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1:37 AM

@ShadowWizard this is correct

@bwDraco you cooooould flag or take to meta in future ;p

user202362

2:18 AM

US wants stronger India economic, defense ties ... by moving more jobs to India? Thought Trump said 'American first' ...

user202362

Do some politicians always treat others as idiots?

Yes

bwDraco

I hate politics.

user315433

> ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓░░░ 80% -- Year Progress at 5:00 PM - 19 Oct 2017

user202362

2:42 AM

watching time getting away is never a good thing ...

ɥʇǝS

2:52 AM

@Telkitty Yes

@Telkitty As someone who has been sick all year, also yes.

user315433

> shorter of breath and one day closer to death

ɥʇǝS

@Telkitty I hear it's quite good.

user202362

@ɥʇǝS I saw some videos on youtube, they look delicious :p

user202362

and since they are everywhere in the ocean around here, I started to having dirty thoughts :x

Feeds

4:05 AM

If you want to evenly space them, it's easiest to alternate between the Arctic and Antarctic. Some people just go to the Arctic twice, near the equinoxes so the visits are almost 6 months apart, but it's not the same.

5:26 AM

@Telkitty only when they're sure of their power. Trump has nothing to worry about, he will be re-elected in the next elections, no matter what he'll do.

@ShadowWizard I want to disagree but the current state of the democratic party lends itself to that assumption

@Magisch it's about the voters, the citizens, not parties. On the outside they might say they don't like what Trump is doing. But inside they're happy to have a "strong" leader who is doing what he wants and pissing on the whole world. So they'll always vote for him.

@ShadowWizard Not really in a 2 party system

The party will never dare to remove a golden egg, a sure win, from its lead.

Most of the voters would rather something else but a 2 party system means you're morally obligated to vote for the lesser evil most likely to win as any vote for a third party is the same as not voting at all

One of the reasons why first past the post winner takes it all voting isn't a good idea

5:31 AM

@Magisch Not when the "something else" is considered as weak and pathetic. And fake news can cause anyone to appear this way, even if it's not true.

tbh I don't even know what's going on over there anymore

But I have long stopped thinking I have any clue what goes on in the mind of the citizens

In Israel, one named Shimon Peres once tried to be elected as PM. He was left winged. The leader of the right wing used one sentence in his own campaign: "Peres will split Jerusalem". This alone caused Peres to lose, and it's purely "fake news" as nobody can tell what someone will do in the future. Anyway... same happens in all elections since then, including in USA. Campaigns are not to show how good the candidate is, only to show how bad the other is, or can be, or will be.

any idea how to solve this z-index issue?

/Cc @JourneymanGeek

look at the task bar

user202362

5:54 AM

user202362

antelopes have pale butt too ...

Too? Who else got it? @Tel

user202362

elks

Random trivia of the day? ;)

user202362

yesterday, by Telkitty

Let's pause this whether ingestible, no harmful organic coarse powder ≈ dietary fibre discussion. I have a more profound, mind rattling, soul crashing question that I need the answer of: why do elks have paler butts?

user202362

5:57 AM

I am a person of science, I would like to know why ...

@Telkitty I think it's white, not pale. Just white color, by design. So ask whoever designed elks why he/she/it chose those colors. :)

Maybe some CSS rule? .butt: {color: white;}

(found somewhere in their DNA)

Thinking about it, humans don't get to have different colors for different body parts. So unfair!

user202362

also, as a mammal, the lacking of furs making us a creature of shadow ...

Q: For the one, you have forgotten my face

-2

Jehde chann de pichhe tenu sadi surat visri ve. Vekhange tenu ghol piyau kache dudh vich mishri ve Sadian julfan shaaven kattian bhul gya shikhar dupehran nu Aah chak apna chhalla ve ja pade jake gairan. Nu.

discussion

I flagged this as rude/abusive because it is not in english

@ShadowWizard I beat you by.... by.... by few milli seconds

lol

That user.... he also posted some crap yesterday, but in English.

Guess it's kind of rage quit.

omg

I didn't realised it is Hindi

@ShadowWizard he's at 1

bt 57 in phy and 9 in chem

6:10 AM

@OptimusPrime so what he's saying?

I don't know hindi

@OptimusPrime so? How's that relevant?

1 rep users can't rage quit? :)

even the american google know hindi. but I don't know it

did you checked the comments by him?

Yeah started to troll with comments too. Flagged the question asking to nuke the troll.

user202362

didn't the troll have some terminal illness last night?

6:16 AM

no idea

Well since it won't be deleted as offensive, voted to close.

@ShadowWizard why?

it should be deleted as rude/off.

@OptimusPrime looks like others don't think so. It needs 6, so will be faster to close and delete it.

@ShadowWizard hmm. I flag questions in non english as rude/ offensive. I think the right way to do it. am I correct?

@OptimusPrime yup

yesterday I had some argument with @Mithrandir about this

6:23 AM

Why not a custom flag?

@Desire that makes sense, yes. I have changed it already.

there's 100 reputation penalty for rude/offensive

unless you know it is.

I disagree with what @Mithrandir said. We don't need to go and translate to check whether it is rude or not. If it is non-english and can't read, just flag it as rude/offensive

if we can closevote, we can vtd ;p

@JourneymanGeek do you have any idea on previous ping?

6:24 AM

@OptimusPrime didn't really get what it the issue is

the z-index

If I am on chrome or explorer or paint or any other application, moving mouse pointer to the bottom didn't make the taskbar come

It's coming behind the window. have to minimize or resize the window to access taskbar or I have to press the start button

hah

autohide taskbar dosen't always work right for me either.

yup. sometimes it works without any issue.

but sometimes, it is very irritating

Microsoft doesn't know how to use z-index.

It's time for them to switch to JavaScript

^^ /Cc @Bart

→ 15 messages moved to Chimney

so @TheLittleNaruto how you doing?

6:39 AM

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Can I block entire area codes from my iPhone? by Tony Quart on apple.SE

@OptimusPrime I used to flag non English content as r/a until I started getting them declined and told that it wasn't supposed to be flagged as rude/abusive.

you should discuss it with the mods

I am a mod :P

so you declined your own flag. lol

6:47 AM

No, I didn't. I'm just not a mod everywhere :}

that's what I said. you should discuss it with the corresponding site mods in TL

so you'll get the points from CM's too

I have already.

what they said?

...non English content shouldn't be flagged as Rude/Abusive unless the translated content is itself rude/abusive.

I didn't get anything from the CMs there but the rest of the mods were fairly convincing :)

but we are not supposed to do the translation for them

they are abusing the system by posting non english content

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

6:50 AM

@OptimusPrime It's Optimus Prime's fault.

Feel free to bring it up as a meta post ;)

@Mithrandir from faq

@OptimusPrime gibberish actually has literal gibberish

but the previous word

> that contains no useful content at all

7:05 AM

do we know?

and as I've often said - the point of a flag is to get someone to take a look, and a custom flag may actually work better here.

@JourneymanGeek the site is used for english content. posting contents in other languages is really abusing the system. that's my point of view on this

at best, it gets deleted. at worst, we nuke the account.

For all you know it might just be someone really lost

a rude flag not only give a penalty but also some rate limits. but you just nuke the account. on the very next minute, he can create a new one

eh. not really

nuking an account does throw it into IP ban heck IIRC

@JourneymanGeek not sure, at least not automatic. Think only CM can put IP ban.

7:18 AM

@ShadowWizard well, I can't nuke an account here ;p

talking from the moderatorial POV?

I don't think deleting an account will give an ip ban because account deletions are happenings in many different scenarios

Certain types of account deletion will throw up an IP block.

I think almost all types of account destruction will throw up an IP block.

yup

@ShadowWizard yes, automatically, but it wears off after a couple of days. A CM is needed to put up a longer block.

We can't manually block an IP.

We can cause an IP to be blocked by nuking accounts on that IP.

@Mithrandir so if someone use a shared computer to spam (e.g. library, coffee shop), everyone using that computer after spammer is nuked won't be able to create accounts?

7:24 AM

@ShadowWizard they can create accounts.

@Mithrandir so... what's the IP block for?

They just will find themselves severely rate limited in posting.

@ShadowWizard rate limit

@Mithrandir oh. Thought the whole discussion here was about "on the very next minute, he can create a new one" that @Optimus said. So @OptimusPrime was right after all. :)

user202362

as a privileged dev, you can do even better: 1) log in as root, 2) DELETE FROM Users
WHERE Name= ...

7:25 AM

@ShadowWizard some people make posts on meta saying too many spam posts from your ip. you can't do that for next x hours

As far as I'm aware, the discussion with Shog about blocking IPs from creating new accounts didn't go anywhere :/

> Unhandled exception in SQLFoo: Violation of Foreign Key blah blah

@Telkitty it's around six clicks to nuke an account from the UI ;)

@ShadowWizard more or less

One can't just delete from main table, there are keys.... and Tim Post tend to lose them.... :D

7:38 AM

;p

7:59 AM

@Telkitty Jokes aside I think this would probably be a terrible way to do it

You're likely creating all sorts of deletion anomalies with this - orphaned records in subtables and such

theverge.com/2017/10/19/16503076/…

8:23 AM

cv and then delv pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/302333/…

delv pls ^^ cc @rene @sha @Jou

even Oded can nuke it with one click

How to do shogging?

First you find shog, then shog kicks you for wasting his time

3

eval("@+shog9".replace('+',''));

Hmm... risky :/ I'd like to bluing my feet instead

user310756

8:45 AM

@ShadowWizard erm, I may have a history of dramatic announcements of leaving- but I don't wait a whole week to come back -it's usually 5 minutes ROFLMA @Telkitty I think poor @Shog9 is used to me by now.

user202362

It's like quitting coffee

user202362

possible but not likely

user310756

lololol

user310756

I'm still recovering from the end of a uni session... I don't realise how stressful they are until they're done

user310756

When are you coming to visit us again? @Telkitty

user202362

8:52 AM

can I come & visit you tomorrow around 6:30pm?

user310756

sure

user310756

I only went there at 6.30 tonight

Hey Yvette

long time no see

user310756

it was calm in the rain

user310756

hi @Magisch I'm around, just not as chatty, as I'm busy

user310756

8:53 AM

how are you?

decent

user310756

that's good :)

user310756

are you studying?

every time I see @Yvette and @Telkitty planning a meeting my mind drifts off and start imaging them living in the middle of the no-where, protecting the hens from the grizzly bears and coyotes...
Somehow I expect to see them in an episode of "The last Alaskan" pretty soon, even if they probably live somewhere else

I imagine two people meeting in australia

And when I see/hear australia, my first thought is that there's tons of deadly insects and plants

8:57 AM

@Derpy and horses too

user310756

@Derpy LOLOL well we don't have grizzlys and coyotes, but if we get our chickens we will be protecting them from foxes and birds - esp magpies

@Magisch and bunnies :p

user310756

@Magisch erm, don't you mean snakes and animals and spiders - we don't have deadly insects or plants (not in particular ) lol

user310756

box jelly fish

user202362

magpies are lovely unless you have small pets because magpie might attack them ...

user310756

8:57 AM

blue ringed octopus

@YvetteColomb spider = insect?

user310756

funnel web

user310756

brown snake

also there is this plant in australia that has the most painful sting in the world

user310756

death adder

8:58 AM

and the pain can last years

user310756

@Magisch haven't heard of it

people have comitted suicide to escape the pain of the plant

user310756

red bellied black snakes

user310756

some type or cobra

user310756

taipan

8:59 AM

@YvetteColomb the Gympie Gympie plant

user310756

we have a load of deadly snakes, far deadlier than the rattle snake

@YvetteColomb lolz

Inland Taipan is apparently pretty deadly and agressive too

user310756

@Magisch wow never heard of it until now

@OptimusPrime he did

9:00 AM

@Magisch wow, that would be a job for Brave Wilderness (YouTube link)...

user310756

brown snakes are what we have to worry about where we live

user202362

those creatures are 'shy'

user310756

I've had a five foot python in one of my bedrooms. We also unearthed nests of snakes. I've had cats bring in snakes into the house.

five foot python doesn'T sound bad

pythons aren't venomous

You could just grab it and put it outside

>>> python

user310756

9:02 AM

@Telkitty the brown snake is the one that is less likely to run and will stand it's ground. Except the dead adder, which lies compeltely still to hide and will only bit if you step on or right near it

user310756

@Magisch I hid in my bathroom LOLOL

user202362

once I ran into 3 snakes in one day while doing the great ocean walk, almost stepped on to one, they couldn't wait to get away from me, probably very scared ...

user310756

@Telkitty yep

I found a snake once while camping

someone took photos and we all took a look until releasing it from the tent

user310756

when we lived in the country we had to be uber careful. In the city when we're lived bear bush and where my horses are now - very careful, it borders onto bushland

9:03 AM

How do you live in australia then?

@Magisch link to photos? ;)

Just in constant paranoia of every bush?

user202362

like I said, those creatures are scared of people

@ShadowWizard Don't think I have them anymore, that was over 10 years ago

user202362

if you are not food, they have little reason to attack you

9:05 AM

:(

still, I'd be paranoi as hell

Fear of the unknown... You can't really tell what the snake will do. 🐍

user202362

think from spider/snake point of view: there is a huge creature that could kill me, do I want to bite it?

10 years... So you were a teenager?

@Telkitty if that would stop the big creature due to my poison? Yup.

@ShadowWizard We found out later that it was a snake that isn't actually a snake but a lizard

Anguilis fragilis I think

No clue how to translate "Blindschleiche" into english

user310756

9:08 AM

@Telkitty yep @Magisch they're more scared of us they we are of them

@ShadowWizard Yeah I was 13 and we went camping with class

user310756

@Telkitty yep they prefer to run and hdie

user310756

I'm not scared, just careful

Weirdly enough I'm not scared by snakes or spiders, but by almost all other insects

user310756

I grew up on the beaches in the see and we were educated about sharks, blue ringed octopus - never put your foot into a rock pool, jelly fish and box jelly fish are further up the coast

9:09 AM

Weirdly enough I'm not scared of insects, because I do photograph them now...

user310756

@Magisch spiders are great - they eat flies and mosquitoes

(and arachnids, and other invertebrate...)

List of motor vehicle deaths in U.S. by year

@YvetteColomb Indeed. I have a cross spider (about 1,5cm diameter) in one of my plants

It's a symbiotic situation. The spider has ample to eat and I have fewer flies in my apartment

user310756

@Magisch yep I hate using fly spray

user310756

I use these for fly and mosquito control en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrethrin

user202362

9:14 AM

from statistic point of view, you should be more wary of cars than spiders/snakes, there are less than 5 deaths per year in Australia due to snake + spider bites and greater than 1000 due to cars.

user202362

The table below is a list of motor vehicle deaths in the United States by year. According to data compiled by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), in 2016, 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 crashes, an average of 102 per day. In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes (30,296 fatal crashes), killing 32,999 and injuring 2,239,000, and around 2,000 children under 16 years old die every year due to traffic collisions. Records indicate that there has been a total of 3,613,732 motor vehicle fatalities in the United States from 1899 to 2013. Although the number of deaths...

not all fears are rational

@Telkitty only 37K? shame

here, we cover it in 5-10 states

keralapolice.org/public-information/crime-statistics/…

user202362

as a small spider, a snake, I would think to myself when I see a person 'there is a gigantic creature that could potentially crash and kill me, I better run before it could get to me ...'

user310756

smh.com.au/national/health/…

9:21 AM

and after an average rain, THIS IS HOW THE ROAD WILL LOOK LIKE in kerala

user202362

you have fishing ponds on roads?

user310756

The main issue with snakes and spiders is not to disturb them. If you're aware they may be around

in Sugarcube Corner, 1 min ago, by Derpy

in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Aug 11 at 15:35, by Derpy

@Telkitty probably

fly away my little spider, fly away and escape

user310756

9:22 AM

how-i-met-your-mother.wikia.com/wiki/Cockamouse

user310756

Half cockroach half mouse and it can fly

HI @Yve

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Ad hoc 'Logmein Rescue' style remote desktopping? by Prasanta Shee on askubuntu.com

9:29 AM

@SmokeDetector looks like he's not affiliated with the mentioned service

bt he's a member since today. may be came here for spamming or posted that without knowing the rules of spamming

looks like they're right

user310756

huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/09/27/…

10 mins ago, by Optimus Prime

HI @Yve

user202362

Just between you & me kz, don't think low of me - I like to bully the baby magpies, like catch them, cuddle them, feed them, pet them, then release them ...

@Telkitty I saw some photos of magpies

They look huggable

user202362

9:43 AM

but in india, X won't cost $999.99

It is 54K or something like that

Iphone is radically overpriced anyways

aint nobody got the cash to buy a 1300$ phone wtf

I could get a whole gaming pc and spare change for that

hah

Yeah

10:03 AM

hoo. I'm lucky

got more than the average on coinhive. The current average payout rate for 1M hash is 0.00014159 XMR but I got 0.00014908 XMR

A: swift 3, ios 10 - push notification firebase is not received

10:34 AM

anybody saw this?

mtschirs.github.io/js-objectdetect/examples/…

user315433

11:20 AM

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keep smile Catherine and Happy weekend baby hope you make a solution about your problem i'm sorry I can't help you but I will stay with you until success

user315433

Stack Overflow is such a nice place sometimes.

user202362

sometimes I like to throw myself on to stupid/ignorant person and tear the person into shreds for uttering dumb things ...

11:47 AM

@Telkitty Like what?

"Kiddiminster's winning the NFL this year!"

12:16 PM

So.. I've lost track. who's Alex? is it @Success or @Desire?

hmm. not @Desire

so @Success

@OptimusPrime You're Alex.

no

@JourneymanGeek I'm PRIME

12:46 PM

user315433

Also on the agenda: what's with his hips?

1:23 PM

shouldn't something like this be nuked?
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41841930/owl-carousel-not-working-in-responsive-mode

"go to my site to see the code my question is based on. Yep, trust me, the site isn't evil"

@Derpy why? That's link is given so that if people found difficulty in reproducing problem, they can use that link. That's quite common on SO

1:53 PM

Is there any reason to add discussion tag?

rollbacked it

It is unnecessary edit

the edit summary says it is for better viewership

but faq posts are not meant to be discussed

@alexolut Thanks for reporting. you'll get some awesome swag for reporting this from Shog (or Bluefeet (or Tim post (or Jon ericson ( or JNat or (....)))))

;p

@OptimusPrime because based on the answer the error isn't caused in any way by the code posted in the question. Instead, the user answering found out the code is in a call only present in the original code on the original site. To understand the answer I would have to view the original site.

2:08 PM

@Derpy I asked about it on SOCVR, but seems my question was ambiguous (is it on-topic? no MCVE?), and no one VTC it...

so:
1) the question is incomplete. The fundamental part of the snippet, the one causing the error isn't even there
2) the code is found on an external site that can at any moment go missing or be replaced by malevolent content
3) it encourages the user to go to the external site to try to understand the answer. See point 2) for "malevolent content potential". Also, free visits for question creator.
4) search will work poorly since again the real question subject isn't even there.

@OptimusPrime what swag do you mean?

@alexolut imaginary invisible swag ;p

Now I'm waiting for the reply from Shog on my answer in comment. But looks like he is in bed yet :)

@JourneymanGeek whoa-a... somewhere I read that swag means "secretly we are gay"

lol no

swag is anglophone-geek for "little things companies send to get you to like em" ;p

2:18 PM

@alexolut hmm I saw that too on a facebook photo. but it's fake

snopes.com/language/acronyms/swag.asp (etymology of 'swag')

> Illegally obtained goods.

lol ok :D

@JourneymanGeek yep, I know, just kidding;)

user202362

Swag (bedroll)

In Australia, a swag is a portable sleeping unit. It is normally a bundle of belongings rolled in a traditional fashion to be carried by a foot traveller in the bush. Before motor transport was common, foot travel over long distances was essential to agriculture in the Australian bush. It is sometimes referred to as a "backpack bed". Swags have been carried by shearers, miners, the unemployed, and many others, some of whom would have been happy to have been called swagmen and some not. == Modern use == In Australia, the term swag is still widely used to refer to a tent or other portable shelter...

user202362

I thought SE finally understood feral at heart ppl like me ...

I want that swag :O

2:31 PM

@alexolut we all are. No? ;-)

@alexolut what reply? The request is declined...

@ShadowWizard reply about colons, not <1k

Q: Don't let users without 2,000+ reputation edit faq posts here on MSE without review

@alexolut no. Yet another clueless user making bad edit.

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Questions tagged as faq are semi-official and should contain reliable and high quality contents. However, here on Meta Stack Exchange, as per policy, all of them are also marked as Community Wiki, which means that any user with at least 100 reputation (even a brand new user who just joined the s...

feature-request edits meta meta-faq

@ShadowWizard I don't know, I'm from another chat :)

@ShadowWizard upvoted immediatly after been posted :)

@alexolut pretty sure Shog's colon is fine. ;)

@ShadowWizard How do you know? WHO DIED AND MADE YOU A PROCTOLOGIST?

2:38 PM

@alexolut thanks!

@JourneymanGeek I can tell from looking at his head.

@ShadowWizard hmm.... you mean from another side?

@alexolut nah... With bad colon he would be in pain. ;)

@Mithrandir tried the DMZ room too, seems pretty empty at the moment.

@rene isn't it irritating for you when people call you Rene?

@ShadowWizard BTW, In Russian "нах" (pronounced same as "nah" is a short form of "нахуй") means "we don't need this" in a rough way.

2:44 PM

@ShadowWizard its a capital thing to call him ;)

@alexolut nice... I only know the word "niet" which is "no". :)

TTL

"Niet panemayash"

@JourneymanGeek but he chose to be small... (case)

@ShadowWizard everyday for us something new ;) Metallica says

@OptimusPrime DDR?

2:47 PM

@ShadowWizard Show me your move!

@Success 💃

3:00 PM

@ShadowWizard it kind of is, yes. If they prefer to do that, then they better write my name properly.

3:11 PM

@JourneymanGeek it is not only the Capital ...

@rene what else?

@rene which makes me wonder, if it is your real name, why lower case?

The last e needs an Acute-accent

No such thing in my keyboard...

Check

3:13 PM

Checked

@ShadowWizard Which is why I deliberately choose to not use it, to make everyone's life easier

@rene you're too good... ;)

@ShadowWizard use an US-Intl key board ....

@ShadowWizard IKR

@rene why?

@rene OFC

@ShadowWizard That should offer dead-keys to combine the ' with the e

3:19 PM

Prefer my keys to be alive...

Without them you can't type é

è

oops, wrong direction

Alt+0233 helps

:D

canon

3:57 PM

bleh

user315433

7:06 PM

SmokeDetector is an anagram of "Coder Tom Skeet". Does Jon Skeet have a brother?

You have too much time on your hands...