I find labels like 'progressive' and 'conservative' a bit too broad to be super useful, except when talking in the broadest of generalities. I find most people to have a range of views on specific topics, even when their overall politics clearly lean one way or the other.
Having debated on meta Politics.SE, I don't even know if "free speech" is what it means, or else...
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I very much enjoy a good debate (listening more often than taking part) but the emphasis is on good. Typically this means people being calm and actually persuasive, rather than shouty and emotional.
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I've never really understood the point in taking part if the desired outcome is not to persuade someone to your point of view.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, bad pattern in url answer, blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer: Use FaceTime with the same Apple ID? by John smith on apple.SE
Its boring, its tiring, and some of it isn't even really necessary. On the other hand, I should have a month and half off at some point if all goes well
@Mithrandir Eh. It's misplaced as unsolicited advice on a Q about something entirely different, but it read to me like it was attacking the medical procedure
@Tinkeringbell probably but I'm testing multiple apps and I reached somewhere on all of them. When I tested one for few minutes and I get bored, I'll switch to other
@OptimusPrime Sounds more varied then what I'm doing.... I'm basically running command after command, just to see what the outcome is and what the spaghetti I'm working with is doing
It doesn't help that I haven't even mastered half of the language's commands yet.
my theory on it is, remember before learning. When I was 17, I used to do some freelance works in php and used jQuery for front-end. I found difficulty with JavaScript and jQuery because I can't remember the native function names (because of upper-lower cases), I copied jQuery code from Stack Overflow and other sites, edit it if necessary.
In college, while taking class in JavaScript, my professor, said that the JS function naming follows a specific rule. If the function consist of multiple words, the first word will start with lower case and all other words will start with upper cases. Th…
@OptimusPrime Here it's more that I've learned how to compare e.g. object types but there's about 3 ways of doing it, and I've only been taught one extensively (and that's the one I remember ;) )...
And I'm reading code that uses all three ways of doing something in a quite random way
(e.g. you can do _return something or >> something to do a return )
and both are used, and I am only really familiar with _return yet, so everytime I see >> I have to do a double take ;)
I'm supposed to learn by developing though, and it's coming, ever so slowly
@Somewhat oh, well, it's not a real problem... more of a curiosity. Using Chromium and uMatrix, I noticed it is apparently not working on a single site.
@Magisch It kinda comes with the job? Sometimes you have to run tests, compile stuff, rebuild an environment... at other times you're just not seeing it for a while. And end up having a conversation in the Tavern for the largest part of your working day :P
...one of the nicer thing in No More Sky (a game that only now after 4 updates has reached what was promised on release) is that it gives you a nice sense of perspective.
@Tinkeringbell oh, well, we are fully capable of stealing, killing, torturing.. all for personal gain, because the others are in the red team or even for fun... wonder why people have to lock their door at night?
I'm very tempted to get it, but I fear it would end up in the same state as tons of other games I've bought. Played once for 15 minutes, and me playing Overwatch as usual
@Tinkeringbell outrage... to be fair, it is still better than many other. It was just unfinished, but at least NOW it can be considered a full product.
at least in No Man Sky case the team behind it didn't just run away with the money. They actually fixed the issues, so they have at least my respect for that.
@Bart well... Mighty #9... could say a lot about it, but I think I can summarize in just a single message.
> If you have already delayed your game twice, lied about it so that your bakers have discovered the delay thru Amazon, and your game is full of bug and looks nothing like the "concept arts" you released for the founding campaign, all while you managed to make some guinness record level funds disappear in a indie level low cost style game... It may be not a good idea to start a second kickstarter while your first one is still hanging on a rope
Arrived to speak at @dotnetsoutheast after listening to the whole of Into the Woods while driving. If I happen to bring witches, wolves, bakers and beans into the C# 8 talk, that'll be why...
@YvetteColomb did you see this MSO post: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/374242/578411 ? It needs one more delete vote to get it deleted which I'm happy to cast to be honest but as you're mentioned there I hold back for now in case you want to write a (some?) response.
According to the SO salary calculator, it doesn't matter what sort of developer you are or in which languages you work in Germany - they all get paid the same. Except PHP, no-one wants PHP.
Possibly of interest to regulars on other sites that perceive a problem with argumentative citizens of Stack Overflow turning up and fighting in the comments. I don't get your norms; what are they? workplace.meta.stackexchange.com/q/5555/25356
They're draconian ;) : https://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/89?m=7246083#7246083. When we say comments are for requesting clarification or suggesting improvements, we mean it ;) But while on SO suggesting an improvement might even be 'this doesn't compile, you need to add a )' that's not how stuff on more subjective sites really works.
Because people write from their experience, so merely saying that X is wrong isn't suggesting an improvement. You're then asking the answerer to completely change their answer, and are basically starting a discussion on what's right or wrong to do …
"merely saying that X is wrong isn't suggesting an improvement" - as someone who (over on SO) frequently comments just to say that things are wrong, I strongly agree
"You're then asking the answerer to completely change their answer" - disagree; I don't much mind what happens to the answer as long as my comment indicating the problem with it is visible to future readers
"[this one](interpersonal.meta.stackexcha…) that points out a great way of phrasing your comments so they actually ask for clarification instead of just saying 'you're wrong'" - I think the strategy there is disingenuous.
Sure, instead of saying "Your reasoning is wrong, because of X, and your suggestion is a bad idea that will cause Y, so I recommend against following this answer" I can feign uncertainty and deference and ask "But what about X? It seems to me that doing what you suggest will cause Y; perhaps you could point out the mistake in my obviously-flawed reasoning", but doing so is deliberately dishonest, and I'd feel like a dick.
@MarkAmery If I'd encounter a comment like that, I'd almost certainly say the answer is lacking a form of backup: An explanation of under which circumstances X has worked for the answerer ;)
I understand, it feels a bit weird to deliberately twist my sentences into questions even for me, even after almost a year of being pretty active on IPS. But considering the alternative...
'You're wrong because of X and it will cause Y" is too close to a discussion and opinions. A comment doesn't have enough characters to fully explain and back up that statement.
