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1:18 PM

probably this is something more fitting for the Linux rooms but....

^ this is the live iso for Linux Mint. Virtual machine, no network card installed so the machine has no way to connect to internet.

Please explain: why does the Update Manager on an unconnected live distro (notice: I have not yet installed the OS) show an available update?

John Dvorak

Perhaps it hitched a WiFi on the way home?

Derpy

@JohnDvorak How? The VM has no wi-fi card.

Shadow Wizard

This reminds me, I bought a desktop computer which can connect to WiFi. First time I use WiFi on a desktop computer, it was cool.

John Dvorak

Are you sure it's unconnected?

Derpy

Unless Hyper-V manager is giving out wrong info... yes, pretty sure there is no card.

John Dvorak

1:26 PM

Most likely it came preinstalled with the knowledge it's outdated from day 0

Derpy

Possible. That said, I did this test because a friend reported me this same behavior on his home install. He had a wifi card, so I run this test to check if the OS had connected to an unprotected wifi network without asking the user or if that update is shown even without a connection for some weird reason

Fun part.... he used Mint 18.3. I used the 18.2 iso... same behavior - so we have two different versions that " came preinstalled with the knowledge it's outdated from day 0"

BTW....

Probably I should have done this before even bothering doing a first hand test.

forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=251385

^same issue

Shadow Wizard

You found a bug in Linux? @Derpy

Derpy

@ShadowWizard not strictly a bug. More a "does anyone know if it is supposed to work this way" thing.

Shadow Wizard

Reminds of SE

Lots of such things we keep wondering if they're supposed to work this way or not. :D

e.g. bounty refunded upon deletion...

@Ano maybe the bounty is not refunded in case of a self delete, should be easy enough to test if you're willing to waste some rep. :)

Derpy

1:50 PM

@ShadowWizard now I wish bounties didn't had a cap.

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Derpy

Uncapped bounties would be so nice.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy such a cap?

Sensible Alexander

@Derpy 1M bounty by Skeet?

Shadow Wizard

lol

Derpy

2:00 PM

@SensibleAlexander give out a 10k bounty to your loyal subject so that he can mod the site during your vacation, get the rep back when you return

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy excellent plan!

Derpy

@ShadowWizard Homework: find out what character is somehow referenced in the picture

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy you?

Not much to work with, just a colorful unicorn head.

Derpy

@ShadowWizard there are some pretty specific colors there

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy Gem Blossom?

Derpy

2:40 PM

@ShadowWizard to be fair, I was expecting a much simpler answer

Sensible Alexander

derp ._0

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iDebug

4:03 PM

!!/blame᠎

SmokeDetector

@iDebug It's Jeff Atwood's fault.

iDebug

This is a small advertisement on my very first userscript.

!!/blame᠎ ‌‌‍

SmokeDetector

@iDebug It's Shog9's fault.

iDebug

flee before I'm suspended

bjb568

4:55 PM

MIT
Michigan
UC Berkeley
UCLA
Duke
Princeton
Northwestern
WashU
Carnegie Mellon
Cornell
Chicago
Johns Hopkins
Stanford

user315433

-1 not alphabetized

Catija

Also, MIT was on the first list... so I think you're still missing one.

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user315433

@Catija Applying twice, double the chance.

user315433

5:10 PM

Unless they have sock-puppet detectors.

canon

@Derpy virtual diskette? Best kind, imo.

user315433

@Feeds Isn't Developer Story yet on the scrap pile of bad ideas that got greenlit when money were abundant?

canon

it's probably about vetting candidates for job applications

so they can make their service more attractive

sure, it's a derpy feature to us... but we're not the ones paying for it

user315433

I was just wondering why it isn't quietly forgotten.

canon

monetize all the things™

user315433

5:16 PM

If mixing "read a book" with "worked at Google" and "wrote a blogpost" makes a monetizable product... Such columns, much CSS.

user315433

Anyway, a million dollars isn't cool. Circles are.

user315433

I admit those are cool circles.

Catija

5:37 PM

@if.... Whose circles are those?

Jon Ericson

@Catija Dev Story circles.

Catija

@JonEricson Ah. That would explain why I've never seen them HAHAHA

user315433

From my DS (which is hidden and all, but it still tracks the circles)

Catija

@if.... Have you ever been to one of the SciPy conferences?

user315433

No... I'm not a SciPy developer. Tried to contribute once, but... I can't deal with compiling and linking all that C and Fortran stuff.

Catija

5:53 PM

Scipy is for users, not devs.

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Jake Symons

6:54 PM

Why do we flag duplicates of duplicates?

For example in this question was flagged as a duplicate of this which was flagged as a duplicate of this

Ano

Q: Do not refund bounty on question deletion if reputation would be kept on an awarded answer

According to this post and its status-bydesign tag, if a question where someone offered and awarded a bounty is deleted, the bounty is refunded back to the bounty owner. In most cases, this isn't much of a problem - either there was no awarded answer, or the bounty awardee loses their award. Tod...

user315433

in a current model, duplication is not required to be exact; as a result, duplicate-of is not a transitive property => proposed re-mapping could do more harm than good — gnat Oct 7 '13 at 11:12

user315433

Simply put: it's possible that A is a marked a duplicate of B, and the new question C is more like A than like B.

Jake Symons

@if.... Thanks. that helps a lot

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7:44 PM

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Optimus Prime

9:16 PM

And the members call it as official group

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10:54 PM

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11:31 PM

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user315433

11:45 PM

New job ad: Windows / Azure Site Reliability Engineer

user315433

Joe finally got himself a diamond on Meta.

Shog9

176

Q: Avoid the Streisand Effect - be clear about the reason when suspending an account

This sort of thing has happened a few times now... "Hey, did you see? User X was boxed!" "User X? Why?" "I donno... Maybe he... " (wild speculation ensues. waffles are blamed.) It's generally quite easy to notice when a user gets thrown in The Penalty Box. You see the tell-tale 1 when...

feature-request status-completed account-suspension

user315433

> I expect Channels will take another crack at it.

user315433

I thought the idea was to prevent Channels from becoming surrogate sub-communities...

user315433

Like, JS room folks deciding they will hang out in JS channel and ignore the unwashed masses.

Ano

11:56 PM

@Shog9 Two things: one, that doesn't answer my question as to whether the public reason matches the moderator message template. Two, there are more suspension reasons than those in the top answer ("rule violations" and "plagiarism"); can that be updated?

Shog9

@if.... well, that might happen too... I meant more along the lines of helping folks find stuff. Like, on the site. Because there's no Google indexing your private Channels Q&A.

I really feel like that's gonna make or break the project; I've used plenty of enterprisy knowledge management systems, and they all suck at letting you find stuff.

I've seriously gotten emails that contain like... A 10-step instructions sheet for getting to somewhere in Sharepoint.