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12:09 AM
 
Ah yes, the University of California, Hicago campus.
 
Columns: US News ranking, % acceptance, student:teacher, ACT 75th percentile, % in top decile of high school class, population, Carnegie Classification emphasis on Arts & Sciences, CC relative number of grad students, CC how residential it is, state, public school, deadlines.
Now I just need to go visit a bunch of them…
 
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user315433
12:27 AM
@bjb568 Why, are you already accepted to all of them?
 
No, you're supposed to visit before you apply.
Some schools even give you a boost for going on a tour (it's called demonstrated interest).
 
user315433
Really? Visiting is more effort than applying.
 
It seems like they want you to put in effort.
 
user315433
"No effort shown" is a typical reason to close an applicant's file.
 
Ah, but I haven't even started with the essays yet.
I probably should early in the summer.
 
user315433
12:35 AM
I don't know anything particularly good about USC, but maybe it's me
 
user315433
Why no Harvard?
 
Meh, it hasn't escaped the elite white boy ethos for me.
 
What about Georgia Tech
Btw you should open all your essays with "i want a writ essays you cant even accept this"
 
user315433
12:51 AM
but not spam
 
@JasonC I dunno if I want to go to Georgia for school.
Actually, it looks pretty good, I'll add it to the list.
 
1:11 AM
@bjb568 considering the south? consider mosquitoes, hot-gnats (aka no-see-ems), horse-flies, yellow-flies, hurricanes, and tornadoes...
 
Sounds fun.
 
user315433
Not to mention human inhabitants of the state of Georgia.
 
My dad would come inside from his make-work chores complaining that the bugs were trying to carry him away.
 
Sounds skary.
 
Think Starship Troopers but more blood and guts (on your exposed skin...)
Unless you've got a radar/AI/laser that's going to zap them - I bet everyone down south could get behind an Ender's Game analogy...
 
1:48 AM
It's so bad the counties go scorched Earth - driving trucks up and down the roads spewing out clouds of pesticides...
 
user315433
1:59 AM
My first job offer was from a university in Georgia, near Savannah. That was a memorable visit. Nice place in some ways, but I didn't take the job.
 
user202362
My first professional job was a casual TA position in a UC university
 
user202362
My second white collar job was some part time programming work while still doing undergrad
 
user202362
then it gone down the hill until ... started becoming a tiny landlady
 
user202362
then I have found out that becoming a medium large sized landlady is actually my ultimate dream job
 
user202362
On the facet, I run my own app company, but that's not the real money comes front
 
user315433
2:23 AM
I flagged as spam first, then wanted to change that to rude/abusive but... can't do that. The flags are really considered as one. Retracting one does not allow for casting the other.
 
@Telkitty yay for collecting rent...
@Gerry what was the position
 
user315433
Assistant Professor (math), tenure-track
 
user202362
first job offer is an assistant professor already, don't have to go through the lecturer hoop?
 
user202362
gee, so easy to become a professor in the US
 
That's usually how it works for newly minted PhDs, unless they do a post-doc somewhere... go on the "job market", network with schools (usually at or below the level of the school awarding the degree, unless you're a rising star) at a bunch of college towns usually (beggars can't be choosers) - then if you're tenure track, you have so many years to produce some publications at minimally acceptable journals, and you might be fired and possibly another try at a lesser institution.
 
user315433
2:39 AM
Okay, I meant first offer when looking for tenure-track jobs... I did have a postdoc before that.
 
postdoc just delays the "market search", though, right?
With opportunities to buff your star...
 
user315433
Well, in math one is unlikely to be hired by a research-oriented department for a t-t position right out of PhD.
 
user315433
It happens, but is not the norm.
 
user202362
I noticed that in the US, it's much easier to become a professor than say, in China or Australia. In Australia, each department only has 1-2 professor(s), most others are lecturers
 
well, they might call you "professor" even if you're just a lecturer.
Research-1 uni's still rely heavily on PhD students and adjuncts...
 
user315433
2:46 AM
There's a difference in naming. A Lecturer in UK may be an equivalent of Assistant/Associate Professor in the States.
 
I would consider a "non Lecturer" prof one who is hired to perform research with the expectation of publication (and they might still lecture, but probably hate it and rely heavily on graders and teaching assistants).
 
user315433
So if I don't hate teaching, I'm not a real professor? :/
 
user315433
The last time I had a teaching assistant was Spring 2014... last time I had a grader... probably 2007.
 
user202362
genius prefers research, interesting researches ...
 
@Gerry no, but other research profs will say they admire you in a condescending sort of way... :D
 
user202362
2:54 AM
My dad was a lecturer in China when he first got out of Uni. He tells everyone that he used to be a teacher ... in the university
 
user202362
@AaronHall usually research funds are ready available for Computer Science or Engineering departments, not maths :p
 
user202362
So I guess if you are maths professor, you don't get to do funded research a lot >_<
 
At a very customer service oriented school I taught business at (for college credit) they wanted me to call myself a "teacher" - probably because they also taught a lot of remedial courses, and as a matter of strategy (i.e. lots of reasons I can speculate on that are probably correct but aren't flattering to lay out) decided to call all their instructors "teachers".
(That school is no longer in business.)
 
user315433
Good to hear that.
 
user202362
I always thought my dad called himself a 'teacher' out of humbleness. He did do research project(s) and had to travel to another city quite often.
 
user315433
3:02 AM
Gerry University will no longer have any "lecturer" type titles; those whose duties do not involve research will be called Teaching x Professors (where x in {"Assistant", "Associate", ""})
 
user315433
Which further shows that whether one's title includes the word "professor" or not matters little, especially in the U.S.
 
user315433
In any case, we're all going to be replaced by online tutorials.
 
(I had a student at that school that tried to hand in a completely off-topic paper, probably used for another class, even though I gave them all a perfectly serviceable outline that should have made the assignment easy as pie. I reported it to the dean. The guy just smiled and changed the subject.)
@Gerry distance learning is fine - but students do report learning less than in-person at a brick-and-mortar.
 
user202362
nah, I can testify that as a past student, people still would like to go to a physical uni - because socializing is as important part of college as learning itself
 
user202362
most people are like ants & ants don't work/learn alone
 
3:17 AM
@Telkitty that probably made people think he was an excellent teacher. Some countries make titles a matter of law, though. In the USA I could call myself "esquire" (as long as I don't otherwise look like I'm holding myself out as an attorney).
 
3:37 AM
@AaronHall some people do better with structure - In my case, it also depends on whether I'm actually interested ._.
 
Fair enough.
 
4:07 AM
Googling for problems and finding a site with ME asking the same question years ago...and still no answer https://t.co/82eAHWHMPP
@AaronHall but you can't call yourself in engineer in Oregon.
 
Hmmm... :/
 
Thankfully Oregon seems to be the insane exception. Titles as a matter of law get messy real fast.
 
user202362
human society is sad ... like ants - worker ants are just workers ... classified - feral CEOs in big corp can make millions a year while losing the company multi-million a year
 
5:44 AM
@Telkitty In defense of the poor CEO - I doubt they were raised with wolves. I aspire to the C-suite, and my mother always insisted that she did not raise me in a barn.
 
5:55 AM
Elephant goes moo.
 
boo
 
Elephant got scared.
 
6:37 AM
@Elephant cannot call himself cow in Oregon
 
 
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7:53 AM
https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/273727/test-the-new-mobile-chat
Test the new mobile chat! - Meta Stack Exchange
Testing searching and sharing with Gboard
Hmm... Good enough
 
Yeah, new as in the new new top bar
Looks like I trolled @sha ...
 
8:47 AM
STarted applying for jobs again.
 
@JourneymanGeek oh, is it that bad?
 
@rene yeah, its that bad
 
Bummer
 
I basically have users without systems, a shelf full of systems I can't use because its needed for "something"....
also, my new IT manager/boss broke our NAS on friday, was supposed to come back on sat to fix it, and... didn't
I worked sat (eh, I need to work one sat as per my contract)
And for the first time ever I feel like a job might burn me out
 
That sounds indeed as time to pack your stuff and move on ...
Don't forget to submit your stories to TheDailyWTF
 
8:51 AM
Yeah, but considering I was mostly unemployed for the last year, I figure I'll get a new job first (and somehow take non paid leave if I need an interview, since I'm on probation) then quit
 
that sounds as the right plan for now, don't get burned out too much though ...
 
Dosen't feel easy. Its been 4 weeks.
and lol. Part of me is wondering if its me, stockholm syndrome I guess?
 
Yeah, well. If it doesn't feel right, it probably isn't. If you tried but it didn't improve or your concern isn't recognized then don't keep pushing, you'll probably loose.
 
Lemme give you an example
One of the front desk staff was having trouble with her PC, so someone assigned her a laptop...
she's leaving, and I was first told to move her desktop to a new staffer. Then I was told to move it back, and hand her laptop to the new staff... THEN I was told that laptop was to be passed to another staff member who's going to the other place we rented...
and these rented classrooms are killing me
Since I need to set up and tear down every day since we're renting the classrooms and not the projectors...
and I'm going in at 8am to handle it, and am somehow expected to do OT for no apparent reason (my hours were 10am - 7pm, but I asked for them to be adjusted cause I was getting calls at 8am to handle it, and I can't leave equipment in the classroom, and they need some set up. Also the teachers are part timers so its not like I can leave post its on em)
Yeah, I'm applying for jobs again ;p
Kinda tempted to apply for the SRE role at SE that seems open, but I don't think I'm good enough at this point (especially with the programming bits) :(
 
9:17 AM
@rene :(
 
@JourneymanGeek That kind-of sucks, yes. Totally understandable you're leaving that place.
 
@rene oh, I'm applying for work first
 
@ShadowWizard always be cautious for Dutch humor ...
 
Sadly my current career history is basically short periods in different companies due to no fault of my own, so leaving without something better (or getting asked to leave) is not an option
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah, I understand that. That seems wise.
 
9:31 AM
@rene I will try!
@JourneymanGeek you can always try... you might be surprised. :)
@Elephant you feel OK?
@Telkitty true, but on the other hand if CEO will have to pay from their own pocket when the company lose money, nobody will want to be CEO and companies will be left without proper management.
It's a known risk for the company.
 
user202362
CEO doesn't have to pay from their own pocket if the company loses money unless the CEO has misappropriated funds for personal use from the company
 
user202362
or CEO is also a shareholder
 
@Telkitty of course, that's an extreme edge case, and police should handle this, not the company. That's a criminal, and the company should then sew that person at court and demand all the money back.
(aka simple thief.)
I talk about the normal people, who do not steal money.
 
@JourneymanGeek That guy did not deserve the well-written answer you gave.
 
@JasonC Maybe, but I had fun chewing on his ankles.
 
9:41 AM
Lol
 
There's a certain amount of fun in taking a question that's borderline trollish, and taking it apart
2
 
@ShadowWizard Yes, that guy.
 
@JasonC :P
 
@ShadowWizard yes What
 
10:34 AM
@JourneymanGeek no, What is different person
Watch your case!
whoa 24 whats on SO
@rene and now time for MY humor! :D
 
You win ;)
 
11:03 AM
@ShadowWizard what?
 
34 mins ago, by Shadow Wizard
Watch your case!
 
11:25 AM
heh, Q&A spam. Classic.
 
12:17 PM
Would anyone here be willing to discuss meta.stackexchange.com/q/201584/351788 ?
It differs from the other proposal for which it was marked as a duplicate.
 
12:46 PM
@can-ned_food I actually feel the master question of that dupe chain is the most succint of the lot
Also, there's a certain assumption that people who find their way to meta at least begin to understand how meta works
 
Ah, of course. Why don't I propose changes to the open question?
I knew I was missing something.
 
@can-ned_food Sure. Maybe makes sense in theory. In practice, real humans are going to muddy the two buttons, the UX is clunky, it adds a small extra step to providing any input, and it won't get you any of the interesting information you think it will. Plus you'll have to deal with the issue of people muddying two essentially different voting systems (mains and metas w/ the extra buttons), general confusion, zillions of meta questions like "when should I thumbs up vs vote up" blah blah.
So, yeah, end of the day, really doesn't help much.
Most likely case either folks ignore the second set of buttons because it looks like noise, or they just vote the same on both sets regardless.
Also it doesn't really add any actionable information. No reader behaviors really change by separating votes, it doesn't seem to gain anything or allow us to manage information more effectively.
 
All it really does is try to make the OP feel less bad about downvotes, in which case it boils down to the same old fundamental issue: Stop caring so much about downvotes.
 
yup
I personally focus on content over per-post-scores
especially on meta
 
12:54 PM
Well, I guess a big part of discrepancy is the fact that I am more OCD with my UIs than a lot of people.
So I tend to like more fine tuning first, then ease of use later.
 
Be OCD with UX, not UI.
 
Ergo the distinction of vote collection.
 
Brb it's COFFEEEEEEE TIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEE!!!! \o/
 
Anyway, thanks for the input. I'll take it all into consideration and address future proposals to meta.stackexchange.com/q/116010/351788
 
1:35 PM
Tekeli-li, Telkitty.
 
@ShadowWizard nah, I'm fine as always~
 
user202362
1:53 PM
Tel da kitty likes canned (cat) food, yes.
 
I popped out to run some errands... came across this old thing (they use it for tourist trips.)
 
user202362
2:42 PM
what heck is this drive by cat food thing?
 
@JourneymanGeek That's absurd. I want one.
 
3:10 PM
test
 
test
 
3:26 PM
@Shog9 @TimStone I'm trying to make an inline chat client on site pages (e.g. meta.stackexchange.com) with a userscript. I've run into a dead-end on every attempt (cross-origin access control on post requests or iframe attempts, inability to post = can't get a hash for /ws-auth so no xhr or websocket interface, etc.). Before I spend any more time on this, is it completely a lost cause? Is there any strategy that can be used to communicate with chat from a different SE domain?
 
4:01 PM
@JasonC curious to know why iframe isn't working for you
Use postMessage to communicate with page?
 
@Shog9 Refused to display 'https://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/89/tavern-on-the-meta' in a frame because it set 'X-Frame-Options' to 'sameorigin'.
 
Ah
 
And for posts to https://chat.stackexchange.com/ws-auth I get a 404 with HTTPS, and an insecure endpoint error for HTTP.
I suppose I could open a chat pop-up, get the authenticated websocket url from there, and use that. But then, pop-ups all over the place. Also I feel like I'd run into some sort of unforeseen problem there because problems.
And for /chat/#/events it's No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.
I think that's all the options.
 
I think you can probably make this work by proxying requests through gm_xmlhttprequest... But I'm not at a PC & can't test.
 
that gm_xmlhttprequest should be used ^
also used in the cv-pls generator to send a cv-pls from a question on main to the SOCVR chatroom.
 
4:44 PM
Oh cool.
 
5:00 PM
Ha a mod!
 
Lol what
 
Ed just joined chat here, I desperately need a mod: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/37454893#37454893
 
HAHA YOU SUCK AT COMMENT FLAGGING
WHY DON'T YOU GO HOME AND FLAG YOURSELF, LOSER
 
ROFLOL
 
Lol, cracking myself up, as usual.
CSS is so annoying. I don't do a lot of web stuff but I feel like every time I do I end up spending inordinate amounts of time fighting with it.
It'd probably suck up less time if I was more familiar with its quirks I guess. Lack of experience and all.
 
5:07 PM
@JasonC The best thing is that the comment was not constructive / gibberish at first but the OP edited it into a very reasonable shape during the grace period. You can't retract comment flags though.
 
Lol
I'm going to start doing that just to troll people's helpful flag ratio.
 
That would be awesome
 
Do post flags cancel the post grace period?
 
Yes, I think they do or at least there is an FR on meta that it should
 
Hee hee hee hee heeeee
 
6:05 PM
What's SO funny?
 
Hm, you always know a post is going to be a win when it starts out with:
> Long time lurker first time poster. Some background information on me.
 
6:38 PM
Oh neat:
My ISP added a new actual estimate for when the tech arrives. It narrows down as the day moves on. No more pausing life for 3 hours in suspense.
Of course, it's still outside the initial range from the support call. One can only ask for so much, I suppose.
 
7:03 PM
status update:
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Lol
 
7:40 PM
@JasonC lol, we got something very similar with pizza delivery here. :D
 
 
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8:43 PM
Annnnd the cable guy got here an hour before the blue box, lol.
 
@JasonC without warning? That's not good.
You might be busy...
 
user315433
9:27 PM
Comments on SO peaked in March 2014 at 917,934. Then went down quite a bit, and never fully recovered. Was it something we said?
 
user315433
There is no CommentsWithDeleted table, so this is possibly skewed by Roomba.
 
they seem relatively stable post 2014; lots of variance
 
user315433
So it's about the same picture as for posts. The famous "peak Stack Overflow" of Spring 2014. meta.stackoverflow.com/a/320234
 
user315433
One could hope that capacity will be increased by more efficient navigation, but... you know...
 
@Gerry Btw here's a trick that saves some typing but is also hella faster.
1.7 seconds vs 9.6
 
user315433
9:36 PM
Yeah, it always feels wrong to repeat stuff for group by and order by, but then I recall I don't know any SQL so...
 
user315433
Thanks, duly noted.
 
Plus one bonus of doing it that way is it's super easy to change the interval data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/680674/…
Any of the date units work
Although
Maybe it's funky for weeks and I never noticed before.
Anyways yeah that
Oh no I think weeks are OK
Those might be xmas dips
Oh they totally are. Neat.
 
I can totally relate
 
@Gerry maybe the removal of the 5 seconds rate limit on comment flags? meta.stackexchange.com/a/238331/152859
So people started to flag much more noise comments.
 
9:49 PM
Here's something: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/680685/… dunno what its significance is though.
But posts follow a strikingly similar pattern to comments post 2014: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/680686/…
 
user315433
@ShadowWizard It's still there, and I hit it ALL THE TIME.
 
user315433
The post is about comment upvotes.
 
 
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user315433
11:31 PM
Both Geographic Information Systems and Cross Validated reached 100,000 answers this past week. The difference is that GIS produced 100K answers before getting 100K questions, while CV did this after.
 
user315433
So, 18 SE sites now have 100K answers. Only 9 have 100K questions.
 

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