite well, that's true
Because some of us had complained about that that many times, and even made Shog left this room...
@Wes naw, it's ok to be a voice of sanity ;)
user194636
@JourneymanGeek I occasionally say stuff that is true. It keeps people confused.
Wes
Wes
oh s???9
12:48
@Wes yeah, we're discussing someone who did something on meta, and isn't here cause of something he did here, and isn't here now.
And ya, that's not fair to him
though it started with someone asking about one of my posts (I rolled back the edits) edited by that user. Which is totally fine here ;)
Sep 1 at 17:55, by Shog9
My being here is a waste of my time and yours.
Wes
Wes
Anyway I kind of saw controversy in meta. Yesterday & today. was curious. But remember these rooms tavern is public. And even if the person who isn't here can't be they can still read.
@Wes shrug people can find me easily
and I'm sure he'll be aware
@Wes no need to tell me, such a person caused me to get a week chat ban.
@Wes oh maaaan, ya. we were talking about it most of the day. Still waiting for an official answer ;)
user194636
12:51
hasn't it been more like a week?
@PaulWhite oh... er...
Wes
Wes
I saw yesterday.
I THINK it was related to the last twitter drama.
Wes
Wes
but then I assume I don't see most dramas.
Wes
Wes
12:52
hardly every being logged into stack exchange.
this is SE
user194636
it's nice we have to qualify twitter drama events these days
most drama is in the open if you know where to look
user194636
perhaps we should start a numbering system
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Wes
Wes
12:52
ironically a HNQ alerted me to the drama with HNQ (sorry if that abbreviation is the wrong one.
@PaulWhite I'd mention the people involved but that would snowball ...
It is correct
@Wes how so? MSE isn't on HNQ.
Featured Meta post, not really HNQ, but...
user194636
imagine if it were
user194636
presumably some user script running the HNQ formula for meta.se
Real hotness isn't in percentage... whatever script it is, it's wrong from the core. :)
Wes
Wes
@Somewhat something on the sidebar
user194636
best kind of wrong
12:55
(pretty sure it's not percentage, otherwise it couldn't be more than 100%)
it's in decimal, yes...
Wes
Wes
129% better than everywhere else?
There are the hotness points as tooltip in stackexchange.com
Wes
Wes
129% hotter than ambient room temperature?
it's the raw score though, so it's not affected by the unknown per-site modifier (and MSE is not even included on HNQ, so...)
12:57
Huh! 127.76 is the hotness points of the hottest question on SE right now.
So @JourneymanGeek's question pass even that. Kudos!
but 20% is the minimum average of a question going into HNQ
Wes
Wes
hate that hot questions thing. No willpower. (ooh click bait) let me click
user194636
one could calculate a meaningful percentage where 100% = minimal hotness needed to appear on HNQ
Why the "%"? It's not percent.
Wes
Wes
1 hour later sugar wasn't I supposed to be looking up memory allocation.
12:58
@ShadowWizard blame the creator :)
@Somewhat who is... ?
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