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Catija

12:09 AM

@6'whitemale Such an excited unicorn!

user315433

12:25 AM

Yes, there was some speculation on meta concerning what was actually on the screen in front of the unicorn.

user315433

Apparently, deleted.

Catija

Oh, I figured that the "you have 75 unicoins" was the content of the screen :P

ɥʇǝS

The NSA Is Coming to Town

►

Journeyman Geek

12:59 AM

moorning.

user315433

Solution to question quality problems: break the Ask button

user315433

1:11 AM

insurance spam also reported on jaSO meta

user315433

Should be tagged "spam" but no suggested edits. :/

user315433

For future reference: 2017-12-11, Startups closure, will be the first public beta closed since Arabic Language (which closed in September 2015).

user202362

Why? Don’t we need more Snapchat style ‘useful’ startups to rid people of their excess $? </sarcasm>

user315433

This also means that Nick Wilde♦, last seen August 2015, keeps his diamond until the bitter end.

Journeyman Geek

@Telkitty #trollstartup

user315433

1:24 AM

Guess I should onebox the post, even if it's old news, because it will be gone with the site...

user315433

3

Q: Startups Stack Exchange will be closing on December 11th

3 years ago, this site made it into public beta, as announced here. It was not without some level of trepidation - Startups had previously been on the network and resulted in closure due to the lack of any remaining moderation hands on the site resulting in its quality dropping. So it was stated ...

user315433

How cruel to close them before Winterbash even begins...

user315433

On the plus side, they beat the record previously held by Startups v1, which was closed after 1176 days in beta. Version 2 will get to 1230 days, as the new longest-lived closed site.

user315433

Someone made an effort to use the contents of Startups v1, seeding a non-SE site Bright Journey. They went as far as cracking Gravatar hash to send out emails to users... By now it's in no better shape than Startups v2, though.

user315433

Iota is doing well so far, 108 questions already.

user315433

1:38 AM

With quite a few neologisms like "trytes". :/

Journeyman Geek

I am kinda wondering where's the point of diminishing returns

as far as sites go

user315433

One Quora should be enough for everyone.

user202362

@JourneymanGeek The more site there are on SE, the less value each additional site will bring

user315433

Complete list of sites launched in 2016-2017 that get more than 5 questions per day: Ethereum (37.3 QPD), Sitecore (6.7 QPD), IPS (6.0 QPD).

Journeyman Geek

@6'whitemale as opposed to a single crypto site, with tags per currency

user315433

1:52 AM

Or a single CMS site, with tags per CMS.

Journeyman Geek

I suspect that would be a hard sell tho

user315433

But... where can I ask questions about building sites with Wagtail? (Not entirely hypothetical, if the 6' University migrates to it in near future.)

user315433

Proposing a site on Area 51 isn't likely to be fruitful.

user315433

There once was a proposal for a django CMS site, but that's a different CMS, even though Wagtail is also in django. And even that one was deleted.

user315433

A classic proposal from the past: Owls (Strigiformes).

user315433

2:11 AM

Owls were found to be a subset of Birds, which were a subset of Wildlife, and none of which ever launched, arguably being a subset of The Great Outdoors, which isn't doing so great either.

Andrew T.

2:23 AM

Morning....

Or not, that is the question.

We need to propose a new site: Support.SE so that we can accept 3rd-party company support/customer service question 🤔

Perhaps also 42.SE

Shadow Wizard

6:19 AM

@balpha would be super cool if chat code replace $TIME_OF_DAY with actual time of day... ;)

rene

7:40 AM

→ 20 messages moved to Chimney

Magisch

8:05 AM

@6'whitemale \o/ for IPS

Nog Shine

8:26 AM

@6'whitemale Out of 6 questions, 3 hit the HNQ

Shadow Wizard

@AndrewT. and pay for this with Unicoins?

Andrew T.

8:51 AM

Maybe

rene

9:43 AM

cv-pls Просьба прислать meta.stackexchange.com/q/303915

Andrew T.

10:48 AM

Today is a holiday.... Traffic jam everywhere 😑

user202362

2:00 PM

0

Q: Winter bash 2017 counting down page - what's with the fence?

Winter bash 2017 counting down page is pretty nice ... but I have noticed something rather odd: See how every other vertical pole has been pretty much evenly spaced out, every pole except the one near the tree in the red circle? What happened to the missing pole?

discussion

rene

2:17 PM

Is that the best trolling you can do?

user202362

I can do better, but that requires effort

rene

→ 6 messages moved to Chimney

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Are Amitabha and Sakyamuni the same? by Hoa Sen Phat on buddhism.SE

alexolut

2:45 PM

Is there any page where I can see close votes that are burned out due to timeout?

@rene at first sight I thought you started to learn Russian :)

tripleee

@alexolut I vaguely seem to remember there was a SEDE query but obviously that is not exactly real-time

rene

@alexolut No, don't worry. I only wanted to show off my copy-paste skills ;)

alexolut

@rene Good. Because I will not tolerate Russian-speaking competitors on MSE ;)

rene

3:00 PM

Если ты так говоришь ...

SmokeDetector

3:43 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in body: Unity C# programmer requirement for PC platformer by GroundPound Games on gamedev.SE

Feeds

4:00 PM

The symbol for degrees Felsius is an average of the Euro symbol (â¬) and the Greek lunate epislon (Ïµ).

alexolut

4:18 PM

rene

4:36 PM

\o

Stijn

So @TimPost, you were saying something about crayons? :)

user315433

> 15 million programming questions on @StackOverflow! stackoverflow.com/questions -- Bill the Lizard at 7:56 AM - 1 Dec 2017

user315433

^ possibly related?

user315433

Previous swag contest was about 10M.

user315433

Reaching 20M answers goes unnoticed because there is no sidebar counter for those...

user315433

5:01 PM

-1

Q: How to be an entrepreneur?

I am thinking be an entrepreneur is a right for me. I have an Idea to make small bussnis but I dob't have a lot of money to star it. What should I do ?

lean-startup

user315433

I will not miss Startups...

user315433

BTW this still needs a flag or two

alexolut

5:23 PM

@rene this division by zero is weird

rene

Maybe I'm weird?

user315433

It's zero divided by something on the left.

user315433

Like in Matlab one solves a linear system A*x = b with x = A\b.

user315433

With matrices, the order of multiplication and division matters, so one has to be clear if it's divided on the right or on the left.

user315433

Someone broke filters again, I'm getting an unstyled exception at stackexchange.com/filters/249208/all-metas?page=1

user315433

5:27 PM

> Additionally, another exception occurred while executing the custom error page for the first exception.

user315433

Why don't I ever get "Additionally, a third exception occurred while executing the custom error page for the second exception.", and so on until Stack Overflow?

user315433

@Stijn In these dark times, it's probably a low budget swag contest. Participants draw swag with crayons; the swag they win is what they've drawn.

rene

@6'whitemale works for me?

user315433

I get error?aspxerrorpath=/filters/249208/all-metas either as logged in user, or in incognito window. But at least in the incognito mode I get the custom page with a panda.

rene

@6'whitemale no repro for me

user315433

5:43 PM

Works again now.

user315433

6:08 PM

-1

A: How to convert a numpy.array to binary?

Use a "while loop" instead of a "for loop". Python stores arrays in the same area of memory as it uses in "for loops". Often it confuses the addresses if you are using arrays in another function.

user315433

TIL how Python confuses arrays and for loops

Stijn

7:14 PM

I have a sudden desire for a top bar on chat

Bilow

Hello,
Every time I log in, my review queue icon appears red, but when clicking on it, this appears: "There are no review queues available to you". So what's the point of this useless notification? How can I stop it?

Stijn

@Bilow Hi. Let me see if there's an existing MSO post for that, there probably is.

user315433

@Bilow On what site is this happening?

Stijn

4

Q: Top bar “review needed red dot” showing, but there is nothing to review

I answered a couple of review questions wrong yesterday. So I am assuming that I have been banned for review for a few days. The red dot keeps been popping up asking me to review but there is nothing for me to review.

support review top-bar

Looks like you are review banned currently.

Bilow

lol ok. Didn't know. Wondering why

But I'm still having the red circle (notification) everyday, so this is a bug?

Jon Ericson

7:20 PM

@Bilow I don't see a review ban on your account. If you let me know which site, I might be able to track down the problem.

Bilow

I usually log in on stack overflow

Jon Ericson

@Bilow You don't have access to the close votes queue. That's the one that's normally triggering SO.

Bilow

@JonEricson Can I do something about it?

Jon Ericson

We need to fix this to work by privilege level. It's going to take a bit of dev work. :-(

Bilow

Okay, thanks for your help

This bug is happening for weeks

Should I do a post / a bug report, or is this problem known?

Jon Ericson

7:26 PM

It's on the schedule to be fixed in December.

Bilow

Nice. Thanks!

Jon Ericson

But, um, this is often a slow time of the year. :-(

SmokeDetector

8:23 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Alternatives of Bitcoin and Ethereum blockchain by After Ether on bitcoin.SE

rene

8:35 PM

@JonEricson I personally would have opted for the standard 6 to 8 weeks ... it is already December, you know ...

Not sure if that grammar works but you probably understand my Dunglish by now

Travis J

10:10 PM

once again, the happy hour notification startled me

user315433

I can't be very happy tonight because tomorrow is a thing that I'm supervising pretty much all day. :(

Travis J

Tomorrow I have to help a friend move =/

so fun

Catija

Tomorrow I'm having my step brother in law and his girlfriend over and we're going to play Guacamelee 2...

user315433

10:35 PM

So, who's going to review posts on Stack Exchange then?

Travis J

I wish people would be more focused on creating content than on reviewing content :(

user315433

Shrink, I want to review. I mean, I wanna, I wanna review. Review. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean review, Review, REVIEW, REVIEW. — Shog9 ♦ Aug 9 '14 at 0:33

Catija

People review posts on the weekend?

Shog9

it's always a hungover monday afternoon somewhere

Catija

Not on Saturday.

Shog9

10:40 PM

timezones are complicated.

Catija

Not that complicated.

Shog9

who's to say what's happening on Mars?

Catija

I wasn't aware that the internet generally or SE specifically reached Mars.

user315433

Some people work on Saturday, which ends up with them being online and bored.

Catija

Ah, so it's "Monday" in the "today's the first day of my workweek" sense rather than the official calendrical "Monday"?

Travis J

10:46 PM

Mars can get internet, it is just delayed 15 minutes.

ish

user315433

One only needs to patch some software with a few hexadecimal numbers.

Catija

4-24 minutes depending on if you want to trust Quora?

user315433

WA confidently says 18.3 minutes, which is probably average distance (but it doesn't say so).

Catija

Sure... but sometimes we're neighbors and other times the signal has to go through the Sun.

user315433

And it helpfully adds that the lag would be 27 minutes in Mars-Earth optical fiber.

Travis J

10:49 PM

Might as well be walking on it at that point.

Mazura

I've been having random icons replaced. this is known?

Catija

You know... in case you want to string a cable...

@Mazura Yep

Mazura

ok tx

Travis J

All is known in happy hour.

Anonymous

ipfs.io for all your interstellarly distributed networking needs.

Catija

10:50 PM

There have been easily a half dozen reports about it.

user315433

A wise man once said, "Do not meddle in the affairs of designers, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." But a plausible explanation here is that these are compiled via a process that's unable to identify which icon(s) are new. @Cai — Shog9 ♦ 3 hours ago

Catija

Also, I've heard that when they close down Startups... which I still find ironic... the same issue will happen.

user315433

@JeremyBanks Too close to IPS... I wonder what the extra F would mean in the site's name.

user315433

Startups fail all the time, it's perfectly normal for a site about them to do the same.

Catija

ouch.

@6'whitemale Obviously... Interpersonal Fighting Skills

It'd be a mashup of IPS and Martial Arts.

Travis J

10:55 PM

Would it feature rap battles between mods?

Catija

You really don't want me to participate in a rap battle.

Travis J

Too epic? Not enough epic?

Catija

Utter fail.

Travis J

Karaoke battles then?

Catija

I remember one time we were doing a search for free rappers... people who could listen to a water faucet drip and rap about leaves changing colors... or take traffic noise and rap about a car breaking down... it's not easy... we only found 1-2 people who could do it.

I could do karaoke... sure.

user315433

11:03 PM

> Ok twitter..... name for a Christian cryptocurrency. A few to get you started: ecclesiums, sacremints, lamentations, babels. GO -- Qui-Gon Benn at 1:55 PM - 1 Dec 2017

user315433

And then we end up merging Christianity and Bitcoin

Catija

There was a new one advertised on NPR last night... de something...

decred?

eventbrite.com/e/…

^ That's what they were "advertising"... it was weird.

user315433

Of course, it's in Austin.

Catija

I like Austin.

Is Austin a big deal in Cryptocurrencies or something?

user315433

"Keeping it weird"

Catija

11:12 PM

That's actually the chamber of commerce's campaign to get people to "shop local". :D

Also, "Don't mess with Texas" is an anti-littering campaign.

user315433

These things outgrow their original meaning.

Catija

I like to think that it just means the ad agencies did a really awesome job of making up a slogan...

Shog9

But did it actually help with litter?

Catija

11:27 PM

I think so.

It's a really old campaign. They have signs all over with the slogan and a logo.

From the Capitol Building in Austin:

Shog9

"$2000 fine" is also a good slogan. And, possibly, rapper name

user315433

Multiple trash bins remind me of those coffee shops that put out two competing tip jars (like "Tabs" and "Spaces", or whatever).

user315433

I haven't seen that idea used for trash bins, though.

Catija

I think they were photographed together like that for marketing purposes... I'm pretty sure they were placed apart from each other.

@Shog9 It has multiple readings... seems good.

Shog9

Guessing it makes slipping through the gate a bit less convenient

Catija

11:33 PM

They open the smaller gates on each side:

Shog9

pretty

lots of stone

I haven't watched Disney's animated "Robin Hood" since I was a kid, but apparently there's a lot more going on in it than I recall.

So... for your Friday enjoyment... Dancing furries

Catija

Yes... they sold a good chunk of the state off to pay for it.

It is a very beautiful building, though... inside and out.

@Shog9 That question has actually been... less problematic... than I thought it would be after the initial reactions.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer, link at end of answer: Proving a language is undecidable where a Turing Machine never enters its initial state again by Florence on cs.SE

Catija

The deleted comments on the question are ... interesting at least. I'm disappointed in that reaction but it's not exactly unexpected.

Shog9

Fortunately, I don't think most people take furries seriously.

Catija

11:48 PM

But, at least knowing that a CM has seen it answers the question "is the question OK" for the network.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Arithmetic network to compute floor of binary logarithm by Florence on cs.SE

Shog9

Eh... Whether it's ok or not depends on how it plays out

Catija

Well, not having people on MSE complaining about the words "pornography" and "furry" on the HNQ has been a win, anyway.

Shog9

If they become a problem, I'll just block the words.

Catija

Meaning that any titles containing them would be excluded from the HNQ?

Shog9

11:59 PM

Right

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