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user315433

12:15 AM

I need help for my code which is due this period which is 1:40PM NZT

user315433

+1 for being specific.

user202362

12:26 AM

in comparison, must say I don't stalk as much as many others

user202362

I mean, even my preys are voluntary

user202362

although they don't say the such as 'your rod and your staff, they comfort me'

user315433

2:00 AM

"Protein structure prediction and design with Rosetta Stack Exchange" is going to be a new length record if it launches.

HTTPS

3:09 AM

@SFTP wut?

HTTPS

3:53 AM

Just got a First Post review on a question that was asked 10 days ago...

Sonic Wizard

@Catija Nice stamp :)

Feeds

Do I just leave money in my mailbox? How much? How much money do they need, anyway? I guess it probably depends how the economy is doing. If stocks go up, should I leave more money in my mailbox or less?

HTTPS

@Doug I'll concede that point; big, but it doesn't answer my question. This looks like a golden opportunity to bootstrap the next massively successful "Stack Overflow" for the scientific community — instead of going down a path of segregating each community by discipline, and then again by tool. The blockchain/cryptocurrencies are doing this and the model is wildly broken and everyone loses. I'm just trying to understand how this does not belong in the science space created exactly for this type of subject. You can raise huge awareness in that community like the R community did in SO. Win, win — Robert Cartaino ♦ Mar 7 at 19:07

user202362

4:09 AM

Dear Stackexchange, I would like to donate my chickens

HTTPS

@TelKitty have you used the "Contact Us" link below?

user202362

@SFTP also ... what with the soft toys??

user202362

#CEOwithSoftToys

user315433

4:30 AM

@Feeds Gah, I keep forgetting the state tax. It's 3x as annoying as federal.

user315433

@HTTPS Likely, their previous first post got deleted, so their second post is now the first.

user315433

Got Marshal on eOS, with 13 NAA flags still pending... the oldest of which is Feb 22.

user315433

9

A: Old first post reviews on sites without audits enabled

Questions are added to the queue when they qualify for it. Normally, a question qualifies as a "first post" when it is posted - but there are situations where this doesn't happen until later on: The author loses a large amount of reputation (for instance, by offering bounties) The post's score ...

HTTPS

Could be that case. Thanks.

Sonic Wizard

4:53 AM

@rene chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/308265/…

Never mind, OP hammered it

user315433

5:21 AM

> You have no more close votes today; come back in 18 hours.

user315433

<< bored

user315433

It's annoying that Recommend deletion is two.whole.clicks in LQRQ. Writing a script to shorten it.

user202362

it's cl not d, cl!!!

user315433

5:52 AM

Wrong order of queues: CV before suggested edits. Now seeing pointless edits on questions that should be closed instead, and can't close. :(

Rob

@JeremyBanks Thanks for your support :)

Journeyman Geek

6:15 AM

closevote-plz meta.stackexchange.com/questions/308266/…

HTTPS

@JourneymanGeek almost voted with wrong reason... but now it's easier because it's the top one

user315433

Question about HTTP closed by HTTPS.

rene

6:54 AM

→ 65 messages moved to Chimney

Shadow Wizard

7:43 AM

Hey need help, I have solid idea how to reproduce this. Need someone to choose "Improve Edit" for an edit I'll suggest (as anonymous user, don't want with sock), and remove the title change I will make. If it goes as planned, the old title will be visible, but the new title will show in "Top Network Posts" of the question author. @rene @JourneymanGeek @HTTPS are you in?

rene

I'm in but only for another 10 minutes or so

Shadow Wizard

oh, congrats for name change, @HTT!

@rene awesome! Please do it here. :)

If we see the new title here, I'll edit the bug report to reflect the actual reason.

rene

@ShadowWizard done

Shadow Wizard

thanks... but I was wrong after all, it's not changed in top network posts list after all. :(

HTTPS

shouldiblamecaching.com ?

Shadow Wizard

7:48 AM

Maybe some race condition... oh well. Guess if a dev can look better into it if it happens again.

@HTTPS no, the bad title was displayed for over a year.

HTTPS

@ShadowWizard oh and yes, thanks. (This is the first time I got congratulated due to name change??)

rene

No, it was about time you got secure ...

HTTPS

@ShadowWizard for the test you just did though

rene

OK, I'm out, I commute to the office.

Shadow Wizard

@rene enjoy!

@HTTPS we'll see, but I doubt it.

@HTTPS well, you're not the first... ;)

May 3 '16 at 7:41, by Shadow Wizard

Oh, @Sun didn't have chance to congrat you for the new name... so congrats! Infinite light... cool!

HTTPS

7:55 AM

:)

btw, I guess it has something to do with the redacted revision

Shadow Wizard

@HTTPS what do you mean? The redaction happened after the bug was reported, to remove the bad title from the profile.

HTTPS

huh, oh yah, just read the comment regarding that. hmm...

Princess Luna

@ShadowWizard Did you upgrade to @HTTPS now? :p

rene

9:35 AM

@ShadowWizard well, that took me 30 minutes extra because of an accident.

so not much enjoy in that

HTTPS

wut accident!?

SmokeDetector

10:15 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Which is the best online mobile repair shop in oxford? by user386700 on meta.SE

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

0

A: Why is Aluminium Carbonate unstable?

I have had 4 hours of sleep and my grades are UED what should I do?

Journeyman Geek

UED?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

10:31 AM

Under Every Dormitory

Journeyman Geek

erm, ok

HTTPS

!!/wut

SmokeDetector

@HTTPS Whaddya mean, 'wut'? Humans...

Magisch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ wot

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Unacceptable Even Dandy

Uncommon Energetic Daffodils

HTTPS

10:35 AM

is that rene?

Journeyman Geek

Is he accusing @rene of being ... Energetic?

Magisch

@rene , the Uncommon Energetic Daffodil

rene

11:13 AM

@JourneymanGeek first order offense

SmokeDetector

11:29 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Can you carry peacock eggs from the USA to India in a flight? by William Adams on travel.SE

Derpy

11:43 AM

@Catija To be fair, Sega is much much much much more dumber than than. This is the actual collaboration they did

And, obviously, it backfired horrendously, generating a ton of bad memes in the process.

Magisch

@Derpy Hey you know this IP mainly aimed at children? Lets do a co-op with hooters

Journeyman Geek

heh

I think the folks who actually played sonic on actual sega hardware are in their 20s and 30s

we're old man, old

Derpy

1:09 PM

@JourneymanGeek that said, most of the players that actually played sonic on actual sega hardware are the ones that probably skipped sonic forces, aka the game they were advertising.

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek Yah but the appeal of sonic is decidedly to children

minus a bunch of nostalgic people

In any case doing a promotion with hooters is like a PR person's way to creatively get fired tier of idea

Derpy

Based on the history of bad sonic games, I think they will give that guy a promotion instead.

every action made in the name of destroying the image of they mayor IP must be rewarded.

See: Shadow the Hedgeog, also know as "let's make a Sonic game with guns!"

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

1:28 PM

Hmm . . .

No.$\mathstrut$ — Ivan Neretin 14 mins ago

He really likes strutting

Derpy

Taken from Typescript official documentation

class Octopus {
    readonly name: string;
    readonly numberOfLegs: number = 8;
    constructor (theName: string) {
        this.name = theName;
    }
}
let dad = new Octopus("Man with the 8 strong legs");
dad.name = "Man with the 3-piece suit"; // error! name is readonly.

Where you thinking of any specific game, Mr. Documentation Writer?

user315433

2:51 PM

Suggested edit. Is this an improvement to the post? Perhaps, from a certain point of view.

user315433

3:31 PM

Life of a coder (expanding brain version) 1. automatically pick top voted answer @StackOverflow 2. evaluate answers and choose appropriately @StackOverflow 3. answer questions @Stackoverflow 4. become a gardener

Tweeted by midzer on March 23, 2018 at 3:16 PM

user315433

Shog is an example of stages 3 and 4.

Catija

Uh... What? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/308292/…

user315433

There's a troll on meta currently.

Catija

... Why... meta.stackexchange.com/questions/308294/… This... is... stupid.

Derpy

both are deleted. You should undelete them so that we may join the ranting

Catija

3:43 PM

Here's another one. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/308295/…

I recognize that name, though...

user315433

@Derpy The troll is likely reading this room, so better not

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How small can I expect FDM 3d printers to print? by user10286 on 3dprinting.SE

HTTPS

4:02 PM

that user again...

user315433

I can go in Triage and click all the buttons, until an error message "out of close votes" appears. What's the point?

user315433

I can't mark questions as Unsalvageable in Triage when I'm out of Close votes for the day by LittleBobbyTables

user315433

Reported 3.25 years ago, no action. :(

user315433

> Retired.

I've burned out on the site, outlived my usefulness, gotten sick of all the serial downvotes that don't go unreversed, given up on the clueless reviewers, and been fed up with seeing so many valid flags (from myself and others) rejected with "declined - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it." Enjoy the mess you've made.

user315433

4:22 PM

> Primary closes in 3 hours.

user315433

Isn't it weird how we get 4 days to vote, and that's over the weekend?

user315433

Primary round is twice as long as needs to be.

Catija

Hmmm... yeah. I was thinking about that yesterday, actually. Primary could easily be 2 days, vote starting Wednesday afternoon.

The rankings in relation to who's above the line and who's below haven't changed since then. primaries.charcoal-se.org/vote_counts/graph

HTTPS

4:49 PM

inb4 most of the voters forgot that it's still primary voting and thus didn't vote on the election instead

user315433

Q: Do these various Markdown-enabled systems play well together? A: ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯

Tweeted by kerrick on March 23, 2018 at 4:32 PM

user315433

Um... stormtroopers are not normally armed with lightsabers...

HTTPS

@notch The regex shrug: ¯\\\_$ツ$\_/¯

Tweeted by RaylaxKai on November 15, 2016 at 7:13 PM in reply to notch

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: How to add calculations to the gnome search bar? by hurriyetnews on askubuntu.com

Magisch

@Catija trends crystallize very early

I don't think I've seen a primary yet where orders changed significantly since shortly after the beginning

SmokeDetector

5:00 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: E: Package 'apache2' has no installation candidate on Ubuntu 17.10 by hurriyetnews on askubuntu.com

user315433

OTOH one may argue that the time cost is spent upfront. A lot of information to absorb before one can decide whom to support.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: E: Package 'apache2' has no installation candidate on Ubuntu 17.10 by hurriyetnews on askubuntu.com

user315433

Smokey's dumping long deleted posts here again. :E

user315433

Whereas, after the primary round (if one participated in it) not much time is required for final vote.

Catija

@SFTP the average user never reads that information.

user315433

5:07 PM

Yes, but we are optimizing for pearls...

user315433

Or rather, elections should be optimized for diligent voters.

SmokeDetector

5:18 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 1 out of 2): How to switch between two websites in a domain name? by Sputnik International on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 2 out of 2): How to switch between two websites in a domain name? by Sputnik International on askubuntu.com

user315433

Whatever, Smokey. :/

Sonic Wizard

5:30 PM

@Shog9 I'm curious about something: are there users without enough reputation to flag contacting SE to request a post be closed or deleted? If so, does this happen frequently or rarely?

Shog9

this is rare

most common case is probably folks who posted something they shouldn't have, flagged for deletion and were denied.

user315433

sd 2gone

Sonic Wizard

14 hours ago, by Sonic Wizard

@Catija Nice stamp :)

@Catija I got the stickers yesterday. The postmark was worn off, but as far as I could tell, it said March 8.

SmokeDetector

6:30 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: How can I retreived the recently Viewed documents with Microsoft Graph API? by Redhwan Ghailan on sharepoint.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username, blacklisted user: How can I retreived the recently Viewed documents with Microsoft Graph API? by Hurriyet Daily News on sharepoint.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, blacklisted user: How can I retreived the recently Viewed documents with Microsoft Graph API? by Redhwan Ghailan on sharepoint.SE

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Catija

6:46 PM

@SonicWizard Yeah, it was a Thursday, so that sounds right.

Jhoverit

@shog9 around?

I am treading carefully. I just don't know what has happened

Sonic Wizard

@Jhoverit What?

@SmokeDetector naa-

Jhoverit

I'm seeing that I was banned for 30 days for no obvious reason

I am sure there is one...

Sonic Wizard

Suspension? Review ban?

Jhoverit

Nothing.

Just banned from chat at the same time @Shog9 froze the room I was in. I am clueless. Just asking for info lol

Shog9

6:55 PM

@Jhoverit I'm enjoying a cup of fresh-brewed coffee

Jhoverit

I need one, I've been swamped since 9am and haven't had time :/

Shog9

I'm too lazy to look; are you user1596138

Jhoverit

Yes

Sterling Archer

Am also curious why the room was frozen -- not here to raise hell, I thought we ROs handled the bad egg.

Jhoverit

Sorry, didn't realize names were different

Shog9

6:56 PM

wanna explain why you flagged my explanation of the room being frozen?

That's not exactly a helpful action in the context

Jhoverit

...

Then I've got an answer.

Shog9

But I don't.

So, I'm gonna finish this coffee & cigarette & hope one materializes.

Sterling Archer

@Shog9 am I missing context on why the room was frozen in the first place, after the situation was rectified?

Jhoverit

I felt like drawing attention to what happened next.

That's about all

Sterling Archer

You should vape btw, it helped me quit cigs

Jhoverit

6:59 PM

Nobody knew what happened, felt like someone went rogue and stomped us. Good to have eyes before the room gets destroyed, we've been threatened before

If that's a 30 day ban, so be it

Sonic Wizard

Which room is this?

Shog9

I have some idiot trolling one site after another network-wide, the mods have 2.4K flags in the backlog, and the JS room has a pending mod flag and a kick-flag leading to a massive pile of nonsense.

Someone want to tell me why?

Sterling Archer

That's an easy one -- we've had a troll coming back to us and not changing behavior, disrupting the room. Multiple kicks, a moderator suspension, etc

Keeps coming back, keeps getting kicked, but not before derailing the room. So we decided to Kick on Sight to try and salvage it.

Shog9

That appears to have worked

Sterling Archer

Was that sarcasm?

Jhoverit

7:01 PM

@Shog9 I'm not an owner or a 10K user. So I got nothing on that. We have some problematic users show up weekly and can't ever get rid of them

Sterling Archer

(serious question)

Jhoverit

Kicks are great an all, but we need a real access list to permanently remove problem users.

Shog9

6 mins ago, by Shog9

wanna explain why you flagged my explanation of the room being frozen?

Jhoverit

I think I have attempted to explain that.

Shog9

not really

Jhoverit

7:03 PM

Yeah I was pretty forward

4 mins ago, by Jhoverit

I felt like drawing attention to what happened next.

4 mins ago, by Jhoverit

Nobody knew what happened, felt like someone went rogue and stomped us. Good to have eyes before the room gets destroyed, we've been threatened before

4 mins ago, by Jhoverit

If that's a 30 day ban, so be it

Most straight forward answer I can give.

Shog9

30-day ban is for anyone trying to pour gasoline on a fire

Jhoverit

You're the one who brought the gas

Shog9

if you misclicked or don't understand what flags do or were just being an idiot, fine. But "drawing attention" is what escalated this entire thing to begin with.

Jhoverit

I brought the community

Nah, I'm not stupid enough to pretend I misclicked :P

Shog9

Three kicks is pretty effective for getting rid of a problematic user. It knocks them out of the room for long enough for a moderator to respond.

Jhoverit

7:05 PM

I don't know what happened before I was there, no clue. It's been a busy day

We have a moderator in the room 90% of the time

Sterling Archer

We've had moderator help, but these problematic people keep coming back

Shog9

The problem is, any sane moderator will respond by looking at what's going on in the room and trying to determine who is causing problems. Then removing them.

Jhoverit

We'd love for him to be removed. We don't have the power tho

Shog9

If the room is full of dick jokes and people mocking anyone who suggests that maybe this is not a good look... That's making the job extra hard.

Sterling Archer

Some ROs are reluctant to kick on site because they're scared of creating a more hostile environment because people will complain and whatnot

Shog9

7:06 PM

...making what should be a really easy job extra hard.

Just for shits and giggles.

Sterling Archer

So what do you suggest we as ROs do here?

Shog9

So, you got someone causing problems in the room, kick 'em out. If they don't learn their lesson, then they'll be gone longer. But while you're doing that, don't provide lots and lots of reasons for mods to ignore the person causing problems and look at ... everyone else.

Sterling Archer

So you're saying kick, and then expect everybody to drop it?

Shog9

Unless it starts up again, sure.

that's ... kinda the whole point

if you wanted to carry on a long conversation with the kickee, why kick?

"Boy, sure glad to be rid of that troublemaker. Now, let's keep talking about him until he returns so he feels like he never really left!"

Sonic Wizard

Can behaving badly in chat beget a site suspension?

Sterling Archer

7:10 PM

I mean, I have never had an issue with that, but it's going to be fun finding out who thinks that's a dumb rule

Sonic Wizard

Or would that just be limited to chat?

Sterling Archer

That in itself is going to cause some stuff, but meh.

Taryn

@SonicWizard yes

Jhoverit

@shog9 the condescending shit is played out. We get it, you're not done with your coffee yet

John Dvorak

Are we talking about the chatroom that forced me to leave because I complained about textspeak?

Sonic Wizard

7:11 PM

So then these recidivist trolls can be suspended on the site?

Sterling Archer

@SonicWizard recent case: user who started this whole fiasco dodged a chat ban and tried to communicate with us via comments on Main, ended up with a 7 day site ban

Still came back

Taryn

@SonicWizard yes

John Dvorak

note to self: trying to communicate will earn you a sitewide ban.

Sonic Wizard

...and if they still persist, their site account can be deleted?

Shog9

or chat account, or both

Jhoverit

7:13 PM

I wear that kick with pride. Nothin wrong with expecting a tiny bit of mutual respect

Yall have a good one here.

Sonic Wizard

@Shog9 That's not too useful, they can recreate that immediately

Shog9

That's how you use kick.

@SonicWizard default chat deletion removes all content

all cross-links

John Dvorak

Note to public: this (Sterling's) chatroom called me a troll because I "refused" to follow a rule I wasn't allowed to ask to be explained

Sonic Wizard

But can't they instantly recreate their chat profile and be able to chat immediately because they have 20 rep?

John Dvorak

so, naturally, I couldn't follow a rule I didn't understand

Sterling Archer

7:15 PM

@JohnDvorak iirc you were asked many times to stop correcting peoples grammatical mistakes

Sonic Wizard

@JohnDvorak That is just so typically me

Sterling Archer

Which i don't care, but you were explained

Sonic Wizard

Perhaps here isn't the best place to discuss that?

@SterlingArcher You didn't capitalize your I

Is that a violation in your room?

John Dvorak

@SterlingArcher the kick was earned me because of correcting textspeak, not grammar. I was explicitly allowed to do that.

Sterling Archer

It can come across condescending, especially if it's repeated behavior

jcolebrand

7:17 PM

I think you're having a bad day when you get Shog riled

Sterling Archer

@JohnDvorak bud, I'm not concerned with that right now, I wasn't involved

jcolebrand

And there's no cause to name-call him or otherwise be frustrated by him

John Dvorak

But I'm not saying it because of me, I'm saying it because I suspect the case discussed here might be the same as mine.

Sonic Wizard

@JohnDvorak Perhaps the best way to verify that is to check the relevant transcripts?

John Dvorak

I mean, even if it's not the same case, I believe it might be relevant.

Sterling Archer

7:20 PM

@Shog9 would you be willing to drop a message into the room explaining what you told me about the noise around kicks?

Shog9

@SterlingArcher I just did.

Sterling Archer

Thanks

John Dvorak

I apologize that once more I jumped to a conclusion.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I apologize I just jumped into a serious discussion

Lemme guess, busy SO chatroom problems

John Dvorak

May I ask what's JS room's opinion of me as of right now?

Sonic Wizard

7:24 PM

SO primaries close in 35 minutes

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@JohnDvorak owls r ugly

Jhoverit

@JohnDvorak Afaik we loved you...

Sterling Archer

We do you love

A good bunch just didn't like the corrections

John Dvorak

Thanks :-)

Sterling Archer

no offense intended

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

7:29 PM

Ah man, no drama

John Dvorak

No offense taken, quite the opposite. Answer well appreciated.

Sterling Archer

Absolutely bud, I do hope you come back and join us

Just... not right now. We're sorting some things out atm.

It's messy.

John Dvorak

I assume "some things" are why you came here in the first place

well understood

Sterling Archer

@JohnDvorak how come you changed your name?

John Dvorak

People occasionally mistook me for a woman

rene

7:42 PM

You aren't?

John Dvorak

I have quite a ~~migty~~ opaque beard

Shadow Wizard

these days beard isn't sign of being a man anymore

Sterling Archer

Well I'll be damned

Madara Uchiha

@JohnDvorak Meh, I still get that occsionally

Shadow Wizard

@SterlingArcher didn't read all above drama, but won't one year chat ban be enough?

Madara Uchiha

7:46 PM

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, Mar 14 at 22:18, by TheOneWhoMade

Someone tell @MadaraUchiha she has visitors.

@ShadowWizard He did get a month this time

Shadow Wizard

@MadaraUchiha well, mods better be ready to give full year in exactly one month then. :)

Sterling Archer

I'll be honest I laughed so hard at that one @MadaraUchiha

I'm sorry

Madara Uchiha

@SterlingArcher It was amazing.

Shadow Wizard

Kicks are not meant to fight trolls, just as something to do until a mod arrives and put actual chat ban.

Sterling Archer

It's tricky, what happens when half the room disagrees with the kick?

Nobody wants to drive down that path, especially with friends

People get angry, more kicks are handed out.. and the room dies :(

Shadow Wizard

7:50 PM

@SterlingArcher in those cases, RO can freeze the room.

e.g. freeze for one hour, posting message like "Come back when you're all more calm".

John Dvorak

@SterlingArcher Let the events happen without moderation until the room agrees it's a bad idea?

Shadow Wizard

It's called "timeout", not "freeze" for RO

John Dvorak

That's essentially how God handled the Adam and Eve incident

Princess Luna

@MadaraUchiha Flag spam?

Madara Uchiha

@PrincessLuna Trolling for an extended period and through various kicks.

Princess Luna

7:52 PM

oh

John Dvorak

A one-minute room freeze can already do wonders

rene

Are mods notified when a room is put in a timeout?

I know that as an RO you can't see if a room is in timeout or not

John Dvorak

Can you not? TIL

Shog9

I gotta be honest: I kinda hate social systems. It's why I enjoy Stack Overflow so much; socialization is optional. So I tend to operate on a rather naive philosophy of social moderation:

If I'm in a room, then either...
- the folks whose conversation I don't care for will leave, or...
- I will leave
...and do what is necessary to make one of those happen.

YMMV

rene

@JohnDvorak no, I have a userscript that reveals it: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/285328/…

Catija

7:57 PM

But it's more complicated on SO because if the conversation in the room doesn't meet the Be Nice standards, they don't get to keep having the conversation.

John Dvorak

Sufficiently off-topic rooms also tended to get canceled. Is that still that case?

rene

At least the non-english and not related to programming at all rooms, I think this is the context

rene

8:32 PM

@Catija there is a comment of mine in that post ...

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@rene flags as spam Please read how not to be a spammer, and always show affiliation with your posts.

rene

But ... I need the votes :(

Sonic Wizard

Is there a reason why SE chat doesn't have the "[user] is typing..." feature?

Shog9

because it's annoying?

Catija

And stalkery.

Sonic Wizard

8:35 PM

Then why do most messaging services have it?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

And annoying stalkery

John Dvorak

I'd like that for answers

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@SonicWizard M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ is typing . . .

rene

SOCVR already has that: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/108179?m=29752146#29752146

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Still typing . . .

What kind of an argument is "we should have it because others do"?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ is typing . . .

rene

8:37 PM

to stay in the wow-factor

or be cool

Sonic Wizard

There is empty space between the last message and the bottom bar

user315433

Over the years I've decided I'd rather have them on than not, but I'm glad there aren't "has opened a blank note to compose a reply to you" notifications.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@SonicWizard It's for meditation purposes

Sonic Wizard

You know, in case I have to type up a broken-apart message, I don't have to say at the beginning "wait a second".

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

You could write a userscript to fill it with kitten gifs

Sonic Wizard

8:38 PM

...for me to finish before you respond.

user315433

I'd like to keep my keyboard activity to myself.

Sonic Wizard

I really don't like the above.

Shog9

if you reflect a bit on how you react to those indicators...

Sonic Wizard

See, it's broken up.

Shog9

...You see one, and you know you gotta either post quickly or wait, to avoid interrupting.
...Once you know they exist, you're sorta pressured into posting something, quickly, once you've started typing... since you know others are probably expecting something.
...There's more pressure to keep messages short and quick, rather than putting thought into them.
...Less chance of typing out a message, realizing it's a bad idea, and not posting.