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Pandya

1:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek Namaskar :)

Btw, how often is Area51 stats updated? 24 hours or more?

Journeyman Geek

1:53 AM

Vanakkam :p

Not sure

Dukeling

@Pandya Naskarma?

Pandya

2:54 AM

@Dukeling It's greetings we use. Actually that word is in Sanskrit. नमस्कार:

Journeyman Geek

3:17 AM

@Dukeling and Vannakam is the tamil version

Shadow Wizard

6:39 AM

@Dukeling reopened. Some (many) people on SO close blindly any old question, then usually also delete them.

I'm afraid this effort is pointless, 5 others will close it again, and 10-20 users will delete it. :(

Martin

8:09 AM

I tried to give the OP here at least the information I was able to: Tag subscriptions and “Watch tag”. But I have to say I have never seen the tag-tooltip in the way shown in the screenshot. (I only see watch/unwatch tag and ignore tag - but I've never seen the "Manage subscription" button.)

I wonder whether somebody else have some advice.

Shadow Wizard

8:30 AM

@Martin yes I see it in tags I subscribed to in the past directly via the "subscribe" link in the tag popup.

I believe they just keep is as backward compatibility, i.e. people can no longer subscribe directly to tags.

Martin

By subscribe you mean "email subscription" - not just watching the tag, right?

Did you experience the same problem the OP describes - that they stopped receiving emails?

Ir seems that it works for the new subscriptions, but no more for the subscription made before the new feature. — Sebastien Palcoux 2 days ago

Shadow Wizard

@Martin yup

Guess it's borked.

Martin

I see. So probably this can be considered as an unresolved bug. (I have found this - which is marked as status completed: I stopped receiving tag filter subscription notification emails.)

Shadow Wizard

Last one was in October 4th. o_O

Didn't even notice as I'm not really... watching it.

Well, it appears to be broken again, didn't get email since October 4th. — Shadow Wizard 19 secs ago

Martin

I see.

I obviously misinterpreted your message - I though that your subscription might be to a tag (tags) with no questions since October 4. :-)

We will see what this diamond-bearer says about the issue.

Terminological question: How should I refer to non-mod users with diamonds by their names? Stack Exchange staff? Stack Exchange employees? (I think I've heard the term overlords on some per-site metas...)

Mithrandir

8:42 AM

Either works.

Journeyman Geek

@Martin I call them Staff, CMs or "Our Benevolent Corporate Overlords" or TPTB

formally though, dev or CM works if you know. Staff if you don't

I wouldn't recommend TPTB - no one really gets that

Martin

Maybe with including the WP link: TPTB. :-)

In any case, thanks for the response and the clarification.

Journeyman Geek

ah

We used to refer to folks from the company that wrote a game we played as such ;p

Mithrandir

9:12 AM

Cotija, Shepsog9, Jon EriKesong-puti, Rabertam Cartaino, ĠbeJNat, aniRushon, Grate Note, JÄdelost, herrgardsostboat.

And of course you can't leave out Edam Lear. And balfoura.

^this is how you refer to non-mod users with diamonds

Journeyman Geek

That's cheesy

Tinkeringbell

Talking of cheese... did anyone of you ever try smoked cheese? My mom had some for her birthday party yesterday, and I liked it a lot :)

Journeyman Geek

livescience.com/26537-cheese-fire-norway.html

Mithrandir

9:28 AM

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, I like it, but we don't have it too often

→ 31 messages moved to Chimney

Shadow Wizard

@Martin overlords is insulting, don't use it.

Used especially by anti-SE trolls like Evan, and others who just hate the system.

(or who are not aware what it means)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard I use it in a humourous way

And I kinda like the system!

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek sure, but people like Evan are not.

Journeyman Geek

Well some of it anyway

Evan's Evan though

but we can take the sting out of the word by using with love and humour ;)

Martin

I'm pretty sure I have seen (on a per-site-meta) the word "overlords" used by mods. In any case, I'll keep the warning in mind. (I'd guess I prefer a more official term anyway. Probably I am more formal than I though.)

Shadow Wizard

9:41 AM

@Tinkeringbell yummy!

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard We should all start speaking a language Evan doesn't speak then :P I'm pretty sure people like that speak normal English too ;)

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell Hebrew? ;)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard I can do Shalom! :P

But that's as far as most of my Hebrew goes ;)

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell well, these days it's pointless anyway since translating back to English is easy than ever. e.g. anyone can understand what אין טעם לנסות, זה אבוד מראש means. :D

Journeyman Geek

or read it

Hebrew's a unique script, right?

Mithrandir

9:52 AM

Well. The current script used for Hebrew is actually Assyrian; the original Hebrew script hasn't been used for millennia.

But aside from Aramaic, no modern language other than Hebrew uses that script, correct.

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek unique in what sense?

Journeyman Geek

Well, tamil is the only language that uses its script

Shadow Wizard

Well, "א" is used in Mathematics

Aleph number

In mathematics, and in particular set theory, the aleph numbers are a sequence of numbers used to represent the cardinality (or size) of infinite sets that can be well-ordered. They are named after the symbol used to denote them, the Hebrew letter aleph ( ℵ {\displaystyle \aleph } ) (though in older mathematics books the letter aleph is often printed upside down by accident, partly because a Monotype matrix for aleph was mistakenly constructed the wrong way up).The cardinality of the natural numbers is ℵ ...

Maybe others used for some things too, but yeah, not used by any other language. :)

heh, that's a weird font for the Aleph letter... @Mithrandir any idea what font it is? ^^

Mithrandir

Sorry, no idea. I know nothing about fonts; scripts are more my forte ;)

Shadow Wizard

:)

So write a script that finds the font! :D

Reverse Font Search

Journeyman Geek

10:09 AM

I got my 11th reversal badge :(

Shadow Wizard

Why sad?

Enjoy the gold! :D

Somewhat

Imma reversing your reverse badge

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard for the themes post

also, its like most of my badges are those ;p

I'd love some less downvote tainted gold

Shadow Wizard

10:51 AM

@JourneymanGeek you mean one of the themes posts... the main post is at -222 now with answers at 200+

Journeyman Geek

hah yes, one of them

Still, reversals are one of those...

Shadow Wizard

Looks like most active users just don't like the change...

Journeyman Geek

the answers are fun, sometimes useful but...

Well, tbh, that's a natural reaction.

there's even a SE meme about it

meta.stackexchange.com/search?q=eeek

Shadow Wizard

Moving cheese?

Journeyman Geek

older ;)

I'd rather SE, well

Shadow Wizard

10:53 AM

@JourneymanGeek oh, think that back when it started it was more in humor, the change announcements weren't so heavily downvoted.

Journeyman Geek

if they can focus on getting a solid base (cause frankly one of my big issues with SE's management is how unfocused it seems sometimes) they can probably fix some of the stuff people are mad at

Shadow Wizard

Looks like people are mad at taking away the uniqueness of each site, they can't fix this.

Journeyman Geek

Well, its not just the sites with the super bespoke themes tho

Shadow Wizard

All sites look the same now, which is indeed a big blow for the regulars of the sites which had special design.

Journeyman Geek

(heh, SU looks almost the same as it before. Maybe its why I am still gruntled

On the other hand

new designs was one of those massive bottlenecks that slowed down things

and it feels a lot like, well

SE's basically trying to pay off as much technical debt as possible - and this is kinda one of those things.

SmokeDetector

11:41 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, body starts with title and ends in url, potentially bad ns for domain in body, potentially bad keyword in body (294): BioFluxe Forskolin I will die because of my weight by yoyohoney on ham.SE

Journeyman Geek

(the move to .net core is probably pre-emptive. And eventually opens up the option if running SE web or db tier servers on Linux if needed)

Somewhat

Running SE on Arduino

Shadow Wizard

Running SE on a cloud

Mithrandir

Running SE on dead badgers

Aibobot

@ShadowWizard actually, some of the SE Enterprise instances allegedly run on azure

@Somewhat eh, not linux

@Mithrandir eh not yet

Shadow Wizard

11:54 AM

@Journeyman? You changed! :D

@Aibobot woof! Indeed! :D

Aibobot

@ShadowWizard almost time to go home, and didn't feel like typing on my phone

Shadow Wizard

:D

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Galaxy Y - White Screen Problem by ouni on android.SE

Aibobot

I got about 5 minutes on the clock

but will take a little longer to leave

Shadow Wizard

@Aibobot why

Somewhat

11:57 AM

queuing on the only clocking device...

Shadow Wizard

Cloaking device?

cloaking technology in action

►

Journeyman Geek

12:28 PM

@ShadowWizard handover takes a while

Shadow Wizard

hangover, you mean?

Somewhat

you already got another job?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Nice answer to that theme thing ;) You beat me to it... I was trying to write an answer that said 'you already can, it's called 'userscripts'':P

Shadow Wizard

@Somewhat hehe think he means handing over the daily job to the one replacing him.

@Tinkeringbell lol, thanks! And sorry for stealing possible rep from you! :)

Somewhat

after handover, get hangover, okay...

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Tinkeringbell

12:37 PM

@ShadowWizard I'll just have to the next 10-year-anniversary contest too now, I guess :P

I can do without a lot of imaginary internet points for now, I haven't even yet figured out how close/reopen voting over here works XD

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell yeah, 200+ rep for each such contest is nice! :D

@Tinkeringbell easy: you close the questions that are off topic (or duplicate) and reopen the questions that are on topic! (or not duplicates) :P

handing over MSE Cheat Sheet 101 to @Tinkeringbell

Tinkeringbell

Hehehe. I mainly struggle with the dupes :) I don't see the dupe sometimes...

Shadow Wizard

wondering if 3 consecutive pings are too much

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Yeah. I got the first notification you know :P

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell well, first two were replies, had to give the proper context... third one was a bonus. :D

I wonder if it's worth starting feature request to let us Reply to chat message without pinging the one posting that message?

EKons

12:42 PM

some people prefer normal talk, others prefer being called by name before every sentence ;-)

Shadow Wizard

i.e. the reply arrow will be there, but no ping.

Tinkeringbell

It's okay.

Shadow Wizard

@EKons huh? What are you doing here?!

pushing @EKons back to Den

:P

EKons

what are you doing here? :D

Shadow Wizard

@EKons drinking beer!

EKons

12:44 PM

goes back to discussion

Journeyman Geek

@EKons he has always been here

Shadow Wizard

lol

Even before Den existed.... ;)

Somewhat

Userscrupt FR: ;<message id> (instead of :<message id>) to reply without pinging

it will confuse and probably annoy non-userscript though

Shadow Wizard

But then from all the beer I really had to pee badly, so I created the Den. :-D

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell eh I say let the dupes live a while :p

@ShadowWizard ewwwwwww

Shadow Wizard

12:45 PM

@JourneymanGeek no! Burn all the dupes! :D

lol

EKons

@JourneymanGeek dupes are just vertical bars with pointy textboxes attached to them :P

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard well in MSE acting as a sort of helpdesk I don't think overzealous dupe closes help

Somewhat

Let's just dupe all the dupes

EKons

let's burn the dupes after answering them with an exact quote from the target ;-P

Somewhat

Like, Dupe Overflow™

Shadow Wizard

12:48 PM

@JourneymanGeek close yes, delete no. Leaving dupes open on purpose isn't good and will just make the site a mess.

But yeah, I never supported deleting dupes. :)

Many users self delete though, which is pity.

@SmokeDetector thanks

EKons

yuck, a "still alive"

?

that's not a triumph

!

@ShadowWizard ah, Charcoalese :P

Shadow Wizard

1:36 PM

Charred coal isn't tasty enough.

EKons

@ShadowWizard it can make for a Bonfire :P

Shadow Wizard

@SmokeDetector fpu

@EKons too hot

I like my fire medium hot only.

EKons

@ShadowWizard not your bonfire though ;-)

medium-hot is hardly enough to bake the meal you hunted for :P

Shadow Wizard

Huh, just read this now. First time a "Welcome Valued Associate" is written by someone welcoming himself. :D

But yeah... nicely written. :)

EKons

> welcome, me!

Shadow Wizard

1:47 PM

Should we summon him to the Tavern? He surely fits! :P

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard If that's fitting, I'm gone.

Shadow Wizard

omg, his MSE profile is bugged

Khalid El Khatib, New York, NY, USA

1 1

(see the right side)

@Tinkeringbell hmm? Beer? It's the basic thing in Taverns...

EKons

13

Q: Profile page display bug on users "keeping a low profile"

This profile doesn't display properly The right part is way too small and the lines underneath the description aren't aligned.

that isn't SO-specific, tbf

@ShadowWizard ah, that feeling when you figure out the image has been mirrored horizontally

Shadow Wizard

Good old times!

Aug 16 '10 at 17:18, by Shog9

@chacha102 BEER! We're PARCHED here!

You see? Tavern was founded with beer. :D

@EKons indeed

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Q: Some profile pages are messed up in sites with the new responsive design

Few examples across the network: MSE: Physics: IPS.SE: Can this please be fixed? Pretty sure it's related to the responsive design or left nav bar somehow, though can't see what's really causing it.

bug design profile-page responsive-design

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Not true. That message was posted days after the tavern was founded :P

Journeyman Geek

2:02 PM

Real tough guys order a glass of milk :o

EKons

glass of milk? hah, trivial

Tinkeringbell

I want fristi.

EKons

@Tinkeringbell this is a tavern, not a kiosk :D

Tinkeringbell

See. Bye then!

Shadow Wizard

ooops wrong assumption about HTML comments

> This site can’t be reached
> www.goedkoopdrank.nl took too long to respond.

:(

EKons

2:07 PM

@ShadowWizard status-norepro

Shadow Wizard

@EKons probably related to location, luckily imgur can serve people worldwide. :D (while other image hosts/servers only work for people in US/Europe/[specific location here])

EKons

goddammit markdown

@ShadowWizard imgur can serve you only if your browser isn't riddled with ERR_SSL_VERSION_INTERFERENCE

Shadow Wizard

@EKons eww, sounds like hackers are trying to nibble at your SSL

wondering what important info @EKons has on his computer

EKons

@ShadowWizard yeah, very unlikely, it's been going on for months

Shadow Wizard

Ask on SU

EKons

2:14 PM

not sure if I can do that, it looks like it's my internet just sucks

Shadow Wizard

I got good answer when text suddenly became big on Chrome. :)

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Q: Text size suddenly got bigger on all sites on Google Chrome

This morning I started my Google Chrome browser as I do every day. The text size was suddenly bigger than normal, on all sites. I did not change any setting anywhere. If I set the zoom to 90% it looks fine, but this breaks various things (e.g. Stack Exchange chat) so prefer to avoid it if possib...