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1:05 AM

Is there a CM available?

I'm dealing with a situation where an unknown user is flagging messages in the Mathematics in an apparently targeted fashion.

We got two flags on posts solely because they contained "s---", even though they not be reasonably seen as offensive.

Jason C

Ping shog, jonericson, bluefeet, or adamlear

I haven't seen any of them around in a while

bwDraco

in Mathematics on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 21 mins ago, by bwDraco

Why is somebody digging through the transcript to flag messages containing "s---" posted by @TheGreatDuck?

in Mathematics on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 21 mins ago, by bwDraco

http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/37544446#37544446, http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/37554253#37554253

@Shog9, @bluefeet, @AdamLear, @JonEricson: Can somebody look into some suspicious and anomalous flagging behavior in the Mathematics chatroom? The moderators are unable to determine what's going on

Shog9

5:14 AM

5 messages deleted

@bwDraco left a note there.

bwDraco

Great, thanks.

Elephant

impending drama over there?

Elephant

6:08 AM

Double conflicting status tags not confusing enough. — bjb568 May 11 '14 at 2:10

Jason C

6:31 AM

→ 14 messages moved to Chimney

user202362

@shog I have a question, why aren't more 1337 tr011s visiting tavern ...

Jason C

Woohoo, victory:

I think stackapps.com/questions/7404/top-bar-for-chat-rooms might be finished. Although I kind of want to add a chat server switcher dropdown.

And I still haven't figured out how to get it to work on Firefox.

Elephant

@JasonC the "use chat room theme" is interesting, but definitely not on MSE

Jason C

I kinda like it on mse with the brightness up

I'm thinking I should probably make that setting per-room instead of global though

Elephant

low contrast to the icons though

(to each of their own)

Jason C

6:45 AM

Yeah; you can slide the brightness slider to the right it'll brighten them up, but, yeah, it's a pain. The brightness adjust was the best I could come up with.

Elephant

oh, heck, I just noticed that brightness slider lol

Jason C

Lol

It's annoying though apparently it's all or nothing for the brightness, so it messes with the hover highlights and indicators too. Oh well.

Shadow Wizard

7:24 AM

@Gerry hmm.... pretty sure it used to reset before and now it's not, i.e. if before the change you tried to flag again after 3 seconds, you had to wait 5 more seconds. Now you need to wait "only" 2.

That's also a big change.

Derpy

10:00 AM

^ @JNat @Oded Probably better to nuke the user account too, the profile is basically advertising/spamming

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy no need to call the cavalry, it's not a heavy spammer, and only on one site. There are thousands of users with spam in their about me field.

I prefer to call JNat only for the heavy or cross site spammers/trolls.

Derpy

so.... he spams about traveling packages (on meta), his profile info advertise that he sells traveling packages and he links to a tourism package selling site in the "site link" field. You tell me that the account wasn't just made to advertise traveling packages selling?

Shadow Wizard

10:30 AM

@Derpy of course it was. But as long it's a single spam post, we can handle this ourselves. And since user profiles are not indexed by search engines, it's not relevant that they have spammy profile.

If we'll call SE team for any spam post, they will just stop answering our calls here.

Derpy

10:43 AM

@ShadowWizard a good argument to make some automated "delete users when deleting spam if user only posted spam" feature then.

Shadow Wizard

10:59 AM

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Q: Auto-delete/destroy 1 rep user when their post is deleted as spam

My common workflow when I see a blatant spam post by a 1 rep user is: flag as spam (when I'm a mod this auto-deletes) go to user profile As a mod, I destroy the user. As a regular user I spam flag the other spam posts linked from the profile These are a bit more clicks than absolutely necessa...

Gallifreyan

11:47 AM

A question got around the non-English title check for the HNQ:

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Q: Posso usare "quelli" per dire di parole che cominciano in st?

Ho un problema. La mia professoressa dice che dire "quelli stivali" è corretto. Dice che si può dire anche quegli stivali, ma io non sono sicuro, credo soltanto di "quegli stivali", e non "quelli stivali". Perchè stivali comincia con st, e non si può usare l'articolo "i". Si può usare quelli per ...

word-usage word-meaning word-choice

Shadow Wizard

@Gallifreyan it's not just title, and I don't think that site is included in the "do not show in HNQ" filter.

So no bug there.

It's 100% the same as:

13

Q: es.SO questions aren't excluded from the Hot Questions list

As figured out in this post localized SE sites must not be displayed in the HNQ's. But es.SO actually is. Has to be fixed I guess?

bug status-completed hot-questions sidebar

Gallifreyan

@ShadowWizard I thought the check ran on every question's title, regardless of the site.

Do we need a feature request to enable the check for this site?

6

A: Hot Questions English Filter Broken

It's working. Neither Italian nor Spanish sites are intentionally omitted - those sites are for English speakers who are learning those languages, so there's no expectation that these aren't of interest because the titles are guaranteed to be in a different language. Russian Stack Overflow was...

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC Its a ~~DUKW~~ Duck

Shadow Wizard

@Gallifreyan yup, Adam or other dev need to flip the relevant site setting on.

@Gallifreyan nope, as said here:

> only applies to certain sites, like german, judaism, and japanese

Gallifreyan

12:04 PM

@ShadowWizard Heh, now it's gone from HNQ

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Shadow Wizard

Weird

Gallifreyan

I guess someone had already reported it and someone had flipped the switch.

JNat

@Derpy Oded got it

Derpy

12:20 PM

@JNat thanks. BTW, since @ShadowWizard brought it up... do you prefer to be warned of such "minor spammers" accounts too or prefer to be called in only for mayor spammer activities?

JNat

Probably the latter. Most of the minor ones can generally be handled by the community. It's usually cross-site stuff that is best (and fast) handled by us.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy major

Derpy

1:17 PM

@ShadowWizard politician

Elephant

95% of my answers on anime.se consists of googling and translating. I know nothing of the said manga/anime

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy corrupted

@Elephant same goes for 95% of SO users

user202362

@JourneymanGeek don't misspell Duke of Edinburgh as Duck of Edinburgh

Elephant

1:35 PM

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty can be worse, e.g. "i" instead of "u"

Derpy

1:55 PM

@ShadowWizard file

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy affidavit

user315433

I’m Stack Overflow’s COO—Here’s How To Hire (And Keep) Great Developers

user315433

The top image is weird.

Derpy

@ShadowWizard evidence

Elephant

@Shadow @Derpy go back to your Den :p

@Gerry the real meaning of watermarking

Shadow Wizard

2:09 PM

@Elephant I am there, @Derpy is... not. D:

Derpy

@Elephant this is called "advertising"

user202362

Does COO == CO2 (Carbon Dioxide)?

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty no, though since companies need them like air to breathe, it's a nice try

user315433

CO2 doesn't help one breathe, really

Derpy

@Gerry Just because you still haven't learned the "photosynthesis" passive skill like @sha has.

ask @rene if you are interested.

user202362

2:17 PM

but if you have a bunch of vegetables as developers, then CO2 would be great:

user202362

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty lol... reminds me, couple of days ago a satiric TV show interviewed a flower pot, asking it questions, when a minister refused to arrive, knowing he will be mocked.

It was funny as hell.

Derpy

@Telkitty well, some company already seem to think developers are mushrooms...

Shadow Wizard

גב האומה - ראיון עם שר התקשורת איוב קרא

►

Derpy

@Telkitty also remember that MOSS is also another name for SharePoint.

Shadow Wizard

2:25 PM

See in 03:45, he brings the flower and starts interviewing it ^^

Jason C

2:38 PM

@Shog9 @TimStone Is there any API exposed for creating topbar-dialog style dropdowns? Or at least for managing their position and visibility if I create one by hand? I've been poking around through the StackExchange object but haven't uncovered anything, except some internal code for loading them that isn't readily accessible externally.

Right now for settings dialogs and stuff I'm just injecting jQuery UI into the page and using that but it doesn't match SE's dropdown themes well.

Feeds

3:11 PM

On the other hand, as far as they know, my system is working perfectly.

user202362

I bought another drone, I am going to join a drone club with it and learn how to make DIY drones

user202362

I volunteer my chicken to taken down drones, she displayed great enthusiasm when fighting a toy plane of mine after it crashed

Elephant

@Feeds Where did you learn to fly?

user202362

the problem is ... of course ... chickens can't fly very high, they need to wait for the drones to crash in order to fight those drones

Elephant

I thought your chicken would take a ride.. or something

user202362

3:22 PM

chicken thought plane was another bird invading her territory

Jason C

4:37 PM

→ 1 message moved to Chimney

rene

@Derpy :)

rene

5:03 PM

In the plainer English version it is much clearer that you are f****d ...

Feeds

5:38 PM

El estado de Stack Overflow en español: Mayo 2017

Juan M on June 05, 2017

Llego la hora de compartir unos numeritos con ustedes sobre el sitio. Tenemos una buena discusión sobre otras estadísticas que pueden discutir aquí. Este aporte es para darles un vistazo a lo que los usuarios han realizado en el mes de mayo.

¡Espero y lo disfruten!

PaperBirdMaster – 4 medallas

Dev. Joel – 3 medallas

fwBasic – 3 medallas

Flxtr – 3 medallas

Rubén – 3 medallas

Jorge Arturo Juarez – 3 medallas

omaza1990 – 42 preguntas

Eduardo Méndez – 36 preguntas …

Elephant

6:03 PM

@Feeds ごめん、理解できない

user315433

6:15 PM

Bioinformatics "made it": there is an accepting nominations thread.

rene

What is this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/296819/… that is a dupe, right?

user315433

Kind of unclear what the post is for, so -1, whatever

user315433

Low activity users don't jump on new questions as they appear... you don't say.

user315433

6:50 PM

Why should not disassociation be added as an option for users to invoke themselves? Say, on positively scored posts only, to avoid the situation with getting out of post ban. Or on all posts, with behind-the-scenes those posts still count toward bans.

Shadow Wizard

@rene dupe of dupe of dupes.... kind of.... clear what they're "asking", but as I told in a comment now, they miss the point. SE is not about getting answers to be accepted faster.

@Gerry disassociation should be kept as extreme measure IMO, not be made accessible easily.

Just my feeling, it feels wrong to let someone post something then go away without anyone being able to know who posted.

It's fine sometimes, here and there, but not as something common.

Maybe make it clearer you can request such a thing with a flag, but not more than that.

user315433

I can post from a throw-away account any time, for any reason. (And did this many times)

Shadow Wizard

@Gerry I know you did and can, but you're... special. :)

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