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Yeah, morning!
 
 
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6:58 AM
Asaf Karagila and Aloizio Macedo joined the Math's mods team. Congratulation! On the other, Mariano stepped down. Thanks!
 
 
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8:26 AM
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Calm before Sunny
 
 
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9:52 AM
@SomewhatMemorableName Sunny before storm here ;)
 
Sunny before and after sunny here...
 
10:08 AM
sd k
 
10:40 AM
._.
I got back from work at 10 am. Slept till 6pm with a break for lunch when I nearly fell asleep at the dinner table
 
10:51 AM
That... doesn't look good ._.
 
 
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12:39 PM
@JourneymanGeek why not eat lunch at 6pm? It's not like you get hungry while sleeping... ;)
Crazy work hours, I got them for a while when working as a guard... lots of night shifts.
Hope you get more money for working at nights?
 
Is calling a question dead still OK? context
 
12:55 PM
@ShadowWizard it is not how it's done
@ShadowWizard monthly pay but it's not too bad
TBH I just need the steady work first
 
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@rene Why wouldn't it be?
 
1:14 PM
Not really welcoming to see your question called "dead". :/
 
It's just pining for the fjords
 
@rene I (down a bit) aluded to "being prevented from asking questions in the future" because questions weren't well-received. I didn't want to get too technically broad there because for that early-stage audience, it would be a little overwhelming.
 
1:37 PM
Fair enough
 
1:51 PM
persistent spammer
 
 
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4:43 PM
20K meta.stackexchange.com/questions/314189/… /cc @ShadowWizard @Bart @TravisJ (needs 1 more)
 
5:15 PM
@Shog9 Out of curiosity, what 5-character edit did you make here? I don't see anything.
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I didn't. The system stripped 5 spaces from the end of the post that'd been there for years.
 
@Shog9 So, just to be clear here, all you did in that edit is remove those five spaces?
 
Didn't do anything at all - just opened the editor & hit submit.
 
@Shog9 Out of curiosity, why?
 
see what would happen
 
5:20 PM
Because someone was trying to suggest a tag- or title-only edit but was getting a "6 character" error?
@Shog9 Oops, didn't see that.
 
not this time
...I'm gonna go back to testing now ;)
 
3 downvotes, 5 upvotes... very controversial! Do I make a bad assumption here? Imply something incorrect? Please leave me a message downvoters! — Aaron Hall ♦ 5 mins ago
 
@Shog9 No problem, was just wondering...
 
Either I should prepend my comment with "I didn't downvote but, ...", or I shouldn't comment at all.
(not that I can answer your question though)
 
5:42 PM
@AaronHall maybe the down voters don't understand why this would be practical to know. They assume GIT handles the editor and that is all there is to it.
also asking for the voters motivation is noise and should be flagged blah blah, welcoming and such ...
I prefer the original wording... just saying. — Tiny Giant 33 mins ago
am I too careful?
 
Ok, it was nice knowing you ...
 
disconnected from SE server by external force
 
I don't flag "why the downvote" comments, and I have even posted some myself.
 
I don't flag "Is something can be improved?" comments if they don't include "downvote*" word.
 
5:55 PM
I feel like that's a superficial distinction
(but yes, I do word mine to your liking if I post them)
 
6:49 PM
> "distracting voters from the your qualifications"
That'll be fixed in the next build, @AnneDaunted
 
7:05 PM
@Shog9 What's that?
 
@rene As comments are ephemeral... no big deal...
 
7:22 PM
@AaronHall They really aren't though.
Comments are contributions, or at least, that is how a majority of the community seems to feel.
 
@TravisJ well, I understand how some people feel about that, I've felt that way before too, but I've found that when I'm looking for answers to questions I really appreciate it when I don't have to wade through a bunch of comments that are irrelevant to getting my answer...
 
I agree. However, even though that is probably the way it should be, in practice it would seem a vast amount of users treat comments as contributions.
 
didn't knew hangouts provide a way to format messages
 
7:48 PM
@SmokeDetector probably trolling but left a comment for now
not sure if vlq or naa flags will fly
 
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A: Review audits should not be counted to the count of daily reviews

Sonic the Inclusive HedgehogI'm almost on the verge of advocating to keep the status quo as is, but I do see your point. A few facts for context: The Reviewer and Steward badges (for reviewing 250 and 1,000 tasks in a single queue, respectively) count towards moderator candidate scores in elections, meaning that the SE t...

What are your thoughts on this proposal?
 
meh
 
meh
 
 
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9:24 PM
> The Stack Overflow Comment Evaluator 5000
does it ever end?
 
9:38 PM
@Shog9 @Catija What's your opinion on meta.stackexchange.com/a/314200/377214?
 
9:59 PM
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog denied!
 
My opinion:
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A: Review audits should not be counted to the count of daily reviews

Shog9An audit still chews up time and attention, shaving irreplaceable seconds from your life, leaving you that much closer to death. The least we can do is increment a number in exchange for that precious gift.

 
@Shog9 I think that the question is asking for them to not count against a user's max reviews per day... allowing someone to review 20 actual posts rather than 20 - audits posts / day. I agree that incrementing the user's total review count is good... not sure if penalizing the review queue because it gave a user an audit instead of an actual review is good... that said, I'm not sure how many users actually review 20 posts per day.
I'm also not sure if there's a way to do both at the same time... counting them as reviews for the user's review history total count but not counting them as a review for the per day limit.
 
@Catija some people get really competitive about it...
probably good to limit it.
 
10:14 PM
If the user could force review audits instead of actual reviews, I'd be concerned but if the average audits per 20 is 2-3 per day, it'd be a matter of luck (?) with the added potential negative side effect of getting review banned if you fail too many audits... so it seems like there's a balance to it.
 
@Catija you can kinda force audits
 
Well, if there's a system preferred frequency, we could limit the number of "free" audit reviews per day to whatever that would be... so 1/10 would give them only two free per day max, so forcing them wouldn't gain much. For most users, it probably wouldn't matter... though it seems like adding a lot of complexity... but it has the potential of increasing the total reviews completed per day... though, if that were actually a goal, we could more easily increase the max/day/user instead...
But I don't think there's any plans for that, either, for various reasons.
 
10:53 PM
@Shog9 @Catija If you look at my review history on Super User (or SO, I don't remember) in 2014, you'll find that there's a period of time where the only tasks I've reviewed are audits.
So yes, it can be gamed.
Also, thanks for changing the dupe target around.
 
11:48 PM
@Catija it's a 1 in 20 chance (randomized) by default. So over time, assuming you're not actively manipulating things, you'll get 1 audit for every 20 reviews.
So... if we wanted folks to have 20 non-audit reviews per queue, we could just put the cap at 21 reviews per day. No need to get clever.
 

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