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12:21 AM

Happy new year everyone!! (UTC ;)

user315433

Users who earned 100K in a year:
2009: Jon Skeet
2010: Nick Craver, Jon Skeet, Hans Passant, BalusC, Darin Dimitrov
2011: Jon Skeet, Darin Dimitrov, BalusC
2012: Jon Skeet, Darin Dimitrov, BalusC
2013: Martijn Pieters, Jon Skeet, BalusC, Hans Passant, dasblinkenlight
2014: Gordon Linoff, Martijn Pieters, anubhava, Jon Skeet
2015: Gordon Linoff, Martijn Pieters
2016: Gordon Linoff, Günter Zöchbauer

user315433

Ugh, I was too late to check who cast the most votes on SO in 2016. The voters page switched to 2017, and unlike rep leagues, there is no looking back there.

bjb568

12:37 AM

nooooooo

Gah, those reply numbers on mobile still aren't fixed.

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1:25 AM

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user315433

2:39 AM

> Well, the Stack Overflow reputation reset to 0 for 2017 failed...guess what I'm fixing this week! EVERYONE GETS A REP RECALC FOR NEW YEARS! -- Nick Craver at 6:16 PM - 31 Dec 2016

Pandya

1 Year Later...

user315433

Nick is referring to the yearly rep page, stackoverflow.com/users?tab=Reputation&filter=year

user202362

2:56 AM

@zaq By the look of it, Jon has not been active on stackoverflow for at least 2 years - with all those passive reps, Skeet still can't pull a 100k. Poor you still living in the past, hoping Jon will come back and join you, like 5 years ago :'(

user202362

so the new year has started out like this:

user202362

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3:20 AM

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bjb568

3:50 AM

Somebody launched some fireworks nearby. Such excite!

user315433

Must be one of the "revelers", which I believe is a technical term for such people.

bjb568

4:21 AM

My countdown still works… sorta. codereview.stackexchange.com/q/75404/38669

user315433

4:33 AM

The last SO post of 2016 was an answer about hasOwnProperty, JavaScript - Could JSON Objects Inherit Parent Prototype Properties? by Felix Kling on stackoverflow.com

user315433

The first SO post of 2017 is dated by 2017-01-01 00:00:01.... Java8 - idiomatic way to process a Stream<Callable<...>> in parallel delivering to a sequential consumer? by Calculator on stackoverflow.com

user315433

The first SO question of 2017 is also about Java, and is not yet answered.

bjb568

jsfiddle.net/5a5fa9g1/embedded/result

user315433

On my screen, the second digit from the right changes more often than the last one.

bjb568

meh

Good argument to start using a nice prime base like 11 to count.

bjb568

4:55 AM

Wow, there's actually decent music and audio quality at timessquarenyc.org/nye.html

Just passed 180

Meh, ok, now the song is about Communism.

Well, there we are.

b_jonas

Happy New Year to the East Coast of the US.

user315433

Have fun, and watch out for Russian hackers out there.

bjb568

youtube.com/user/crazyrussianhacker

b_jonas

Don't chat while drunk, @b_jonas.

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bjb568

5:14 AM

So I thot of a great spoken language feature. The part of speech is determined by the final vowel of a word, and non-final vowels will all be the same, so words are clearly delineated and part of speech, if nothing else, is obvious.

user202362

now think about it, it's pretty sad, instead of building useful stuff, you spend your life looking for holes in other people's fences as a hacker

bjb568

Like muvo (to move), muvï (mover), muva (thing that is moved), muve (adj moved)

I'm taking linguistics next semester, I'll see about all my ideas.

Jon Ericson

5:35 AM

@bjb568 I misread that as logistics.

bjb568

That would probably be less interesting.

Jon Ericson

More moving, however.

animuson

5:48 AM

The view from my hotel. Happy new year!

user315433

Wow, an impressive shot of your hand holding a phone.

user315433

But yeah, the Canadian side view is really nice from up high. Way better than anything from south of the border.

animuson

It was really hard to angle it where you didn't also see all the rain on the window and my phone wasn't complaining that it couldn't focus because it was too close to the glass.

Eventually I just thought "ugh whatever it's not like this is going to be framed."

user315433

Now I miss Tim Hortons all of a sudden.

user202362

5:57 AM

and don't ya know any other tricks other than lagging me out of the chats?

user202362

same thing for over a year, if you are not bored, I sure am

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6:33 AM

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bjb568

3:04 PM

mew

user202362

new

bjb568

I can't tell if my resolution was starred because of how it wasn't a personal resolution or because everyone thinks it's ridiculous to increase military spending.

user315433

It's the only resolution made here for 2017, so it wins be default.

user315433

-1

A: Simple quiz program

I have to make kbc by python programing with a very fabulous programming please help in few minutes

user315433

Here's to more fabulous programming questions in 2017.

user202362

3:23 PM

My wish for the new year is: who ever plays with my chat accounts puts on 0.1kg every time my chat lags or getting deny of service from the server because of it

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4:04 PM

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bjb568

4:40 PM

Well, CommonApp hasn't crashed yet.

timeanddate.com/countdown/…

user315433

Countdown to what?

user315433

I mean, what's the significance of Jan 2?

bjb568

CommonApp deadline.

The culmination of childhood, of 18 years of life, all to be threaded thru the head of a pin. Adult life depends on this one deadline.

I only have one skewl for this deadline tho.

Makes me angry that the countdown doesn't say Jan 1 24:00.

user315433

Pretty sure 24:00 is not a valid time.

user315433

Just as 7:60 isn't.

user315433

4:55 PM

When I starred the resolution to increase military spending, I actually meant the United States should invest into conversion to what it calls "military time". Hope there was no misunderstanding.

bjb568

5:06 PM

@zaq It is.

@zaq 23:59:60 exists

user315433

As valid input or valid output?

user315433

Some parsers may be forgiving.

bjb568

A valid time in general. 24:00 is a special case in some spec for midnight, and 23:59:60 is a leap second, meaning the last minute of the day of the leap second officially has 61 seconds.

iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:8601:ed-3:v1:en

Nicer PDF: dotat.at/tmp/ISO_8601-2004_E.pdf

Leap seconds on page 4, 2.2.2

Alexis King

At this point, I think you could tell me that there was a whole year of Februaries in a small country in eastern Europe in the mid 18th century and I would believe you. I have accepted the fact that I will never understand date & time.

bjb568

5:22 PM

4.2.3, page 17 talks about midnight

user315433

@bjb568 Okay, 23:59:60 is valid time on the days with a leap second. Which January 1, 2017 is not.

user315433

24:00:00 is not valid in most contexts.

bjb568

It's valid in ISO8601, so it should be valid everywhere.

user315433

If you design a program that ever shows 24:00 to end user, you're likely to be punched.

bjb568

So you should show 11:59 PM instead?

user315433

5:36 PM

No, it's a convention that when you input 24:00 you mean 00:00 of the following day.

user315433

That's what I was talking about earlier, about it being valid for input.

bjb568

But outputs also make sense. Like street cleaning on 24:00.

user315433

Not really. Try making a street sign like this and see how it works.

bjb568

I think 11:59 PM street cleaning makes less sense. It has the wrong sig figs and causes cognitive dissonance.

Humanity can only make progress if it pushes ahead with what is right rather than simply favoring the status quo.

Viva la revolución!

user315433

Let's just get the U.S. to use 24 hour clock at all, and worry about 24:00:00 later.

user315433

5:55 PM

> Fun fact: there was a leap year bug that took 1/4th of Stack Overflow user profiles offline on Feb 29th, 2012... -- Nick Craver at 3:45 AM - 12 Sep 2016

user315433

6:10 PM

Is there a convincing reason to use T instead of space to separate date from time? Something that justifies the reduced readability and likelihood of wide adoption?

bjb568

Dunno.

@inf

Alexis King

Oh gosh, @Inf has multiplied.

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I suppose I shouldn’t be too surprised with the name “Infinite Recursion”…

user315433

Good question: Why is a comment not added for every close suggestion? On one hand, I'm in favor of fixing problems early (if possible), especially because "quickly closed, edited, quickly reopened" workflow is more of a dream than reality.

user315433

On another hand, I'm rarely in mood for pings from comments replying to a automatic close-reason comment.

user315433

On the third hand, some close votes are spurious and shouldn't bother the OP at all.

user315433

6:23 PM

On the fourth hand, SE is firmly against notifying users of things they might not like (e.g., a question being closed). "Nothing but good news" is pretty much their slogan.

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user315433

7:43 PM

If obstacle #4 wasn't present, I'd say "send an inbox notification when a question gets 2 close votes". As is, meh: it's on the OP.

user315433

7:58 PM

Five SE sites with *shortest* descriptions:
Q&A for программистов
Q&A for pro webmasters
Q&A for project managers
Q&A for network engineers
Q&A for プログラマーとプログラミングに熱心の人

user315433

Five SE sites with *longest* descriptions:
Q&A for Data science professionals, Machine Learning specialists, and those interested in learning more about the field
Q&A for researchers and developers who explore the principles of a system through analysis of its structure, function, and operation
Q&A for vintage-computer hobbyists interested in restoring, preserving, and using the classic computer and gaming systems of yesteryear
Q&A for people interested in conceptual questions about life and challenges in a world where "cognitive" functions can be mimicked in purely digital environment

user315433

Not surprised by the last one.

user315433

Also, a possible quiz: guess what these sites are...

user315433

The capitalization in "for Data science professionals" looks wrong. Either capitalize both words in "Data Science" or neither.

user315433

The description of Freelancing has an extra space in it: "Q&A for self-employed and freelance workers"

rene

8:15 PM

The extra space is to create a dramatic silence to build up excitement?

user315433

I couldn't leave this important matter not attended to... Inconsistent capitalization in site's description by zaq on meta.datascience.stackexchange.com

user315433

Couldn't find any place where the extra space in Freelancing was visible, however.

rene

Well, if you decide to be as annoying as possible in 2017 you better give it a good start

user315433

What can I do, I just care about creating, delivering, and maintaining software responsibly.

user315433

Also: every site description explains what kind of people the site is for, except one. There is one site description which is not about the audience but about what happens on the site...

user315433

8:28 PM

> Code Review: Q&A for peer programmer code reviews

rene

Maybe it is a sign that if you can't describe what your site is for in a few words there is some issue

user315433

(There is also Meta Stack Exchange, which is "for meta-discussion of the Stack Exchange family of Q&A websites" but that is an exception by design.)

rene

@zaq Q&A for Code Reviewers and Reviewees ?

That sounds probably as bad as it looks

user315433

> for programmers wishing to engage in peer code review

user315433

Um. Yeah. Could be better.

rene

8:38 PM

It is a bit of both ofc. You need users that ask questions to have their code reviewed, while you need capable people that write answer that both judge AND offer ways to improve.

My answers would probably go: My guts say this is not good

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user315433

LQRQ is empty but H&I has 260 posts... holiday mood skews reviews toward helping and improving?

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9:10 PM

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Shadow Wizard

9:30 PM

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/a/289135/152859

rene

I just del voted it

user315433

Looks like spam to me, metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/51958 -- moot point, the post is gone now.

rene

yeah, I assumed the link went to an comment on-site

Didn't really check it

Shadow Wizard

Let's hope spammer won't spam again... :)

user315433

The top answer there is by James... who hasn't posted on Meta since October 2015.

user315433

9:43 PM

I remember the time when pretty much every post got a voluminous answer from him...

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9:56 PM

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user315433

10:14 PM

> It's somehow worse when not only does no one answer your Stack Overflow question, but no one even bothers downvote it for no reason -- Matt at 1:49 PM - 1 Jan 2017

Shadow Wizard

@zaq nope. Top answer there is by Ben...

user315433

Right, I had it sorted by active

Shadow Wizard

oh, lol

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