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user315433

12:14 AM

So... why did both James and Monica posted answers to that question from 2011, within a few hours? (Followed by Jon)

user202362

...

user202362

because new answer to an old question would bump it up and makes it attract more attention?

user202362

seriously, has @jason hit your head with a tuna last night?

Jason C

@Telkitty So, total dead horse, and lack of response by both me and Gerry every time should be an indication that your pings are just getting annoying and your weird internal joke isn't funny. Don't ping me about it again, ever.

user202362

lol

user202362

12:21 AM

pinged you because I didn't want to talk behind your back

user202362

from now on I will promise to annoy gerry with tuna without pinging you

user315433

Community Building site reached 0.0 questions per day and disappeared from my log-log chart of sites... log(0) :-(

user315433

The newest question is dated March 24.

user315433

FR: when a site goes 24 hours without new questions, Community should post a question, generated by a Markov chain trained on existing questions on that site.

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user315433

Will keep things entertaining, and also give users something to do (e.g., close as unclear).

Jason C

12:29 AM

I was looking at site activity for failing sites the other day. I'm not convinced there isn't a pretty accurate predictor in activity patterns. I intend to investigate more. I need to get old data dumps and look at activity for previously closed sites, first. It's a bit of an intimidating amount of data to download.

user315433

Also, an incentive for them to ask a question, if they don't want to closevote Community.

Jason C

There's this pattern of constant activity decrease + the site never reaching the activity level it had within its first two weeks + a huge activity level in the first two weeks that most failing sites seem to have, which makes sense intuitively, I just need to confirm that hypothesis.

user315433

Hm, that is a feature request I could probably implement myself, using the API. Until the bot gets Q-banned, which won't take long.

Jason C

It's those sites where users had a sort of bandwagon thing going on in the proposal, but the topic either didn't have interesting content, or really only had a finite number of questions.

Kind of "feel good" YEAH LET'S DO THIS! sites with no solid core.

user202362

there is a positive correlation between me mentioning tuna and gerry's activity in the tavern

Jason C

12:32 AM

@Telkitty This is your last warning and then I'm going to start kick-muting you.

Actually no that would be harsh, I won't. But stop.

user202362

how come you never post pictures of your cats?

Jason C

@Gerry Also yes, that would be awesome, lol.

If you do that I really want to see some samples from Lifehacks.

@Telkitty I don't feel compelled to post pictures of my cats, I guess.

Although I'm pretty sure I have at least once.

user202362

Fawad

What you did on happy hour? I don't know what you use to do it.

@Telkitty I am a simple man. Saw cute puppy and starred.

user202362

I am waiting for the electrician to complete his work, it's going to take a while so I am chatting here

user202362

12:44 AM

but ... are you a simple sock?

Shog9

@JasonC dammit man, warnings are cruel. Just do it - more fun for everyone involved.

Fawad

No,I have simple socks

Shog9

Fawad needs toe socks

Fawad

:O no,no,please unsee it shog

Shog9

Too late

Jason C

12:47 AM

@Shog9 1. I get a bigger kick out of cruel, and 2. I have values, dammit. VALUES.

user315433

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Q: Is there a procedure to have a community vote on deleting one forum?

"Politics" and "Skeptics" has become a cesspool (to use a euphemism for clusterf**k) of one-sided politics advocacy. They both advertise themselves as educational. But, in truth, they seek to indoctrinate. I am not asking this question to prove what I said above. I freely admit that this is...

Shog9

I'm standing in line at a taco shop. I need entertainment.

user315433

Let's add Lifehacks to the list...

Shog9

And beer. But you can't help with that.

Jason C

I was so pumped to give you entertainment then TIL I don't get a "kick-mute" option for blue names.

Shog9

12:49 AM

Yeah, I gotta live vicariously

user202362

taco ... frozen minced beef ... wood fire oven

Fawad

@JasonC make room private,and don't give access permission to blue names

user202362

I used to annoy this other room owner, he used to give me this tiny 30 secs kick

user202362

it tickles

user202362

makes me want to annoy him more

Jason C

12:51 AM

@Fawad Sounds like work.

user202362

but I would never do this to you @jas ... coz I don't want to annoy you

Jason C

I find muting people to be more effective than a kick.

user202362

but you are not kind of person who would plonk people for a long time

hichris123

Wait, you can kick other room owners?

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC muting is kind of a drama magnet for us on root access

Jason C

1:10 AM

@hichris123 Yeah it look like it.

At least the option is there when I click your name.

@JourneymanGeek That's because people don't know how to mute effectively.

user202362

so if US goes into war in Syria, US is going to spend more on army?

Jason C

They tend to announce it first. That's the drama trigger.

Nothing makes a situation worse than:

user202362

increased spending with raising interest rate, we are heading towards GFC II

Jason C

@JourneymanGeek MUTED.

@Telkitty US already spends an inordinate amount of money on the military I feel like at this point increases are almost ... a sad non-issue.

user202362

1:24 AM

Why does the Syria airstrike gives me this feeling that many people support the sentiment that the way to stop conflict is to kill people and destroy things?? Isn't it a rather retarded stance?

Shog9

You're not a REAL president unless you've indirectly destroyed a whole lotta stuff. That's how it works. Don't rock the boat.

user202362

I understand that from president's point of view, but not from everyone else

Jason C

Do sites have the ability to add custom flag reasons on answer flags?

Shog9

1:48 AM

No

Well. You can type stuff.

Jason C

You mean like change the descriptions of the existing flags?

Journeyman Geek

@Telkitty cause it works sometimes. Most of the time it does not. Also makes a great distraction.

user202362

yeah, killing all people would end conflicts of humankind, really smart </sarcasm>

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC lol. Also one high functioning autistic with troll tendencies and one with a tendency to overreact

user202362

2:13 AM

old meters on switchboard were from 1959

user202362

I finally figured out my house's age

user315433

2:28 AM

@hichris123 Could have a kick duel... Someone sends "go" message as a start signal, then two ROs try to kick each other.

user202362

3:33 AM

Look, who wants to watch the world burn now?😱

user202362

4:12 AM

@Gerry Why do you have to be such a hypocrite - you are obviously attracted to 1337 tr011s, any 1337 tr011 (although there aren't so many of us). And yet you pretend to renounce us, while we both know deep inside, you just want us 1337 tr011s to throw ourselves at you like magnet to an iron nail.

Jason C

4:54 AM

There is so much fail here I can barely comprehend it:

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Q: eclipse in java resolve my error

enter image description here Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 0 at com.project.consumer.Consumer.main(Consumer.java:321) HOW TO RESOLVE IT

java eclipse

The question. The engrish comment. The crap answer. The garbage suggested edit, the inexplicable approve vote on said edit. This one has it all.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JasonC Why not bringing that up at the SOCVR then?

Jason C

@πάνταῥεῖ I did.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JasonC Unfortunately I'm still blocked there and at SO, so I didn't notice ;-)

Journeyman Geek

5:11 AM

lol

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JourneymanGeek Grumble >|

Anonymous

5:34 AM

That's great.

Jason C

@SmokeDetector sneaky

Journeyman Geek

@πάνταῥεῖ tbh, any reply that I can say would be too mean, so... how much longer before you're out of the doghouse? ;p

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JourneymanGeek "any reply that I can say would be too mean" I know of course >|

The general policy at SO is that "we throw cotton balls at VLQ crap, or shut up at all" (citing a colleage)

Jason C

Wow: datagenetics.com/blog/september32012 This is ridiculously fascinating.

I cannot believe how much analysis that guy put into that.

Journeyman Geek

hm

that's annoying

πάντα ῥεῖ

5:49 AM

Sure

Journeyman Geek

Looks like I may need to disconnect my graphics card to get access to my sata ports

Ah, no

@JasonC Maybe he was bored ;)

user202362

6:12 AM

πάντα ῥεῖ

@Telkitty I'm cool as can be babe!

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Ow

πάντα ῥεῖ

There's a narrow borderline of "being nice" and simply telling people the blatant truth. Well, I'm not really supposed to complain. At medievial times and other ages they simply decided to cut truth tellers their heads off.

Journeyman Geek

@πάνταῥεῖ you can tell people the blatent truth in a painfully nice way.

Jason C

Ye needeth to read ye olde fine help center and tour before ye proceed to asketh any questions of a topic not pertaining to this fine site. — Journeyman Geek 5 hours ago

For example, lol

Journeyman Geek

6:23 AM

lol

Jason C

I kind of want to use that as a general template. Way weirder totally out of context.

Journeyman Geek

lol. Just don't blame me if you get in trouble for it. In this case, I couldn't resist ;)

Jason C

Actually that's not a bad idea, like if every comment I made on SO, I talked like a pirate.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JourneymanGeek I well know. But that's even worse IMO. I'm well versed with highly sophisticated sarcasm, but that lets people looking even dumber than really necessary. Just my 2c.

Journeyman Geek

Now now, that's faux medivalism, ye knave.

;p

πάντα ῥεῖ

6:26 AM

Well, simply cutting heads of is straightforward and effective :-)

Journeyman Geek

@πάνταῥεῖ lol. Diplomacy is the art of telling someone to go to hell, and have them look forward to the trip? ;p

Jason C

No I know, but I want to talk like a pirate.

You can talk like a court jester or whatever

Journeyman Geek

lol

I'll talk as appropriate ;p

Jason C

> Ahoy 'n welcome t' stack o'erflow. Thanks fer nah readin' th' help center afore postin' yer garbage riddle, ye farrgin' dickwad.

Journeyman Geek

(also was tempted to answer in character but I should set a good example, even when trolling ;) )

Jason C

6:28 AM

So much nicer.

Journeyman Geek

Well, I'd use something a little less blatent...

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JourneymanGeek Isn't such really cruel? Besides being sarcastic sometimes I'm still a philanthrope.

Journeyman Geek

dickwad is rude.

@πάνταῥεῖ oh more often than not the most I do is tell them to take a hike

Jason C

"Dickwad" is one of the highest compliments a pirate can give. Obviously you know nothing of pirates.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JourneymanGeek That's a really good idea, but leaves them confused anyways :-/

@JasonC "Obviously you know nothing of pirates." Isn't that rude?

Journeyman Geek

6:30 AM

@JasonC apparently profanity is against the rules...

so we need to get creative...

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JourneymanGeek Or simply shut up and use our tools :-P

Journeyman Geek

@πάνταῥεῖ there was someone mass flagging every single use of words that could be deemed profane...

I put my foot down when he flagged mispellings of as as ass...

Jason C

Sigh... see, the point of "dickwad" there was a humourously blunt completion of an otherwise silly sentence, meant to induce lols from the contrast. /annoying-explanation-of-joke

And now I'm just demoralized, and I no longer care about pirates, or anything, really. Thanks.

Journeyman Geek

Well, all 4 feet. But you get the idea.

Speaking of trolls and feet...

news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/…

Jason C

@JourneymanGeek And thus began the Great Pineapple Pizza War between Iceland and New Zealand, which lasted for four centuries and ended in the complete devastation of two once-prosperous nations.

Journeyman Geek

6:40 AM

@JasonC and everything in between

Jason C

Lol

Journeyman Geek

I had pasta made entirely from scratch, right down to the pasta

Well. I suppose the cheddar was store bought.

user202362

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Q: Can we change the inaccurate wording of semi-perm bans?

Look at this: A temporary suspension for 10 years with roughly 8 years remaining. Is 10 years temporary? I hardly think so. You don't say you temporarily lived in a place for 10 years or you temporarily worked in a company for 8. In many developed countries, manslaughter only carries 1-2 yea...

discussion wording ban

Jason C

I sort of like imagining a bunch of soldiers with pineapple-on-pizza emblems on their uniforms, fighting soldiers with "no pineapple" signs on their hats or something.

Journeyman Geek

It gets worse

stuff.co.nz/national/91340014/…

> The Italian Embassy in Wellington has responded with an epic 'vendetta' aimed at just about the only culinary dish of note from New Zealand - the pavlova.

The embassy posted a pizza-pavlova on Twitter, a variation on the classic Kiwi dessert except with slices of salami instead of strawberries.

Jason C

6:51 AM

Oh god

This is so awesome

I knew WW3 was going to happen sooner or later, I didn't think it would be a food fight.

Elephant

@Telkitty if it's not permanent, then it's temporary. Or do you have better suggestion?

"This account is semi-permanently suspended network-wide" doesn't sound nice...

user202362

really?

user202362

you can be just suspended

user202362

not temporarily or permanently

Elephant

then add that as a suggestion to your question to improve your stance?

Journeyman Geek

7:03 AM

@Telkitty the idea is its pretty much impossible to get banned

We'll either murderate the hell out of your account, or you can come back eventually.

user202362

if you draw a snake, don't draw 4 legs

Elephant

I saw a drawing of 4-legged snake... oh well...

user202362

'This account is suspended network-wide' is fine.

user202362

7:29 AM

@JasonC i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--j5EzyLlb--/…

Jason C

→ 13 messages moved to Chimney

M.A.R.

SmokeDetector

7:55 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: No sound in headphones (Windows 10) by shit on superuser.com

Magisch

8:21 AM

Interesting court opinion here: cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/04/07/14-56596.pdf

Apparently the court holds that DMCA safe harbor principles no longer apply if user generated content is moderated by volunteers

SmokeDetector

8:46 AM

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SmokeDetector

9:26 AM

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9:37 AM

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Elephant

10:34 AM

Assertion Error: False is not True -- but it's true that "false is not true"

Fawad

10:55 AM

Above sentence about false is true^

SmokeDetector

11:16 AM

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SmokeDetector

11:34 AM

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M.A.R.

12:25 PM

@SmokeDetector K

M.A.R.

1:22 PM

-1

Q: Why is there rep on Meta?

What is the reason for having rep on Meta? Why bother having up or down votes on meta. Isn't this a place to express your opinions? Why penalize people for expressing their opinions on this site? Rep does nothing to express what peoples ideas are, so why have it? ie, single rep users can't comm...

discussion

That felt better than a normal ranty comment

rene

1:58 PM

Thanks @Bart for wording my concern nicely in a comment.

M.A.R.

Thanks @Bart for wording his concern nicely in a comment.

SamsungNote7Plus

Thanks @Bart for wording his concern nicely in a comment.

rene

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 mins ago, by M.A.R.

OK, fun's over.

M.A.R.

Flags @rene as plagiarism

SamsungNote7Plus

Flags @rene as plagiarism

rene

2:03 PM

Flash backs

M.A.R.

I really appreciate you opinion, but you are really being penalized for it. I am going to UV , as I hate this system. — KyloRen 8 mins ago

Wait, where's UV?

If he means the sun, I'm afraid it might be a little . . . warm

right?

Shadow Wizard

how on Earth that user-troll isn't question banned yet????????????????????????????

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard They're still trying

Shadow Wizard

Does it take 1000000 questions with -10000000000 each?

I mean... come on...

M.A.R.

Tough achievements need a lot of dedication

SamsungNote7Plus

2:14 PM

Tough achievements need a lot of dedication

Jon Ericson

@M.A.R. UserVoice?

M.A.R.

@JonEricson Isn't that kinda a museum right now?

I can't unsee it as "Ultra-Violet"

Bart

@ShadowWizard at this point he should just be suspended. It's moving from consistently contrarian, to unacceptably insulting.

M.A.R.

@Bart Frankly, it's either that 1. He's intentionally trolling, or 2. He's non-native and the language barrier isn't helping his case, or 3. He's not been to any mature conversations, like people younger than 13 years old or so

Shadow Wizard

@Bart agreed. Wonder why it's not done yet...

@M.A.R. at this point, I'm 100% sure the first option.

Bart

2:23 PM

Oh god ... he's teaming up with peterh ...

M.A.R.

@Bart Oh, this be good

Bart

All we need is Laszlo back, and that dude who kept telling us Experts-Exchange was so much better

M.A.R.

@peterh, been there done that, suspended many times. I am free, that is why people hate my opinions. — KyloRen 5 mins ago

LOL

I hope the conversation continues

It's been some time since I last took screenshots

Bart

:D

M.A.R.

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/293529/… -- [del-pls]

SNAFU

4:05 PM

About to start some maintenance work on SQL servers. Should be brief.

Tweeted by StackStatus on April 8, 2017 at 4:03 PM

tchrist

And then there were none.

Shadow Wizard

@SNAFU yeah I know, MSE is down.

M.A.R.

. . .

Shadow Wizard

oh, SO too. And not read only, 100% down and dead.

M.A.R.

We were in the middle of our little retagging event

WORST POSSIBLE TIME GAAA

Shadow Wizard

4:08 PM

"were".

Not anymore. evil laugh

Jason C

We're about to take Stack Overflow down, hopefully for 30-60 seconds only for a database backend cutover.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on April 8, 2017 at 4:03 PM

Shadow Wizard

No worry will be back in 6-8 hours.

It's already more than 60 seconds.

tchrist

Metric hours, or English?

Shadow Wizard

oh, back.

Well, 100 seconds or so. Not bad. :)

Still, taking down the whole network for "some maintenance"? ...

Wonder if there will be meta posts "Why the site was down?"

tchrist

@ShadowWizard Right, metric minute.

SNAFU

4:17 PM

We had a severe multi-minute lag in a SQL Availability Group Failover we're digging into. Sorry that lasted a few minutes. Finding out why.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on April 8, 2017 at 4:12 PM in reply to Nick_Craver

tchrist

Eppur si muove.

rene

4:49 PM

@ShadowWizard didn't they need to do a fix on the db schema: twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/849364707601416192 and twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/849569834899828737

Let me see if the 503 I got was due to the downtime, not because I'm abusing the network...

Jason C

cv-pls dupe meta.stackexchange.com/q/293521

bjb568

5:15 PM

@bjb568 25700 now.

For future searching: vocab vocabulary test. testyourvocab.com

Shadow Wizard

@rene downtime, most likely.

@JasonC honestly I wouldn't bother with that question... amazed at myself for wasting time on adding relevant tags.

Jason C

I thought it was worth 10 minutes or so. That's about all I've got. Fwiw I am legitimately hoping that they'll eventually realize their communication problems and transform into a valuable contributing user. This may be a fantasy.

SmokeDetector

5:30 PM

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6:54 PM

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Jason C

7:16 PM

Lol:

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Q: How can I store a specific smell the easiest way?

For a project at school, a room where you can change the smell easily (In order to feel like you were on a mountain, in the city or in a stable), I need some material which "stores" smell the best. If any of you also have an idea how I can change the smell in a room the easiest way, that would a...

smell

This is such a weirdly good question. It might be the only question I've ever seen on that site that seems to call for some sort of actual "hack".

I encourage reopen votes.

I'll be so sad if that stays closed while lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2090/… stays at the top of the question list.

M.A.R.

@JasonC Meh, that stayed there probably because it was asked during private Beta

Jason C

It stayed there because nobody went back to clean it up and the users it attracts help them life-hack their area 51 stats into looking good.

M.A.R.

7:32 PM

"Can I print this voicemail? I need to save it for later."

clientsfromhell.net/post/133996490176/…

> An agency hired me to take photographs of the installations and directive board of a large enterprise. They didn’t wanted to spend a lot of money, so they only hired me and an assistant, no makeup or stylist.

The CEO arrived, his assistant told me that he only had few minutes because he had a meeting in another city. We took a couple pictures of the full board, and a couple more of individual portraits, five minutes total. We showed them the pictures and they were happy, then he left to the airport. I delivered the final pictures a few days later.

Jason C

LifeHacks is #10 in closed question %, #30 in deleted %, way above the median in both.

Bart

8:02 PM

Maybe there is a good lifehack to improve those stats?

rene

Maybe rub the stats with baby-wipes to make them shine?

Bart

Either that, or put them in a bag of rice to soak up the excess stats?

rene

Do you need whole-grain rice or will Uncle Ben's do?

Bart

Should be fine. Don't use rice porridge though. That won't help

Jason C

8:20 PM

Is there an MSE post detailing exactly how Area 51 stats are computed? (@ShadowWizard ?)

SmokeDetector

8:33 PM

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9:36 PM

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user315433

Edited spam still exists 13 hours later... is incidentally also a meta subject.

user315433

Gah stupid fade out on low-score answers.

Jason C

Doesn't mouse over unfade?

Or just on comments maybe

Btw:

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Q: Clipboardy chrome extension to copy posted source to clipboard

Screenshot / Code Snippet About Clipboardy is a Chrome extension for copying posted code to clipboard from stackoverflow.com, github.com & npmjs.com. It can: Copy the source code to clipboard with just one click Select the source text Collapse the source text Show the history of clipbo...