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2:06 PM
Hrm. The server room temp dropped to 21*C, but the UPS temp climbed to 34.6*C. Quite odd really...
 
@drachenstern NO.
 
@drachenstern Oh right, tomorrow's my birthday...hmm.
 
Who's this St. Patrick character anyway? And why does the Irish have a national obsession with the color green?
 
because that's the color of potatoes when left too long in the sun!
 
ok not irish but reading this might make you gag a bit D:
Haggis is a dish containing sheep's 'pluck' (heart, liver and lungs), minced with onion, oatmeal, suet, spices, and salt, mixed with stock, and traditionally simmered in the animal's stomach for approximately three hours. Most modern commercial haggis is prepared in a casing rather than an actual stomach. Haggis is a kind of sausage, or savoury pudding cooked in a casing of sheep's intestine, as many sausages are. As the 2001 English edition of the Larousse Gastronomique puts it, "Although its description is not immediately appealing, haggis has an excellent nutty texture and delicious...
 
2:20 PM
@Shog9 Ewwww...
 
scottish, ew.
not as bad as black pudding.
Saint Patrick's Day () is a religious holiday celebrated internationally on 17 March. It is named after Saint Patrick ( AD 387–461), the most commonly recognised of the patron saints of Ireland. It is observed by the Roman Catholic Church, the Anglican Communion (especially the Church of Ireland), the Eastern Orthodox Church and Lutherans. Saint Patrick's Day was made an official feast day in the early 17th century, and has gradually become a celebration of Irish culture in general. The day is generally characterised by the attendance of church services, wearing of green attire (especiall...
 
@YiJiang Well, if you've ever been there, it rains a lot, and it's very green.
They have a special kind of rain which looks really light, but soaks you to the bone in no time.
 
and its not even pudding Dx
 
@Benjol Not unlike Singapore :P
It rains almost everyday, and nobody can deny there's a lot of greenary
 
sausages are practically pudding
they're like... meaty pudding-pops!
 
2:23 PM
nom nom nom...or not.
Black pudding or blood pudding is a type of sausage made by cooking blood or dried blood with a filler until it is thick enough to congeal when cooled. The dish exists in various cultures from Asia to America. Pig, cattle, sheep, duck and goat blood can be used depending on different countries. In Europe, typical fillers include meat, fat, suet, bread, sweet potato, onion, chestnuts, barley, and oatmeal while in Spain and Asia, potato is often replaced by rice. Regional variants The Americas As German Americans are one of the largest ancestral groups in the United States, foods l...
 
I think i should leave or i might just throw up in my mouth
 
@Reno Just wait till I show you pig organ soup
 
@RebeccaChernoff hahahah :p
 
@YiJiang out of curiosity, can you travel freely into Malaysia from Singapore as a Singaporean citizen? If you want to get out of the city once in a while?
 
@reno: on st pats it's traditional to throw up in everywhere
3
 
2:27 PM
does anybody else use markdown spontaneously in their IM convos now?
 
@What I'm not a Singapore citizen, and I believe the answer is no
 
@YiJiang right!
 
@Shog9 old meme is old?
 
ooh, shiny. 20x new backup tapes to label and feed into the library.
 
Interesting.
 
2:28 PM
(Don't quote me on that)
 
@tombull89 lovely. I hate that sort of drudge work ... guess it's good I'm not in IT anymore
 
@YiJiang I won't. Just curious
Cool, a city with its own Air Force.
With F-15s :)
 
I'm 21, have to start somewhere :P. Inner geek marvels at masses of storage anyway.
 
But there's arguably lots of green. I'd probably go nuts otherwise if I lived there, and try to swim into Malaysia or Indonesia every weekend :)
 
@What You'd go nuts because of the green? I'm confused
 
2:31 PM
@Benjol No I'd go nuts without
 
@What Its idiotic; the running joke is that the Singaporean army is the best in the world, because it has never lost (since it has never fought a war)
 
@What is <-- this in deference to @Whom?
 
@YiJiang hahaha! Well, that's a lucky record to have.
 
hands pekka green beer to keep him out o the water
 
drinks green beer, likes it
 
2:33 PM
What is nothing if not deferential
 
@Benjol for maximum dramatic effect in the 2nd comment to yesterday's question meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/83480/…
 
I'd rename myself to @Why, but that's already taken (sort of)
 
@Shog9 What is cool. It challenges, It scrutinizes. It deconstructs
@Benjol @badp was going to rename himself to Whence but he cowardly wussed out
 
@What, that leaves @Whither :)
 
2:35 PM
is eating green eggs q:
 
And ham?
 
@Benjol nice as well!
 
no, no ham.
 
@TimStone And bacon!
 
For shame!
 
2:35 PM
But seriously, is there such thing as green eggs?
 
dammit, I had to agree with Will. I SEE YOUR EVIL SCHEME, @WHAT!
 
@YiJiang Yes. Yes there are
Century egg, also known as preserved egg, hundred-year egg, thousand-year egg, thousand-year-old egg, and millennium egg (or Pidan in Mandarin), is a Chinese cuisine ingredient made by preserving duck, chicken or quail eggs in a mixture of clay, ash, salt, lime, and rice hulls for several weeks to several months, depending on the method of processing. Through the process, the yolk becomes a dark green to grey colour, with a creamy consistency and an odor of sulphur and ammonia, while the white becomes a dark brown, transparent jelly with little flavor. The transforming agent in the centur...
 
@What Oh, that. Well that's certainly not green. And I usually have some of that with porridge
 
@Shog9 do you mean my naming scheme, or my delete comment noise scheme?
 
2:37 PM
mmm... Sulfur and ammonia...
 
@YiJiang My Dad used to threaten us with these. (He spent some time in China in the 1970s and apparently got showed some, or even ate some, I don't remember exactly)
 
@YiJiang yes there are
 
Its really not bad, they're very good with porridge
 
However, I don't think the yolks are green
 
how bad is the porridge?
 
2:38 PM
@Shog9 Oy
 
@YiJiang must be interesting! As with so many things that include some rotting of some sort, they are probably much more delicious than the process makes it seem
 
IMAGE NOT FOUND?
 
But @Shog you're shooting the messenger. It wasn't my idea to start deleting comment noise. My idea was in response to the decision that comments are going to be deleted by mods, which I think is unwise
 
@What 1.2 billion Chinese cannot be wrong :P
 
2:41 PM
eyes still standing messenger balefuly, reloads
 
All those complaining so loudly about deleting comments are not downvoting this - mine is the only vote there
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Q: Should moderators delete "make correction... done" comments?

Robert CartainoThese types of comment discussions are pretty common: @AuthorX: In your post, I think you meant "you're", not "your". - user1234 35 mins ago Oh, thanks. It's fixed now. - AuthorX 30 minutes ago Once resolved, those comments are useless and noise. As a user, I was always wary about ...

Which is what they should be downvoting instead
 
if I was a moderator, I would totally delete those comments
2
 
I am a moderator (on Gaming) and I'm totally not deleting those comments
2
 
@RebeccaChernoff Oy.
 
@Shog9 I would slap you so hard
 
2:43 PM
kicks @badp once more for good luck
5
 
</randomstars>
 
Destroying my piece of art
 
@Shog9 gaming.stackexchange.com/posts/15933/revisions Is Oak's vandalism? Do not look at the comments.
 
@RebeccaChernoff That's cheating!
 
@What what downvotes?
 
2:44 PM
Wonders if badges are lost when comments are deleted, or if mega-upvoted comments are undeletable
 
@drachenstern to my "delete comment noise" feature suggestion
 
@Benjol no, and no
 
@drachenstern No, you're doing it wrong
@What downvotes?
 
@What yes yes, I understood that. The whole post has like 5 downvotes en toto
 
@drachenstern I'm not complaining about the votes, I just find it silly that 5 people downvote that suggestion with the argument "Comments shouldn't be deleted" while the post bringing up the whole idea of deleting comments in the first place has only 1 downvote - mine
 
2:46 PM
@badp: no. Since when is removing superluous noise vandalism?
 
@What er, no, I rather meant that there were only 5 downvotes on all the posts. Yours and the Q both had -2
 
The question has 3
Which is no problem at all, I could totally live with things staying as they are
But it would be a nice system for users to clean up their own noise.
 
@What then somebody added one since we started
or I can't count
 
@drachenstern oh yeah, now I see what you mean. It was at -1 five minutes ago
I was confused about which question you mean.
 
2:51 PM
So are we talking about two different questions?
 
@drachenstern Robert's question suggesting the deletion of comments had only 1 downvote 8 minutes ago, and gained 2 more since.
My question about deleting comment noise (the fancy edition) has 3, not 5, my mistake.
Just to clear things up :)
 
so the take-away here is, pekka feels we should down-vote robert more.
 
Well, not really. But if you're going to downvote me with the arguments that cleaning up comments is wrong, you should downvote him twice
Which probably comes down to the same thing :)
So - Downvote Robert!!!!1
 
burninate1!!!1one
I thought chrome told me there was useful activity in here ... >.>
 
3:05 PM
@ÓlafurWaage Long time no see!
 
Ditto
Slacking off it networks class.
Firefox 4RC1 is pretty nice
 
^^^^^^^^ holy eff
 
everyday shaking here, I am being crazy
 
pretty sick solution coming in in a momemnt, @ircmaxell :)
 
@balpha Hmmmm?
 
3:10 PM
nice
 
Ah, for the code golf question
 
link plx
 
2
Q: Find all number pairs that sum to 121212

ircmaxellThis problem is quite easy to do by brute force. In fact, it'll be reasonably fast to brute force as well. But where's the fun in that? The Problem Produce a list of all unique 5 digit number pairs that sum to 121212. However, each decimal digit must appear exactly once in either number. So...

 
Why do I always wait until the last minute to fill out my march madness brackets? RUNNING OUT OF TIME!
and I only got invited to do a couple this year, usually I fill out 5-10 heh.
 
codegolf SE
 
3:13 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Invited to do what?
 
really?
 
Well, it turns out the AC unit was completely iced over
I took a blowdrier and melted all of the ice
and am letting it run with the fan only for a few hours before I switch it back on...
 
AC unit iced over, isn't that a recursive problem?
 
March madness to a basketball fan is like Christmas to a little kid hehehe
 
Can not wait and over way to soon?
 
3:16 PM
lmao shakes head
 
Oh god, sports! Ahhhhhh! runs off
 
sports \o/
 
@RebeccaChernoff -_-
 
Sports? But we're a bunch of nerds
 
yesterday, by Yi Jiang
@Benjol What is this sport thing? Is it edible?
yesterday, by Benjol
tempted to flag sport as offensive :)
 
3:18 PM
shakes head
 
Sport to Yi Jang is like <censored> is to <censored>
 
0
A: Find all number pairs that sum to 121212

balphaIt's pretty efficient because it constructs the numbers (the inner-most loop is executed 4570 times total) and pretty short bcause I golfed a little (201 characters), but I'm not really sure I want to explain this :) p=lambda t,a,d:((x,y)for x in range(10)for y in[(t-x-a)%10]if(x not in d)&(...

 
python?
nvm, i see it in the test
 
wanders off to find people to talk sports with - y'all are useless! (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff We most certainly are! Now if its electronic sports, well that's an entirely different story
 
3:25 PM
):
 
@YiJiang be a good sport.... snickers
 
Soccer!
 
(Football?)
 
3:28 PM
NOOOOO! Whenever I play soccer my goal is to stay as far from the ball as possible
 
Oh, well then.
 
FIFA 98?
 
FIFA 10, but also outdoors and such.
 
Keyword "outdoors" undefined.
 
well the query analyzer is screwing me big time, sp_FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
@Nick_Craver there's the problem - you wanted dbo.sp_FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, but it is running ncraver.sp_FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
3:29 PM
Hahah
 
What the hell are they both looking at???
 
something down and to the left
 
Very Nice @balpha: I think you're in first in the iteration count..
 
down
and to the left
 
What happened to Josh; does he hate us now?
 
3:31 PM
Who here is a networking geek on windows?
 
@MichaelMrozek no. He's had a helluva server problem and he's been trying to get things under control
 
Is that the server that runs his website? I was trying to get the XMPP server code, but it's down
 
@ÓlafurWaage Oooo... my beautiful gravatar!
 
@balpha That's evil, and awesome :P
 
@MichaelMrozek probably. He's just full of not having fun atm.
He figures if he can stay off chat he'll get more done, I wish I had his resolve ;)
@ÓlafurWaage I would just ask
 
3:36 PM
Weird... awn dock suddenly decide it doesn't want to hide any more
 
I have a client application that has a hard coded IP address that it has a TCP connection to. I want to make the client connect to a different IP (localhost for example). So how can I make my adapter think that the IP address is actually some other address.
IE make it think that 123.123.123.123 is 127.0.0.1
I have tried route ADD and rinetd
 
@ÓlafurWaage that is an interesting problem. I honestly don't know.
I would make that a SF question
 
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A: Add possibility to remove comment noise (fancy edition)

Shog9I really can't shake the feeling that this is overly-complex, given the current status of comments on SE. You're adding what amounts to collaborative editing to a document (the set of comments on a post) that has no history, and trying to avoid mistakes by imposing a complicated set of rules on w...

 
There are two there, that suggest route ADD and the other to add the IP address onto the adapter in control panel (which I don't want to do)
 
YOU
how about creating loopback adapter and assign 123.123.123.123 to it? @ÓlafurWaage
 
3:46 PM
Hmm could work
 
kicks @What
 
yawn Time for some coffee and a cigar @Shog9. :)
 
@Shog9 Hang on, what are you kicking there?
 
@GeorgeMarian :D
 
3:51 PM
@YiJiang: Yes! What am I kicking at.
 
slaps @Shog
 
@SMark it works
thanks
 
YOU
cool, :)
 
words a strong reply to @What's confused ramblings
 
@Shog9 coolly awaits response
But is interested in hearing more about Shog's suggestion to let higher-rep users delete comments.
Thinks that might be worth a feature request, or a more fleshed out answer
 
4:03 PM
I left that to the end, and left it brief, because I don't honestly think it's a great idea. Yes, we'd get a lot more deletion... But at the cost of a good deal more overhead (both in the implementation of the system, and in the review of deletions)
The moderator-deletion/flag-deletion system we have now is a compromise: there's not a tremendous amount of deletion, but overhead is also very limited.
What I really want to avoid is a system that imposes massive amounts of additional overhead, but doesn't actually result in much noise getting removed.
(I would also love the ability to mass-delete any comments asking for down-vote clarification, but left that out of the answer 'cause it's not Christmas)
 
@Shog9 true, it's the simplest system imaginable.
I would still like to see a tool that allows people to unanimously clean up their own stuff.... Doing that right now using comments and step-by-step deletion really stinks, and is not user friendly at all. Anyway, it would be very expensive to implement.
 
Okay, how the hell did Ubuntu manage to eat up all of the RAM and swap?
 
@What And that was the only reason why I bothered including an alternate suggestion: if we're (well, The SO Team) gonna blow the effort on a big new complicated system for comment deletion, might as well make good and certain that comments actually get deleted.
 
Python is taking up more than 700mb of memory? o_O
 
@Shog9 Fair enough, although I can't see a way to do that that isn't orders of magnitude more complicated than collaborative editing. (If it's going to include a history)
 
4:12 PM
Oh god, >_< How did a panel applet manage to leak memory so badly?
 
That's why I said I'd be interested in a fleshed out suggestion, with an idea what the UI could look like
 
All this hate for those poor comments.
 
@What If there's more than a trivial amount of interest expressed, I'll do some UI mock-ups (what I'm picturing is actually very, very simple UI-wise). But right now, I'm not all that convinced that anything needs to change.
 
@Shog9 Fair enough.
 
I really should be a little more careful about what I install... sighs
 
4:16 PM
@YiJiang what did you install?
 
@What A little harmless panel applet that managed to eat up 700 mb of memory and almost crashed the computer
 
@YiJiang ouch
 
@YiJiang Sometimes those are the worst, because they're just slapped together with little testing as someone's first attempt a project in language X.
 
@YiJiang which one?
 
Actually, tell me - if I see python listed on gnome-system-monitor, is it possible to see which script is running behind that process?
@badpssockpuppet code.google.com/p/feedindicator - it was the panel applet that drop dead when I killed the 700 mb python process
 
4:27 PM
Oh, I never tried it then.
 
@YiJiang view command line?
 
> The memory raises with 2-4 MiB every update.
 
omg, somebody help me, my wife is determined to get an effing cat
we already have mutts
we don't need a cat
 
@What: I have an update out...
 
4:31 PM
FML
 
@drachenstern Everyone needs a cat
 
@MichaelMrozek not true. I'm doing just fine without one.
 
@GeorgeEdison nice, I'll test it straight away.
 
I just want this one compromise: Get out of the current short-term debt we have at the moment from playing catchup to help her family not be in massive-debt, and then we can get a cat.
We're only talking about from now to June
 
@GeorgeEdison George still throws a lolcat
 
4:33 PM
It's risky, but if you think you can live three more months without a cat...
 
@What The new version?
 
@drachenstern You're right, you need one of these instead.
 
@drachenstern Would the cat have outside access or be an indoor cat?
 
@GeorgeEdison arrrghhh sorry, I have to update that first of course
My bad
Hold on
 
@GeorgeMarian I live in an apartment building.
 
4:35 PM
@drachenstern Oh, yah. You don't want a cat. Litter boxes, furballs and up-chucking cats are not fun.
@TimStone Nice looking dog. I wouldn't want to be responsible for brushing it or cleaning up after it. Regardless, WTF?
 
@GeorgeMarian thank you.
My wife does not understand this concept.
 
@GeorgeEdison works like a charm! The new colours are very nice, too. The "click to edit" is a bit too strong IMO. Otherwise, great work, thanks!
 
@What Oh good.
Did you see the complete list of new features?
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Q: StackExchange™ SuperCollider Freehand Circle™ Editor

George Edison v1.1 Update - what's new: Fixed bug where answer would have long blank section Added new color and brush settings Images must be clicked on first to activate tools Added support for annotating images when composing an answer / question Fixed fkey bug Screenshot / Code...

 
@drachenstern While she's sleeping, take a mushy banana, peel it, cover it in fur and place it on her side of the bed where she'll step on it while climbing out of bed in the morning.
 
@GeorgeMarian she climbs out on my side of the bed.
 
4:37 PM
@GeorgeEdison ohhhh, support for annotating is excellent, that was the only big shortcoming until now
I'll test that too
 
@drachenstern Aw man, well then you'll have to be careful. :)
 
@drachenstern Hey, cats are cuddly and loveable too
 
@MichaelMrozek so am I
 
@GeorgeEdison annotating while composing oesn't seem to be working for me though, do I have to do something?
 
4:39 PM
Does that mean you want me to lay on your chest too?
 
Seriously, one the most annoying thing about cats is stepping in their furballs.
 
invites @drachenstern to a private room
2
 
@MichaelMrozek lmao
 
@What Are you getting any errors in the console?
 
@GeorgeEdison Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property '1' of null in line 62 in Chrome, but that doesn't make sense, it's inside the markup... strange
 
4:40 PM
@MichaelMrozek Don't get me wrong. I like cats. However, indoor cats are a pain. It raises some difficulties not had if they have outdoor access. They're food is more expensive, they tend to have more digestive issues, and lets not forget the litter boxes. :)
 
What post are you using?
 
@GeorgeEdison Doesn't seem to have to do with your script though, that comes after uploading
 
Maybe I can try to reproduce.
 
@GeorgeEdison Composing a new question; uploading an image
Trying to draw on that image
 
4:41 PM
Or am I misunderstanding the new feature?
 
No, that should work.
Maybe try an answer.
 
Will do
@GeorgeEdison that indeed works
Hang on, trying deep reload
 
So then it's a bug with composing questions.
 
Why oh why can't windows offer dependency resolution?
 
@GeorgeEdison yup. Right after uploading, I get the "cannot read proerty" error and there is no drawing function. In answers, it works fine.
 
4:44 PM
Hmmm.... looking into it...
 
@GeorgeEdison I think being able to annotate answers directly is already a lot
 
@GeorgeMarian Right? People are crazy.
 
@TimStone Yeah, especially the newly rich.
 
Indeed :P
 
@TimStone well duh
 
4:53 PM
@What I think I fixed it now.
 
anybody got a quick simple random C# true or false return method?
 
return true;
 
@drachenstern return true; // Chosen by a coin flip, always will be random
 
return new Random().Next( 5 ) > 2;
that should work
 
lol
 
4:55 PM
As I understand the math, that says for random ints between 0 and 4, if it's 3 or 4 return true, otherwise false.
 
return new Random().Next( 1 ) == 0;
 
@ircmaxell but isn't 1 not included?
so it'll always be true?
it's an exclusive upper bound, not inclusive
I guess I could set it to 2 and test == 0
 
Oh, then
return new Random().Next( 2 ) == 0;
 
I really do want a random response. I'm testing a branching statement.
 
but that's pretty dumb that it's exclusive, considering it's an int. If it was a float, I'd understand
 
4:57 PM
Yeah, me too, that's why I had to check the docs
 
random and tests === fail usually
 
I'm still not sure ...
> The exclusive upper bound of the random number to be generated. maxValue must be greater than or equal to zero.
> well i guess i will live with my itunes purchase then since i cant has a cat
she's learning lolspeak! :(
 
So what happens if it's 0? It's an exclusive upper bound, so it can't return 0, and it always returns a positive number, so I'm confused by that
 
It actually just returns 0 in that case.
 
So it's inconsistent as well as odd... A very dangerous combination
 
4:59 PM
Indeed
scares me
 
Well, it's at least a documented inconsistency, but yeah. :P
 
Ah, continuing reading:
> A 32-bit signed integer greater than or equal to zero, and less than maxValue; that is, the range of return values ordinarily includes zero but not maxValue. However, if maxValue equals zero, maxValue is returned.
That's so dumb.
 
I wonder why they chose to do that...
Actually, I know why...
It's because of the scaling function
 
I can imagine to deal with programmatic input that can't be constrained to be higher than 0
 
they first generate a random number with enough bytes to return the range
 
5:01 PM
yep
 
so if it can be represented as a 1 byte int, they generate 8 random bits
then they convert those bits to a number
then they need to scale it by a range factor
 
most likely
 
but since the range is a float, they just floor() it.
 
only I imagine it's 32 bits, since it takes an int
 
which makes the range exclusive instead of inclusive
@drachenstern Well, then perhaps it generates 32 random bits, but that's pretty dumb if you ask me
 
5:02 PM
well you are the one writing a security library that depends on these
 
Well, I know the floor() problem, because I faced that myself.
 
lol, sorry to hear that
 
so what I did was to round() it, since the float error is less than the 32 bit int's max range.
Reason #3054152124512352356 to hate MS: Why does the .NET Framework Client Profile take 30+ minutes to install? Why should any library take that long after it was downloaded...
 
lol
Do you want the real reason?
It's because of backwards compatibility
 
Nah, it's more fun to point the finger at MS and blame them, then accept any form of reason...
 
5:05 PM
Do you want the BS reason? It's cos M$ $uck$ man!
 
5:18 PM
> I don't understand what shoud hapened when brcode is null?? – Haroldis 4 mins ago
String.Format("some {0} string {1}","zero", "one"); is the proper syntax in C#, yes?
 
yes
 
@drachenstern can you explain that? Because I'm confused too... Is this the old "Windows installer has to update some database for every single file copied" thing?
 
@Shog9 yes. That's the reason why. Have you seen the newest version of this monstrosity with Vista/7?
 
No. I was toying with the idea of writing Wix scripts for our software at one point, but gave it up... Figured if they ever made it work properly someone would say something. Bad assumption, I suppose...
 
Go profile the size of a C:\Windows\WinSxS on a new machine. I'm looking at mine right now, and it's over 17GB
55,896 files
13,135 folders
 
5:33 PM
Interesting... My >year-old Win7 WinSxS is a svelte 11GB, with 68K files and 18K folders
 
Yeah, this machine isn't new, twas my point
 
I had a WinSXS kill a VPS once on Server 2008.
Nom nom nom until the disk was full and nothing worked any more. serverfault.com/questions/79485/…
 
It's like, why do they even need that, two of those are the fricking same!
 
Do not try to find sanity in the WinSXS folder.
You will be lost like in a pool of quicksand
 
Sigh... you won't get lost in quicksand. It's impossible to drown in quicksand.
 
5:39 PM
Just accept it exists, give it the space it needs, and go quietly about your business.
It's like the taxman
@GeorgeEdison it is? Interesting
 
The human body is buoyant in quicksand.
 
aaah I see, learnt something.
Okay, you will be lost like in a pool of motor oil
 
@drachenstern which two?
 
@Shog9 the bottom two
stupid phone calls distracting me
 
Here's my problem: MS went from "release 300 different versions of a library with the same name so that stuff breaks without warning" to "release 300 minor versions of the same library with 300 different names so that nothing ever breaks unless you forget to install the 'standard' libraries with your app"
3
 
5:46 PM
Oh it gets better
Not only did MS do that, so did many vendors
remember the old games on Win3.1 and Win95 where they would install a dll in your windows directory?
Windows intercepts those now and puts them into WinSxS and watches for that program to call that dll and then reroutes the call seamlessly to the dll in the right folder in the right place
it prevents dll collision hell, at the cost of space and speed
And the only way to reclaim that space is to let the automated tools do their job, or to reinstall.
 
Ah yes, more reasons not to go back to windows. (Though, the gamer in me will have to make use of windows again at some point.)
 
Speaking of Authors
can anyone here find a good collection of Frederik Pohl stories? I have one in mind I'm trying to track down
The Gold At Starbows End
or
Starbow
 

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