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user315433

12:02 AM

user315433

From twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/798312233461837825

bjb568

12:19 AM

@AlexisKing o_0

Alexis King

@bjb568 I know, it sounds awful, but it’s actually pretty neat. Try it out: imgcap.com/album/YtCE0

(Ignore the last half or so, I didn’t write descriptions for those slides yet.)

bjb568

There's got to be some kind of sticky thing or something that'll make a similar layout.

Alexis King

If you can find one, I’ll gladly ditch mine. But it’s <100 lines of JS, about 30% of which are comments, and it seems to work flawlessly.

bjb568

Meh. Ok.

Alexis King

(Works on mobile, too, so as far as I can tell it doesn’t even have those usual pitfalls.)

hichris123

12:54 AM

@AlexisKing Phew, I totally expected that to be images of code and I wondered what you thought you were doing.

Alexis King

Apr 24 '15 at 3:05, by Alexis King

hichris123

I completely missed that one. :P

Alexis King

I added that question to my favorites before it was deleted so that when I hit 10k I could gaze upon its glory once more.

hichris123

Those three people are terrible. I mean, who deletes a question like that?

user315433

1:17 AM

0

Q: How to overheat Android phone?

How can I do this? I have big problem with very cold winter while I'm waiting for a bus. I was searching for something, but everything I found is how to stop overheating. App with big size is not good on my phone. This can be something for rooted smartphone. Thanks, Kacas.

user315433

The four newest questions on Hinduism are all Chinese spam. (Still not signing up, though)

hichris123

I've signed up and deleted my account twice in the past 20 minutes.

user315433

Do the flags survive the account deletion?

hichris123

Well, the score doesn't change back so I'd assume so...

user315433

Interesting. Sign up - flag - delete account - repeat five more times?

hichris123

1:23 AM

Might be possible. Not sure I'd want to try that though...

user315433

@hichris123 The downvote remains, but flag doesn't. I flagged this post at least 7 times, bringing score down to -14 (it was -3, there could be other flaggers). Still there.

user315433

Science!

user315433

I wonder what a mod will see when looking at the flags there...

user315433

1:42 AM

Looking at all the dudes nominated for @StackOverflow primaries and thinking about how much more $$ they could make with a diverse audience

Tweeted by bwest on November 14, 2016 at 8:11 PM

user315433

Probably, not that much more.

hichris123

@zaq Huh. Well, oh well then.

user315433

I think the flag becomes disputed, which keeps downvote there. Isn't this how disputing spam flags works?

hichris123

I thought disputing removed the downvote. But I don't remember.

user315433

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A: What happens to unresolved flags raised by a recently deleted user?

The flags remain in the queue. The user attached to the flags simply changes to the Community user.

user315433

1:55 AM

Hm. But they certainly don't have an expected cumulative effect.

user202362

2:29 AM

Now looking closely at game theory, it's basically saying: being a rational dickhead, you will benefit more economically

user202362

So now the dilemma becomes: what is more important - more $ or less guilt

user315433

> I don't see the point of coming on stackoverflow.com and answering to some of the recent questions, since it is not obvious doing that you'll learn many interesting stuffs -- meta.stackoverflow.com/q/337898

user315433

Sounds about right to me.

Aaron Hall

3:22 AM

@AlexisKing gotta link?

Alexis King

@AaronHall stackoverflow.com/questions/28230744/designing-a-gui-in-java

Aaron Hall

@zaq what the heck? who on earth is that?

Alexis King

@zaq I would certainly like a more diverse moderator team, but the connection to “making more money” does not really parse. Who could make more money? And why?

Shog9

3:35 AM

@AlexisKing ???

bjb568

SJWs fighting the good fight with massively oversimplified useless recommendations based largely on misunderstanding communicated in Twits.

Shog9

You don't worry about Step #2 until you've collected all the socks.

bjb568

Sure there'd be a potential problem if the proportion of females running was lower than the general number in the active community. But there's no stats for that.

Shog9

well, there are stats

bjb568

@Shog9 But they're all hiding.

Shog9

3:37 AM

But it doesn't really matter this year, since turnout in general has been poor

I... Think I prefer spring elections.

bjb568

@Shog9 Not really very good stats, since you can't force people to give you their gender.

Any the sample size for even nominees is tiny.

Shog9

well, you can, but you shouldn't. It's quite rude and illegal.

bjb568

Well, for sex you can check, but it's pretty hard for gender if they don't want to tell you.

I'd probably collect as much data as possible and feed it into some ML thing. It'd fail around the edge cases.

user202362

there are always sex change surgeries ...

user202362

all you need is good persuasion skillz

bjb568

3:39 AM

@Telkitty Right. So we'd have to look at the actual chromosome 23 for that.

user202362

also get people to get tans

user202362

or take pictures in dark rooms

Alexis King

@Shog9 What are you asking? I’m as confused as you are.

Shog9

@AlexisKing no, that was the answer

Alexis King

Oh. Well that clears it right up.

user315433

3:44 AM

The turnout is low, but it looks like a combination of seasonal trend with the general decline of the Universe.

user315433

I mean, even slugster didn't nominate. That's a first.

user315433

Possible cause: having the question collection in advance has a chilling effect. Partly because of the questions being asked there, and partly because some strong candidates were able to nominate immediately, putting breaks on the enthusiasm of amateurs.

user315433

Unrelated: I spam flagged that Hinduism post 10 times, because the green topbar thing had 1000 in association bonus when I was done.

Shog9

ha

user315433

So what happened to my flags?

Shog9

3:49 AM

they're still there

user202362

if you clicked a few times more because of shaky hand syndrome, I suggest you to drink less tea/coffee/alcohol and take less drugs

user315433

But 10 spam flags should be enough to nuke a post. Do Community owned flags count?

Shog9

They don't count because they're cleared immediate upon deletion.

user315433

Then that answer by Animuson is wrong or outdated. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/267289/…

Shog9

Some russian kid beat you to this particular exploit, and abused it so persistently we had to fix it.

user202362

3:52 AM

why do I think of vlad or YCS?

Shog9

beats me

user202362

Also I cursed neighbourhood bird 10 times after it shitted purple under-digested fruit on my bed sheet on the clothes line, nothing happened. NOTHING!!! The bird just stood on the tree and stared at me, probably thinking I am an idiot.

user315433

But after the flags are cleared, downvotes stay on the post... So I can downvote any post a bunch of times in this way.

bjb568

You can do a lot of things with the SE system. Don't.

Most things that aren't often abused don't really need to be fixed with software.

Shog9

@zaq the downvotes age away after a bit (I forget how long it takes)

user315433

3:57 AM

@bjb568 Well said. Maybe you should have run for a mod after all.

bjb568

:p

Aaron Hall

:3

user202362

sometimes, I reminds myself to not take advice from someone who can't get a spam post deleted after spending 30 minutes trying then came to a chat to whine about it

hichris123

→ 7 messages moved to Chimney

Shog9

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A: What happens to unresolved flags raised by a recently deleted user?

When a user is deleted, their flags are assigned to Community, and the status of unresolved flags is set to UserDeleted with the exception of "Other" flags which are kept unresolved (and thus will remain in the queue). This is similar to the behavior of flags on deleted posts, where Other flags...

hichris123

4:05 AM

@Telkitty You mean SmokeDetector? Yeah, that user doesn't give very good advice, unfortunately.

user202362

:D

user315433

5:28 AM

-5

Q: 2016 Moderator Election

Why ? Moderator elections are conducted in Stack Exchange (2016 Moderator Election ),how elected moderator helps the Stacker.

discussion meta

user315433

And then we wonder why this and not another candidate got elected.

user315433

Bhargav Rao pulled ahead of deceze once India woked up. The top 3 are likely to stay as they are. (And the top 3 nearly always become mods, though not necessarily right after the election).

user202362

5:44 AM

I wonder whether it's legit to ask a question such as 'Selling Australia magpies to Asia as pets - restrictions'

Shadow Wizard

10:42 AM

Final delete vote needed on this answer @rene @Bart

That was quick, @Bart! :D

Bart

I'm so fast

Shadow Wizard

Not faster than light though....

Derpy

@ShadowWizard oh, but there are post that disappear faster than that, trust me. Logs are full of those. The only problem is that they disappear before light can even reach them, so they end up being invisible to your untrained eyes.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy that's why I keep training... ;)

Derpy

the button is still there.

Shadow Wizard

10:55 AM

@Derpy don't let it become rusty.... ;)

SNAFU

1:07 PM

Dear @StackOverflow users, You may experience WebSocket errors over the next hour as we beat the hell out of them in the name of science.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on November 15, 2016 at 12:41 PM

Shadow Wizard

@SNAFU ouch

Magisch

2:57 PM

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@Magisch Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring

Magisch

!!/reboot

hichris123

!!/reboot

Shadow Wizard

whoa, poor Smokey

Probably Nick is to blame, breaking the web sockets

!!/status

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard Running since 14:56:31 UTC (1 minute)

Shadow Wizard

3:01 PM

@TimStone any chance to do something about this?

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Q: SEDE should pick up on changes to community metadata

It appears that site meta data isn't updated in SEDE. As an example, Moderators.SE was renamed to Community Building in December 2014. It is still listed in SEDE as Moderators.SE, as of July 2015. To search for Community Building data, we need to search the "Moderators" community: It is not l...

bug data-explorer

Feeds

3:13 PM

Stack Overflow Blog: How We Make Money at Stack Overflow: 2016 Edition

posted on November 15, 2016 by Nick Craver

I’m Nick Craver, and you may remember me from my posts about how Stack Overflow does deployment, how we do hardware, and how we built our architecture.

user315433

3:46 PM

Meetup pictures don't all fit there, but a nice post anyway.

user315433

Was there a 2014.. 2015.. edition? Didn't think so.

user315433

Speaking of money: where is Sklivvz going with Non English SO-like sites collection? I conjecture it's to get ideas for navigation (not to buy and import those sites en masse).

Derpy

@Feeds printing.stackexchange.com?

user315433

> Do you have any idea how ******* rare that is?

user315433

Search confirms this being the first f-bomb in the blog, excluding the comments. Kind of doesn't really belong if you ask me.

Shadow Wizard

3:59 PM

@zaq flag

Derpy

The day ADS will be legally required to be hosted by the hosting site instead that references to file on other servers I never asked to open and the hosting site will be legally required to ensure that they don't contain malvertising I will think about enabling them back. Not before.

So, good for Stack to have chosen the "few ads" path, but I probably wouldn't have seen remote content anyway.

user315433

The new job search blog post didn't get much time to bask in the glory of Community Bulletin.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

Cool I am @ l337 :-)

user315433

Features missing from the blog: (a) previous post / next post links. (b) chronological archive (by year/month). (c) search of any kind.

user315433

Could just as well post on a Facebook Page and save themselves the headache of maintaining the blog.

Derpy

4:07 PM

@zaq could as well have the articles on a "news" page on the site and actually have the users notice them. I wonder how many people read the blog

Bart

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA hah, do you want us to keep you there? :p

I think this is one of the few elections where I have difficulty coming up with 3 good candidates.

user315433

I'm surprised that everyone is over 1K in the positive territory. Is there a worldwide shortage of down-facing arrows?

Andy

@Bart I not below flattery if you vote for me.

Bart

Maybe I already did ... maybe I didn't.

Andy

Maybe I'll complement you...maybe I won't

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

4:27 PM

@Bart ;-P

Bart

I'm honestly suprised Sergey still got so many votes.

Andy

I'm surprised at Jigar too.

Bart

4:45 PM

Other years there were candidates with negative counts ... did we get ... to positive?

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

5:02 PM

idk. I think people do not fully understand the process this year (and there are many many more users)

Oded

5:40 PM

@zaq [es.so] in chat: Stack Overflow en español

Bart

Stack Overflow en español put a tiger in your tank

:p

hichris123

5:53 PM

@Bart Because so many are good or so many are bad?

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