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> Context here: every 5 minutes (windows we were digging on), the Stack Overflow homepage gets 63,000 hits. It appears about 60,000 are bots. twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/866643766052098049 … -- Nick Craver at 4:22 PM - 22 May 2017

user315433

So that's where that huge traffic comes from...

user202362

that's why google search results are flawed

user202362

the longer a website exist, the more click by bots it receives

user202362

and that bumps up your result ranking

user315433

1:38 AM

There are situations where I have to consider whether a comment adds something of value. And then there is Worldbuilding

user315433

Podcast #110 is out, not (yet) in the sidebar

user315433

Or maybe this is by design. They used to be tagged [company], which is the tag that makes them appear network-wide. But 109 and 110 are both tagged [community].

bjb568

@Derpy :3

Elephant

2:17 AM

It's Michael Redmond!

user202362

2:44 AM

Hypothetically, if I has been banned on a SE site and I use emulators to login and post on that site, will I get caught?

user202362

I guess the same thing can be asked for a VM

user202362

3:14 AM

@AdamLear @Oded ^^ just wondering, do VM and emulators send fake IP and machine IDs

Adam Lear

Emulators?

The straight answer to "if I've been banned and I game the system, will I get caught?" is "I sure as hell hope so"

user202362

emulators are VM for smart phones

user202362

but how can you tell if the IP and machine ID were from a VM or an emulator?

Adam Lear

Here's the thing. If you are banned for whatever reason and you want to make legitimate posts... I don't think anyone will really care? But if you're evading your ban for more shitposting... you'll get re-banned regardless of the method you use.

@Telkitty Don't know off hand, also don't care. Irrelevant for the purposes of bans/suspensions.

The fact that you're asking in the first place is suspicious to begin with. ;)

user202362

I am not banned anywhere

user202362

3:21 AM

but I like to explore grey corners of ... (real & virtual) worlds

user202362

that question came to me when I was configure an emulator, then I remember that I have used VM to test things and the IP and machine IDs are not the ones PC was using

Adam Lear

We have a number of ways we deal with abuse, so... Neither I nor @Oded are gonna hop in here and go "yeah, that's totally fine, and here are the details of our mitigation strategies" :)

user202362

you can even run a emulator on a VM

Adam Lear

you can do a lot of things :)

I'm just saying that IP hopping isn't a new strategy for site abuse. How you do it is irrelevant.

user202362

Jason C

3:32 AM

@AdamLear Does leaving threatening comments @Community count as site abuse?

Adam Lear

I mean, I think everyone should be nice even to bots, so...

Jason C

@Community I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you.

@Community Did you know that if your hand is bigger than your face, you have cancer?

smack

user202362

@AdamLear but ... what if the bots are mean to me? ~_~

user315433

Context? Could be a humorous remark on Meta.

user315433

In any case, if you wonder whether a comment should be deleted, the answer is probably yes. So flag it.

Community

3:37 AM

ಠ_ಠ

6

That cuts deep, man.

2

Journeyman Geek

erf. Feeling totally demotivated

Feels like my boss is out to get me :(

Jason C

Lol

@Community I'll fight you.

Journeyman Geek

(following yesterdays disagreement on my hours, I'm told I need to fill him in on what I do hour by hour...)

Adam Lear

@JourneymanGeek Woof. That's never good.

user315433

> Hours 40-44: filling out hourly reports for the week

Journeyman Geek

3:41 AM

@AdamLear Its not

Jason C

Community should do an AMA

user315433

Feb 3 '14 at 21:33, by Community

just remember: we're watching you mwahahahaahahaha

Journeyman Geek

@AdamLear I do 44 hours a week, I was told to come in sat, off the books and I basically told them to put it down in writing.

I got a barrage of emails complaining about my reporting.

Community

Portal - 'Still Alive'

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Journeyman Geek

(and 3 weeks in, I think I'm going to start looking for work again :( )

Jason C

3:44 AM

Ha

Journeyman Geek

that's cute ;p

Jason C

@JourneymanGeek is this a new job?

user315433

@JourneymanGeek But be sure to get some Workplace rep before you quit.

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC yes

@Gerry I ask workplace questions as aibobot.

@JasonC I got it cause I know someone who knows someone and I'm worried I'll let the guy who got me the job down. + I need a job

Jason C

Meh

Don't sacrifice your sanity just to not let the guy who got you the job down.

Journeyman Geek

3:48 AM

@JasonC and my job history as of late is spotty

lots of short jobs

user315433

Sanity is overrated.

Adam Lear

Keeping a balance between job security, referral satisfaction, and personal sanity is always the worst. :/

If the job sucks, start looking in advance? There's always the "I got something else lined up, so sayonara, suckers" type of quitting.

Journeyman Geek

yeah, that's what I'm doing

but I was applying for almost a year before and didn't really get anything serious

Adam Lear

Fingers crossed!

Jason C

"Daily vote limit reached. Try again in 20 hours." Whoops.

Haven't done that in a long time. Tomorrow's gonna be boring.

Adam Lear

4:03 AM

Guess you're gonna have to edit or something to get your thrills. ;)

user315433

> @udondan Hi, I need help with a question related to ansible, i saw your profile at stackoverflow and feel you are a expert for ansible[1/2] -- Krishna Sharma at 8:44 PM - 22 May 2017

user315433

At least it's not [1/20]

user202362

@JourneymanGeek have you tried freelancing?

user202362

4:19 AM

With the current workplace system, the only ways to win are 1) win the lottery and find your dream job that makes you satisfied for a life time. 2) become a leader sheep & 3) gain enough resources so you can live freely out of the system

user202362

Lower and middle management are not true leader sheep

user202362

2) and 3) are very few, and thus, are weirdos

user202362

so if you win the game, you become weirdos

user202362

life isn't fair, but it's fairer than you think it is

Journeyman Geek

4:36 AM

@Telkitty If I was better at selling my skills I wouldn't be here

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