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12:25 AM
Heh. My brother likes em chewy so just soaks em in water
1:10 AM
@Catija the lovely thing about cooking is always eating your mistakes
1:21 AM
Depends on how much you mess up. :D
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5:31 AM
@Shog9 That's what our dog is for:)
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7:58 AM
@Shadow Could you please update the bullet list in the addendum in this answer with other features that are known to not receive much dev work?
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10:14 AM
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10:39 AM
@MartinJames poor dog... 🐕 :D
If you're running a farm, the pigs will be delighted :)
@ShadowWizard I offered him a carbonized burger, (phone call while BBQ), a couple weeks ago - he did not refuse:)
Dogs aren't that picky most of the time. I'd be curious if Ash would refuse.
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog to be honest I don't feel comfortable with such a list, as it appears to be formal but it's not. I agree about apps 100%, which are officially frozen, and Area51 too, but as for chat we can't know for sure. The team might give it some boost all of a sudden.
And can't think of something additional to add there.
@πάνταῥεῖ well, no dogs for me but from what I've seen and heard, it's not good to let them eat anything, e.g. they can get sick at some point.
Specialized dog food isn't cheap, but guess it's the best fit for them... :)
10:54 AM
It's particularly not good to feed them with choclit (unless that special stuff made for dogs)
A cat would just moan and turn its back to you :)
And probably just not come back for the rest of the day ...
@πάνταῥεῖ Ash is a snob :p
Actually has an odd diet. Lots of mashed peas and corn
Dosen't eat much kibble... Won't touch the tinned stuff
Weird dog! ;)
Reminds me of my daughter, who doesn't like chocolate. o_O
(the older daughter, the baby daughter like it very much)
She'll be happy about that in a few years probably ;)
nah, she eats sugar in other forms.
Just not... brown.
This is burden in birthdays, as we must make two cakes every time: the traditional chocolate cake, plus non-chocolate cake for her, e.g. apple or orange cake.
11:09 AM
He had a bad experience with his first owner and food
At one point he wouldn't eat kibble if it wasn't aired out a few hours
@JourneymanGeek oh... this might explain things, yeah
+ we are veggie so cooking meat was out of the question
And.. so we tried mashed peas...
IDK why
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11:34 AM
One thing I've seen dogs and cats really like equally well is Leberwurst (Liverwurst?). But I'm not so sure it's healthy for them, because of the high fat content.
Good to foist them any kind of medication though.
11:50 AM
Hah. Ash absolutely will not take treats from strangers
And he's too smart to trick pill
We basically need to do it the hard way if he doesn't like it
Aww :-/
But I've also seen our cats to lick up all the good stuff, while leaving the pill in it untouched :D
Is that simply a misunderstanding, or what does that OP talk about specifically?
Q: What happened to my old account?

Doug LearyI used to use Stack Exchange a lot with an email-based login, but I haven't been active for a couple years. When I came here just now I had an Inbox with messages, and the trophy icon showed me a list of my achievements. So the site obviously knows who I am. But when I tried to join this communit...

I am not sure if that's just flag worthy for closure as not reproducible?
12:52 PM
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1:55 PM
Oh boy. An SE developer arguing that we should keep thanks in posts? I don't think that's a good sign...
(reference: "rolling out" blog post, a short bit into the comments section)
If you could edit out Thanks there's probably more to fix, unless you're editing a turd and shouldn't at all.
I rarely if ever think "this question would have been great if only these small tweaks were made to it". More often it is "why would you even want to assign to the result of the addition operator, rather than to a variable" or "oh joy, another 1000 lines of code to find a missing right bracket in. I think I'll pass."
It's rare to find pearls in sand, yes.
2:15 PM
I like he realtime page for most of SE, but it also finds plenty of stuff to close on SO
2:25 PM
@JohnDvorak wasn't that a while back?
I only noticed the blog post today
link anyway?
I was thinking of something specific
@JohnDvorak I'm clearly tired but I don't see it
the link seems to scroll so that the comment I'm trying to link is halfway past the top edge of the screen, so scroll up a little.
2:34 PM
who's the dev?
I assumed Joe Friend was
PM, but I guess
If he isn't, why is he writing blog posts on behalf of the company? :P
he's the project manager
2:44 PM
I'm assuming @JoeFriend is coming up in good faith and constructiveness.
(fighting to death to get this implemented)
@SomewhatMemorableName What would you think Nat Friedman's contribution could be well about that?
> Why didn’t Tim follow up to his own Post? -- Jhawins
cricket :/
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Most likely they realized the resulting post wouldn't be well received. You don't want employees Q-banned on meta, do you? :P
2:54 PM
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3:07 PM
@JohnDvorak I believe it's pretty hard to get Q-banned at MSE at all.
That would apply for spammers, or notorious trolls.
@bjb568 3rd time today I see you appearing now. Don't you have to contribute anything?
3:23 PM
I am pretty sure many people (including the SE devs) are pretty confused regarding all that claims about inclusion, and how that could be managed better within the SE network.
As being a white, male, straight person it's probably hard for me to see those concerns at all.
TIL, "inclusion" is a terror word.
There's actually need for gathering data about the impact of supposed exclusion and hostility.
Lots of white male straight people I've talked to seem to understand it just fine... it's a matter of being alert and knowing what to look out for. That takes some work and learning but it's not impossible... you just have to want to learn.
@SomewhatMemorableName We're dealing with terror smoothly and start scientific investigation.
@Catija I also understand these concerns, but I'm still not convinced that they hit "Des Pudels Kern".
... I don't know what that is.
3:29 PM
I never thought I was exclusive in any way. I'm different, and ever was from the mass.
@Catija No one knows ...
"The poodle's core" is probably a not so good translation ...
err... robotic dog?
Though being a white, male, straight, I am first a human being, with some reflective and emphatic skills. The only thing is I probably never was a victim of exclusion regarding my skin color, gender or sexual orientation.
@SomewhatMemorableName Nah
It's almost for sure that some new users would feel offended if their "Thank you in advance" is edited out by someone, without given much more in depth information why so. They always been told that politeness will be helpful in interaction with other people, and now that: "You're posting irrelevant noise".
Let's make them sure what's actually relevant in 1st place.
@πάνταῥεῖ You were.
@πάνταῥεῖ But talking about it is very dangerous.
3:47 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body: CheckSum error , cannot boot by Arpit Jhunjhunwala on superuser.com
The thing regarding inclusion is mostly a result of self-fulfilling prophecy most of the time IMO. These people would claim anything exclusive regarding their expectations and former experiences, no matter of what quality of their posts could be judged justifiaby.
@peterh I already was, yes. But I can get over that.
@peterh No, it isn't. We need to find a conscious way to leave such shit behind.
@JohnDvorak In other words: There's no "normal". Leave that behind, be emphatic, be helpful, be nice.
I'll happily tip my toes into another (different?) kind of stream in a few days ;)
@SomewhatMemorableName God no! Why?
4:03 PM
Yeah, that's the rudest suggestion I've ever typed...
Normatives are the big fences and walls hindering anyone to make their own ways.
It just takes too much energy in reflecting if you still are within the normative, instead of simply doing what your guts are telling you that's good for you.
I am getting 54 tomorrow. I am pretty sure, there's better ways to waste the energy I am still left with.
"Just enjoy your life to the fullest"
I love to watch streams flowing. That's one of my very delights since I got conscious and can remember (age of 2 or so)
@JohnDvorak you mean Joe? He's not a developer, he's project manager. There's big difference. (Management level)
4:23 PM
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@ShadowWizard His position doesn't really matter regarding this.
4:43 PM
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5:01 PM
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5:55 PM
Q: What should I do if I spot a user who is leaving bad comments on multiple network sites?

Sonic the Inclusive HedgehogI noticed that a specific user is leaving many comments that either violate the "Be Nice" policy or are otherwise not really acceptable as comments, on multiple network sites. It would be best if they were investigated all together, rather than separately on the sites. What should I do to report ...

@Sonic No brainer ...
6:15 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ @Catija As a white-but-not-white, aro-ace, and neuro-atypical person, I have a certain affinity towards inclusion.
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog "white-but-not-white" So you're achieving some tan in the summer months as most of us do?
Fair-skinned, but not actually Caucasian.
People mistake me as white
That's not the point anyways my dear @sonic
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Is giving even more categories really constructive?
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog And that actually matters?
Well...I fail to see how you don't consider it constructive
I fail to see how categorizing people about their skin color, race or gender would come up with something constructive at all.
6:25 PM
Then I wonder why you did it. Also, when you're categorizing yourself ...that's different.
Self-hatred (also called self loathing) refers to an extreme dislike or hatred of oneself, or being angry at or even prejudiced against oneself. The term is also used to designate a dislike or hatred of a group, family, social class, or stereotype to which one belongs and/or has. For instance, "ethnic self-hatred" is the extreme dislike of one's ethnic group or cultural classification. It may be associated with aspects of autophobia. The term "self-hatred" is used infrequently by psychologists and psychiatrists, who would usually describe people who hate themselves as "persons with low self-esteem...
(specific section)
I said that, to become into the void. There's nothing to find within my self reflection. That's my point.
[adds πάνταῥεῖ to ignore list]
@TheWeirdWorld @surajrao That's the very principle, yes 😀
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Do whatever you want with me. You can't deny truth tho.
That's not nice though.
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6:42 PM
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6:52 PM
The least thing the ongoing inclusion discussion needs is self concentric whiners of either site.
Why does it matter who flagged the comment? Also, I'm pretty sure that moderator attention flags don't count for instant deletion... but that's a big leap. Either way, you've ignored what is the most obvious choice. — Catija 52 mins ago
7:13 PM
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The alternative is to ping SE staffs here, as can be shown with ShadowWiz pinging SE staffs on here to nuke network-wide spammer, but that's probably too far-fetched for something that per-site mods can manage. So, yeah... I don't see why flagging 1 comment for mod attention is not the best choice while also mentioning that it's a network-wide behavior... since mods have their own chat room to communicate with other mods (TL)
@πάνταῥεῖ sure it does, big time. Ordinary developer can say all day long that he/she supports leaving "thanks" in posts and not editing it out, it has no effect. Joe on the other hand can make it into official policy and decide those who edit it out will be punished.
(Extreme case, but in theory it can happen.)
I mentioned he's in good faith probably, and thus we should judge 1st IMO
@SomewhatMemorableName well, it's not "SE staffs", rather single one who agreed to be pinged for that long ago, some kind of unofficial channel to nuke network wide spammers. I won't ping any other staff for such matter. :)
@πάνταῥεῖ and now I lost you... :/
Judge what first? Who?
7:24 PM
@ShadowWizard valid edits
Next time, we'll see users editing "tanks in advantage" to "thanks in advance" instead of removing it...
@SomewhatMemorableName this already happens, already did.
I saw tons of those back when reviewing edits on SO.
dunno about full edits though, need SEDE query for this... @rene can probably pull something off. ;)
they should have been rejected... "thanks in advance" doesn't give any additional context, while "tanks in advantage" does!
tons of turds touched probably
@SomewhatMemorableName of course, I always rejected
@πάνταῥεῖ ewwww
I try not to touch turds, the smell sticks. :D
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10:12 PM
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@πάνταῥεῖ Probably just caching.
10:36 PM
@SmokeDetector Also Wikipedia started to kill the not enough system-conform edits with AI. The result is not nice. The Wiki has luck, the content produced until now saves it, but the SE works differently. The problem is, if you narrow the people by killing the so-named "extremes", the result will still have its own "extremes", and the system re-organizes itself to create the intention to eliminate also them.
Erm. @peterh smokedetector is a bot
@JourneymanGeek Unless he is not a "perpetuum mobile AI" capable to develop itself, there is a NI behind it and it likely hears my complain. And ignores it.
10:59 PM
Assuming they hang out here
And well, smokey's rules are designed to reduce false positives as much as possible and if we got legit posts flagged and mods heard of it, words would be had

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