Tavern on the Meta

Travis J

9:00 AM

:)

Oh, I know why there are voting rings, I just didn't think there was one per day

Journeyman Geek

SO is vast and dark and full of terrors.

Magisch

mostly terrible questions and people who misunderstand office comeraderie

iirc

Travis J

What if we closed meta on the weekends

(hides)

Somewhat

But no onion rings?

Travis J

Apparently there are rings daily

So that wouldn't stop

Lol, can you imagine, a meta voting ring? The humanity!

Journeyman Geek

9:08 AM

All I want is the one ring

Somewhat

the oneon ring...

Travis J

onion ring out of whole onion didn't yield anything worthwhile :(

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Somewhat

9:32 AM

Latest SEEN: Early congratulation to hazzey and Wasabi for joining the mod team on Engineering.SE ;p

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rene

@Somewhat we still want to know who gets the gold medal

Somewhat

plot twist: no one voted.

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Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@rene Bart, of course.

Somewhat

9:41 AM

Bart... it's always Bart!

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

Bart. It's always Bart.

See? No need for all those dots!

Or exclamation marks!

:P

Somewhat

sometimes we need to dramatize ;p

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

!

@TravisJ image rot! Why not host on imgur?

rene

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard but ... he didn't run for mod ...

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@rene So? Still should win gold medal.

:P

Bart can win mod elections even without running in them.

rene

9:53 AM

It goes to far to give Bart Skeetian properties ...

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

More like Chuck Norris.

heh, he's still alive! 78 y/o and counting!

lol, digging there is funny...

> Jon Skeet does not run his programs. He just whispers "you better run". And it runs.

Since @Bart is the Tavern's local legendary hero, guess we can apply at least some of that on him!

Who knows it might even cause him to get more active here! :D

rene

And then what? A starboard filled with witty statements, just from him?

Somewhat

That'd be a lot better than current star board?

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@rene nah, we already have it. Too boring. ;)

Somewhat

We also had one with Jan...

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

10:01 AM

half the star board now is kind of discussion between Ano and... rivals. :D

Somewhat

Aug 15 '14 at 4:45, by bjb568

rene

epic

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

classic

John Dvorak

To my defense, he was being annoying

Somewhat

Well, can't disagree with that :p

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

10:30 AM

@JohnDvorak it worked, you voted to close

Is @bjb568 still annoying though? ;)

John Dvorak

Don't summon it!

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

Too late

Somewhat

He's... growing...

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

The deed was done

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Do we now have to wait until after sunset for them to turn up?

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

10:37 AM

@Tinkeringbell might take 6-8 sunsets

but he'll eventually show up... he always does.... :D

Tinkeringbell

Really? I don't think I ever saw them. :P

Magisch

Ask not for whom the bell tolls

it tolls for thee

(I have made that pun joke on tink's name at least 4 times now)

rene

You tink that never gets old?

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Ohh... it's the bell. It keeps bad spirits away :D I'll go, so bjb can be summoned! :P

Magisch

I bell ieve it'll never get old

Tinkeringbell

10:43 AM

@Magisch Well, you're wrong. I'm already 27, I'm getting old :P

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell I'm 23 and I feel old

adulting is no fun at all :(

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch old != adult

Magisch

I want to go back to the days where I had school from 8.30 till 1pm and then the rest of the day off

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Meh. I'm glad I don't have school. I sometimes miss the vacations, but not often. School was boring! At least there's similar minded people at work. That does a lot too :)

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, but it's so long

rene

10:46 AM

@Magisch If you wait long enough that will be your day rhythm again ...

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Take regular breaks ;)

My days are 8 hours, but there's a coffee break in the morning and afternoon, and lunch

+ the time I get sucked into SE chatrooms ;)

Somewhat

@Tinkeringbell you're slightly younger than me! I'm old :(

(29 this year)

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Mithrandir

@Somewhat I'm just here to make all of you feel old.

Somewhat

:(

Tinkeringbell

10:53 AM

@Somewhat Well... 23 feels old, 27 is getting old, and 29 is old. That seems about right :P

Mithrandir

@Somewhat That's almost twice my age :P

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell you're practically almost 30 :D

Somewhat

@Mithrandir cries in the corner of the room

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Don't mention it! :P

I think I saw my first grey hair this morning

And the first wrinkle

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell I have been told before to never comment on a woman's age under any circumstances

Federico

10:56 AM

@Magisch youtube.com/watch?v=gMtW9zurUkw no embed

Magisch

That was right after I told a woman in order processing "wow, you're almost 50 then?"

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Huh? I thought that was 'a ladies age' :P I'm not a lady :P

Federico

(might not be safe for work)

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Ehhh... yeah, that might not be the best remark XD but a true lady never reveals her age... so if she broke the rules, you're free to do so as well :P

Mithrandir

> if she broke the rules, you're free to do so as well

This is why it's a bad idea to take blind advice, even from a mod.

Magisch

10:58 AM

@Tinkeringbell Maybe I know her birthday because it's recorded in our database

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir I mean... there is a smiley sticking it's tongue out there.... does it need a bigger emoji?

@Magisch Okay. Then she was right to get mad.

Henders

waiting for a large emoji to be posted...

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell indeed

to be fair she was talking about her birthday preparations so I could have guessed it anyways. Still...

Tinkeringbell

Henders

THANKS!

Tinkeringbell

11:01 AM

@Magisch Usually, you ask about how the preparations are going ;) Or you ask if it's a special birthday :P

@Henders To be honest, that one turned out pretty small, don't you think? :P

Henders

It is acceptable. It is certainly much larger than :p

rene

flag-or-delv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/a/315091/158100

Somewhat

I guess someone just joined MSE from Android app...

rene

11:25 AM

@Somewhat yeah. must be

Magisch

11:36 AM

If anyone is an afficionado of cute snakes: i.imgur.com/RokEAUF.mp4

SmokeDetector

11:46 AM

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Journeyman Geek

12:05 PM

@rene needs one more now

rene

maybe ask @Bart or @ShadowtheWelcomingWizard to cast their final vote here...

Journeyman Geek

Flagnuked

rene

Okay

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

12:37 PM

jdfjdhjhh-nuked.

looks like cross site, let's see...

yeah cross site troll. Calling the heavy guns.

Journeyman Geek

did he post anything on security?

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@JNat cross site troll for your care. Note, not the usual troll or spammer. First exhibit: MSE obvious useless post. Second exhibit: 100% copy and paste of an accepted answer on other site.

This user is harmful to SE.

At least network wide suspension to stop them, or better nuke, IMO.

@JourneymanGeek probably deleted already, but not relevant... the trolling on Drupal is enough proof of disruptive person who seek to hurt SE.

Journeyman Geek

ya

but when I saw him earlier he only had a security account ;p

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

So he... grew. ;)

Or... expanded...

Drag and Drop

A perfect exemple of why you shouldnt do dupral kids.

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

12:45 PM

lol

rene

1:27 PM

I must have been rude again. Now I can only pray they just revenge voted and not flagged the comment ...

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@rene yeah, the following comment is totally rude:

Works for me in IE9 — rene Jan 14 '13 at 19:43

:P

rene

lol

John Dvorak

#BanAllTheExperts

Tinkeringbell

@rene I can't imagine you being rude :) You're probably fine ;)

Magisch

rene always uses flowery language

Tinkeringbell

1:32 PM

Well, there are very flowery ways of being rude. :)

I've seen some quite eloquent insults

rene

I'm close to being q-banned: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/885476/… so that will be fun when I post on MSO to complain about that ...

Tinkeringbell

@rene I thought the metrics for those kinds of bans were supersecret?!?

rene

Yes, they are

Tinkeringbell

So how come you know them?

Magisch

rene is special

his roots reach deep into the inner workings of SE

rene

1:35 PM

I carefully watched comments from SE staff and add new info to that query when I come across stuff.

Tinkeringbell

I like it :) I'm going to bookmark that query once I'm home :)

The work laptop has this weird thing, where I can't sync my google account on chrome

So I have to actually remember passwords if I want to log into something here.

and bookmarks aren't shared either.

Drag and Drop

Did you also get your "friendly reminder" from Stack Overflow Moderation Team. I like those.

rene

I never check my mail ...

Magisch

@DragandDrop ?

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell I have a seperate account on my work laptop

Tinkeringbell

1:43 PM

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, well.. .since stuff doesn't sync, I just use the same :)

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell habit from a old job since they handed me a dodgy laptop that hadn't been wiped and there was a ton of odd crap on it from a previous user.

Drag and Drop

@Magisch "This is just a friendly reminder that we require all participants to act in a professional and civil tone when using these sites." I know the term "friendly reminder" sound like they had cookies. Where you asking about the why ?

Journeyman Geek

@DragandDrop we do, but only for nice people.

Magisch

@DragandDrop Where did you get that reminder?

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Ah. I usually wipe my own stuff before turning a laptop back in ;)

Magisch

1:45 PM

If it's email, I can't look at it yet

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell ditto

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Sounds like a moderator message...

Drag and Drop

Moderator automatic message on flag rude comment I guess

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek I use the same account but I also control the IT here so I know what does and doesn't get wiped at the end

Mithrandir

Oh, that's not automatic.

Journeyman Geek

1:45 PM

There's no automatic mod messages

Magisch

EG we just reimage the whole thing.

Tinkeringbell

Delete everything from your hard disk, fill it up with cute kitten pictures, remember to log out of everything :P

Journeyman Geek

Current employer does that

Magisch

pretty sure I never recieved such a reminder message

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch If you want one, I can send you one :P Not having those is a good thing ;)

Magisch

1:47 PM

I recieved a mod message once (about not-so-above-board chat flags I'd been raising) but that was like 2.5 years ago

When I was new at some point I got it in my head to go through a transcript and flag stuff (not a great plan)

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Magisch

But I never got one about tone in comments

Drag and Drop

It looked pretty generic to me. But Im not here to complain about that.

Magisch

iirc mods have templates for those

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Oh yeah, there's templates. Doesn't mean you don't have to take them seriously...

Magisch

1:50 PM

Mod messages are pretty far along the "You gon get suspended" chain iirc

Mithrandir

@Magisch yep

Although, as with everything, depends on the exact case.

Drag and Drop

But if it's not automatic, It lake of personal touch and informations. It sound like a automatic message. I rated it 1/10. Mod message about a rude comment must include a reference to the comment [MCVE]

Mithrandir

It's a template. It's customizable, but really... SO mods send enough of those out on a daily basis that that really doesn't scale.

JNat

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard all gone

Tinkeringbell

@DragandDrop That goes on a small site... I try to do that when I have the time... But like Mith said, I can imagine SO being large enough that it's not really doable

Somewhat

1:59 PM

When I checked my email, I only found an email that I sent to my future self...

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Somewhat creepy! :D

@JNat thanks!

Drag and Drop

How many time in the past/future? More than one years?

Somewhat

3.14 years, with the message, "please do some exercises" :S

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

PI years?!

John Dvorak

2:14 PM

Unless he means three years and founteen months

anonymous2

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Sorry

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@rene wasn't it just a pun attempt?

@anonymous2 no need to! You are who you are... :D

Plus, with Ano officially denounced, you're fine. :)

Somewhat

until someone changes their username to 'sho' ...

rene

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard any attempt is punny

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Somewhat I'm pretty sure that by now pinging Sho or Shog won't ping Shog9. It works only for 2 days after user's last visit to a room.

The full form works for 7 days, after which only direct reply to existing message will cause a ping/notification.

hehe lol

in Shadow's Den, Jan 11 '16 at 7:45, by Uniqueke kittean ate Unidoggy

Next I want to be "Sho"

Whatever happened to @UniKitty is the biggest mystery for me, involving SE, at the moment. He just disappeared into thin air one day, never to come back, after a bot he wrote (not his own account) got network wide suspension for 30+ years. Something happened, just no clue what. It made me wonder if it was a "legit" user to begin with, or if we've been somehow fooled all along.

Somewhat

2:28 PM

Unihedron?

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

But he made lots of fun in Den, this can't be taken away. :)

@Somewhat no no... other @Uni.

Hedron is fine.

@UniKitty appeared one day (think that first here in Tavern) after his arqade.SE account was suspended, claiming from day 1 that the suspension wasn't justified and that he was framed by other user he called UniDoggy.

Then he became very active in Den, and laughed about this whole thing, so I assumed all was good.

Unihedron is just "idle" like most old-time users who aren't active a lot... let's see...

Last talked here in June, not bad. :)

Magisch

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard That means as long as you've ever talked in a room people can ping you in it

Shadow the Welcoming Wizard

@Magisch indeed

And mods can super ping any user, even if they were never in the room.

user194636

3:06 PM

any user on the same chat server yeah

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3:51 PM

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4:16 PM

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Henders

@Magisch I think there's also a time limit on it. For example, after a few weeks, people become unpingable again.

Optimus Prime

How refusing to give police your facebook password can lead to prison [external post]

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4:38 PM

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Magisch

4:55 PM

@OptimusPrime interesting couldn't they just subpoena facebook for the conversation history?

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5:07 PM

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Optimus Prime

5:18 PM

@Magisch I don't think facebook will give them chat history

Magisch

if they can legally compel him to give the password they can subpoena facebook

Optimus Prime

Facebook have it's own policy. Previously fbi forced apple to unlock an iphone of a terrorist for months and they declined it. Finally fbi approached an Israel based security company in order to get the phone unlocked

If facebook provide chat history, it'll be a violation of their privacy policy

ThiefMaster

requests from authorities most likely aren't subject to a company's privacy policy, except that the company may decide to fight the request as much as possible

but if the highest available court tells them to hand over data (which they can actually access) it's not like they can simply refuse...

Magisch

At least as far as the GDPR is concerned, requests of law enforcement based on a lawful court order are explicitly exempt iirc

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5:42 PM

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6:11 PM

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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:30 PM

@OptimusPrime Such a thing would be illegal in the U.S., Miranda v. Arizona, 1803

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard D.Hutchinson was an active user with lots of highly-voted posts on multiple sites, yet got a 28-year network-wide suspension

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rene

7:11 PM

9

Q: Updates to error states

We have updated error states for Ask a Question to use a new inline style that works better for smaller screens. New error state Old error state

I like it!

Tinkeringbell

Aren't we supposed to dislike design changes?

I agree, it looks good :D

user194636

This is a weird and unexpected turn of events

Tinkeringbell

I try hard to be unpredictable

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Who VTC'd as unclear?

rene

raises hand

user194636

7:19 PM

there's always one

rene

Yes, I like to be the first when it comes to creating chaos

Catija

7:34 PM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog .... and, more importantly, why?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija I guess it's because there's not a question at the end? I just thought of it like your "thanks" post earlier.

user194636

It's kinda traditional on announcement-type meta posts isn't it?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija Also, please check your email

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I'm not going to yell at you about this, but meta questions do not need to be questions...

We have an entire collection of meta questions that are announcements...

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Really?

That's your line?

Magisch

sigh

user194636

7:41 PM

@Catija Y'know bold and bold italic do look a little like yelling :)

user194636

Also it was not Sonic that voted to close, it was rene.

Catija

@PaulWhite No, it was Sonic.

user194636

@Catija The transcript above makes no sense then.

Magisch

Why are we going from 0 to 100 again :(

user194636

@Magisch In what sense?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

7:43 PM

@Catija There's no point discussing this now because it looks like they retracted their vote.

Jon Ericson

@PaulWhite Bold and italic AND CAPS is about as far as you can push the yelling. ;-)

user194636

@JonEricson Without some sort of userscript, yeah, I guess.

Magisch

I'm not sure if someone's about to get suspended or if everything's ok. This happens more and more lately. It's enough that meta is so caustic lately, pls not also the tavern :(

user194636

Maybe ASCII art would do it idk.

Magisch

Maybe it's my state of mind

user194636

7:47 PM

I missed the (removed) message, but aside from that it seems mostly like a normal discussion.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija Out of curiosity, is there an official staff email address you'd prefer to receive emails from, or should I use the same address I used earlier?

Jon Ericson

@Magisch Meta can do that to a person. I remember going Christmas shopping and getting a comment on meta from Jeff. It soured me on what I was doing and I wanted to type up a response on my phone from the store. I think I did too. :-(

user194636

I hope you gave him what for :)

Magisch

I should be enjoying the last 2 hours before another day of revising GDPR and the local laws for thursday

Jon Ericson

I probably used italic, if you know what I mean.

user194636

7:49 PM

Goodness me.

Jon Ericson

(Only, I doubt I would make the effort to use fancy formatting if I did type the comment on a phone.)

user194636

Mind you, so long as it wasn't inline code formatting. That grates on me no end in comments.

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog If it's SE-related, it's catija@ . Otherwise you can use the other one.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija SO or SE?

Some have their emails on the SO domain, others on the SE domain

user194636

Billion-dollar idea: SO/SE should sell @stackoverflow.com and @stackexchange.com email addresses.

Catija

7:51 PM

They all work.

user194636

I should FR that on commission.

rene

@PaulWhite I always like to give feedback when people ask who did that. I was watching the close review queue to cast a leave open vote. But that effort has gone up in smoke ...

user194636

Must be nice to have enough meta rep to see the review queues 🙂

Undo

"Must be nice to have enough meta rep" bahahaha

having meta rep is never nice

user194636

Well so long as it never hits 10k

user194636

7:58 PM

Goodness only knows what lurks in the deleted posts

rene

You can't blame me for that CVQ backlog. I'm in the top CVQ reviewers on both SO and MSE.

Jon Ericson

@PaulWhite I guess I didn't propose it as an answer, but I did consider that idea for a 30k privilege.

@PaulWhite Mostly spam.

Oh hey, @Undo. I just noticed you are stepping down as a Software Recs mod. (I noticed when I wrote the announcement and looked at the notes. ;-)

user194636

@JonEricson Technically infeasible?

user194636

Privacy concerns maybe.

Catija

@JonEricson that link intentionally go to the edit page?

Jon Ericson

8:07 PM

@Catija Nope. But I was editing it at the time. ;-)

user194636

> the new moderators is

rene

Did Undo decide to step down or is this the new way to let mods know they are no longer needed ;)

Jon Ericson

@PaulWhite I don't remember. For lower-level users, it was a concern with phishing. But that's not likely to be a problem with a 30k user.

user194636

Bad luck @JourneymanGeek - it was close!

Jon Ericson

@PaulWhite Just missed the window. I swear I'll have this automated by the end of the year. (It was a goal on my performance evaluation.)

user194636

8:10 PM

Good luck with that 😃

Jon Ericson

If I can automate away one pluralization bug, it'll be a start. ;-)

user194636

Jeff might still have a giant capital S lying around somewhere

rene

But they remain unused as the bludgeon to death is no longer allowed

user194636

@rene Perhaps the welcoming strategy is a zero-sum game with the other side of the ledger being attributed to moderators 😮

rene

Sounds plausible ...

Jon Ericson

8:22 PM

Hmmm... Conservation of Welcoming doesn't seem like a workable theory since I've seen people disinvited from events without anyone replacing them. ;-)

user194636

There might be a quantum aspect though, so the system could borrow a bit of Welcoming, so long as it were given back somewhere else soon enough after.

user194636

I wonder if this would be on-topic for Physics or Quantum Computing

user194636

Prolly not eh

rene

8:36 PM

Did you consider skeptics.se?

Fabby

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Thanks!

user194636

@rene Ooo good call

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

I'm a little curious why a large proportion of SE users I deal with here and on the IPS site are from the Netherlands in particular

rene

We're probably just bored and none of the Late Night shows are worth watching so we rather gang up here before going to sleep.

canon

that's a lot of blue activity

Undo

8:46 PM

@JonEricson Yep :) School starting and all of that means I don't have much time anymore

Not that SR takes a lot of time, it's more one more thing I have to check

Or... not check, recently

Fabby

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I'm not... But the answer is: because the weather (and especially the wind) is terrible there so a lot of people sit inside making themselves cosy...

Undo

@rene Being no longer needed is the ultimate goal of a moderator.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Undo IIRC you were once bragging about having "quite a bit of spare time".

Fabby

Being no longer neede should be the ultimate goal of every manager...

Undo

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Once. That time is not now.

Got plenty of stuff to do now

Fabby

8:56 PM

Undo, is is PC to ask you why you were banned for a year?

(SQL error seeing it was shog?)

Undo

tempted the wrong person to push the limits of the little "number of hours" box on chat profiles

turns out 9999 hours is about a year

Not that it really matters, diamonds override chat suspensions

canon

feature request: hide starred messages if they @mention an ignore user

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Why would you want to do that?

John Dvorak

-1 there's room for mistakes

canon

I swear typed ignored... I don't know whether to blame my brain or my keyboard.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

9:06 PM

@canon You "ignored" the word

Fabby

@Undo :D :D :D

(sorry for the delayed response, was having a smoke)

@canon When in doubt, always blame the hardware!

You bumped your head against the door? ==> The door was drunk, not you!

You let a hammer fall on your foot? ==> The hammer was too heavy, you weren't clumsy!

Etc...

Derivative of Fabby's law: if there is no hardware, blame the situation.

Derivative of the derivative: Never blame people, but look for ways to mitigate the impact of people

Jon Ericson

@Undo No problem. I took away your diamond. (I created one in exchange, which suggests a conservation of moderatorships. ;-)

user194636

9:48 PM

Something something entropy

Fabby

user194636

Seems legit

πάντα ῥεῖ

10:10 PM

@SmokeDetector naa

SmokeDetector

@πάνταῥεῖ Recorded answer as an NAA in metasmoke.

Undo

@JonEricson Sure you did? I'm still seeing it on SR

There we go

Jon Ericson

@Undo Yeah. 'Cause I demodded you on meta-SR. 8-/ (Fixed on main now.)

Undo

So few buttons now

Travis J

10:29 PM

@Undo They were all grouped

Just left with the easy stuff :P

Fabby

@TravisJ turnofftheinternet.com

Journeyman Geek

@PaulWhite ah. Oh well.

Travis J

@Fabby lol, I clicked it and then chrome said "popup blocked"

Fabby

@TravisJ and the you clicked "allow" and then it said: "You've now safely shut down the Internet"

(that's all it does)

Travis J

Thanks :D I probably wouldn't have clicked allow. I like the internet.

It would be kinda funny if it had attempted to change my router settings or something though.

Fabby

10:40 PM

@TravisJ I might be ~~an obnoxious old fart~~ posting a joke every now and then, but that's one step too far even for me!

;-) :-) ;-)

Travis J

Not sure if serious :P

Fabby

That's why I posted the smileys below that...

I have a sense of humour: I can laugh with myself...

not insulting anyone but myself, is not against the CoC, is it???

:worried now:

Travis J

That's why I posted the colon followed with a capitol letter p.

Fabby

ah...

How I feel right now

Travis J

Aren't you inherently laughing with yourself every time you laugh? If not, how is it that you are laughing, and yet yourself is not laughing with you?

Fabby

10:56 PM

Not really...

Example: Laurel and Hardy: you laugh with them, not with yourself...

@TravisJ I do agree with you that being able to laugh with oneself is a prerequisite for a good sense of humour, but not necessarily for a sense of humour...

P.S. English is only my Third or fourth language depending on how you count, so I had to read that question twice before being able to reply.

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