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Journeyman Geek

12:25 AM

Heh. My brother likes em chewy so just soaks em in water

Shog9

1:10 AM

@Catija the lovely thing about cooking is always eating your mistakes

Catija

1:21 AM

Depends on how much you mess up. :D

Martin James

5:31 AM

@Shog9 That's what our dog is for:)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

7:58 AM

@Shadow Could you please update the bullet list in the addendum in this answer with other features that are known to not receive much dev work?

rene

10:14 AM

→ 9 messages moved to Chimney

Shadow Wizard

10:39 AM

@MartinJames poor dog... 🐕 :D

πάντα ῥεῖ

If you're running a farm, the pigs will be delighted :)

Martin James

@ShadowWizard I offered him a carbonized burger, (phone call while BBQ), a couple weeks ago - he did not refuse:)

Shadow Wizard

lol

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Dogs aren't that picky most of the time. I'd be curious if Ash would refuse.

@Journey?

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog to be honest I don't feel comfortable with such a list, as it appears to be formal but it's not. I agree about apps 100%, which are officially frozen, and Area51 too, but as for chat we can't know for sure. The team might give it some boost all of a sudden.

And can't think of something additional to add there.

@πάνταῥεῖ well, no dogs for me but from what I've seen and heard, it's not good to let them eat anything, e.g. they can get sick at some point.

Specialized dog food isn't cheap, but guess it's the best fit for them... :)

πάντα ῥεῖ

10:54 AM

It's particularly not good to feed them with choclit (unless that special stuff made for dogs)

A cat would just moan and turn its back to you :)

And probably just not come back for the rest of the day ...

Journeyman Geek

@πάνταῥεῖ Ash is a snob :p

Actually has an odd diet. Lots of mashed peas and corn

Dosen't eat much kibble... Won't touch the tinned stuff

Shadow Wizard

Weird dog! ;)

Reminds me of my daughter, who doesn't like chocolate. o_O

(the older daughter, the baby daughter like it very much)

πάντα ῥεῖ

She'll be happy about that in a few years probably ;)

Shadow Wizard

nah, she eats sugar in other forms.

Just not... brown.

This is burden in birthdays, as we must make two cakes every time: the traditional chocolate cake, plus non-chocolate cake for her, e.g. apple or orange cake.

Journeyman Geek

11:09 AM

Heh

He had a bad experience with his first owner and food

At one point he wouldn't eat kibble if it wasn't aired out a few hours

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek oh... this might explain things, yeah

Journeyman Geek

+ we are veggie so cooking meat was out of the question

And.. so we tried mashed peas...

IDK why

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeated URL at end of long post: Input power & Torque to a DC Motor by user191991 on electronics.SE

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@SmokeDetector fp-

πάντα ῥεῖ

11:34 AM

One thing I've seen dogs and cats really like equally well is Leberwurst (Liverwurst?). But I'm not so sure it's healthy for them, because of the high fat content.
Good to foist them any kind of medication though.

Journeyman Geek

11:50 AM

Hah. Ash absolutely will not take treats from strangers

And he's too smart to trick pill

We basically need to do it the hard way if he doesn't like it

πάντα ῥεῖ

Aww :-/

But I've also seen our cats to lick up all the good stuff, while leaving the pill in it untouched :D

Is that simply a misunderstanding, or what does that OP talk about specifically?

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Q: What happened to my old account?

I used to use Stack Exchange a lot with an email-based login, but I haven't been active for a couple years. When I came here just now I had an Inbox with messages, and the trophy icon showed me a list of my achievements. So the site obviously knows who I am. But when I tried to join this communit...

I am not sure if that's just flag worthy for closure as not reproducible?

SmokeDetector

12:52 PM

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@SmokeDetector tpu-

John Dvorak

1:55 PM

Oh boy. An SE developer arguing that we should keep thanks in posts? I don't think that's a good sign...

(reference: "rolling out" blog post, a short bit into the comments section)

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If you could edit out Thanks there's probably more to fix, unless you're editing a turd and shouldn't at all.

John Dvorak

I rarely if ever think "this question would have been great if only these small tweaks were made to it". More often it is "why would you even want to assign to the result of the addition operator, rather than to a variable" or "oh joy, another 1000 lines of code to find a missing right bracket in. I think I'll pass."

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It's rare to find pearls in sand, yes.

John Dvorak

2:15 PM

I like he realtime page for most of SE, but it also finds plenty of stuff to close on SO

Journeyman Geek

2:25 PM

@JohnDvorak wasn't that a while back?

John Dvorak

I only noticed the blog post today

Journeyman Geek

ah

link anyway?

I was thinking of something specific

John Dvorak

stackoverflow.blog/2018/06/21/…

Journeyman Geek

@JohnDvorak I'm clearly tired but I don't see it

John Dvorak

the link seems to scroll so that the comment I'm trying to link is halfway past the top edge of the screen, so scroll up a little.

Journeyman Geek

2:34 PM

err

who's the dev?

John Dvorak

I assumed Joe Friend was

Journeyman Geek

ahh

PM, but I guess

John Dvorak

If he isn't, why is he writing blog posts on behalf of the company? :P

Journeyman Geek

oh

he's the project manager

Somewhat Memorable Name

@JohnDvorak This. Is. Why. We. Need. GitHub's. Reaction!

πάντα ῥεῖ

2:44 PM

I'm assuming @JoeFriend is coming up in good faith and constructiveness.

Somewhat Memorable Name

(fighting to death to get this implemented)

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@SomewhatMemorableName What would you think Nat Friedman's contribution could be well about that?

Somewhat Memorable Name

> Why didn’t Tim follow up to his own Post? -- Jhawins

cricket :/

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John Dvorak

Most likely they realized the resulting post wouldn't be well received. You don't want employees Q-banned on meta, do you? :P

πάντα ῥεῖ

2:54 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu-

πάντα ῥεῖ

3:07 PM

@JohnDvorak I believe it's pretty hard to get Q-banned at MSE at all.

That would apply for spammers, or notorious trolls.

@bjb568 3rd time today I see you appearing now. Don't you have to contribute anything?

πάντα ῥεῖ

3:23 PM

I am pretty sure many people (including the SE devs) are pretty confused regarding all that claims about inclusion, and how that could be managed better within the SE network.

As being a white, male, straight person it's probably hard for me to see those concerns at all.

Somewhat Memorable Name

TIL, "inclusion" is a terror word.

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There's actually need for gathering data about the impact of supposed exclusion and hostility.

Catija

Lots of white male straight people I've talked to seem to understand it just fine... it's a matter of being alert and knowing what to look out for. That takes some work and learning but it's not impossible... you just have to want to learn.

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@SomewhatMemorableName We're dealing with terror smoothly and start scientific investigation.

@Catija I also understand these concerns, but I'm still not convinced that they hit "Des Pudels Kern".

Catija

... I don't know what that is.

πάντα ῥεῖ

3:29 PM

I never thought I was exclusive in any way. I'm different, and ever was from the mass.

@Catija No one knows ...

"The poodle's core" is probably a not so good translation ...

Somewhat Memorable Name

err... robotic dog?

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Though being a white, male, straight, I am first a human being, with some reflective and emphatic skills. The only thing is I probably never was a victim of exclusion regarding my skin color, gender or sexual orientation.

@SomewhatMemorableName Nah

It's almost for sure that some new users would feel offended if their "Thank you in advance" is edited out by someone, without given much more in depth information why so. They always been told that politeness will be helpful in interaction with other people, and now that: "You're posting irrelevant noise".

Let's make them sure what's actually relevant in 1st place.

peterh

@πάνταῥεῖ You were.

@πάνταῥεῖ But talking about it is very dangerous.

SmokeDetector

3:47 PM

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The thing regarding inclusion is mostly a result of self-fulfilling prophecy most of the time IMO. These people would claim anything exclusive regarding their expectations and former experiences, no matter of what quality of their posts could be judged justifiaby.

@peterh I already was, yes. But I can get over that.

@peterh No, it isn't. We need to find a conscious way to leave such shit behind.

@JohnDvorak In other words: There's no "normal". Leave that behind, be emphatic, be helpful, be nice.

Somewhat Memorable Name

Be normal.

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I'll happily tip my toes into another (different?) kind of stream in a few days ;)

@SomewhatMemorableName God no! Why?

Somewhat Memorable Name

4:03 PM

Yeah, that's the rudest suggestion I've ever typed...

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Normatives are the big fences and walls hindering anyone to make their own ways.

It just takes too much energy in reflecting if you still are within the normative, instead of simply doing what your guts are telling you that's good for you.

I am getting 54 tomorrow. I am pretty sure, there's better ways to waste the energy I am still left with.

Somewhat Memorable Name

"Just enjoy your life to the fullest"

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I love to watch streams flowing. That's one of my very delights since I got conscious and can remember (age of 2 or so)

Shadow Wizard

@JohnDvorak you mean Joe? He's not a developer, he's project manager. There's big difference. (Management level)

SmokeDetector

4:23 PM

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@SmokeDetector tpu-

@ShadowWizard His position doesn't really matter regarding this.

SmokeDetector

4:43 PM

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πάντα ῥεῖ

5:01 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu-

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:55 PM

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Q: What should I do if I spot a user who is leaving bad comments on multiple network sites?

I noticed that a specific user is leaving many comments that either violate the "Be Nice" policy or are otherwise not really acceptable as comments, on multiple network sites. It would be best if they were investigated all together, rather than separately on the sites. What should I do to report ...

support comments flags network-profile comment-flags

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@Sonic No brainer ...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:15 PM

@πάνταῥεῖ @Catija As a white-but-not-white, aro-ace, and neuro-atypical person, I have a certain affinity towards inclusion.

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@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog "white-but-not-white" So you're achieving some tan in the summer months as most of us do?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Fair-skinned, but not actually Caucasian.

People mistake me as white

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That's not the point anyways my dear @sonic

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Is giving even more categories really constructive?

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog And that actually matters?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Well...I fail to see how you don't consider it constructive

πάντα ῥεῖ

I fail to see how categorizing people about their skin color, race or gender would come up with something constructive at all.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:25 PM

Then I wonder why you did it. Also, when you're categorizing yourself ...that's different.

Self-hatred

Self-hatred (also called self loathing) refers to an extreme dislike or hatred of oneself, or being angry at or even prejudiced against oneself. The term is also used to designate a dislike or hatred of a group, family, social class, or stereotype to which one belongs and/or has. For instance, "ethnic self-hatred" is the extreme dislike of one's ethnic group or cultural classification. It may be associated with aspects of autophobia. The term "self-hatred" is used infrequently by psychologists and psychiatrists, who would usually describe people who hate themselves as "persons with low self-esteem...

(specific section)

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I said that, to become into the void. There's nothing to find within my self reflection. That's my point.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

[adds πάνταῥεῖ to ignore list]

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@TheWeirdWorld @surajrao That's the very principle, yes 😀

Tweeted by GntherMakulik on June 22, 2018 at 5:40 PM in reply to TheWeirdWorld

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Do whatever you want with me. You can't deny truth tho.

@sonic

Space Balls - Ludicrous Speed

►

That's not nice though.

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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:42 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu-

πάντα ῥεῖ

6:52 PM

The least thing the ongoing inclusion discussion needs is self concentric whiners of either site.

Why does it matter who flagged the comment? Also, I'm pretty sure that moderator attention flags don't count for instant deletion... but that's a big leap. Either way, you've ignored what is the most obvious choice. — Catija 52 mins ago

SmokeDetector

7:13 PM

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@SmokeDetector tpu-

Somewhat Memorable Name

The alternative is to ping SE staffs here, as can be shown with ShadowWiz pinging SE staffs on here to nuke network-wide spammer, but that's probably too far-fetched for something that per-site mods can manage. So, yeah... I don't see why flagging 1 comment for mod attention is not the best choice while also mentioning that it's a network-wide behavior... since mods have their own chat room to communicate with other mods (TL)

Shadow Wizard

@πάνταῥεῖ sure it does, big time. Ordinary developer can say all day long that he/she supports leaving "thanks" in posts and not editing it out, it has no effect. Joe on the other hand can make it into official policy and decide those who edit it out will be punished.

(Extreme case, but in theory it can happen.)

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I mentioned he's in good faith probably, and thus we should judge 1st IMO

Shadow Wizard

@SomewhatMemorableName well, it's not "SE staffs", rather single one who agreed to be pinged for that long ago, some kind of unofficial channel to nuke network wide spammers. I won't ping any other staff for such matter. :)

@πάνταῥεῖ and now I lost you... :/

Judge what first? Who?

πάντα ῥεῖ

7:24 PM

@ShadowWizard valid edits

Somewhat Memorable Name

Next time, we'll see users editing "tanks in advantage" to "thanks in advance" instead of removing it...

Shadow Wizard

@SomewhatMemorableName this already happens, already did.

I saw tons of those back when reviewing edits on SO.

dunno about full edits though, need SEDE query for this... @rene can probably pull something off. ;)

Somewhat Memorable Name

they should have been rejected... "thanks in advance" doesn't give any additional context, while "tanks in advantage" does!

πάντα ῥεῖ

tons of turds touched probably

Shadow Wizard

@SomewhatMemorableName of course, I always rejected

@πάνταῥεῖ ewwww

I try not to touch turds, the smell sticks. :D

SmokeDetector

10:12 PM

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bjb568

@πάνταῥεῖ Probably just caching.

peterh

10:36 PM

@SmokeDetector Also Wikipedia started to kill the not enough system-conform edits with AI. The result is not nice. The Wiki has luck, the content produced until now saves it, but the SE works differently. The problem is, if you narrow the people by killing the so-named "extremes", the result will still have its own "extremes", and the system re-organizes itself to create the intention to eliminate also them.

Journeyman Geek

Erm. @peterh smokedetector is a bot

peterh

@JourneymanGeek Unless he is not a "perpetuum mobile AI" capable to develop itself, there is a NI behind it and it likely hears my complain. And ignores it.

Journeyman Geek

10:59 PM

Assuming they hang out here

And well, smokey's rules are designed to reduce false positives as much as possible and if we got legit posts flagged and mods heard of it, words would be had

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