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user202362

4:03 AM

Last night, a big possum came into the porch/sun room area & knocked a solid wooden chair over ...

Sensible Alexander

It didn't oppose?

user202362

4:18 AM

it? the chair or the possum?

user202362

the possum in the backyard is gigantic in normal possum's standard

user202362

probably from stolen food

Sensible Alexander

5:17 AM

Seeing this meta post on IPS about deleted posts due to the account deletion, I thought it's related to this user. Apparently I was wrong!?

2 days ago, by Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

@Catija you're a moderator on IPS, can you maybe check out this user? He joined 9 days ago, just to post two questions which tell "catchy" stories that attracts lots of sympathy. There are some holes, e.g. in the first he says he moved 18 months ago, yet in the second he says he's working in same place for 4.5 years, and doesn't even mention having a girlfriend which is a big factor in that case. [cont...]

Catija

@SensibleAlexander Huh?

IPS has like... four trolls right now.

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

8:13 AM

@SensibleAlexander why related?

@Catija oh. Yup, I "found" only one. Was that HIV question HNQ too?

Catija

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard Maybe? Not sure. Might have been closed before it hit the HNQ.

rene

@Catija rename the site to trolls.se and call it a day?

Catija

@rene Pretty sure Robert would refuse to do so....

rene

→ 42 messages moved to Chimney

Catija

And now I'm going to sleep.

rene

8:15 AM

@Catija good night!

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

@rene Trolls with Social Problems

Catija

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard Redundant.

rene

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard too long

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

lol

@rene TSP.SE

rene

:p

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

9:45 AM

> Just a friendly 32 year old mother of three trying to make a living as a belly button model.

umm....

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

@JourneymanGeek yeah, HNQ author on Parenting.

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Q: How to get my daughter's fixation on my belly button under control?

I don't know where to begin with this question. It's awkward and to be honest, it makes me feel rather uncomfortable. Simply put, I'm led to believe that my four year old daughter is obsessed with my belly button. It all started one day during the summer when she was three. I decided to take my f...

Sensible Alexander

I want to delete this question but every time i try, Stack Exchange says "this question can't be deleted because users spent time and effort answering this question" — Allison 10 hours ago

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

smells like yet another troll (i.e. making up a story on purpose) but... who knows

Journeyman Geek

not quite what I tend to expect when I pop in on vacation ;p

looking at her other question...

smells trolly

flagged

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

9:55 AM

@JourneymanGeek yup. My bet is someone (male) with belly button fetish.

Sensible Alexander

Plot twist: the 4-year old daughter wrote that question

Journeyman Geek

Also just noticed SO's looking for a new VP of marketing, and is down another dev 0_0

darn it, stuff shouldn't happen when I have crap internet

user202362

maybe said dev became a belly button model, with that said, I have no idea who's the said dev

user202362

hopefully it's not a dev who reads this chat

Journeyman Geek

naw

not someone I've interacted with

user202362

10:02 AM

maybe unicorn should be a symbol for good sales person ...

user202362

I think I wouldn't be actively outdoors for a while - still having a small fist sized bruise on my arm from sailing a couple of days ago

Journeyman Geek

0_0

did you fight off pirates?

user202362

have been violated by a sailing boat

user202362

10:17 AM

those ropes, pretty harsh on the flesh

Journeyman Geek

erm. OK!

user202362

especially when the wind is strong & you are on a bumpy sea

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

10:47 AM

@TelautonomousKitty fist sized bruise can't be "small", unless either 1) your fist is REALLY small, or 2) Your arm is REALLY big

@JourneymanGeek well it's not new they now need more marketing than development... probably a leftover from the big wave.

@SensibleAlexander that would be highly disturbing... o_o

That said, my own kids also love to play with my belly button when I let them... usually it's just a game of "hit daddy while you can" though. lol

Sensible Alexander

Market-driven development.

Talking about belly-button.......... I don't remember anyone's belly button except myself -_-

OH! I remember some: my puppies'

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Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

11:25 AM

@SensibleAlexander well that's totally normal, lol... I also "remember" only my own, i.e. can tell the shape and look. I've seen lots during my life (friends, army, girlfriends, etc) but can't tell how even one looks like. That's something I don't really put much thought into. :D

And here is @Yve, in the middle of belly button discussion! :P

user310756

user202362

lol :p

user310756

@TelautonomousKitty chicken says hi

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

@YvetteColomb konami code?

2

user310756

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard can't stay, wasting time avoiding study, I stood up @tel today already because of study. @tel I went there around 5.30pm and it rained when I got there and stopped. It was raining on and off for a while, so not the best day for it. See you tomoz!

user310756

11:28 AM

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard ?? what

user202362

kk

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

@YvetteColomb you missed the whole Chicken of Winter Bash fun?? :(

user310756

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard too busy :[

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

Would be cool to have real chicken act upon giving it Konami code. :D

@YvetteColomb you're always too busy! :-{

user310756

11:36 AM

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I know - it's true - I'm really tired :[

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

@YvetteColomb Chicken Horse?

M.A.R.

I see you use the words very urgent. Please read Under what circumstances may I add “urgent” or other similar phrases to my question, in order to obtain faster answers? - the summary is that this is not an ideal way to address volunteers, and is probably counterproductive to obtaining answers. Please refrain from adding this to your questions. — rene 14 hours ago

alexolut

2

M.A.R.

Yes it is. @rene what other use do you have for random people on the internet other than following orders?

alexolut

Blame rounding

M.A.R.

11:48 AM

@alexolut An eye for an eye, a message for a message. You interrupted me, and I interrupted you

EN GARDE

rene

@M.A.R. sure, right ... carries on

M.A.R.

@rene pls rply to my above messege urgant

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

@alexolut whaat? No "m"?

1m

submitting angry bug report

rene

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard hammers it against 4 duplicates ....

M.A.R.

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard -1 not enough WW2 references

rene

11:51 AM

@M.A.R. u r urgant urslf

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

@M.A.R. pregnant?

M.A.R.

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard Who? Rene? I don't think so

He sounds male

@rene I would have a response but I don't

So I just pretend you're not worth my time

Oh hold on, I have one: "u r urgant urslf urslf"

Oh yeah. Try beating that

So, what's up folks?

Sorry I denized Tavern for a second

user202362

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard or that time of the month

user202362

they don't call it menstruation for no reasons

M.A.R.

I like where this is headed

But I guess rene-type flowers are mostly bisexual

rene

11:56 AM

I'm accused of what?

M.A.R.

Being urgant

rene

very

alexolut

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard portugueses already have “mil”

Looks weird for me ... I interpreted “mil” as million

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

lol

user202362

mil could stand for milli

M.A.R.

11:59 AM

The Green Mil?

user202362

250 milli-reps is like a quarter of a rep

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

@alexolut collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/portuguese-english/mil

M.A.R.

@TelautonomousKitty That's the recommended dosage for patients who get downvotes on meta.SE

More technically, suffering losselosis

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

@TelautonomousKitty yup, in our case blood flows up to our heads and we become grumpy and angry. :D

user202362

rep scale could be logarithmic ...

user202362

12:01 PM

there could be 1 rep, 0.1 rep, 0.0001 rep

user202362

text size are adjusted accordingly ...

alexolut

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I know... but knowing is not same as feeling

Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

:)

What's this in Russian?

M.A.R.

@TelautonomousKitty Or it could tell you you earned 0.0000000000000000000000000001E29 rep today

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

1:59 PM

@alexolut Find any new bugs lately?

alexolut

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog yep

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@alexolut That's my bug

And of anyone else's if they click it. How self-centered.

alexolut

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog fixed

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Nog Shine

User was able to answer a question just after (38 seconds) the question is closed. Does that count? @SonictheAnonymousHedgehog

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

2:07 PM

@NogShine Nope. See the last section of the answer to meta.stackexchange.com/questions/10582/…

Nog Shine

Oh! Thanks.

and there is a bug where the system reversed the serial voting but it shown as unupvote rather than voting corrected. Does that count?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@NogShine Was it a single vote? If so, it's likely it didn't trigger the script, but was manually retracted.

Nog Shine

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Nope. A rep of 140. Means at least 14 votes.

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A: Is serial unupvoting allowed and not detected by system?

Serial unupvoting is not detected by the system. It is **against the rules* because it is targetted on a user not the content. The system only identifies serial upvoting and downvoting. To quote relevant post Are unupvotes serial voting? The votes are un-upvotes, but they are voting behavio...

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@NogShine If it's that, post a new question on the per-site meta.

My guess is that it happens rarely enough that they didn't put it in the script.

Just like how @alexolut once mass-unaccepted answers

Nog Shine

Similar thing happened on IPS too.

In mid-november.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

2:14 PM

It should raise an autoflag in my opinion.

SmokeDetector

2:47 PM

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user310756

3:06 PM

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard you're a goose ;)

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Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard

3:46 PM

@YvetteColomb oh, thanks!

SmokeDetector

4:02 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, blacklisted user: Payment not received by Melv on bitcoin.SE

Sensible Alexander

FR: answer cooldown after one of the answer deleted by spam flag

@SensibleAlexander welp, not gonna work, since the answer hasn't been deleted -_-

Instead, FR: answer cooldown after the user receives 5 cumulative spam flags from any answers.

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SmokeDetector

4:41 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: How can I plot 5-dimensional data graphically? by rimanguz on math.SE

Abyx

4:59 PM

hi

"Remember: Only flag things that are truly inappropriate or offensive." => Well, apparently the Stack Exchange team disagrees: i.stack.imgur.com/a9UVC.png -- ("See something that makes you uneasy? Don't hesitate to flag it!") — That Brazilian Guy Mar 7 '16 at 22:50

could someone elaborate this ^

should we follow what's written on the popup or what's in that meta answer?

Sensible Alexander

It... depends on the room culture...

Some rooms are really lax about "something offensive"

John Dvorak

most notably the C++ lounge

Abyx

cc: @bluefeet ^

Sensible Alexander

We usually warn those who post something that might be inappropriate gently first, something like "I don't think that post is appropriate here"...

Depending on the outcome, the poster might acknowledge, and even delete the post within the 2-min.

Abyx

@SensibleAlexander who are "we"? do you mean - in this particular room?

but anyways, it's more about users flagging things

the meta answer says "Remember: Only flag things that ...", and the chat itself says "flag whatever makes you uneasy"

which rule is to be followed? should we tell the newcomers - "please read this meta post, it says not to flag things"? or should we tell'em - flag is a feature, press it

user315433

5:13 PM

@Abyx Luckily for her, bluefeet is now on Engineering team and no longer has to deal with chat dramas.

Sensible Alexander

Welp, as far as my experience in this room, we never tell about chat flag to newcomers...

Abyx

@if.... welp. She could fix the popup then.

Sensible Alexander

But I believe the answer is the same to comment flag.

Abyx

@SensibleAlexander the popup tells

user315433

My flagging rules: (1) Flag what the heck you want to. (2) Don't complain about declined flags or suspensions.

Abyx

5:15 PM

that's very remarkable

however I still want some official answer from mods, @Shog9, perhaps?

Sensible Alexander

the problem is, anyone with enough rep (10k?) will see and be notified by the chat flag, so it can even be dismissed by someone not RO/mod.

Abyx

@SensibleAlexander only mod can (instantly) dismiss, not RO

Sensible Alexander

There are 2 kinds of chat flag: spam/offensive and mod. AFAIK, the S/O flag can be dismissed by anyone with enough rep.

(I guess discussing about SE policy while being very sleepy is not a good idea... good night!)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

6:06 PM

@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I see what you mean, and am also getting the intention that he's trolling. As the post ban thresholds are much harder to trigger on meta (due to voting being used to indicate dis/agreement as well as quality), I've flagged one of their posts asking that they be suspended.

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Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

6:34 PM

@SensibleAlexander If I were a new user, I'd discover it immediately because I'd start exploring

Abyx

7:32 PM

What was the (unlisted) link to the timeline of a question?

nvm, /posts/id/timeline

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8:29 PM

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