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sekrit
user202362
00:16
@Telkitty You’re looking at the “invited” tab.
user202362
I clicked on the the rooms button, still the same
user202362
try the link yourself: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms
@Telkitty You have to click on “all” in the submenu. Try this link, instead: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms?tab=all
user202362
lol, not very intuitive
user202362
when the chat room says 13, I expect to click on the rooms button and see 13 chats
user202362
00:29
when I clicked on the users button, I saw a list of users
user202362
no consistency ...
user315433
Joel, now WordPress-powered, is back to blogging: Developers’ side projects
user315433
> (goes off to check my own projects, and to check if I'm currently sleeping with any of my bosses...) -- Marc Gravell at 4:36 PM - 9 Dec 2016
user202362
I know that sometimes pets have to sleep with their owners ...
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user202362
00:44
purely platonic ...
@zaq As someone who does a whole lot of OSS in my free time, that’s a fascinating article. I hope Joel’s return continues! There are a lot of old blog posts of his that I still think about a lot (many of which were written before I even started programming).
I was 3 years old when he wrote Things You Should Never Do, Part I‌​, but it’s still an amazing read.
(In fact, that article was published a day after my third birthday. :D)
@AlexisKing Not only are you making me feel old, but also dumb. I couldn't read at age 3. :-(
Hahaha. I think I could read the word “exit” (from seeing it on exit signs) and about nothing else. :)
user202362
00:59
On the scale new born to antique I am probably a crab nebula
user202362
I too, probably can't read when I was 3. But I led a little girl of my age and walked from my parents house to my grandparents house 3km+ away when I was 3. Because there were always snacks waiting for me at grandparents place. Nobody knew about it until I reached my grandparents place too.
@AlexisKing That article reminds me of the Git of Theseus article that was going around Twitter.
user202362
01:58
@zaq and oh, I was aware of it nearly 10 years ago - one of my first few jobs was with a American company (had 6 professional jobs before turning 28, totally not a hopper ... and that's after graduate with major and minors in 5 different disciplines).
user202362
I joked with my aunty that I was writing a novel, in the unlikely event of my novel sold for $$$, does the copyright belongs to the company that I was working for at the time while employed as a software developer?
user202362
Thinking back, by 28, I studied and worked in altogether 5 different countries too (Australia, China, singapore, UK & US), lol. I am so weird.
user202362
also ... the novel was still half written and probably never gets completed
user202362
but I have a copy somewhere
user202362
also, I don't know why people don't thoroughly read their contract
user202362
02:07
nearly every contract I read, the contract is in favour of those who prepared it (which makes sense)
user202362
but agreements/contracts are LEGAL BINDING documents, don't sign unless you understand it's implications
02:49
imgur DNS borked
Very borked.
user202362
03:48
user202362
'the little red riding hood is mine', trolling husky says
user202362
please, finding a smaller girl or grow bigger, doesn't look like you can do much damage to a woman 5 times your size ...
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this one is even better - the wolf/dog seems to be scared of the girl
user202362
04:03
user202362
04:28
Red riding hood (by Telkitty™). Once upon a time, a fat, middle aged woman named Sarah went to visit her sick grandma in the woods with food wearing a red riding hood. In the national park, she saw a stray baby husky and started to have evil thoughts. She baited husky with food, then with a swift swipe, captured the baby husky. When she reached her grandma's home, her grandma was not at home. 'strange, she must not really being sick then', Sarah thought.
user202362
She then proceeded to eat through the food she brought for her grandma. Tired, she went to bed with the little husky. But being a stingy woman, Sarah decided to not use electricity or firewood, she threw in the husky first, let him warm her bed. After the bed was warm, she undresses and got in. Little husky moaned softly, being tightly hugged by a fat, hairy, sweaty woman with smelly feet.
user202362
But this can not be heard because Sarah's snore was much, much louder. Luckily for the little husky, the grandma came back after a few hours. She rang the rspca, and they rescued the little husky. THE END.
07:58
flagged as rude ^ now gone
08:53
Hi there!
@SmokeDetector are you a bot or user?
Looking at the transcript I would guess it is an user. The rest are bots...
ok @rene
Just out of curiosity (to do statistics), is it possible to get a list of users with more/less than X questions and/or with more/less than Y answers? What kind of request?
@Basj yes, that is possible
09:15
Thanks @rene. How would you combine both conditions? i.e. more than 1000 answers, less than 100 questions?
@Basj highly inefficient but this gives a result: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/…
09:57
@rene: some people have answers count = 0 with your query whereas they have > 0 answers (maybe it's becaus their answer has been edited by someone else?) do you have any idea?
Oh, that is the null case I think
What is it?
@Basj give one example, the query is correct afaict
q=1000, a=10 for example (here its more than 1000q, less than 10 a)
Here for example user Blank*** appears with 2099/0 whereas he has 16 a
@rene do you see the same?
@Basj no, I don't
10:11
@rene Have you run my query (forked from yours)? I just swapped > and < to get people who have more than ... questions, and less than ... answers
@rene Ohh I see: it's 0 when it's a self-answer to someone's own questions . I don't see where is this set in the query?
no, it is broken
@rene, yes it's something else. It's the query itself select owneruserid as userid, count(*) q, 0 a, if this is not updated by union, it stays a=0
That's right!
@rene I'm going to post on meta the question, do you prefer to post the link to the query yourself as an answer, or I post the answer as well community wiki?
feel free to do that, I'm not emotionally attached to it.
not sure if that q/a would be immensely useful though, I even recall it is somewhere in the basic query examples
thanks @rene
 
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user340193
13:14
Is it possible to tell SE to migrate the comment discussion to chat before it talks about it in a message?
15:02
@MarkYisri you can also flag one of the comments and ask a moderator to delete the comments or move to chat, assuming they're no longer relevant or turned into a discussion.
15:20
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 days ago, by Madara Uchiha
Note to self: If you want to reach the TypeScript repl, do not google for "ts playground".
37 messages moved to Chimney
Hey @rene I have a git question.
oh boy ...
Let's say I have the same repo checked out, up to date, on two machines. Then I make different changes on each of them.
Then on one I push. Then when I push on the other it gives the expected equivalent of "your local copy is not up to date". So I pull, then push.
Even when there's no conflicts, it ends up committing this weird pointless little merge thing to the repo.
Is there a way to not have that happen? It's super annoying.
I've got a few devs working on different parts of the same repo independently and there's these dumb little no-op merges everywhere.
Hmm, I don't think you can for merges but maybe squash is what you're looking for
Oh OK I'll give that a shot.
I'm still used to SVN, where update -> commit was sane.
Maybe squash will at least cut down on the commits. Those weird merges don't even make sense. Like it'll end up with the expected commit with associated changes, then later a merge that shows the exact same changelog, even though the change was already present. It feels more broken than useful.
@JasonC I usually will do a rebase on the second machine for that - git pull --rebase
15:32
Thanks guys. I'm reading this thing about rebase I found just now, it's starting to make more sense.
If not comfortable with git and you are a visual learner, this is a great learning resource for git branching: pcottle.github.io/learnGitBranching
Holy crap this looks like fun. I know what I'm gonna be doing for the next half hour.
:P
OMG the background is even my favorite color!
hahaha
15:36
@zaq isn't that a link to your script? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/34527571#34527571
Oh there is @Gothdo already ...
@rene I was just about to ping him.
yeah, I wasn't sure if you knew this place ;)
15:55
devdocs.io! LOOK HOW COOL THIS IS!
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devdoodle.net LOOK AT HOW KEWL THIS IS!
16:58
I knew it ...
user315433
17:22
Current status: recommending people to other people...
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user image
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American style for the most part, but sometimes mixing in a bit of European/British.
17:34
@rene So...
git reset filename doesn't undo changes.
git checkout does nothing.
All the docs about undoing uncommitted changes are a lie.
Do you know how to undo changes to a file?
git checkout to a previous version locally doesn't change the file?
Ah it's git checkout filename. All the docs say git checkout branchname which does nothing.
I have screwed up that so many times that I'm pretty sure that works
Because "checkout" is totally a word that means undo.
I hate git. I hate it more every minute.
Just imagine that you're a kernel developer.
Because then you love it
It was after all designed for that use case
17:37
Yeah, except, I'm not. I'm a person who uses English and knows what words are supposed to mean.
Linus is Swedish, get some Knäckebröd and you're on your way
And I'm definitely not feeling the whole git add --all ; git commit -a ; git push instead of svn commit.
The idea is to have much more small commits on your local repo, before you push
I'm pretty sure the only reason anybody bothered sticking with git is sites like github offset the stupidity.
@rene There's no real reason for that.
As in your use case, or in general?
17:43
With svn, or even cvs, you make a branch, you do your incremental commits, you merge it back in when you're satisfied. People do the same with git anyways, the only difference is with git they end up sending all the changes in one big block at the end instead of scattered throughout, which is functionally the same.
In general.
Yeah, the difference is (if it is a difference) that git assumes you have many trackable local commits, without the need for a server
Which has a "cool factor" but accomplishes nothing.
Except the moderate benefit of being able to commit things if you don't have an internet connection. Which, who cares these days, you always have an internet connection.
SVN and commits don't work on a plane, at least not at the time when Linus was in control of kernel development but had to scale up the number of devs
that ^^
So git was created to solve the problem of making commits on an airplane for the brief 2 year period where not every long flight had internet access yet. Not worth it.
Also, lol, COMMITS ON A PLANE.
18:11
Just use a GUI for git…
blasphemy ...
19:04
I finally figured out how to calculate my GPA. Way too complicated.
user315433
In college, it's the weighted average by credit hours. High school is probably using something strange for AP exams and such.
It's completely undocumented, but there are actually *four* factors.
1) number of credits (0.5 for a semester, unless it's a double-bell class which would make it 0.75, or PE where it will be 0.25, and it's 1 for a semester of dual enrollment probably because the system's broken)
2) grade (quantized to F,D,C,B,A 0,1,2,3,4)
3) multiplier (1 for regular class, 1.25 for advanced, 1.5 for AP/dual enrollment)
4) do we care (1 for all classes except fine arts, health, and PE which get 0)
Unweighted is SUM((1)*(2))/SUM((1))
Weighted is SUM((1)*(2)*(3)*(4))/SUM((1)*(4))
Nowhere at all does it say fine arts classes don't count for weighted GPA.
user315433
19:25
@Shog9 Now my notification shows there are 110 Chinese spam in JS Documentation requests! Oh, wait. There is 685 requests in JS documentation.. — Sen Jacob 3 hours ago
user315433
Awwwww... shit. — Shog9 ♦ 28 mins ago
user315433
Fun way to spend a weekend.
user315433
Luckily, JS documentation is exactly what one needs to write a request-rejecting userscript.
...which is now running.
unfortunately, dismissals are rate-limited at 1 every two seconds, and user destruction is rate-limited at 1 every 5 seconds.
user315433
19:31
I was curious about the creation rate of these, but it seems there are no timestamps on requests.
user315433
I can see the timestamps by navigating to user profile, though.
user315433
Irregular intervals 1 to 10 minutes.
19:54
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How to run testcases on one browser by Yuriy Babay on sqa.stackexchange.com
@Shog9 do you need us to help rejecting those as well?
20:19
@bjb568 It's probably subject to change at a moment's notice, if they feel including them can boost average weighted GPA's and be useful for their marketing.
Probably.
@rene naw, I'll get through it
OK
20:39
trying to put up Christmas lights & change oil on the car too, so... just slightly distracted
@Shog9 no problem SOCVR is also on top of it.
@rene yeah, I noticed when my requests started 404ing all of a sudden ;-P
but it's empty now, with most of the users involved destroyed
OK, great.
unfortunately, Docs is still not using SpamRam, so it's double important to make sure the users are destroyed / suspended
(that at least works now)
We'll keep the scripts handy then and an eye on the requests ...
21:20
@rene I have a script ready to go that'll dismiss any request and destroy the associated user if the title is more than 25% CJK... Not going to run it unless I need to, but...
...gotta get something else done today or the wife'll kill me
OK, sure, better keep the wife happy yes ...
user315433
My achievement for today: inducting students into an honor society, pme-math.org
user315433
Which is something we still do in the 21st century for some reason.
You find that unnecessary?
user315433
21:36
I think some countries manage just fine without such traditions.
Maybe it is more important to the individual?
to boost confidence?
user315433
Perhaps. In that case, I like this one more than individual awards that require M letters of recommendation for each of N candidates, producing a small amount of recognition for N*M amount of effort.
user315433
But there ought to be even more efficient ways, more of self-service kind...
@zaq that is just ... weird ...

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