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user315433

12:44 AM

Stuck late in the office grading :( and Amazon Music is down. :((

hichris123

@zaq youtube.com

user315433

I doubt that Youtube will have the 96-track Deluxe Edition of Mellon Collie & Infinite Sadness.

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user315433

Which is what I wanted to listen to, given the nature of grading.

hichris123

Perhaps someone should try some different music. ;)

user315433

Any finite amount of sadness would not suffice.

user315433

12:55 AM

OTOH, Friday is the last day of classes. A super-happy hour.

user202362

let's admit it, u r sad coz u didn't c kitteh - here, haz a kitteh (coz I am all sympathetic) ...

user202362

bjb568

ViewChicago Live 2016 - Episode 7

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user315433

1:12 AM

As an undergrad, I was blissfully unaware of the term "Liberal Arts". Kind of wish it stayed this way.

bjb568

s/Ar/Far/

user315433

@zaq 92 tracks, actually. (They are back up.)

Shog9

1:38 AM

Good to be the student who lands on "Porcelena" I guess

user315433

And unlucky ones get Zero.

user202362

1:51 AM

what's good to land on will depend on how far you fall from ... for example, a student who falls from a 3 story building will be lucky to land on a gigantic piece of feta (cheese)

bjb568

I'd be pretty happy to land on a huge block of cheese. Think of the concentrated value! Think of the pizza-making opportunity!

If it's big enough to cushion a fall, it'd probably be worth over $10k.

user315433

> Remember the good old days, when you could post a namespace into the URL bar to google it…and it wasn’t a random .services TLD landing page? pic.twitter.com/fylYCwv8ks -- Nick Craver at 5:48 PM - 6 Dec 2016

user315433

Nick has an interesting combination of extensions and bookmarks.

user202362

@bjb568 also depends on the type of cheese - for example, cheddar is not a good type to land on for a long fall

bjb568

Air bubbles are probably pretty good.

user315433

2:02 AM

One of them is Special:Random from Wikipedia. A form of self-education, I guess.

bwDraco

@zaq Doesn't Special:Random just return a random article?

user202362

random is just random, what about this 'special' is all about then?

user315433

Yes, that's what it's for. Not something I'd bookmark... I prefer having a little more system to what I learn about.

bwDraco

Special: is used for dynamically-generated pages on Wikipedia. These include your watchlist (which tracks changes in selected pages), the login page, and system statistics.

Help:Special page

Special pages are pages that have no wikitext, but are generated by the software on demand. They are found in the "Special:" namespace. It is not possible to make a redirect to a special page, or to create normal pages beginning with the "Special:" prefix. Special pages often take arguments. Sometimes these can be supplied after a slash (as in Special:Log/block); in other cases an index.php call is used, as in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&days=3&limit=10. Also the content of some special pages depends on preferences that have been set by the user, e.g. classic...

user315433

> Q: stack exchange, quora, yahoo answers: which is the least useful?
> A: when asked, each will point to another, rock-papers-scissors style. https://twitter.com/nnnnicholas/status/806318835611668480

user315433

2:17 AM

Not true... Would be closed anywhere on SE.

user315433

2:35 AM

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/41008401

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2:52 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: what is the formula for resultant of two vectors? by Isidro De La Cruz on physics.stackexchange.com

user202362

I was almost in the mood to start telling a story about how a demons captured the mother of 3 siblings, so the 3 siblings set out to rescue their mother. In order to do that, they had to travel through a maze of riddles. So the oldest brother pulls out of a laptop and started to ask questions on reddit, although he did get some initial success, he was eventually engulfed by trolls. While the first brother battled trolls, the second sibling, a daughter, searched yahoo answers on her tablet.

user202362

She too, had some success. Then she posted a question and received no answers, so she waited and waited. The youngest sibling posted the question on SE network ...

user202362

then I decided to not waste my effort on someone/thing so boring, bye

approxiblue

@Telkitty noooo, what happened next?

user202362

3:23 AM

@approxiblue Many possibilities, currently 3 ending. But probably should write the ending when I am in a better mood (I don't want sound so sarcastic).

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4:06 AM

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user315433

> Head to any local department store and you will be bombarded with Anti Aging cream sales pitches.

user315433

Yeah... and even if you don't go there, you still will be.

bwDraco

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A: Is this avatar appropriate or offensive?

To get an idea of what we expect, users who use Gravatar for their avatars can only use images rated G or PG. We don't allow adult-only avatars. The way I'm seeing it, this avatar is NSFW and sexually explicit to the point where it is only appropriate for 17+ audiences. I would not consider it a...

Nine more upvotes needed for the Reversal badge :p

user315433

4:32 AM

I don't like turtles but turtles like me.

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4:42 AM

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5:08 AM

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5:21 AM

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5:37 AM

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Evan Carroll

5:58 AM

HALLO MY FRIENDS

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6:16 AM

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6:30 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: Collamask n that is a decent begin by Kristinaallen on drupal.stackexchange.com

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8:20 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: supplementstest.org/booty-pop-cream/ by janehartwick221 on apple.stackexchange.com

Derpy

8:43 AM

Make this guy a mod on Lifehacks. NOW.

rene

I hope he is full grown

Derpy

@rene that is the best part of this wonderful idea: the moment you realize your skin stretched and the ruler don't even work anymore.

rene

depending on your need you can use that feature to your advantage.

user202362

9:08 AM

I wouldn't mind getting one if there is a stick on tattoo such as this

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SmokeDetector

9:48 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: How do i restore files from the recycle bin of an external hard disk drive by RusselWood on superuser.com

Derpy

10:02 AM

about 600 seconds to the "less than 1kk to Winter Bash" jump

angussidney

Only 200 now

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Can I still pursue a research career after a possibly lengthy break? by garima on academia.stackexchange.com

angussidney

10:20 AM

Dammit, I missed the 1kk turnover

rene

10:42 AM

@angussidney you hoped for similar chaos as predicted for Y2K?

Derpy

11:27 AM

*Random* trivia of the day:
The first image on the Winter Bash 2015 recap blog post has Pinkie Pie on it.

bjb568

LA syllabus says tests are 15%, final 30%. Professor says that since final is a take home, it will be given about the same weight as a test. Now he says tests are 22% and final is 12%. o_0

user315433

12:02 PM

Calculate your grade under both schemes. If it's higher under the one on the syllabus, you have a good case for that being your grade.

user202362

12:12 PM

@rene Ppl like 2 have imaginary enemies, they just wouldn't admit to it

rene

12:24 PM

:)

user202362

12:41 PM

Is it me, or most of Jane Austen wrote mostly Mary Sue style main characters

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy another trivia: who is the guy in this photo?

status-not-enough-wet-wipes

@EvanCarroll hello, are you new here? ;)

rene

@ShadowWizard is it you?

Shadow Wizard

1:02 PM

rene

I give up

user315433

Less than 1,000,000 seconds until WB begins

Shadow Wizard

Yay!

@rene you give up fast...... :D

rene

Yes, I started here but I have more things to do today ...

Shadow Wizard

1:19 PM

@rene lol, you can just see my message history.... I made a mistake.... ;)

Anyway, the count down fits even a tiny screen

rene

are you still on Win7?

user202362

winterbash2066

user202362

@rene you are not asking me, so yes

rene

Why?

user202362

why not

Shadow Wizard

1:24 PM

@rene at work, yes. Got old IDE's that won't work on Win10

rene

@ShadowWizard Visual InterDev?

user202362

xcode

rene

@Telkitty it was hard to evade those upgrade popups.

user202362

win10 isn't full of ads?

rene

@Telkitty since when does xcode run on Win7?

@Telkitty not yet ...

Shadow Wizard

1:28 PM

@rene lolz... nope. :D

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Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty no, it just sends everything you do on the computer to Microsoft servers, they are still working on sending back proper ads.

user202362

a bit old, about 8 months ago, so ...

user202362

win7 is considered a stable version

user202362

1:30 PM

always use a stable version until the next stable version comes out

user315433

<-- still waiting for the next ~~stable~~ usable version of Windows after 7 to be released.

user315433

Grr, overescaping in @Doorknob's userscript.

rene

@Telkitty the win xp slice is a bit worrying

user202362

win xp was the last stable version before win7

Shadow Wizard

updated ^

user315433

1:34 PM

> now SEOs are recommending that clients remove all the user-generated content from their websites -- searchenginejournal.com/4-myths-google-panda-still-rounds/…

user315433

Hm, that's an idea...
Get rid of all the Stack Overflow posts, but make sure there's a phone number in a large font somewhere near top.

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty win10 is also stable, but big organizations take lots of time to upgrade

Our banks all still using Win98 with IE6 as far as I can tell and will probably still use it in 50 years too.

rene

Yeah, that is stable in the expected bugs ...

user202362

My goal is to upgrade as little as I need to, as long as I can get all my tasks done

user202362

Probably should get a new PC in a year or two

user202362

1:41 PM

that's when I upgrade

Bart

@ShadowWizard a leather tannery we worked with some years ago still used DOS ...

user202362

<---cobol on mainframe

user202362

although cobol is a language not an OS

Shadow Wizard

@Bart heh, that's just sad...

user202362

at the end of the day, it's about getting work done

user202362

1:46 PM

if you can get work done better with paper and pen so let it be

Shadow Wizard

better ^

user202362

lol

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Shadow Wizard

@JNat cross site spammer for you stackexchange.com/users/8568209/ux-studio?tab=accounts :)

"Member for 6 months" - pretty sure he spammed before and 100% sure he'll spam again unless nuked from orbit.

JNat

2:06 PM

@ShadowWizard gone

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Shadow Wizard

2:23 PM

@JNat awesome, thanks! :)

rene

@ShadowWizard I have witnessed the same issue last year. Emailed the team instead of posting on MSE.

Shadow Wizard

@rene oh. And?

It's not really "fatal", the name isn't displayed publicly anywhere.

rene

they suggested to post on meta, where I went meh

Shadow Wizard

(it's used probably for emails sent by the team, etc.)

@rene and... did you post something? (readies hammer)

rene

@ShadowWizard nope, you can leave your hammer where it is.

Shadow Wizard

2:30 PM

oh, no hammer. :(

I can try to reproduce by blanking out my real name on SO then create new account on some site...

rene

@ShadowWizard here are my repro steps it involved an error scenario though

Shadow Wizard

@rene oh, so the real name was used as display name... that's bad. I think you can post this as answer on Chris bug report, to help the devs fix it faster. No?

rene

Hmmm, don't think so

user202362

2:50 PM

rschrieken ... am I the only one who thinks of rschicken?

rene

I'm not sure, why should I?

Shadow Wizard

huh!

ProgramFOX

3:29 PM

@ShadowWizard Is that from GitHub? Where is that "Related Users" page?

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user315433

3:48 PM

9

Q: Temporary Anti-Spam measures are now in place

So you've been getting hammered. While we very much appreciate all of the hard work everyone has been doing to keep things clean, we feel like we should be making it easier for you. Hence, effective immediately, the threshold of spam / abuse flags required for a post to be automatically deleted ...

user315433

Was it really that bad recently? It seems the trend toward more spam on Workplace is months long.

user315433

There were worse days; my flag record has 13 Workplace spam flags on December 3.

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How can Manual QA's without a programming background learn Automated Testing? by harold knox on sqa.stackexchange.com

Bart

@zaq for a small-ish site, that's probably quite a lot

user315433

4:06 PM

Yeah, but it doesn't look like a sharp spike, metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…

user315433

The last two weeks have more spam than usual. Something to do with holiday shopping season?

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Selenium for Parasoft SOATest jython script by Walter Jenkins on sqa.stackexchange.com

user315433

!!/report sqa.stackexchange.com/a/24166

user315433

4:32 PM

And then the same on English? A Temporary Tweak to Work Around Abusive Posting Patterns by Tim Post on meta.english.stackexchange.com

user315433

I'd suggest Graphic Design instead.

user315433

But maybe this is more about trolling than regular spam.

Shadow Wizard

@ProgramFOX not directly: libraries.io/github/rschrieken

ProgramFOX

@ShadowWizard I see!

Shadow Wizard

:)

xkcdBot

5:00 PM

Today's xkcd comic (Never Seen Star Wars):

If anyone calls you on any weird detail, just say it's from the Jedi Prince book series, which contains so much random incongruous stuff that even most Expanded Universe/Legends fans collectively agreed to forget about it decades ago.

user315433

5:39 PM

> Is this full stack? I'm using HTML/JS/CSS knowledge to shrink a file served by a load balancer w/ buffer restrictions b/c of a broken proxy. -- Nick Craver at 9:31 AM - 7 Dec 2016

user315433

I understand most of those words, but not together in this order...

user315433

1

A: A Temporary Tweak to Work Around Abusive Posting Patterns

In the long run, please consider making a flag from high-rep users, e.g. over 15K or 20K, count double than other users. It will be more effective as I don't question their integrity and commitment to the site. It will really help the site respond to increasing number of low-quality posts and s...

user315433

I like this. Giving equal spam-fighting power to 15 rep user and 15,000 rep user is unnecessarily rigid.

user315433

Turn the knob one way, spam stays forever; turn another, some trigger-happy nuking happens.

user315433

And mods should have an easily accessible list of community-nuked posts. I think a FR for that exists already.

user315433

5:49 PM

My Google search results are shown in Roboto font now. What have I done to deserve this?

user315433

6:12 PM

> I am going to restricting my flagging to questions:
1. From 1-rep users,
2. who are evidently non-native speakers,
3. asking about: how to learn English grammar more easily, or auxiliaries, or modals, or present or past perfect, or comparisons of present and past [perfect] tenses, or has, had, have been and so on,
4. which are short and exhibit no research.

user315433

These are apparently criteria for spam/abusive flagging? meta.english.stackexchange.com/a/9812

user315433

ELU is a weird place.

Alexis King

6:41 PM

@zaq I don’t have 10k, but based on Tim’s comment, it sounds like these are malicious users posting seemingly-benign questions to build up enough rep to be abusive? I agree that flagging questions that fall under those criteria as spam seems awfully misguided, though.

user315433

7:11 PM

And the ensuing discussion in comments is a confused mix of quality-control vs help-new-users wedging into the discussion of fending-off-abuse.

user315433

About how own research is important or maybe not so important, and closure notices are confusing, etc.

user315433

> The concept of 'accepted answer' doesn't work well on Stack Overflow. Technologies change, newer answers further down are better. -- Damien Guard at 11:16 AM - 7 Dec 2016

user315433

> I think they should just order the answers by upvotes with some additional weighting for when the upvotes occurred. -- Damien Guard at 11:19 AM - 7 Dec 2016

user315433

Sounds familiar...

user315433

7:40 PM

user315433

Also sounds familiar. But reddit has no such hovertext for upvotes.

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Caleb Kleveter

8:44 PM

When does bash start? It's cold here and my badges will freeze.

user315433

!!/hats

SmokeDetector

@zaq WE LOVE HATS! Winter Bash will begin in 11 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 36 seconds.

user315433

Also, winterbash2016.stackexchange.com

user315433

Does anyone else think that after partially typing site name in the topbar's site switcher, we should be able to press down-arrow to select a site and press Enter to go there?

user315433

This is how drop-down lists tend to work, in my experience...

user315433

8:46 PM

Using Tab for this purpose doesn't come naturally to me. Tab is for moving focus between navigation elements, not for using one of them.

bjb568

Second countdowns make me feel old. The seconds go past almost 2.5x how fast they did a few years ago.

@zaq Down-arrow shouldn't be needed.

user315433

How do you select "United States" from a list of 200+ countries ordered alphabetically?

user315433

I press U to get Uganda or something, then down-arrow.

rene

Move to Uganda so you never have to select United States again?

bjb568

But for the browser search box, st enter goes to stackoverflow.com, without pressing down-arrow.

user315433

8:55 PM

Sometimes I want to visit one of the other 150+ sites, not necessarily one I visit daily.

user315433

Like, to find out what's the deal with ELU these days.

Shog9

9:24 PM

> What's a word that describes the current deal on EL&U?
I'm looking for a word or phrase that captures the current mood here.
[single-word-request] [totally-not-playing-crosswords-in-the-tavern]

@zaq I just keep hitting "U" until it comes up right.

Alexis King

@rene Life hack!!

rene

I'm so practical, it is scary ...

Alexis King

By the way, that reminds me, I haven’t seen a LH question in the HNQ list in forever. I feel like I did at one point, though. What’s the deal with that?

rene

@AlexisKing they hacked the life out of it?

Maybe ask @Frank

Shog9

9:41 PM

12

Q: How to open a frozen car door?

This evening I left work and found my 2-door car covered with a little ice and a lot of snow. I was able to unlock the driver side door, but the door was frozen stuck. I pulled on the handle and the door wouldn't budge. I tried pounding along the edges of the door frame with my hand to see if ...

winter car

12 answers, and no one has suggested urinating on it yet. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE GODS OF HNQ TURN THEIR BACKS ON YOU.

rene

go ahead, and write that answer ...

Don't forget to add baby-wipes to clean the door handle when done

that would be the ultimate life hack answer

Shog9

gotta work vinegar in there somewhere

Alexis King

@Shog9 Like 6 months ago I realized I wasn’t seeing LH in HNQ anymore and I seriously wondered if the site had been shuttered. I had… mixed feelings when I found out it was alive ~~and well~~.

Jon Ericson

Move someplace where car doors never freeze.

Alexis King

What happened, Lifehacks? You’re the clickbait of the SE network. You were the chosen one!

Shog9

9:52 PM

@AlexisKing We could never do that to Wipqozn.

rene

@JonEricson Uganda?

I said it again within an hour

Alexis King

I see @JasonC has rebranded himself now that he is no longer suspended and is at it again.

Jon Ericson

@rene I was thinking more like Hell, but that's also an option.

rene

@JonEricson that ... will do ...

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: why animals prefer lipids storage by poop on biology.stackexchange.com

user315433

10:06 PM

@AlexisKing Then WorldBuilding came along...

Alexis King

@zaq I wish I could ignore sites from my HNQ list. WB and Puzzling would be the first to go. Code Golf would probably follow.

user315433

Doable by a userscript...

user315433

4

Q: Hide sites from Hot Network Questions section

Screenshot About The 'Hot Network Questions' section has questions from websites which are not very interesting for me so with this script you can: Hide questions from those websites Stop hiding the site if you change your mind The settings are stored per browser so they work on all sites ...