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πάντα ῥεῖ

1:07 AM

@Magisch Not to mention to avoid pinging at all here.

Bartbot

....

Journeyman Geek

@πάνταῥεῖ that's not how it works

We're trying to deal with specific issues and try to help improve the mood/environment here

If you're pinging someone with a good reason - ehhhh its fine.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JourneymanGeek I've been missing those good reasons mostly.

Journeyman Geek

@πάνταῥεῖ well, an ongoing conversation like this is one

πάντα ῥεῖ

So ...

Journeyman Geek

1:22 AM

The point here isn't to marginalise anyone. Its to try to help folks find a balance. We try to deal with behaviour, not pick on folks.

πάντα ῥεῖ

Did I really pick on folks, unless asking smokey for brewing tea or coffee ?

Journeyman Geek

In telling Sonic to ping people less?

It wasn't helpful at all

πάντα ῥεῖ

Depends on people, no?

Journeyman Geek

True but I kinda think that its something best handled as situations come along.

We shouldn't be doing this as "the nagging should continue as behaviour improves"

Now that we have attempted to set some ground rules, I'd rather go with gentle reinforcement, positive or negative.

πάντα ῥεῖ

OK, let's see then ...

Journeyman Geek

1:27 AM

And this is something we've talked about and kind of have an idea of

πάντα ῥεῖ

<<< Put's some whiskey in their coffee .. ;-)

Somewhat

1:46 AM

@Somewhat morning...

Somewhat

2:07 AM

needs moar coffee...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

"The reason why we require you to take this class [on government] is because the government mandates it. If you disagree with that, you can use what you learn in this class and overturn this law. But if you do that, the government wins."

Somewhat

anyway, late SEEN is late, but congratulation to RockPaperLizard for joining SoftRecs.SE's mod team, and also thanks to Undo for the duty. Also, with no contest, congratulation to hazzey and Wasabi on Engineering.SE, and also thanks to Trevor and Air :)

That said, no changes in the number of the mods...

Journeyman Geek

2:27 AM

Yup

Somewhat

2:44 AM

anyway, some users want to share their math challenges. However, will MathChallenges.SE proposal be successful, or even exist!?

(Proposal spotlight, since the proposal has the most active discussions in a short time)

Journeyman Geek

hmm

So basically codegolf/PPCG for math?

Math golf?

Somewhat

or Puzzling.SE for math

combine all of them...

Journeyman Geek

I was thinking that too

but unlike puzzling these actually have non arbitrary answers

Somewhat

I guess the multiple approaches are the answers, just like how Math.SE's doing right now...

but yeah, not sure about the boundary of duplicate answers...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:18 AM

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315155/…

@TimPost Has there been any outcome of the review you said "will take a week or two" here?

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog ehhh.

Pings and fast tracking. Maybe a comment might work?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Already left a comment a while ago.

Journeyman Geek

So another one?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Also, this isn't "fast tracking". I'm not saying I want the request implemented - I'm just asking if the review has taken place.

He said it "will take a week or two" to review.

Journeyman Geek

Same difference

I'm sorry man, but the nagging will continue until the stuff people complained about improves.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:27 AM

@JourneymanGeek This isn't "can you please look at [x]" or "please implement [y]".

That is fast-tracking.

Journeyman Geek

It is very much "can you please look at [x]"

Even if you're unaware of it.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Referring to something someone said in a particular post, and asking for back-and-forth discussion, is not "fast-tracking".

It's more prudent to do that in chat rather than in comments.

Journeyman Geek

But but... see, it is this kind of reasoning that has gotten us to this situation at all.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek He's already looked at it and left an answer.

Journeyman Geek

Trust me here

Chat isn't really the best place for it.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:29 AM

@JourneymanGeek "Please avoid extended discussions in comments"

"Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat."

Journeyman Geek

So...

The tavern is meant to be a social space for folks to interact

So talking "shop" all the time means that well... that utility is gone for staff

So they don't hang out as much

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Meaning?

@JourneymanGeek Out of curiosity, have you looked at this link I left a while ago?

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog basically that's why people get annoyed at you for pinging say shog or tim about something in meta

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Those six rules pretty much sum up my interaction here.

Journeyman Geek

Basically they, and we kinda want to sometimes talk about the network in general sure

but but

if your sum of all interaction is what's "work" for them, well

It stops being fun

they leave. We leave.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:33 AM

I suggest you at least skim over the headings for the six rules.

Journeyman Geek

If you expect us to adjust to you, we expect the minimum amount of effort to adjust to... everyone else

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Quite a few of my potential pings toward Shog have been prevented by his 9 rules.

Journeyman Geek

I'll happily yell at @πάνταῥεῖ if he's giving you crap

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog so... I'm a RO here. I've had extensive conversations over what that means, and what I'm expected to do.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Understood, but I don't think that's nice. Let's be nice both ways.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog on the other hand, due to a quirk of... this place, we as a whole kind of also have the responsibility to well...

folks with diamonds here to make sure this is a great place for them too.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:36 AM

There's also quite a few other adjustments, such as my not making edits to your posts to alter the flow, etc.

Journeyman Geek

Am I going to go tell shog "hey, Sonic has issues! Read this Pamphlet! Come back!"?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

There's still a lot of adjustments remaining. But don't say that I haven't made a minimum level of adjustment.

Journeyman Geek

Or can I try to go "hey, we NEED you to change these things, cause it is driving people away"

We quite literally set explicit rules because you said you deal better with those, tbh

It is driving people away

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek I guess it's my fault for assuming that every SE employee is an employee because they are super interested in SE.

> In an autistic friendship, a shared interest is often the glue that keeps the friendship together. Two fanatics of Stack Exchange will be friends because they like Stack Exchange. But they aren’t really interested in seeing the person, they’re interested in talking about Stack Exchange. Therefore, exchanging information is the most important part of the friendship, and who says what and how it is said are of secondary importance.

Journeyman Geek

I'm not going to threaten to kick you. I'm just figuring at some point, if no one actually stepped up and made the hard decisions, and said the painful shit, everyone would be gone.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:40 AM

[SE] is expanded to Stack Exchange in chat

Journeyman Geek

I love computers. I talk about them some days. Sometimes I just grab a water bottle, and an umbrella, and wander off into a park.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek That said...

> If the other autistic person can understand what his friend feels like when he is bothered, then he will stop. His feelings will not have been hurt because of what his friend said; after all, his friend had every right to tell him to stop bothering him. Similarly, an autistic person who does not want to be with another autistic person will not hesitate to say, “I don’t want to be with you.” In both cases, no one’s feelings will be hurt. The truth is better than being polite.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I'm a SU mod. I'm passionate about the site. ON THE OTHER HAND, I tell people, even core users that they need to flag or use other 'formal' methods so I can keep track of it.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

So please continue letting me know about this.

Journeyman Geek

Or other mods to hurry up so I can go to sleep.

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Don't worry. As I said. I'll keep nagging if I see anything that's been a problem. I will also, however have your back as a regular user, and try my best to be mindful about how far to go

The other ROs are kinda helpful there and I've had users with various levels of autistic spectrum so I actually have some experience there.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:43 AM

That's great. Ideally, the minimum level of accommodation would be mutual.

Journeyman Geek

(which helps. I'd probably have kicked you otherwise lol)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Not with me, but that's happened IRL to quite a few of my autistic friends.

Journeyman Geek

That's not a threat or anything.

erm. Kicking?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek as in, "kicked out of school", "kicked out of an establishment", etc.

Journeyman Geek

ah

Well, that's an accomodation we've chosen to make to a point

But ya, nagging is what I prefer for now

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:45 AM

@JourneymanGeek See also:

5

Q: How do I express to others to more quickly let me know about social mistakes I make?

I recently suffered a bit of a fallout in a teaching group I'm frequently a participant in. This was because I kept making brutally honest criticism about their style of teaching (e.g. "your teaching style needs a lot of work because [x]"), which others didn't really like me doing, and those o...

(Stuck Ctrl key)

Journeyman Geek

lol on your phone?

ah

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

The removed message contains "v", so a lack of a Ctrl press made it post "v" instead of pasting in the URL

Journeyman Geek

Well, in a sense, when we talk to you about things like...

"Hey this is creepy"

Even when the statement is addressed at someone else, we're trying to help you see, well..

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

(The situation there is a different, but still real, situation, but the answer is applicable here too.)

Journeyman Geek

how a more "neurotypical" or at least a differently non neurotypical person sees it

that's why we get annoyed when you go "But that specific person hasn't expressed that they don't want me to do it"

Somewhat

3:50 AM

> Ideally, the minimum level of accommodation would be mutual.

I really, really believe that most of us want to accommodate you, just like we want to be accommodated.

But I wonder, why some have tried it hard, but failed, and thus it'd be easier to ignore you...?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

> There are still a lot of adjustments remaining.

Journeyman Geek

@Somewhat tbh. I don't think anyone really knows how to deal with the broader situation

I don't. I'm trying to make it up as I go along ;)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Unrelated question: if I happened to be in Singapore on a long transit on the way to India, and you were free, would you be down for a meetup?

Journeyman Geek

Probably not

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Okay, no problem that you're not really comfortable with it.

Journeyman Geek

3:54 AM

I'm not very social in meatspace and my current job basically leaves me no real free time

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

We probably won't go via Singapore because it's too far from LAX and currently there's no nonstop from LAX to Singapore (other than by United and that's a crap of an airline)

Singapore Airlines' stops in Tokyo or Seoul on the way and we prefer one-stop journeys

Preferably via Europe, so the flights are of equal length, unlike those via East Asia or the Middle East

Journeyman Geek

4:08 AM

also quite a lot of decent airlines hub around here anyway

and I THIIIIINNKKKKKKK india is closer to the US than singapore

Somewhat

4:22 AM

Ugh... I could see a deleted comment on someone's network profile's "all activity" ._.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Just waiting for Air India to come to LAX...they did come to San Francisco.

Booking flights between LAX and Mumbai is a bit of an art, a learned skill.

Ideally it would be between San Diego and Nagpur, but until either of these expands more, we'll have to drive to LA and catch a local flight to Nagpur.

Or pay $3k+ per ticket, instead of $1k+ per ticket otherwise.

Bartbot

4:41 AM

well, I can see San Diego to an indian hub

Nagpur is a regional capital but not really one of the really big metros

Somewhat

dogpuppet detected

Journeyman Geek

Don't mind me switching between bartbot and this lol

I was checking something on my work pc and forgot lol

Somewhat

;p

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:25 AM

@Bartbot San Diego's airport has expanded quite a bit with its international destinations. Ten years ago they only had flights within North America, but now there are flights to the UK, Germany, Japan, and Switzerland.

@Bartbot Nagpur's airport desperately wants to expand but can't due to low demand from international carriers.

@JourneymanGeek I kinda suspected dogpuppetry because "indian" wasn't capitalized

Journeyman Geek

lol

I've mentioned the dogpuppet a lot of times

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

I thought Aibobot was your other sock

@JourneymanGeek We actually flew SAN-LHR-BOM once. It was much more expensive than flying from LAX -> BOM.

chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/69536/… (@Shadow @rene)

Somewhat

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog he changed it to Bartbot ~~for science~~ to test whether partial name pings both or not

aka. "The Bart Ping" incident

:)

Journeyman Geek

5:41 AM

Yup

But I can't change it back for a month

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:56 AM

@Glorfindel chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/69536/…

(Are you OK with routine "Chaos Emerald" dupehammer pings?)

bjb568

6:09 AM

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Starting my undergrad at Berkeley.

Somewhat

I could faintly hear music from there...

Oh wait, wrong school :(

Journeyman Geek

Its spelled differently

Glorfindel

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog sure; I do tend to be busy at certain moments and then I'll just ignore them without notice.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Glorfindel So, to be clear here, you wouldn't mind?

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

6:26 AM

@bjb568 Berkeley? Nice... assume you have full scholarship?

Tinkeringbell

Good morning!

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

> Berkeley is a city in Northern California on the east side of San Francisco Bay. It’s home to the University of California, Berkeley, birthplace of the 1960s Free Speech Movement. The 1914 Sather Tower, known as the Campanile, has views of the campus and the bay. The open-air Hearst Greek Theatre stages major concerts. Clustered on and near Telegraph Avenue, south of the university, are cafes, shops and music stores.

Tinkeringbell

@bjb568 More important than the scholarship: what are you studying?

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@JourneymanGeek why not two Chrome users on same computer? Easier to not make mistakes this way.... ;)

@JourneymanGeek you can ask a mod here to do it. All you need is a ping and to be nice. :P

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard messages from Bartbot are never a mistake!

Journeyman Geek

6:29 AM

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard two different computers lol

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard isn't important ._.

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@JourneymanGeek but you can ask.... ;)

Journeyman Geek

lol

I hardly ever use aibobot lol

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Tinkeringbell Morning! So I noticed that users often refer to you as "Tink"; are you OK with that? People often referred to me as "Ano" but I didn't like it.

Journeyman Geek

no real point

I gotta practice what I preach and all.

Its something unimportant, and I really don't want to waste a CM's time on the aftermath of mild science

though....

let me try something

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog not same thing at all. Tink is just short pingable version of her full name. Ano was a totally "new" name, unrelated to your actual name which I wasn't even aware of when using Ano.

Tink is like Sha.

Or Sonic, actually.

Somewhat

6:32 AM

@Tinkeringbell I believe Maths...

Tinkeringbell

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I would assume Mithrandir already answered that for you

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

Easier to remember, shorter to write.

@Tin is too weird, both because of meaning and too similar to Tim, which makes it dangerous.... ;)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Tinkeringbell He said it's an established nickname. I responded saying that Ano is an established nickname for me, but I eventually expressed that I didn't like it. Would you do the same?

Somewhat

Shad, Journ, Tinke, Balpha

Tinkeringbell

@Somewhat Ah well... That's a bummer. Nothing we can talk about then, I'm horrible at Maths ;)

Journeyman Geek

6:33 AM

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard fixed

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard I should change to Timkeringbell just for that XD

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Somewhat Balpha isn't short version, just a wrong version which is proved to make bal angry. :D

@JourneymanGeek hmm? What's fixed?

Journeyman Geek

@Somewhat as long as I know its me, its fine. geek's actually the preferred short form

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Got my first Blue Apron shipment today. Time to get cooking...

Journeyman Geek

@Bartbot 's nickname SHOULD get fixed once ... caching

since I'm a mod I can force change nicks

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

6:35 AM

@Tinkeringbell no no, must have a space to match the other Tims. So you can be... Timkering Bell!

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Disney ripoff

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

Tim Caring Bell would be the best.

Somewhat

@JourneymanGeek nah... just a "partial username" joke that will ping, since @Geek won't ping you ;p

Journeyman Geek

ahh tr00

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@JourneymanGeek but.... only on SE.com chat... no?

Glorfindel

6:36 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog yes, it's fine.

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@JourneymanGeek but @geek won't ping you.... :(

Bartbot

woof

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard :P But that'd be a bit too masculine for me ;)

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Aibobot welcome back!

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Apparently not

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

6:37 AM

@Tinkeringbell pretty sure there are many females named "Tim"! Let me check...

Journeyman Geek

TIL

I do wonder if the reparenting trick works that way

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

buh can't find... oh well.

I have a female client named "Doron" which is, or was, a 100% male name. So...

Somewhat

> @Bartbot welcome back!

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

:D

Aibobot

There is no Bartbot. ONLY ZUUUUULLLLLL

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

6:40 AM

@Aibobot beware the cat

@Aibobot sit!

@Aibobot bark!

Aibobot

Does not compute

Somewhat

uh oh, this Aibo is scary...

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@JourneymanGeek your dog is untrained!

Somewhat

hopefully doesn't become like this

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

Put @Aibobot in Den for a day, and he'll become as trained as any of the 5 bots in there. :P

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:43 AM

@Tinkeringbell Out of curiosity, are there baby naming laws in the Netherlands? I know Germany and Norway have them.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard You could always ask a Tim to change their name :P

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard well the point of aibobot is mainly to do very little

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Why did you create it?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Tinkeringbell I believe it was originally for suggesting edits.

But those could be done logged out as well.

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell couple of things.

Tinkeringbell

6:45 AM

@JourneymanGeek so it's just a sock, not a real bot..?

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Tinkeringbell one Tim's name is set in Stone... the other Tim is too scary!

:P

Journeyman Geek

Suggesting edits (and being able to keep an eye on it) and using on less trusted systems

@Tinkeringbell ya, sadly

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Aibobot is same as Shadow of the Shadow... ;)

Somewhat

Also, to see how less privileged users see the site... (remember when you can't upvote or comment anywhere? :(

Shadow of the Shadow's Shadow

@Aibobot hello brother sock! :D

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:46 AM

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Mephiles the Dark, you mean?

Tinkeringbell

@Somewhat Hahaha I know. I don't need a sock for that though, I just go to MSE to remember life without mod powers ;)

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Somewhat but @Aibobot got association bonus, so that one isn't relevant for testing anymore. :/

Somewhat

o well :/

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

(@JourneymanGeek has to use yet another sock to test privilege-less user on a site)

Journeyman Geek

I don't really need to yet lol

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard I HNQed .-.

@Tinkeringbell I'm active on a few other sites. ;p

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

6:49 AM

@JourneymanGeek sounds like a kid coming to his parents and saying in small sad voice "I got 100 in that super complicated quiz which I didn't even learn for".... :D

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard I rarely need to see how something works.

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard nearly all of aibo's rep is from 2 questions ;p

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@JourneymanGeek even just to reproduce a reported bug... :)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard eh, maybe but that's not really something that interests me

Most of my MSE stuff's "soft" subjects

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog interesting reference, might change the sock to it if changing again my main.... :)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard "I fell asleep during the exam, scribbled something on the paper in the last 5 min, and got an A"

251

A: My cat sat on my laptop, now the right side of my keyboard types the wrong characters

That's the standard tenkeyless Num Lock key layout found on many PCs. Turn off Num Lock - on my Lenovo, it's Fn + F10, but the combination may vary by manufacturer.

see the first revision

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

6:54 AM

@JourneymanGeek exactly!

Journeyman Geek

on U&L unix.stackexchange.com/questions/399626/… is a actually fun answer.

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@JourneymanGeek yeah yeah, I know. Strike of Luck. :D

Somewhat

@JourneymanGeek was that an abstract art exam?

Journeyman Geek

@Somewhat oddly no

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard It was mildly horrifying

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

I got bunch of questions marked HNQ without meaning to, it just come as a pleasant surprise. IMO. :)

Think the most surprising one was about English word after a "fight" I had in Den about meaning.

14

Q: Can "immortal" be used to describe someone that lives forever, yet can be destroyed?

I am aware of the dictionary definition of the word "immortal": (source) Or in words: living forever; never dying or decaying However, that does not directly imply "can't be destroyed", as far as I can see. My logic (which might be wrong!) tells me that someone might live forever by ...

word-usage meaning-in-context

and...

in Shadow's Den, Mar 22 '16 at 19:00, by Shadow Wizard

Looks like I was right and you were wrong, @Pro - you can be destroyed even if you say you're "immortal". :D

Argument won! :P

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

7:07 AM

cv-pls one-more-close-vote-needed meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315163/…

Journeyman Geek

Done, and ~~dusted~~ delvoted

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog oh the U&L one is the other thing I use aibobot for

posting slightly snarky answers about Kali Linux with odd soviet screwdrive vehicles

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

This user is not my girlfriend.

(@JourneymanGeek @Shadow @Derpy)

Journeyman Geek

good

Somewhat

Derpy's not here

Journeyman Geek

Not sure why I got pinged for that tho 0_0

Somewhat

7:22 AM

unexpected turn of events!?

rene

Nah, that was expected. Just blame the occasional passer by ...

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@JourneymanGeek to show off his new sock, I'd say. :)

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog but she is cute. Enjoy! :D

Somewhat

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard actually, that's what I believe now... since the account was created in the middle of dogpuppet conversation

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Somewhat exactly...

Either this, or someone is playing tricks on poor @Sonic... :D

glares at @Bart

~~Mod~~ Staff can probably know for sure, so I won't be surprised to see Sonic pinging a CM to check who created that account, if it's not him.... :P

Tinkeringbell

7:39 AM

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Absolutely no use in that... that kind of stuff falls under PII and would never be shared.

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Somewhat you don't have any sock? And you, @Tinker? :)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard I have plenty of socks. None of them are online though.

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Tinkeringbell it's obviously a joke account, so it's different case.

Tinkeringbell

I need smart-socks... e-socks?

iSocks!

Somewhat

uSocks?

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

7:40 AM

@Tinkeringbell don't start with this... I already shared my socks drawer after @rene asked for it..... :P

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Okay, then you win :P I don't need a drawer for my socks, they fit in an old shoe box.

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Tinkeringbell sock that play music to your legs? Cool!

Tinkeringbell

(If I don't count the two pairs of fleece lined home socks)

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

My wife always laugh at me for having tons of socks.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Socks that keep track of movement and heartrate sounds more feasible :P

Somewhat

7:41 AM

Well, I already have my e-drawer...

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

I just had a "sock spree" for a while, buying like 5 new pairs every week because it was on sale. o_O

Somewhat

Huh, your socks have holes?

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

That was couple of years ago though, so by now most socks are pretty old.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard I always buy mine 10 at a time... and half of them end up in my mom's possession, I'm sure!

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Tinkeringbell lol

@Somewhat no! I keep them hole-free, and if the worst happens and hole appears... time to say good bye to the sock. :D

Tinkeringbell

7:43 AM

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard You can repair the hole too :)

Somewhat

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard then how do you wear those... hole-less socks? ._.

(okay, lame joke ._.)

Tinkeringbell

I like buying 10 pairs of just black socks. If one get's a hole, and another too, I combine the orphaned ones into a new pair :)

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

But since I never go with socks only (always with shoes as well), no holes happen. Common cause of death for my socks is just getting old and un-flexible, or whatever it's called when I can't stretch them to fit nicely. :)

@Somewhat oh.... that hole... lol....

Tinkeringbell

Mine tend to get a little thread bare even when I always wear shoes.

And then they just have a hole all of a sudden

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

Well, sock must have a hole to put the leg into, otherwise, well, it's not a sock.... :P

@Tinkeringbell that requires all 10 to be the same type and look exactly though....

Somewhat

7:46 AM

might search for foot wraps as an alternative for hole-less... socks :p

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard 'just black socks' 'buying 10 pairs'... :P

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

My wife got 10 which looks almost the same, but with very subtle color difference. I always work very hard to match them when folding laundry..... o_O :D

Derpy

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog and I was thinking your avatar was lame and effort-less.... and now here it is - another user, another stock image :P Can't you too at least switch to some fan art?

Tinkeringbell

Now I'm curious. How many different 'just black socks' can there be?

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Meh. if it's subtle, no-one will notice when wearing ;)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Derpy That is fan art, I can't use official Sega property due to copyright reasons

Somewhat

7:47 AM

50 shades of black socks...

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Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Tinkeringbell umm... well... she notice instantly.... after being scolded once I try not to make that mistake again... :P

@Somewhat I do wonder, do they wear socks in those movies?