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Your master has returned @ShaWizDowArd

With the popcorn you asked for

Indeed, here I am

Because i'm nice like that

but without popcorn

Wait ...

Oh

This is a turn of events

now where is my smiting stick ...

8:20 AM

@Bart Kenny ate it

in Shadow's Den, 8 secs ago, by KennyBOT

~ Thanks for the @Bart's smiting stick, appreciated!

8:32 AM

So does anyone know why I can't access any other chats

But this one

Like how to get around that proxy

8:42 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Any insights on Lasik surgery? by Helen on health.SE

Dukeling

I think I'll be happier if I just stop looking at my flag summary page...

@Dukeling how?

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Albzi Your Cish is My Wommand!

Dukeling

Inevitably some of my flags get declined and that frustrates me. I already try to avoid flagging borderline cases for this reason, but the problem persists. I know I shouldn't take it personally, but it's hard.

If I just avoid looking at my flag summary page, I'd be oblivious to the occasional declined flag.

... and I'm already pretty conservative when it comes to keeping comments.

9:05 AM

Hey don't feel bad about it dude

Your flags were declined and that is definitely not a personal attack or anything

It's just that the moderator who declined them didn't share the same views

That's not a bad thing at all

I rarely flag because I'm a horrible judge of what is and isn't OK

But you're flagging to make the site nicer so that's ok, even if they don't get accepted

Isn't about time someone out there mixes Malbolge with Emojicode?

All the fun of Malbolge with the added annoyance of using emoji characters (and having to remember the keyboard key combo for them)

Is that a new hearthstone card or something the malbolge

esolangs.org/wiki/Malbolge

> Malbolge, invented by Ben Olmstead in 1998, is an esoteric programming language designed to be as difficult to program in as possible. The first "Hello, world!" program written in it was produced by a Lisp program using a local beam search of the space of all possible programs. It is modelled as a virtual machine based on ternary digits.

Mithrandir

9:32 AM

@ShaWizDowArd correct

@Mithrandir is here! Quick, my pony army! Attack!

@Derpy "The same program translated to normalized Malbolge for clarity:"

> jpoo*pjoooop*ojoopoo*ojoooooppjoivvv
o/i
<iviv
i<vvvvvvvvvvvvv
oji

... right

@Bart why have you summoned me?

Surrounded

:P

@Oded If that summoned you ... then who was it that appeared when I chanted "Dedo dedo dedo"?

9:36 AM

@Bart you did what? Oh, Bart. I'm so sorry. Was nice knowing you.

You can expect a visit from:

Dido (singer)

Dido Florian Cloud de Bounevialle O'Malley Armstrong, known as Dido (, born 25 December 1971), is an English singer and songwriter. Dido attained international success with her debut album No Angel (1999). It sold over 21 million copies worldwide, and won several awards, including the MTV Europe Music Award for Best New Act, two NRJ Awards for Best New Act and Best Album, and two Brit Awards for Best British Female and Best Album. Her next album, Life for Rent (2003), continued her success with the hit singles "White Flag" and "Life for Rent". Dido's first two albums are among the best-selling...

(must be your accent)

and now, we will be able to use the google search query in the original version of the post to discover Oded secret location

@Oded oh god no. Anything but Dido!!!

I hope you survive.

9:50 AM

@Bart who's that?

is he danger than beiber?

user202362

cats of tavern, unite!

user202362

too many horses and doggies

user202362

need more kitties to off balance that

@Telkitty cats can't survive dogs

but I am too young

once I grew up, I can kill and eat all kitties

grrr

waiting

user202362

9:59 AM

@Telkitty that'll happen if you kitties try to play with dogs

/Cc JourneymanGeek

Third stage evolution of a dog is a wolf. The third stage evolution of a cat is probably a lion/tiger.

Nope, at lev. 100 the Catmon wins

Feeds

I watched from a beautiful nature reserve in central Missouri, and it was--without exaggeration--the coolest thing I've ever seen.

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

11:42 AM

@Oded hehe, I once knew a girl named Didi... real name... :D

12:25 PM

hiya

user315433

12:47 PM

Christianity is 6 years old today. Most viewed question of the year: Are there any Christian sects that believe in “curative intercourse”? (probably HNQ)

user315433

I always know where I am by the way the road looks... River Phoenix would be 47 today.

1:12 PM

edit-reject-pls meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/53676

Q: How to Publish Excel, A: Install Sharepoint ....

you just said a very very very bad thing, @rene

(maybe I should create a second scold button to use when someone suggests installing the horror).

1:30 PM

@Derpy yes, I was hoping you would see that ... ;)

@Derpy well, they didn't really suggest to install it, here is the context

@Derpy cuddle, cuddle, cuddle ....

user598527

Can someone show me how does the setting to mark your question as a community wiki post look like? I'm not sure if I can't mark a question as a CW or if I haven't found the option. Please post a screenshot (you could also edit this answer: meta.stackexchange.com/a/50314/339050)

I missed that there is no community wiki checkbox when asking a question.

1:47 PM

@rene corrected version:

> Maybe it is already to late, but do you use Sharepoint at work? That your problem! Quick! Race to Mt. Doom and toss the server in the fire where it was forged!

@user598527 you can't mark your question CW

@Derpy XD

@user598527 what @Bart says and you can flag for a mod and ask them to CW the question for you

sorry, double ping

Is anyone following what is going on with the latest questions on MSE?

@rene it's fun

like watching the share value of some company in share market

He's incredibly lazy

yeah, well I have the popcorn out but it also gets annoying

@Oded that's a way of saying it, yes ....

2:03 PM

@Oded you're commenting in the same way. unnecessary bold marking

@i-- was trying to make a point to the OP.

may be the best way to make someone understood how bad it is

I said it ^^^ :)

@Oded you get points for trying

his graph looks like the share market

@rene something tells me he won't be annoying anyone for much longer

2:17 PM

You knock on his door now?

user202362

@i-- obviously you have not traded shares before

don't consider it as 0.

user202362

share trading is fun, it's like playing a mass multi-player game

user202362

although it's only 2D - either going up or down

user202362

or stay the same, but chance of that happening in the long run is small ...

2:21 PM

recently heard a news that some of the shareholders of facebook want to change Mark from the position of CEO

didn't remember exactly when

@Telkitty the same happens for cryptocurrencies

Pandya

2:46 PM

However I registered for Town Hall Chat, I can't/won't be present or discuss with you because there will be mid night in India at the scheduled time.

3:11 PM

@Pandya I raised this issue long ago

but no response

I participated once. well it's at midnight 1

and another time it happened very early say 11PM so I am not able to participate

If you look at the hours I'm generally active you'll see why - I need someone else to run it if it's gonna happen during UTC-ish working hours.

Bhargav Rao

Your weekly messages chart looks it's giving us the finger. :/

3:31 PM

@Shog9 the first thing I see at that link is "Bart's dirty secrets" ... right ...

that says more about you than me

clearly we don't own enough rooms together

Need: Bart's clean secrets, Bart's slightly soiled but still good if you turn 'em inside out secrets, Bart's secrets that should've been thrown out years ago but remain as tattered reminders of a past best forgotten...

You should see my glow in the dark secrets. They didn't do that originally, but if you leave them for long enough that happens.

Andy

slowly steps out of the room

user315433

4:01 PM

> I'm making changes to Stack Overflow reputation calculations today. What could possibly go wrong? twitter.com/aalear/status/900380455190618112 … -- Adam Lear at 8:44 AM - 23 Aug 2017

Maybe someone should ask Adam to step away from the keyboard?

Let's wait and see whether the mistakes help or hurt our reputations.

You're feeling lucky today?

First wrong rep calc report is already in: meta.stackexchange.com/q/300088/158100

We really do need to test our database backups once in awhile.

and always test in production ...

4:08 PM

@rene Got my hopes up. Boring!

XD

6:16 PM

@rene that's another issue

srsly?

Adam's changes aren't in production just yet. We really are testing on dev first.

Oh come on, live life on the edge ;)

@JonEricson maybe verify if my rep still looks OK on dev ....

Oh, maybe not. I didn't have much Documentation rep

I wouldn't be a good test-case

@rene Huh. -1. Never seen that before. ;-)

Ha!

user315433

6:31 PM

Pets got two new mods, one with 580 rep.

Yeah, do you remember we talked about if you could become a mod without much contributing, only by moderating (suggested edits etc)? I think I concluded it was hard and unlikely but I might have to re-assess that position

Pro tempore moderators are kinda special in that their primary responsibility is just to keep the site from completely going to shit (keep the grass mowed...).

Ah yes, town hall soon.

canon

One of the main things that makes SO attractive, to me at least, is that the content is heavily curated by the community. It'll be interesting to see whether Channels™ can succeed without the involvement of the greater community... you know... without becoming private little cesspools.

@Shog9 So a bit of participation on a site but a solid track record elsewhere will work in that case?

6:43 PM

@rene maybe

canon

lego.SE needs to get buildin'

it depends

@canon this is a big open question. Critically, it's why we've resisted a lot of spin-off sites in the past; you lose those "municipal services" that being a small tag on SO provides. For private sites especially, we've seen the need for a very large number of regular users and/or full-time staff just to be even slightly useful; finding ways to integrate Channels into the larger SO experience while still enabling a dedicated maintainer to take action is going to make or break Channels, IMHO.

After thinking about what my constituency wants, I... am absolutely certain that we 1. need a opt-in (eventually transitioning to default) hotness sort for answers 2. need to unpin (not unaccept) accepteds after a year of being pinned, 3. need to consider a process for debating and deleting bad answers.

"hotness" is readily gamed

unpin is a good idea, but massively controversial

#3 already exists

6:50 PM

"hotness" needs to be debated.

#3 only exists for low-voted answers.

low-voted != bad

then we don't need a process, we need an objective definition for "bad" that doesn't include score

I don't think hotness is easy to game over the long run, I would want to consider it over a period of 6 months to a year, depending on the age of the question.

an idea I came across a while back that seemed useful was the notion of voting velocity: essentially, an answer with a high score that's consistently dropping would be highlighted as potentially inaccurate, while an answer with a low score that's consistently rising would be highlighted as potentially more current.

Note that this wouldn't necessarily affect the sort order

The problem with using heat as a sort criteria is that it tends to feed back into itself: you put the post that's getting the most attention up-top, it gets more attention.

Expiring oldest votes could work where people are still actively voting...

and utterly fail in the huge long tail where only a tiny number of people on earth will ever need the answer

6:58 PM

@Shog9 That's the problem with the current pinning and top voted sorting....

How about "new canonicals"?

@AaronHall we're looking for something better than that, right?

Well, now I'm just brainstorming.

Accepted answers are actually an escape-hatch for the problem with pure score-based sorts - an answer that looks good but doesn't work for the asker doesn't necessarily get the top spot.

What tends to irritate the most people then isn't so much that good answers don't get the top spot, it's that answers they like don't actually solve the problem being asked about.