Tavern on the Meta

@JeremyBanks heh, I seriously plan to do that. Not using it that much anyway so it won't be big loss for me. But heck, that company is just.... evil. Too bad they're too big so they can't really be nuked away, all this recent fuss will go away soon and the only result is small hole in some pockets.

Anonymous

I didn't delete, because I'm weak, but I did deactivate my profile and convince several Messenger-using friends to install Signal.

Anonymous

@ShadowWizard I think the biggest way it will impact them is through employee recruiting and morale.

Anonymous

This is trending among the groups they hire from, and the stock being down 15% since the beginning of this isn't going to be thrilling their heavily-stock-compensated staff.

Shadow Wizard

@JeremyBanks deactivate? There's such a thing? lol... So you'll activate it again in 6-8 weeks?

Anonymous

We'll see if I'm strong enough to hold out.

Shadow Wizard

9:38 PM

@JeremyBanks FB lost tons of money in its early days, no? It didn't stop them from becoming what they are today. So they can totally afford losing any amount of money, IMO.

Anonymous

I don't expect them to go bankrupt.

Shadow Wizard

Exactly

Anonymous

but Zuckerberg doesn't just want to be profitable, he wants to have a good image for himself in history.

Anonymous

and right now, he is terrified of what is happening to that.

Anonymous

(I may be projecting but this is my narrative.)

Anonymous

9:40 PM

He's being framed as someone who incompetently enabled privacy abuses because he didn't care about his users.

Anonymous

and helped produce Trump.

Anonymous

and it's no secret that Facebook has pretty liberal employees who do not like Trump, like most SFBA tech companies.

Catija

I think that's why I'm so confused by the FB evil side...

He clearly wants to be a good guy... but everything I ever hear is that FB is exploiting their users.

Anonymous

Facebook/Zuck's early investors and mentors included less moral characters like Thiel.

Catija

But not all of them were less so... there was an NPR interview with one of them who said that he's very disappointed.

Anonymous

9:43 PM

Yeah.

Catija

npr.org/2018/03/21/595886212/…

Anonymous

What the F*** Was Facebook Thinking? by James Allworth

Catija

Oh, wait... same guy, different interview: npr.org/2018/03/20/595123564/…

Anonymous

> For the longest period of time, Facebook was an advertising business that dreamed of being something else other than an advertising business. It wanted to be a platform. [...] And so began the great five year Facebook data giveaway to developers: If you build your apps on our platform, we’ll give you more user data than you could possibly imagine.

Anonymous

This is a pretty nice analysis of how the Cambrige Analytica situation happened.

Anonymous

9:45 PM

Obviously, #DeleteFacebook is not just about that, that's just a nice condensation point for built-up anti-Facebook energy.

Catija

There's a reason that I've never installed the Messenger app.

Anonymous

Like many things, it seems to have been more privacy-destroying on Android than iOS.

Catija

I don't know... my understanding was that you were required to let it access your contacts list. which... wasn't gonna happen.

Anonymous