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11:01 AM

@Magisch just saw the last chapter of that Kaspersky "scandal" (link) and this is getting even more ridiculous than before.

Namahage (生剥) in traditional Japanese folklore is a demonlike being, portrayed by men wearing hefty ogre masks and traditional straw capes (mino) during a New Year's ritual of the Oga Peninsula area of Akita Prefecture in northern Honshū, Japan. The frightfully dressed men, armed with deba knives (albeit wooden fakes or made of papier-mâché) and toting a teoke (手桶, "hand pail" made of wood), march in pairs or threes going door-to-door making rounds of people's homes, admonishing children who may be guilty of laziness or bad behavior, yelling phrases like "Are there any crybabies around?" (泣く子はいねがぁ...

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@JourneymanGeek do you realize that neither answer will get any vote :P?

Journeyman Geek

@Derpy still, its the principle of the thing ;p

You kinda pointed me at the right direction, but I was like "wait, opera? I'll try installing it!"

@JourneymanGeek So what should I do now -_-

Journeyman Geek

@M4HdYaR well, there's very good advice on meta...

11:06 AM

@JourneymanGeek "no, thanks"

BTW.

> meta.stackexchange.com/users/377597/…

Journeyman Geek

@M4HdYaR I'd start here meta.stackexchange.com/questions/86997/…

now we get "spa" spam in other languages too.

@JourneymanGeek I already read it . When the question is wrong at all How I can edit it to get upvotes ? I can't delete it too so what ?

I miss today's Chicken's emoji of the day...

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@M4HdYaR presumably try to post good answers, do good edits, and try to learn how to ask better questions before that 6 month or so "grace question" you get.

11:09 AM

@JourneymanGeek Ok thanks!

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Also, your question lacks a lot of motivation (and you should never comment your own question, but just edit it). Do you need a quick&dirty solution for internal benchmarking purposes, or is it more serious. Do you care about heisenbugs or deficiencies ? Probably adding what you want will alter your benchmarking.... — Basile Starynkevitch Nov 22 at 11:53

Feels like good advice.

I disagree on "you should never comment" personally

Well, "never" is a strong word, but in general he's right that whatever relevant info you can add to the question, just add it to the question

!!/coffeetea

@AndrewT. No such command 'coffeetea'.

11:40 AM

@Derpy So if I'm reading this correctly, and I'm inclined to believe kaspersky on this one - there was a guy who worked for the NSA equation group who a) took code home, b) had piss poor security on his pc, c) tried (and failed) to get cracked windows and word installs

That is some epic stupidity manifesting at once.

Also this: Adding the user’s apparent need for cracked versions of Windows and Office, poor security practices, and improper handling of what appeared to be classified materials, it is possible that the user could have leaked information to many hands.

throwing serious shade

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Journeyman Geek

"I'm inclined to believe kaspersky on this one" ._.

Everyone involved is probably rotten ;p

11:57 AM

@Magisch That is my point. Even if there have been abuses on Kaspersky end ("oh, nice, free classified info. Save it for further review") if that is the original way they acquired it.....

Congratulation to whoever though office-crack + classified doc was a good combination.

12:19 PM

@JourneymanGeek totally possible, but it doesn't really make me trust any specific antivirus vendor to be really different from the others.

We need open source antivirus :)

Journeyman Geek

@Chicken clamav's open source

yeah but it's not very good (afaik)

Journeyman Geek

@Derpy the stupid thing is its probably trivial to get windows and office, especially through your employer

or at least crack it properly, n00b

@JourneymanGeek I would think they have the money to buy the license and probably the position to get it free if they asked.

Journeyman Geek

12:29 PM

yup

anyway, found another little gem

there was a time when I knew Win98 serial by heart, because I screwed up my install so often

washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/…

"cracking" was easy then :p

at this point, while I continue to say that Kaspersky giving out info to gov agencies is totally possible (like it is for every antivirus out there) the Washington post news do indeed seem like propaganda.

Journeyman Geek

12:30 PM

@Chicken eh, isn't that hard these days either

@Derpy I wouldn't even blame them

Maybe I miss the outrageous part of the news, but how is this last one different from a telephone operator cooperating with government taskforce in a anti-terrorism wiretapping operation?

Assume you're an antivirus company and you get hands on some of the most sophisticated hacking tools from a state actor

Of course that's interesting to you and you never signed an NDA to not look at it

Whatever blame is in this entire affair is squarely on the one guy that both flagrantly violated data protection protocols and was at the same time dumb enough to fall for a hacked office crack

like seriously

By which I mean: why should I be worried that a [Insert-State ] antivirus vendor co-operated with [Insert-state] government in order to catch cyber-criminals that already stole a lot of money? My first reaction is more of a "Nice, they got those bad guys" that "ARGH! They co-operated with the good-guys-hunting-criminals"

sleepy...

12:36 PM

(notice: talking about the new link, not the original one)

@Derpy I assume the wapo is equally concerned about american antivirus companies cooperating with the FBI?

Because if they aren't that is some strong anti russian propaganda they're spinning

of course the internet equivalent of what is essentially a private detective agency is cooperating with the government on matters of finding criminals - it would be immoral if they wouldn't

@Magisch What I meant.... When a police department is working to stop some serious terrorism act, every one expect them to be able to require support from third parties.

They need to monitor a telephone line? Ask the Telephone Company.
Check money payments? Ask the bank.
ect

so.... need to check some guys that stole money with ransomware and malware? Ask an antivirus company for support.

seems a pretty logical thing to do, and actually a desirable one.

The only bad thing I could see in this if they were using force/threat to require support

(In which case the bad ones would still be the ones using force, not the ones coerced in collaboration).

12:52 PM

Can I please get feedback on this edit here? It'll take me some time before I get used to having my edits applied directly. meta.stackexchange.com/posts/19757/revisions

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@gparyani don't worry, your edit was only applied instantly because it's a Community Wiki post so anyone can edit. Your edit will be seen by others (due to the question being bumped to the front page), and if it made the post worse, someone will revert it.

@Chicken I'm not worried about anything. I was actually asking for constructive feedback. I knew going in that it was a CW post, and if I wanted it reviewed I would have opened a private session and edited anonymously.

Ok, so what kind of feedback are you looking for?

1:12 PM

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so, Mad Hatter is awarded for 5 no-comment edit?

so, like, five edits without filling the "what changed" field?

not edit summary, just don't comment on the post

1:30 PM

thanks, spared me a question. I was going to ask if re-editing the question during the grace period would kill the counter (since the system already added the auto comment)

Anyway, finally got the one hat I wanted.

and since we are talking hats.... Brunhilde is 150 total or 150 on each site?

Didn't even try for that, but I guess 150 total...

though I think this year's Bash is harder, so...

Chicken.

1:45 PM

@AndrewT. so, either is 150 each or meta.stackexchange is also excluded from the count.

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I should be getting Brunhilde unless MSE is excluded

same here

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(cause I've been averaging over 150 on MSE)

FAQ says "other than SO"

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1:46 PM

SO not SE

meta.stackexchange != stackoverflow

Journeyman Geek

"earn 150 reputation points on three different sites (not including Stack Overflow) within 15 days."

so MSE and something else and something else

@JourneymanGeek unless poor wording and MSE is excluded too.

> ... but there is one hat (Brunhilde) that requires participation on Stack Exchange sites other than Stack Overflow.

That's what the FAQ says

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@Derpy more than 150 once each on 3 different sites

If the description says so, then I think Geek's right

ugh, I agree the wording is bad though

Journeyman Geek

1:50 PM

the wording on the hat itself is clearer than the hat gallery IMO

First time I thought you need to do that for 15 days

Second time (just now), I thought you need to earn 150 on 3 different sites in a single day

Journeyman Geek

lol no

I think I overestimate the hat difficulty...

except... glare at the star wall

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CHICKEN!

Chicken's not hard tho. Chicken is maddeningly mysterious ;p

@JourneymanGeek show me one user whi a "Chicken" hat and I will listen to the rest of your story...

1:56 PM

Well, currently the most hats a user has are 23... out of 38

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@Derpy If its even a hat

minus 1 because one certain hat needs 10 days, 37...

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But if it dosen't exist, it isn't hard. Its impossible

who said 38 is the total in the first place?

minisite.js

2:06 PM

weird.

so, you are suggesting there are 15 secret hats and only 5 were found??

), WinterBash.hats.setHats({
"1": {
    "bx": 384,
    "by": 528,
    "dx": 0,
    "dy": 0,
    "s": 78,
    "w": 644,
    "h": 420,
    "c": [135, 83, 110, 98]
},
"10": {
    "bx": 384,
    "by": 123,
    "dx": 0,
    "dy": 101,
    "s": 64,
    "w": 423,
    "h": 642,
    "im": '<svg>',
    "c": [20, 20, 60, 194],
    "tt": "Too Cool"
},

"37": {
    "bx": 384,
    "by": 438,
    "dx": 0,
    "dy": 0,
    "s": 54,
    "w": 669,
    "h": 378,
    "im": '<svg>',
    "c": [200, 83, 201, 85],
    "tt": "Extra Toppings"
},
"38": {
    "bx": 384,
    "by": 528,
    "dx": 0,
    "dy": 0,
    "s": 59,
    "w": 515,
    "h": 571,
    "c": [100, 229, 75, 57]
},
"4": {
    "bx": 384,
    "by": 311,
    "dx": 0,
    "dy": 0,
    "s": 113,
    "w": 417,
    "h": 646,
    "im": '<svg>',
    "c": [87, 87, 110, 108],
    "tt": "The Mad Hatter"
},

yep, I noticed

I'm afraid so...

Somehow, I doubt those number are a clue. Probably random noise added to troll us.

But you know, I still wish hats were made by someone from Puzzling.

2:36 PM

I've got a strange bug, someone was able to suggest a zero-char edit: aviation.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/29177 anyone knows if it is known? [please do not comment on the person that accepted the edit, we mods are going to take care of it]

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user image

would using the sticks for the orange bars in the SO logo be too large?

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@Unihedron I think a certain charming chibiness would be fine

yeah I think I'll cut them into halves

I'm already putting way more work than the 3 existing submissions lol :D

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lol

2:43 PM

so, I'm going with a pentagon and five sections because that fits my head perfectly. I'll make 5 site icons (SO being one of them) and put one on each side

this gonna be dope

@Federico That looks weird. Maybe suggested edits on tag wiki excerpts are not intended to be held to the same standards as other suggested edits? I've not dealt with tag wikis much.

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3:06 PM

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3:50 PM

user image

7

:o

I wonder if there's a chicken hidden on some page

YESSSS!!! Got it!

Journeyman Geek

Oh?

That looks a LOT like the banner

but I don't see it

user image

Journeyman Geek

you monster

4:01 PM

red hand drawn Chicken

Journeyman Geek

that's roughly where I think it should be tho

the new fashion trend. Red hand drawn circles are so last season.

3 hours ago, by gparyani

Can I please get feedback on this edit here? It'll take me some time before I get used to having my edits applied directly. https://meta.stackexchange.com/posts/19757/revisions

@JourneymanGeek

Note that I made another edit after that message; I'd like feedback on both.

I don't know... the blurry one doesn't seem to have a window quite like that?

4:16 PM

@Catija I have been thinking about that, but I can't find where that blurry image was taken from.

Journeyman Geek

looks like near the hill

Invert it? The chicken here is white with a black background.

Journeyman Geek

the slope of the hill matches

Maybe the fuzziness just kills off the lower windows?

Because we see the lower windows as windows but they're actually obscured by the background slope.

@JourneymanGeek But only if you ignore that background hill, actually...

@Chicken please pin thisssssssssssss BECAUSE CHICKEN IS A SERIOUS BUSINESS

4:22 PM

We ran out of pins...

Can't we unpin the current ones and link to the messages from the MSE question?

"We" can't... no. Only ROs or a diamond can.

stares at @JourneymanGeek

But, why was the chicken outside in the middle of the winter..?

because it had to cross the road

It was hiding from the hungry farmer?

4:26 PM

the chicken is slightly rotated, I think

but I don't have any software handy to fix it

anyway, unrelated to the chicken, I just realized featured makes the question get into "Frequently Asked" on the main page

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@Catija wait... what you said? ignore the hill?

@Derpy So.. there are two hills... the foreground hill in front of the houses... and the background hill behind them? The background hill's slope is more flat than the slope in the image the chicken posted.

Um... is the slope changing as snow falls?

user image

@Catija I think it might be, the background hill doesn't intersect the windows in questions on my monitor anymore, though it used to.

user image

So... what does that mean? Is it slowly over time or is it just different background images?

Oh, wait... maybe it's just screen width? The buildings are a lot farther apart for you...

4:37 PM

The images are separated into 3 images: left, center, right. They just follow the size of the window

user image

did you just get the Chicken hat @Derpy ?

or are you trolling again 😞

@Chicken Telkitty seems pretty busy, so someone else has to do it :P

Telkitty is making the physical chicken hat, so don't disturb...

@JonEricson is here! quick! ~~Annoy~~ ask him about the Chicken!

4:46 PM

cluck

5:08 PM

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5:27 PM

Am I imagining things, or is the inbox notification on SO a darker red today?

Someone was talking about the review bubble being darker yesterday... not sure about the rest of them.

@Chicken You are not imagining things. I only noticed because I was on the call yesterday when the designer asked if he could standardize on one red. ;-)

5:41 PM

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6:05 PM

@JonEricson I wondered that all day and chalked it up to my work monitor being messed up :(((

My theory on cheese moving is that we need to do a lot more of it in smaller increments. What's a little insanity among friends after all.

user315433

6:47 PM

Seasonal icon colors, as I proposed earlier.

user315433

Nov 28 at 21:27, by 6' white male

If the design team can produce 12 review-looking icons, rotating them according to months of the year might keep up the clicks on Review. And maybe include seasonal colors in the buttons, even if it makes Antipodes unhappy.

user345817

7:01 PM

what did i just walk into

a chat room

A chicken?

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8:07 PM

@JonEricson I'm actually a fan of this concept... I think that people may be more accepting of small changes gradually than of big ones quickly.

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8:43 PM

ugh

my hat made out of popsicle sticks is falling apart

send help

sends elmers glue

9:02 PM

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user315433

9:25 PM

Paul Simon Track 3 - Everything Put Together Falls Apart

10:20 PM

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10:38 PM

Has someone here heard of Singularity NET?

10:59 PM

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user202362

11:26 PM

@Magisch sounds like a blackhole

11:49 PM

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Questions that have spoilers should be ineligible for the HNQ list.

user315433

Eh. They all die at the end.

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