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12:04 AM
Russell Steen is still a mod on The Great Outdoors, looks like a long goodbye.
in The Base Camp on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Oct 18 at 0:10, by Russell Steen
My official goodbye to outdoors. It's been good here, but it's time to move on to other things. Peace.
My official goodbye to outdoors.
home confinement?
poor thing ...
1:48 AM
2:04 AM
Websites to hackers are like pullets in the open field waiting for hawks to spot and violate. Sometimes hawks are stronger but other times, chickens are bigger. On the other hand, your personal account are like baby quails - much easier to bully but much harder to spot
8:13 AM
@Telkitty the fact that most of the internet related protocol have been built with a total disregard of security and only later we attempted to "patch up" all the holes by throwing in additional layers of complexity.... does not help at all.
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Q: Let's Plan The Second Iteration Of The Stack Exchange Quality Project!

Tim PostIn case you missed the first one, check out the se-quality-project tag. The quality project isn't one that we plan to ever finish, it's perennial and kicks in every 18 months or so after we've had ample opportunity to observe the efficacy of our previous efforts, changes in how people use our sit...

^ Since I'm not on Meta that often, I was wondering whether someone has suggested in the past to have tag-specific reviews. So for example on Stack Overflow, why should I be asked to review a question when I have no experience in the language, and subsequently cannot tell whether sufficient information has been provided?
@Zaid You can filter your reviews according to tags
@M.A.R. where?
The Review page doesn't show any such option
@Zaid review itself. I've never used it since reviews aren't that much where I come from.
@Zaid There should be a blue 'filter' button beside each of the queues when you review
Go to Close Votes for instance, and click 'filter'.
@M.A.R. oh wow, thanks for that
1:24 PM
Why isn't this option made more visible?
@Zaid You want it to blink or something?
There are a zillion buttons out there that should be made more visible.
So if all of them are visible, none of them are visible.
Well, the 1000+ review items is the most visible item I can see at the top of the SO page. Hardly inviting
Then again, why should I have to set the filter manually? I think it's worth suggesting an automated filter
In your most upvoted tag? Makes sense.
Yes. It isn't perfect but it's better than asking the human me to go through questions that I'm not qualified to go through
1:31 PM
But I reckon you'd get comments like 'I have a score of x in [tag] and I don't know anything about it'

 SO Close Vote Reviewers

This room is for support and discussion about reviewing and co...
In case you're not aware of it, this room is full of SO close voters.
BBL taking a nap
1:43 PM
A: Let's Plan The Second Iteration Of The Stack Exchange Quality Project!

ZaidFor sites with large review queues, automatically set the review filters based on the user's most "active" tag(s) I can't be humanly expected to review 1000+ questions/answers on Stack Overflow Yet that is the expectation conveyed to me whenever I glance at the top bar. I don't grok half the q...

#ThrowbackTuesday via Jason Punyon
@zaq All hailz ze Beard!
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sword might be longer, but knife is more practical in day to day life
1:58 PM
After Atwood, there is no CTO anymore. VP of Engineering seems the nearest equivalent.
sometimes I think that you might be a bot, but I constantly deny such a thought because then I would be insulting myself for teasing a robot
You look at someone with a kid in their avatar, you think to yourself 'what a genius'. Then you realise that it's the adult not the kid that's the user.
@Telkitty Disclaimer: every reference to @ShadowWizard was purely casual?
When is helloween btw
@Derpy surly shadow is a genius ... if he's the first one who came up with the idea ...
3:04 PM
Too early to order a pint of hoppiness?
4:03 PM
Can someone have a look at this edit for me and tell me I'm not going mad? Seems the added paper has nothing to do with Stack Exchange at all (unless I'm missing something...)
@Cai, I don't think you are crazy. I don't see any references to Stack Overflow/Exchange in the paper
@Andy I had a quick scan of the paper (as well as doing a search for "Stack" which returned nothing) and it doesn't even seem related to me
4:31 PM
how about now?
4:41 PM
@Telkitty not the first and not the last... but honestly my kids just look lot better than me... :D
@Telkitty who? @zaq? He's just a normal human. :)
4:53 PM
Think we should rename "Nice Answer" to "Nooice Answer!" badges?
@Cai, there is a pending edit on the question, but the original editor, to remove the paper.
5:16 PM
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Yeah, it's a hard question...
@Andy thanks for having a look at that for me, I would have said something myself I wasn't 100% sure I wasn't missing something though :)
@Andy The only outcome is the original author gaining 4 unsolicited rep.
5:35 PM
@M.A.R. that could have been solved if rollback would have undone the approval (hence removing the +2), but that's not the case. Anyway, looks like honest mistake on the editor's side, blame is on those who approved without taking a look.
6:07 PM
1 hour ago, by Aaron Hall
Think we should rename "Nice Answer" to "Nooice Answer!" badges?
I'm still pondering on this one.
@ShadowWizard we might ping @ArtOfCode for that
I think I can pay the other approver a home visit ...
6:30 PM
@rene hm?
@ArtOfCode your offense here ;)
@rene huh. I just assumed the paper has something to do with SE, given that it does get used as a recommendation engine
@ArtOfCode well, that is a very liberate explanation. The word stack doesn't exist in that paper.
which I didn't read
which is the problem ;)
I admit that edits on that specific question needs a lot of background research to judge correctly
6:36 PM
I looked at the title of the paper, it sounded like it was about analysing recommendation systems, which SE gets used as. Assuming good faith that it does actually refer to SE, that's a valid paper to include.
I have had similar issues in the past
Had the title had nothing to do with SE, I might have looked up the paper.
But asking reviewers to go find and review a full academic paper, which may or may not be in text-searchable format, is going a little far if the paper sounds like the kind of thing that would refer to SE.
Yeah, the q/a wiki exists to collect papers that actually use or analyse the SE data or study SE in particular. I'll forgive you, OK?
7:01 PM
One hour until the end of Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair election
@zaq Wow, what the candidate scores
They're too high for a just-graduated site
Belated graduation. But despite high CS it wasn't easy for me to decide on whom to support.
One of the candidates lost my vote because of this post
@zaq Eh, they're a mod already?
7:08 PM
Pro tem mod.
Oh, pro tempore
Well, such posts aren't uncommon at smaller sites.
But not being welcoming because of downvotes?
Mechanics is also somewhat different from programming/science sites in that a question asker can't really expect to have the actual work done for them...
If humans learned not to be so ridiculously nice all the time, they would've traveled along the galaxy by now.
Spreading downvotes and closevotes.
Rory is unsurprisingly the top candidate in moderation thingies.
> Winners are Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2, DucatiKiller, and Bob Cross.
So much for moving more comments link to top.
When repeatedly refreshing the election page I saw "election closes momentarily", then "election closes just now", and then "election ended just now".
> 1,189 voters were eligible, 455 visited the site during the election, 327 visited the election page, and 200 voted
Decent turnout for the first election.
8:07 PM
And... this is it for the time being. No other elections scheduled or even announced... hmm, I wonder why... is a big SO-related announcement coming?
Or more likely, the team prefer not to hold elections during the meetup.
I'll be announcing some tests within the next 3 or so weeks, as well as a survey that's shown to brand new users after they ask their first question. tl;dr; - we think we know how to optimize the ask page to get good results, but we want to confirm that we're correct here - or a really good idea might get shelved due to a series of poorly constructed tests. — Tim Post ♦ 1 hour ago
Imagine something like:
> On the scale of 0 to 10, how would your rate your experience asking a Stack Overflow question?
@zaq we'd prefer not to have elections when we are at the meetup
8:15 PM
@zaq is that asked before or after their question got closed?
@zaq it's a bit more detailed
the scale is up to 100?
Usual problems ahead, getting a self-selected sample of those 1% who bothered to fill out the survey.
It might be more fruitful to send someone over when they are about to ask their first question.
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8:38 PM
@zaq Yeah. My fears were unfounded.
@JonEricson would you call off an election on low turn-out?
Not voting is also a kind of vote
@rene We've delayed elections for not enough nominees. I'm not sure we've stopped an election because not enough voters show up. I'm more concerned with the effect on the democratic process.
The number of nominees is a clear call. Voter turnout is a different beast.
I think you should be clear about that upfront then. The election is invalid if less then 10% of the eligible voters turn up.
Oh, a question about something related was just deleted maybe caused by my unfriendly comments
I'm a bad flower
8:55 PM
@rene guess we'll have to wait and see
@rene heh, wasn't aware he's pingable here... and yeah, that specific question is big headache, personally I'd probably just skip such edit suggestions unless I'm bored and have spare time to read part of the document being suggested.
@bluefeet if you need someone for pre-test, let me know
@ShadowWizard yeah, I tried to argue about that with Art but I doubt that I convinced him. It didn't help that he had some good points, as always ...
So I gave up ...
9:30 PM
@ShadowWizard It's rene's fault.
Yeah, true.
10:18 PM
> 294 voters were eligible, 96 visited the site during the election, 46 visited the election page, and 25 voted DIY election #1
So, 25 voters and < 10% of electorate, still enough.
There were 4 elections where <5% of electorate voted: SU 2011, SO 2012, SF 2012, and SO 2013.
An election has never been called off because of low voter turnout.
10:49 PM
My CS professor just said that people pronounce Gauss as gauche o_0
Never heard that, luckily. There's a wiki page for that, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:De-carlfriedrichgauss.ogg
> We are seeking a Strategic Customer Success Representative to work on Stack Overflow Talent [...] the position will be out of our San Francisco WeWork office stackoverflow.com/company/work-here/490210/…
> in business school they assume that if a sample size is greater than 30 the distribution is gaussian
^ gold
Which one of these eight locations? wework.com/locations/san-francisco
@zaq A strategic customer success rep, not an nonstrategic customer success rep.
11:06 PM
Browsed the WeWork location, the descriptions are pretty much the same, except for geographic details and location managers. The latter presented a bit of contrast:
Imagine if the person on the left was wearing a tank top exposing tattoos.
Probably wouldn't work as a business photo.
that's because if it's more than 30 people, they can't all be weirdos thus: gaussian /normal distribution :p
11:49 PM
I wrote up an internal community request to do this automatically. However, due to time it will probably be a few weeks before this gets reviewed. — Jon Ericson ♦ 30 mins ago
No rush, the feature request was there since March 2014.
(Made by me, back when my username was apparently inspired by some debate on meta.math.)
Although if we're moving in that direction, it makes sense to revise the rejection process, e.g., so that only "off-topic" closure rejects migration.

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