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12:00 AM

I do love virtualization, and Linode <3

@drachenstern Looks pretty solid. Note that I'm as JS rusty as can be. I need to get up to it, still working on handling canadian ZIP codes.

Dan Grossman

yesterday, by Dan Grossman

JavaScript: The Good Parts

Douglas Crockford

Yahoo Press

Most programming languages contain good and bad parts, but JavaScript has more than its share of the bad, having been developed and released in a hurry before it could be refined. This authoritative book scrapes away these bad features to reveal a subset of JavaScript that's more reliable, readable, and maintainable than the language as a whole-a subset you can use to create truly extensible and efficient code. Considered the JavaScript expert by many people in the development community, author Douglas Crockford identifies the abundance of good ideas that make JavaScript an outstanding object-oriented programming language-ideas such as functions, loose typing, dynamic objects, and an expressive object literal notation. Unfortunately, these good ideas are mixed in with bad and downright awful ideas, like a programming model based on global variables. When Java applets failed, JavaScript became the language of the Web by default, making its popularity almost completely independent of its qualities as a programming language. In JavaScript: The Good Parts, Crockford finally digs through the steaming pile of good intentions and blunders to give you a detailed look at all the genuinely elegant parts of JavaScript, including:Syntax Objects Functions Inheritance Arrays Regular expressions Methods Style Beautiful features The real beauty? As you move ahead with the subset of JavaScript that this book presents, you'll also sidestep the need to unlearn all the bad parts. Of course, …

Moshe

@DanGrossman Yes, but I'm broke too. :-)

Dan Grossman

Hmm

I could give it to you for free.

Moshe

@DanGrossman Okay...

How so?

Dan Grossman

12:02 AM

The last page of the book says "Try the online edition free for 45 days. Go to oreilly.com/go/safarienabled and enter the coupon code SNOZRBI"

Moshe

And I need to sign in, no?

Dan Grossman

I guess so

Moshe

@DanGrossman Okay, I'm in.

Thank you.

Sweet!

\o/

Dan Grossman

OpenSSH recompiled, now I need to build a newer version of Apache

Now on 2.2.17, better

In another 4 hours, I should pass the PCI scan :/

drachenstern

12:24 AM

I can haz townhallchat?

Moshe

Interesting stuff going on here...

@drachenstern - I was using $("#div").load("google...."); but I want to grab the data in a variable, not load into a div.

I'm working on $.get now...

ideas?

Dan Grossman

$.ajax({
  url: "http://whatever.google.com",
  success: function(data) {
    //your data is in data!
  }
});

Moshe

@DanGrossman I know, see the Javascript room, please.

chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/17/javascript

drachenstern

@DanGrossman concur

Moshe

1 min ago, by Moshe

JavaScript

Discussion for JavaScript and the many frameworks - jQuery, Pr...

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drachenstern

12:39 AM

nom nom nom ~ I so love slow roasted pork in a rich au jus, with creamy garlicy mashed potatoes, and green beans, and a tall glass of juice to go with

Tim Stone

@drachenstern Ah, I wish I had the kind of energy necessary to make such things.

badp

@DanGrossman yo dawg I herd you like data

drachenstern

@TimStone I believe it cost me about $0.30 in energy costs ... and about $6 tops in materials, cos you see, I believe firmly in letting Betty and Hormel do the cooking, at the expense of sodium

goes for two meals too!

Tim Stone

:P

drachenstern

You see!!! And the best part, took all of 12 minutes to nuke the whole thing :D

nom nom nom

badp

12:46 AM

Hm, something special is about to happen.

SuperSpecial?

nah

@badp what's that?

@drachenstern Nothing you'd care about.

drachenstern

Try me and see sir ;)

@Moshe you're too much ...

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 47 secs ago, by Moshe

How do I use JSONP?

Moshe

12:53 AM

@drachenstern I'm not in always in touch with the terminologies. I am lazy and fail to Google before asking

drachenstern

@Moshe yes I know this

@Moshe read this blog: wearehathway.com/blog/tech/…

Moshe

@drachenstern Thanks.

Dan Grossman

> "We are exceeding the amount of water the city's water system can produce at one time" -- Mythbusters

drachenstern

@DanGrossman I love that episode (assumes it's the flying car from waterjets one)

Dan Grossman

@drachenstern :nods:

Moshe

12:58 AM

Thanks guys.

I have to be somewhere in 120 seconds. Cya

George Marian

Android and iOS get a little Minecraft love - Time-wasting goes mobile

drachenstern

@Moshe read this too: zipmaps.net

ok ya'll, THC starts nao!

badp

The first Python version, 0.9.0, was released on Feb 20, 1991. Python 3.2.0 was released exactly 20 years later, on Feb 20, 2011.

Tweeted by gvanrossum on February 23, 2011 at 6:59 PM

yeey

Dan Grossman

@drachenstern You might not want to broadcast your drug use habits so publicly

George Marian

Heh, I'm using 2.6.

drachenstern

1:01 AM

@DanGrossman yes yes, and if anyone follows the context of this chat for more than ten minutes they know it's a Town Hall Chat :p

Dan Grossman

@drachenstern The NSA machines sitting on every tier 1 backbone slurping up all the text don't know context! The local authorities have been contacted so that you can be sentenced to 10 times more prison time than if you had run someone over with your car.

drachenstern

@DanGrossman nice ;)

George Marian

lol

Dan Grossman

1:31 AM

I have amish macaroni salad. Yum.

George Marian

@DanGrossman What makes it Amish?

Dan Grossman

@GeorgeMarian The recipe. Instead of just mayo they use mayo, mustard and vinegar, or somethin'. I don't know but it tastes good and grocery stores in PA sell it

Dan Grossman

1:59 AM

TIL @ircmaxell's avatar says "Help! I'm trapped in a bar-code factory!"

George Marian

@DanGrossman Ah, yes. PA.

> Invitations come from your peers. We’ll give members a few invites to distribute to programmers they know and trust. Or, contribute to Stack Overflow (and our other sites), get voted up by a lot of smart people, and you may get an automatic invite.

waffles

2:26 AM

everything you wanted to know about the Epic badge (and were afraid to ask)

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A: Epic badge with too few days hitting the reputation cap?

Congrats on getting the Epic badge, it is a really hard badge to get! There are many little subtleties going on that I should explain. Badges look at current rep levels in the DB There are certain edge cases where rep levels in the DB do not match the rep report. The rep report show what you...

Michael Mrozek

@waffles I have a question about the Epic badge: why am I too much of a failure to get it? WHY?

Also, IIRC you're the one responsible for privilege wikis, so I blame you for another user confused by the "view vote counts" wiki

drachenstern

I want to know why rep is so hard for me to get passively!

Michael Mrozek

@drachenstern Seriously; I already posted stuff last week, and they want me to post stuff again?

Tim Stone

I asked and answered a question today.

Ignore the fact that Popular Demand had to spoon-feed it to me.

drachenstern

@MichaelMrozek I know!

Michael Mrozek

2:33 AM

@TimStone Most SO answers secretly come from @PopularDemand. He's the puppet master behind the scenes

Dan Grossman

Wait, we can ask questions? I thought only anonymous Google surfers could do that...

Tim Stone

@DanGrossman Well, it was a MSO question. And it wasn't a question, it was a bug report. And it was [status-bydesign]. But, still.

mootinator

2:46 AM

@DanGrossman I thought there was a maximum age for asking questions.

drachenstern

Ok, I had a good THC. I also have managed to piss the wife off. So I'm gone. I should be back at the "normal" time tomorrow

Pearsonartphoto

3:04 AM

Wow, it's amazing to see actual arguments in a chat room...

Dan Grossman

I've achieved the gapless activity histogram

@Pearsonartphoto Arguments? Where?

Pearsonartphoto

SFF

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/198/science-fiction

I'd probably post in the Teacher's lounge, but one of them is a mod, so...

It's starting to cool off, finally, but it was going on for maybe a good 10-15 minutes...

Dan Grossman

Someone just started a support chat with me to get help using some other website. "They don't have any support and you do, so I thought you'd help"... ...

mootinator

3:46 AM

Uhh...

We get that a lot actually.

Dan Grossman

What is going through their heads? :p

George Marian

4:18 AM

@DanGrossman LOL

Mark Elliot

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Q: about malloc calloc and realloc

whenever we write the program using malloc , calloc and realloc where does the varies go and sit, i.e in which part of the memory do they go and reside. also whether the variables (in all cases) are allotted a contiguous space or the variables go and sit wherever the space is available

c

good candidate for closing as dupe before too many others add less-good answers than the duped question

mootinator

I'll get back to you on that one in approximately 1000 rep :/

Tim Stone

Closed.

mootinator

\o.

Er, \o/

Mark Elliot

yay

so why is it that approving/rejecting edit suggestions shows up in the activity log but closing stuff still doesn't?

Tim Stone

4:35 AM

Hmm

That's a good question, I'm not sure if anyone has brought that up yet or not.

George Marian

Because, we don't want people to know how we voted...oh, wait...

lol

Hooray!

@TimStone it seems to come up frequently, but now I'm confused, if they're going to show edit votes I have to imagine they should show closing votes

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Q: Add a "voted to close" activity event somewhere on the user profile page

Often when I vote to close, I want to go back and check the comments on the question, to see if it's been improved, to comment further, or to answer the question. It would be helpful to add a bit of a trail so I can find those questions again. I'm suggesting adding an event to the Activity page ...

feature-request vote-to-close profile-page recent-activity

George Marian

4:41 AM

@DanGrossman So unexpected downtime was worth it, afterall.... ;)

@MarkElliot Oh, in that case it'll get fixed like the envelope was fixed.

Mark Elliot

@GeorgeMarian sorry, I don't understand

Tim Stone

@GeorgeMarian lawlz

George Marian

@MarkElliot It's only been a year. You gotta give it more time. :)

Dan Grossman

Now I'm trying to write a mail to send to my users, sending it to myself, and it's ending up getting binned as spam :(

Mark Elliot

@GeorgeMarian ah, got it, so I have no hope for my other recent suggestion...

George Marian

4:43 AM

And, even then, it won't be completely fixed. ;)

Mark Elliot

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Q: Show full question or excerpt in suggested edits page for tag-only edits

It's difficult to determine whether a suggested edit that consists of only modifications to tags is reasonable without the context of the question. For instance, today I saw this suggested edit and had to click through to the question to determine whether it was worth approving or rejecting. Why...

feature-request suggested-edits

Tim Stone

I would have thought @waffles would have fixed that already. I gave one of my precious up votes to that suggestion. I demand satisfaction!

mootinator

I hate answering questions where the solution seems blindingly obvious to me.

Mark Elliot

@mootinator but answering isn't for you, it's for the asker

well, it's not always for you

Tim Stone

@mootinator I think I feel the same way about voting...maybe that's where my issue is.

mootinator

4:45 AM

Well, as often as not I've missed some detail and they think I'm insulting their intelligence.

George Marian

@mootinator Well, hopefully that means there's a better chance that you'll be the FGITW on that question.

@mootinator Ah, yes. There is that.

Dan Grossman

X-Spam-Threshold: 95
X-Spam-Score: 100
Precedence: junk
X-Spam-Flag: YES

Mark Elliot

5:16 AM

YAY! meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/80320/…

Tim Stone

:D

Moshe

5:52 AM

Almost done, yay!

I got the query working, now I need to get the string broken up into bits. Then I populate the fields and move on to styling.

\0/

Dan Grossman

6:25 AM

:sends 26,000 mails:

Michael Mrozek

6:43 AM

> But the funny thing is, Quora isn't even the most popular Q&A startup out there right now. According to Alexa and Compete, that would be Stack Overflow

Rebecca Chernoff

My Google Alerts emails were going crazy today. (:

Moshe

@MichaelMrozek, notice the last line. Something about a "benevolent dictator". Hehe, isn't that @JeffAtwood's line?

@DanGrossman, how do I attach an image to a PHP mail(); email?

Dan Grossman

@Moshe Very much manually, by base64-encoding it and generating the appropriate MIME boundaries per the e-mail specification yourself.

OR, you can use a mail library instead of mail().

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