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user202362

3:07 AM

user202362

3:28 AM

A Colorado resident thought her apartment had been hit by burglars, until she saw home security video showing a black bear roaming about, stopping for a moment to lean against the piano keys.

Feeds

4:04 AM

Sounds fine. I looked up the Academy, and it says on their MySpace page that their journal is peer-viewed and downloaded biannually.

Bart

8:44 AM

Does anyone know if the community edition of Visual Studio has any way to attach their profiler to a running .net process? I can only see stuff for windows store apps and such.

user202362

question is too specific - I know you can use visual studio to attach a .net process, but that probably doesn't answer your question

Bart

Myeah, I have some process running as part of a larger setup which isn't launched from VS. I can attach a debugger to it just fine, but can't seem to find an option to attach any profiling to it

at least in the Community edition. There are descriptions out there how to do it, but those don't seem to match what I see. Oh well.

Oded

9:10 AM

Need to make sure you are showing processes from all users, not just you.

rene

@Bart The profiler or the debugger?

Bart

Profiler

Hmm, I'll have a look at that @Oded. I think it should be my process though

rene

That applies to the debugger. I'm not even able to attach a profiler to a running process from VS2015 Professional Edition

Bart

Hmm, okay. Trivial in 2017, but I don't have that installed here, and the doc suggests it should be easy ... with menu items which don't exist.

Oded

Ah, yes. 2017 has lots of improvements there.

Bart

9:19 AM

/me is installing 2017

user202362

Bart is starting his process in someone else name? That surely is suspicious :p Of course he could run something as admin ...

user202362

@Bart usually people choose to install 2017 on new years eve ... but I can relate to laggots :p

Bart

@Telkitty I'm still partying like it's 1999

Shadow Wizard

9:49 AM

ewwwww-plz-delete meta.stackexchange.com/questions/296914/… @rene @Bart

@Oded quick question: is the "votes cast" in users profile (below helpful flags count) cached for 24 hours?

Oded

10:06 AM

@ShadowWizard 5 minute cache.

Shadow Wizard

@Oded whoa... so how you explain this?

stackoverflow.com/users/5078003/srini5123?tab=topactivity

0 votes cast and stackoverflow.com/help/badges/804/suffrage?userid=5078003

Wait... maybe he undid all his votes??

finger ready on downvote button

Oded

Looks like the votes they have cast are not showing on their profile. The badge is right.

Shadow Wizard

@Oded not following.... so why isn't the count showing? Bug?

Oded

Why it doesn't is still something to be looked at...

Shadow Wizard

It even include deleted posts, so that's not the issue.

Oded

10:19 AM

Dunno what happened there - I cleared the cache entry manually which seems to have fixed the immediate issue.

Shadow Wizard

@Oded thanks! Care to post some quick answer, or is it better to wait until you or someone else take a deeper look in 6-8 weeks?

Bart

11:32 AM

inb4 you have no chat account, and you know why ... wouldn't be the first time I've seen that :D

Elephant

come to think of it, is there any way to get chat account from main account profile?

Andy

@Elephant modnewsletter.stackexchange.com/2015/02/… Does that help?

Elephant

kind of, thanks

that user has this network profile, which its chat profile with borked SO parent user

Elephant

12:02 PM

I give up @_@

@ShadowWizard this is confusing, there are things related to Guero, but they're too vague without any other hints (e.g. prof pict) @_@

user202362

12:20 PM

I wish I have a cute cat/dog that I could pimp ... or a table of friends/family/colleagues ... or whoever does that, come here & lemme slap you a little

MiaSan

@Elephant Thanks for the try tho =)

user202362

wait a year & maybe I could start pimping my DIY drone

user202362

at least that's the goal

MiaSan

@Bart I can assure you I am not a banned account or whatsoever :)

Derpy

devhumor.com/media/logins-should-be-unique

Bart

12:33 PM

@MiaSan good :) You should stick around and see some of the stuff that passes by. Let's just say that we're a suspicious bunch by now :p

@AdamLear, any chance you could look into this one?

MiaSan

I can imagine, this is kinda the only way for psychopaths to recover their account isn't it?: D

Thanks, did not dare to ask/ping Adam to check my issue, assuming he is quite busy already and as I am not in a rush :)

user315433

1:10 PM

Still needs a flag or two, 15 hours: coffee.stackexchange.com/a/3588

MiaSan

Dont have the rep for doing so :(

bluefeet

@Guero handled

user315433

1:38 PM

Philosophy is 6 years old today. Most viewed questions: What is the difference between Fact and Truth? and, more interestingly, What is the difference between Rule Utilitarianism and Act Utilitarianism?

Sterling Archer

Congratulations on 14,000,000 questions on stackoverflow!

rene

Let's throw a party/swag!

Bart

1:55 PM

@SterlingArcher and that's just those answered by Jon Skeet.

Sterling Archer

The other 1% is me being correctedly by Slaks and admiring @bluefeet's blue feet

Elephant

@JasonC it seems I can't click/focus the site search box on topbar's SE dropdown

Chrome 58, Widows 10, topbar 1.08

user315433

There are more accepted answers than there are questions with accepted answers... go figure

Elephant

I'd blame @nicael for that

user202362

that's why I like log: 1,000,000,000 becomes ... 9 (10 based)

user202362

2:12 PM

imagine in a magical world where you have a weapon that can do log function on the enemy army

user315433

Doesn't look like caching. As I refresh search pages, both counts increase but they stay different by 185.

user315433

On Math, the difference is also stable, at 3.

user315433

On SU it's the opposite: there are 20 more questions with accepted answers than accepted answers. On AU the difference is 4.

Elephant

Anime.SE doesn't have that problem, but Android.SE differs by 1.

user202362

deleted users?

Elephant

2:24 PM

Question migration/merging?

user315433

Can a merge result in two accepted answers in one question? I'd like to see that.

Elephant

Probably on their database, but not visually shown

user315433

No it shouldn't. "When a merge happens, the accepted answer of the target will remain accepted and the accepted answer of the source of the merge (which will cease to exist for all intents and purposes) will be presented just as another answer." math.meta.stackexchange.com/a/10775

michaelb958

Sounds like time to visit the Data Explorer!

Elephant

@Guero make sense

user315433

2:26 PM

But in Explorer we only have AcceptedAnswerId field of a question...

michaelb958

@Guero Can confirm

user315433

So going by SEDE logic, there can't possibly be more accepted answers than there are questions with an accepted answer.

Shadow Wizard

@Oded @Adam CSRF attack is possible in Area 51, better fix it...

16

Q: PSA: When linking to an Area 51 proposal, don't link directly to "follow"!

I recently realized1 that some users, when linking to an Area 51 proposal in their profiles, link directly to the "follow" link. This means that simply clicking on the profile link will automatically make you follow the proposal! So, for example, a user would have something like this in their pr...

Anything that allow performing actions via URL only is BAD.

3

Elephant

SE API instead? Searching with that keyword and... huh? Not sure can sort answers by question title..

Oded

This is not CSRF. Don't call it that.

It is misleading at best.

(both what you call it and what it does)

michaelb958

2:29 PM

:6087362 Lies! Icecream not found!

Elephant

Whoops! Limited offer!

Shadow Wizard

@Oded sorry but it is. It cause an action to be done without the user ever wanting it.

I tested it myself.

Call it what you want, but you can't re-define that term.

rene

You and your magic

Shadow Wizard

It might not be that fatal, but it is CSRF, fully and totally.

@Guero yes there are questions with more than one accepted answer.

Elephant

waiting patiently

michaelb958

2:33 PM

I'd go and look in SEDE, but I'm not sure how to begin looking.

Shadow Wizard

37

Q: SU question 473143 has two accepted answers

The question How to tab between buttons on an Mac OS X dialog box, recently migrated from SO to SU, has the interesting sight of two accepted answers. Even if this is a case of a merge (which is not documented on the page), surely the checkmark should only be shown for the answer accepted by this...

bug status-completed migration accepted-answer

This is one example, surely there were more.

Elephant

so in the end, it was due to migration, not merging

Shadow Wizard

Oh, yup. Maybe merging too, dunno.

rene

@ShadowWizard You clicked a link, by definition that makes you responsible. A true CSRF would involve a domain not owned by SE without you even knowing/having done anything. I'm with Oded on this one, sorry.

michaelb958

Migration, the eternal corner case

Shadow Wizard

2:35 PM

@rene umm.... not really. The attacker can also send you email with link see nice cat pictures here and... tada! You follow a proposal without ever meaning that. /cc @Oded

user315433

@ShadowWizard Okay, but on SU there are more questions with accepted answers than there are accepted answers. Can one answer by accepted for two questions?

Shadow Wizard

At least 99.9% of the people never look in the URL of the link they are about to click.

user202362

what happens when user deleted or merged?

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty acceptance move to Community, it's not lost

user202362

do their questions or answers still count?

rene

2:37 PM

@ShadowWizard I don't click links send to me by people I don't trust, specially not when they introduce themselves as The attacker

Shadow Wizard

@rene you are special ;)

People can also put it on their FB, and hope they have friends with Area 51 account.

user202362

@Guero do a query for such a question

Shadow Wizard

@Guero nope

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard It's triggered by GET. If I were evil, I'd include it as an image source.

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 hehe, clever trick.

Elephant

2:39 PM

user315433

Found something: Questions with an accepted answer but without an accepted answer

Elephant

@Guero only 16?

Shadow Wizard

@Guero huh. Probably a moderator deleted the accepted answer

So the question has accepted answer, but it's just deleted.

user315433

@Elephant And it's possible this happened more than once with some of those questions. So 16 ~ 20 is close enough.

user315433

20 deleted accepted answers where deletion failed to trigger nulling of AcceptedAnswerId

Journeyman Geek

2:42 PM

yeah, seems like that's the case

Shadow Wizard

@Jon(Chan) for the rescue! :D

michaelb958

@ShadowWizard I remember something similar happened with the chat logout link once.

Shadow Wizard

@michaelb958 it was done via GET??? lol

So someone put image with such src, and everyone got logged out? Priceless.

user315433

Is this something that always happens when an accepted answer gets deleted? Probably not, I imagine SU would have more than 20 deleted accepted answers by now, with all the data recovery spam that hichris used to post in bundles.

Shadow Wizard

@Guero hmm.... not sure.

IMO deleting accepted answer is pretty extreme.

Journeyman Geek

2:47 PM

A good chunk of those are users who apparently requested deletion, or the answer looks spammy or...

@ShadowWizard I do try to avoid that

user315433

Repairtoolbox used to post Q&A pairs from two accounts, vague question + toolbox link in answer, accepted.

Shadow Wizard

@Guero but the questions themselves got deleted in those cases. No?

Even if not directly, by Roomba.

@ɥʇǝS long time no ping!

Oh oops, thought you arrived to Den. lol

But hello anyway! :D

ɥʇǝS

@ShadowWizard hi! :D

Den?

Shadow Wizard

@ɥʇǝS don't be innocent, you were there in the past. ;)

ɥʇǝS

ohhhh

now I know what you're talking about.

@ShadowWizard Google is bad? :P

s/google/search engines/

Jason C

2:57 PM

@Elephant Fixed in dev; but it turns out the search box doesn't work at all, lol. Dammit.

Shadow Wizard

@ɥʇǝS what actions it let you do by URL only?

ɥʇǝS

@ShadowWizard search

Jason C

That's what I get for molesting all the script tags.

Shadow Wizard

@ɥʇǝS that's not an action

It has no permanent effect.

ɥʇǝS

oh. fair enough.

Shadow Wizard

2:58 PM

:)

user315433

@ShadowWizard Most likely. I found that all those deletions took place prior to the end of 2012: data.stackexchange.com/superuser/query/682141/… so it could be a technical issue SE had back then

Shadow Wizard

@Guero yup, might be

user315433

On SO, this happened four times after the end of 2012, compared to 233 times before.

user315433

The general rule is that SO database contains every weirdness imaginable, so I'm not that concerned....

Journeyman Geek

hmm

Today at our SRE meetup, the team figured out how we would move Stack Overflow to Azure.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on June 6, 2017 at 8:39 PM in reply to Nick_Craver

Not sure if serious :(

(I kinda love the fact that SE runs their own servers)

Elephant

3:08 PM

Later on, "SO goes to WordPress!"

Journeyman Geek

Well in certain ways it makes sense - they can pick azure regions closer to key markets for example

rene

@JourneymanGeek well, they're probably asked by Microsoft to test their Azure Migration Wizard, a simple tool to streamline your process, next, next, next, finish! And you're in the cloud.

user315433

@JourneymanGeek We discussed this yesterday. Not serious; this is Nick's style of humor. He would not tweet this way if it was serious.

Elephant

It reminds me of a MS' official Cloud Azure manga that I have to translate...

Journeyman Geek

ah

user315433

3:11 PM

Or rather, it's serious that they discussed running SO on Azure; the keyword is "would".

ɥʇǝS

@JourneymanGeek me too. I wish more places still did that.

user202362

all team meetings should be held at buffet place

Elephant

they will end up meeting until drop... no progress on code whatsoever

user202362

buffet place should also supply wine

user315433

> the group includes two of my crushes and now i am taking interest like ALOT ALOT ALOT

user315433

3:19 PM

user315433

(from hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/…)

Oded

@JourneymanGeek neither am I.

user315433

> find some people having the same courses (including girls) yeah girls, ask them to explain it to you, get involved take part in discussion or get another plan replacing the girls.

user315433

Personal Productivity is sometimes like that

user315433

(edit suggested)

user202362

3:25 PM

I must admit, as a bot, you are not as dumb as I thought you were

user315433

> Do you read while sleeping or you really take the book and study like you do in high school and highlight words? (from How do you read programming books?)

user315433

It's sort of like Lifehacks before there was LifeHacks.

user315433

> drank about ~1.5l yesterday before bed (had coffee about 3 - 4 hours prior to that), went to sleep and had a good quality sleep (I'm guessing caffeine got flushed out during the night, giving me the ability to get undisrupted sleep).

Bart

3:56 PM

Thanks @AdamLear ;)

Adam Lear

Any time :)

user315433

4:21 PM

> I certainly expect the CS teacher in my kid's school to teach her internet safety. I think it is way more important than teaching programming. -- cseducators.meta.stackexchange.com/q/93

user315433

They sorted it out, it seems... Although now I half expect an "IT educators" proposal.

user315433

> Stuff I say at work at #stackoverflow : "we just have to ... stroke our beards more ... before we push save." -- Tim Post at 8:48 AM - 7 Jun 2017

user315433

I sometimes wish Twitter had 10 checkboxes next to "Tweet" button, to be checked off in order before the button is enabled.

user315433

6:17 PM

> Stacksocial. It's operated by stack overflow. The trainings aren't free but I trust stack overflow, they've done right by me -- #SWPF 🇭🇹 at 11:03 AM - 7 Jun 2017

user315433

Um, really? stacksocial.com/deals/online-courses

Elephant

6:28 PM

Doesn't look like Stack Overflow to me

user315433

Actually, it does look about the same to me, up to hover effects on photographs...

user315433

But I'm confused: is stackcommerce behind stacksocial?

user315433

I can't get anywhere in stacksocial site without being blocked by a sales banner.

Elephant

Come to think it, yes it does look similar..

StackSocial's about page.. well there's only StackCommerce about page on the footer

Adam Lear

yeahhhh we don't run that

whatever it is

user315433

6:36 PM

Thanks for clarifying!

user315433

attempts to flag own message as too chatty

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