!!/report https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/315038/blender-question-on-wieght-paint-mode "user keeps reposting same question on same site again and again"
(Can we please not move manual report commands to Chimney?)
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog quite frankly quite a lot of folk have lost their temper at you here and elsewhere. This place tends to be somewhere everyone, not just you can hang out with staff on SE and talk informally about the network
The fact that people are taking a break deeply concerns me and I've repeatedly have pointed out that, well many of these things are not critical to be handled right now
@JourneymanGeek Couple of clarifications: 1. I'm not the first to complain about how long it takes for flags to get handled on MSE; @Shadow is the first. 2. The question ban is significantly harder to trigger on MSE due to the nature of the downvotes; I've pretty much never seen it triggered. A moderator is therefore needed to suspend the user. It's why we have a special suspension reason "asking programming questions on meta".
It's not really helpful to bypass the normal channels of communication with staff to fast-track your requests. If nobody's handling flags on meta for a while, there's a reason for that.
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog so. New geek's rule of pinging. No pinging unless it is an ongoing conversation, explicitly requested or needed because it is less confusing.
To formalize that a bit more: No more pinging staff members for fast-tracking requests, and no more pinging staff members in general unless explicitly requested or part of a currently ongoing conversation.
@Magisch It can take nearly a month for the flag to eventually get handled, which can make the situation pointed out in the flag irrelevant. Also, it can be possible that a bunch of odd wrong flags made at different times can be handled at once resulting in a ban, even though the flags in question were many weeks apart.
It's high time we stop trying to get staff to confirm to our ideas of what they should prioritize. It's their platform and flags are there for a reason. We don't have a monopoly on their time. It's gone on far enough that staff members are now considering not even coming to this room anymore. And that is a sad thing that doesn't need to happen.
@Magisch IIRC the only roadblock was that community mods would have access to the staff rooms, but they've already gotten around that by only allowing users with the staff bit access
Huh, it looks like I qualify for 13 of the 17 "candidate score" badges that can be earned on MSE (the other 3 have to do with per-site meta participation or voting in a prior election)
And I've already secured the Yearling badge, but as my account's less than a year old I don't yet qualify
@Magisch Just as an example: if I had a 36/37 candidate score (full 20 rep points, plus the three badges above), you wouldn't vote for me because of my history here?
Then there comes another question: do we vote based on great site participation, or great Meta participation? A lot of users say they value site participation and don't value Meta participation that much. So they wouldn't vote for a person like me with tons of rep on Meta but relatively little on other sites.
@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard It was promised in the 2014 post announcing the meta split: "eventually, we'll appoint moderators"
Then a 2015 question where staff answer that it'll happen eventually
@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Also, more accurately, Trilogy mods (SO, SU, and SF), not just SO; e.g. random was an SU mod only, but was an active MSO mod in the day.
Maybe that's why they haven't appointed anyone yet - technically there's only a little bit of stuff that needs doing on meta that normal users can't deal with.
I think the only thing I found kinda sad over at IPS when we were gathering volunteers last time, was that someone nominated someone, that person declined... and the nomination got a boatload of downvotes nonetheless.
Once a friend of mine was house sitting for us, and he came over to check on the cat at night. He came in, and in the middle of the floor he could see the eye shine from my cat. So he reached into his pocket for his phone to turn on the light, and when he turned the light on the cat was gone. He said it freaked him out a little.
I found you lose a lot of the fun when opening any interesting post that there's either 1) a highly voted post disparaging the company, 2) highly voted comments disparaging the company, 3) pure unfettered cynicism as response to honest questions 4) all of the above
@JourneymanGeek Yeah but even though it's not directly disparaging people saying "Management doesn't care anyways about anything but revenue generating new users more like $tackoverflow amirite" grates a bit after the 10.000th remark to that effect
I think that each exchange is slightly different, and has different needs. As for Stack Overflow's specific current state, I think that it needs to have its topicality revisited.
It can grow while increasing quality, it just needs some stronger definitions.
I can easily defend this assertion with one simple example: GitHub. GitHub is like, 90% code. It is really popular right now. All of the code on the site is available to read. Users post code to it at a ridiculous rate. There is a massive supply of users writing code. There is a massive demand for a place to write code. We just need to better facilitate the connection between the two.
I doubt they would close questions which require "too much reading" and "too much coding" to answer.
That would be a strong competitor for SO though, in all honesty.
Both sites have similar mission statements.
> GitHub brings together the world's largest community of developers to discover, share, and build better software. > Stack Overflow is the largest, most trusted online community for developers to learn, share their programming knowledge, and build their careers.
Well, it was cool because you got away with it. Once you tell your friends, they might ridicule you for using IE, or perhaps, SE chat will ridicule you for using IE :P
