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They have/had a lot of documentation for internal Mozilla APIs. Many of which are fast disappearing as they race to create a browser exactly as extensible as Chrome.

I have no idea if that's what they're obliquely referring to, but you gotta admit it sounds a lot more positive than "we're stripping out all of the stuff that's now deprecated"

user202362

1:03 AM

is there a quality control for the mentors?

There'll be a separate class of mentors for the mentors, trained from birth to hone their reasoning and memorization skills. They'll be known as "mentats".

user202362

talentless.com - omg not taken, I see opportunities

user202362

cheap labour for hire: talentless.com

user310756

hm popped in - that's my queue to leave "mentats"

user202362

it will be like reject shop:

user202362

1:08 AM

The Reject Shop

The Reject Shop is an Australian discount variety store chain. Founded in 1981 as a "seconds" store in South Yarra, the company currently operates over 340 stores Australia-wide. The Reject Shop employs over 5,600 staff. The group replaced the majority of Chickenfeed (Retail Chain) stores in Tasmania, and took up the space that was left when Retail Adventures closed down == History == Since 1994, the chain was previously majority owned by Macquarie Bank, but was floated on the Australian stock exchange in June 2004 when Macquarie decided to offload its shares. The float was successful, with the...

user202362

but for people

Wait, there was a store called "Chickenfeed"?

user202362

user310756

aw she's so cute

user202362

:D

user310756

1:12 AM

you'll be meeting these next week

user310756

user202362

that's a young chook, my chicken is a lot older :p

user202362

prograndma chicken :p

user310756

all her friends were killed by foxes

user310756

lol

user202362

1:14 AM

Oo :(

user310756

I gotta go to H now. bbl

user202362

cya later :)

user315433

> I have not been active on philosophy.SE recently because my ideas on moderation don't match those of past moderators. philosophy.stackexchange.com/election/2#post-44864

user315433

Sounds promising

user202362

@Shog9 I feel that sometimes, you are a like a lone dog sent by your herd to testing unknown situations - occasionally potential risky situations. You never know when you are sent to raccoons' den ...

1:19 AM

raccoons and people aren't so different

user202362

raccoons are awesome - they are eager to share (other people's/animal's) food

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user315433

The number of ads promoting SO Podcast is disconcerting. I tried several questions on Drupal Answers: 100% of ads are podcast. Similar situation on other medium-sized sites like Web Apps or Stats.

user315433

1:34 AM

Might as well put up pictures of Taco in unsold ad space.

user315433

Get Joel more likes on Instagram.

user202362

pimpmydog.com

user315433

Maybe if selfserve-stackexchange.com offered sites other than the trilogy... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

user202362

is NY summer too hot for huskies?

user202362

LUNA LOVES THE FRIDGE

►

user315433

1:40 AM

instagram.com/spolsky has no recent pictures of Taco, but then again, Joel is on sabbatical in Europe.

user202362

let's debate the ethics on whether people who travel a lot should be allowed to keep pets

user202362

1:58 AM

@Alex on sly level you are 1 bar higher than shog but on courage level you are 1 bar beneath ...

user202362

sly is like intelligence without honesty

user202362

@alex, let's playing a role playing game ... if you pretend to be a mouse, I will pretend to be a cat ...

user315433

(a) self-service site will not sell ads on anything except trilogy; (b) reps won't take calls unless you spend $5000+; (c) no ads sold.

2:46 AM

788 unread messages... which meant I missed the Town Hall (again)

3:15 AM

@SagarV Hey!

6:05 AM

@thesecretmaster yeah

7:15 AM

Where is my spam flag?

Derpy

@cazc_941 even better: replace an obsolete framework with another obsolete framework.

JamesENL

@SagarV already deleted

8:35 AM

9:39 AM

in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 37 secs ago, by Derpy

Tempted to post it in the Anime room.

~~Town~~ Spam Hall

user310756

10:08 AM

user310756

@Telkitty this is the young chicken - also called "chicken" with Penny. Unlike your grandma chicken :D

10:34 AM

→ 18 messages moved to Chimney

user202362

@YvetteColomb chicken seems to be good mate with the horse :p

It's actually.. fascinating seeing both of you living in the same area and having the same hobby (or work?). Made me questioning whether people living there are naturally a... farmer? breeder?

user310756

@Telkitty she's lonely and loves the horses, the bush turkeys and the ducks

user310756

@Inc. nope not at all - we both just happen to be awesome :D

user310756

I tell you @Telkitty is even more awesome in real life than she is in chat !! True story

user202362

10:47 AM

In my personal opinion, only people like @yvette should be allowed to keep pets because she actually takes good care of them :)

user310756

@Telkitty aw you're so nice :D You mean I don't take overseas trips and leave them?

user310756

I'm so excited for you to meet my girls.

user202362

Looking forward to meet your girls too :D

user310756

We will be getting Missy up in a few months - she's our other girl. she's in the country atm running around wrecking her rugs

user202362

how come you have your horses at different places?

user202362

10:50 AM

it's quite expensive to keep them so close to the city though

user310756

it is! tell me about it. Missy is elsewhere while Cleo is recovering from her injury. Also where I have them is not large enough for the 3 all the time - it will turn to mud, I need to preserve the grass

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11:10 AM

@Alex is there a reason they have 26 question untagged? Worth a meta question?

Da

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11:27 AM

@SagarV I think that lock was totally reasonable.

@thesecretmaster nope. please read the faq

quoting> Posts should generally only be locked in cases where something seriously bad is happening. In particular, where the ongoing updates and edits are actively detrimental to the system.

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A: What is a "locked" post?

What does it mean to lock a post? A question or answer which is locked can no longer accept: edits up-votes, down-votes comments, comment up-votes new answers (questions only) close votes, reopen votes (questions only) In the case of locked questions, the (unlocked) answers are not bounded t...

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Georgia invitation letter for visa by travel advisor on travel.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: How to recover information from a well weathered limestone tombstone? by Alexandra on genealogy.SE

@SagarV Nope, historical lock is different

A historical lock preserves older content that was very popular when it was originally posted, but is now off-topic or otherwise out of scope for the site it is posted on.

that is never off topic

Asking for nominations for pro-tem mods would be off topic if asked now.

11:39 AM

no one will ask it. but the CM's will if they think there must a need of additional mods

that is upto CM's and hence not off topic

I am not arguing but in my point of view, the lock is irrelevant.

I mean, it's not doing any harm. Also, IMO it's like an election. Nominations/voting shouldn't happen after the election is over. Also, it helped me break [featured].

@SagarV What's the internet for if not pointless arguments?

@thesecretmaster well the community is against arguments

That's no fun :(

if you want fun, join this room

Wizards Den

Place for all wizards to share spells, words, and having fun w...

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@thesecretmaster you may convert it to CW or simply consider further votes are feedback of your moderation :)

11:54 AM

@SagarV that room is no fun. Terrible room. @ShadowWizard uses it to confuse and harass me.

really @ShadowWizard

@Bart but @rene might need your glasses! Won't you give them to him? :P

!!blame @ShadowWizard

!!/blame @Saga

@ShadowWizard It's Bart's fault.

11:55 AM

duh

See, I should just report Shadow at some point.

It's getting out of hand

!!/blame @SmokeDetector

@SagarV It's Bart's fault.

true

true

Well even when you're not there we're using your Smiting stick, @Bart

in Shadow's Den, 54 secs ago, by KennyBOT

~ I'm not sure I ever had Smiting stick of @Bart ...

12:02 PM

Stop eating my smiting stick. It's not for consumption

Too late. Will it kill @Kenny?

may be

:(

Let's try to take it out...

It will poo

@ShadowWizard already did

but it is not coming. everything else came out

12:05 PM

OK, it's out

in Shadow's Den, 14 secs ago, by KennyBOT

~ BLLLEEEAAAAEERRRGGGGGJHHHHHH Smiting stick of @Bart !!!!!

Phew

@ShadowWizard give it to @Bart

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: UK Visa Application for Self Employed by mike on travel.SE

12:28 PM

12:42 PM

1:09 PM

@Derpy buh, no animation

@Derpy poor derpy

1:52 PM

mineweeper.herokuapp.com (have fun) clicking on a bomb does not end the game (yet)

Bhargav Rao

mine weeper? o_O

completed

BhargavRao can mod's delete tags immediately?

Bhargav Rao

No

CMs can

@BhargavRao lol yep

minesweeper was taken ;-P

@SagarV ha I gotta figure out the end game part soon ;-P

confused.

is there a technology called Kartik-v or he just kidding?

Bhargav Rao

1:57 PM

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA mynesweeper would have been better. :D

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA nope

I need to score more and more.

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA please don't

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA [bug] the timer is still running

angular is killing me

@SagarV there's yii2 by kartik-v (a person), so... just remove kartik-v

That is a name of person and I think it should be deleted. If I remove the tag, it will stay there and removed only after a certain amount of time

Wait. There are so many questions tagged with kartik-v!?

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Andy

2:06 PM

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA I clicked a bomb on my first move :(

@Andy you deserve a medal for that :p

@SagarV it seems he also has some libraries like on this question. That said, the tag should represent the name of the library, not the author...

Andy

It's Minesweeper THE GAME, after all

waiting for anyone who reacts to that...

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA nice! But iron rule is that the first click never hit a bomb, i.e. you build the map only after the first click.

It's lame to lose in your first click....

2:10 PM

Windows Minesweeper moves the bomb to somewhere else if the first click is a bomb.

@Inc. whaaat? How you know that?

Makes more sense they just build the map based on first click... no?

I redirected a person from here to Superuser. said him to take tour and how to ask but he may ask the question as it is there

@ShadowWizard I, uh, remember I read it somewhere... but not sure where

Journeyman Geek

hm

I cannae see how something would be on topic in SU main and here

he want to enable notification from certain apps in windows

2:21 PM

@ShadowWizard apparently not really correct. The correct one is, the board changes.

I remember having a VB.Net program that would tell me where all the mines were. If I purposely clicked on a mine as the first square, the board changed. I would say that's quite verifiable and correct. — Canadian Luke Jun 25 '15 at 18:36

Or maybe it's correct, after all?

@ShadowWizard lol I found that out after I built it. I can code that in later ;-)

user315433

2:39 PM

!!/report robotics.stackexchange.com/a/13913

user315433

@rene One-use tag without any description being culled by a script after 6 months. Those questions tend to accumulate on sites that border on ghost towns. Board & Card Games has 18 of them.

user315433

I'd be more concerned about 107 questions tagged русский which is in the site's name and should be intrinsic.

user315433

It's just as uninformative, and can be applied to posts directly unlike [untagged].

user315433

In any case, I don't have an account on rus.se, so... мне наплевать.

user315433

> In Grand Rapids, we're known as Beer City, U.S.A., and our airport reflects the West Michigan regional culture. -- grr.org

user315433

2:52 PM

Does this mean all airport workers are drinking beer on the job, or what?

3:28 PM

@ShadowWizard should be fixed now mineweeper.herokuapp.com that should not happen anymore ;-)

3:59 PM

that's great

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4:17 PM

@Alex Ok, at least I noticed.

Of course my password would expire with 3 days left on my contract -_-

@jadarnel27 just call it day and leave early ...

@rene That's probably for the best.

Nothing improves productivity on my last couple days like struggling to remember a new 20 character password.

11111111111111111111

There ^

your new password

Ask us if you lost it ...

Hm, should've posted in here a few minutes ago. I don't think I can change twice in one day.

4:33 PM

You can't change it twice a day? What is that for security? Can't you file an FR to require everyone to change passwords twice a day? Just insist on the dangers like cyberthreat, ransomware. Would be nice if that was implemented the day after you left ...

We were made aware of a serious security flaw therefor passwords now need to be brown and changed twice per day

cazc_941

Just use the most secure password

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@cazc_941 That's excellent.

@rene Upsides: hackers won't be able to log in. Downsides: no one will be able to log in.

Anonymous

20 random characters..?!

cazc_941

Unique*

It's the most secure password why would we need a different one

The next time some password lists gets leaked, we should check how often it's on there

4:44 PM

@cazc_941 lol wut

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!!/report anime.stackexchange.com/a/41595/2516

@cazc_941 I don't know if the generated password is based on anything, but...

too hard to remember, won't use it :|

I generally used sm1tingst1ck. Easy to remember, secure, and as long as I keep it to myself I should be safe.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Who cut off Zephyr's arm? by user34847 on anime.SE

@Bart That's a great password! On an unrelated note, where do you do your online banking?

4:56 PM

Credit Suisse, why?

Just, uh...curious. Thinking about...uh, switching banks. Yeah.

It's funny you ask, someone asked the same recently. Such a nice guy. Asked about my mom as well. Seems he knew her. Got her maiden name all wrong though, so I had to correct that.

@Bart That was very helpful of you!

I've always wondered what your favorite subject in school was...

@jadarnel27 art classes. Although I got in trouble one time when my favourite pet Bello ate a painting one day.

I hate it when that happens. Something similar happened to my maternal grandmother, Eunice.

Andrew Myers

5:19 PM

@enderland This is what I meant when I was suggesting a new SE for questions: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/353930/5764553

Not specifically bad questions, just new questions and questions from users who need help writing questions

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6:09 PM

@ShadowWizard I added a new game button mineweeper.herokuapp.com

Blah blah blah

Did anything come of the Town Hall event?

I see some discussions, but no conclusions

user315433

The conclusion is that it's great to have a UX researcher who doesn't use SO.

@Alex not a very conclusiony conclusion

user315433

6:32 PM

Yay, some good news for once on Google News: "Kendall Jenner NOT Posting Nude Photos To Win Back Harry Styles, Despite Report"

user315433

I've no idea who those people are, but it looks like a sensible decision.

lol

cazc_941

@Inc. the joke is that it's the same every time for everyone

I.E. it is the most secure password ever and everyone should just use that

@cazc_941 for once, I thought it's generated based on my IP. But I figured it out after googling the 'password' :)

user0042

Strange experience here today:

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Q: Strange rendering at chat

Today I found my mozilla engine based browser left me with some strange (image) rendering quirks at the Tavern on the Meta chatroom: I suspect it might have something to do with the "not blocking insecure passive content" as described here: Mixed content blocking in Firefox Though I didn't f...

A: As a US citizen, what law requires me to pay income tax?

7:00 PM

@Andy That issue has been fixed :-)

user315433

7:15 PM

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OOps, That wasn't me. That was the insane cat I live with. He tortures me. Please Help!

@M.A.R. that there will be another one in two weeks

How was your trip? @M.A.R.

user0042

@Alex Aww, just hide in the woods :-P

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA nice! Now all I need is the middle button to work and I'm good. :D

@ShadowWizard middle button?

user0042

Funny enough, right now everything just looks fine regarding this. Does that mean we only have well behaved members in right now?

7:22 PM

@ShadowWizard exhausting

@ShadowWizard what do you mean by middle button?

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA yup. Clicking it on a number is equivalent to clicking all the non flagged squares around the number.

It is crucial for fast games.

Saves ~80% of the time required to finish.

@ShadowWizard double click.

Middle click! ;)

But yeah, see the double click works :D

I just added pressing both mouse buttons for the same event (it'll be up in a minute or two @ShadowWizard)

7:43 PM

Yay!

Aya!

7:55 PM

Too impolite? Just enough?

Change it to "Are you sure you need to post this question? Really, really sure?"

A: How much research effort is expected of Stack Overflow users?

hah

437

A lot. An absurd amount. More than you think you are capable of. In fact, asking a question on Stack Overflow is the absolute last thing you ever want to do. You want to avoid it at all costs. You want to think of it as a horrible shame1 that will forever haunt you and pass down from you to your ...

:D

Although, I guess then you just get stuff like "I made this website and I can't make it responsive. I tried all what I learnt."

user315433

@TravisJ The answer to that question is "everything".

If everything doesn't work, then there is nothing left for me to do.

user315433

8:17 PM

Please help! thanks in advance.

tanks in advancing

@Alex you're so 2012. It's "thanks in advice" now

yeah @Alex. jeez

user315433

Perfectly normal latency. :( for two days in a row, I might add.

user315433

8:26 PM

Extra twist: the API is called from Google Apps Script, which has its execution time limited to 6 seconds.

Are you calculating the heat death of the universe?

"Dear Stack Overflow, I'm trying to calculate the heat death of the universe. Thanks in advice."

8:52 PM

Challenge: write a question that equally deserves all close reasons

9:04 PM

@jadarnel27 nsfw: pastebin.com/6SxEa0ss

If I missed one let me know. I tried to get the off topic ones too.

Close reason != flag. That said, great job.

Too much? Sorry, wasn't made to offend.

Nah, chillax... Smokey would be happy to report that post too. So, bonus point :p

:D

safer version without flags :) pastebin.com/vRRW393s

user315433

9:25 PM

Speaking of Smokey, he found this gem:

user315433

> as long as charcoal teeth whitening you can.

user315433

Possible reference to Charcoal, or a really innovative idea.

That would be like making a sun shade out of a magnifying glass.

Again I'm almost tricked by an SE employee without a diamond ... is this on purpose or what ;)

bluefeet

it's all part of our master plan to trick and confuse @rene

9:41 PM

Thought so ... :(

bluefeet

conspiracies everywhere

user315433

> Easy stackoverflow cred: go to top questions for different outdated languages, and post an updated answer for the new lang (eg objc-> swift) -- Josh Singer at 2:44 PM - 27 Jul 2017

user315433

Um, are swift answers welcome under objc questions?

@TravisJ hahahaha. I don't think anyone's going to outdo that.

;)

9:49 PM

Well played.

@Alex only one way to test. I have one problem: no swift nor ObjC knowledge.

It is simply a collection of parts of posts that I have had to deal with at some point.

@rene I wish I had no ObjC knowledge. It still h. hau..... haunts me.

user315433

Maybe if it's Swift 2.0. But Swift 1.2 answers on any questions are practically worthless, and provides negative value. — Claus Jørgensen Aug 27 '15 at 15:43

user315433

Update: "maybe if it's Swift 3. Swift 2 answers are worthless"