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2:18 AM

I don't understand our translators sometimes.

Compare:

With:

See what I mean?

Plus the Portuguese one still has NAA.

The Portuguese just has "spam" whereas in a remarkable moment for truth in advertising the Spanish has "undesirable content". Well, or "undesired", you know.

I’m thinking that the Portuguese translators got an older version of the SO flags than the Spanish translators got. The NAA isn't the only clue to that there.

Not totally surprising, given the history.

But you cannot even say "spam" in Portuguese (or Spanish). Liquid s's are forbidden, which is why you have "España" for "Spain", etc.

Es esepamo. Todo es esepamo. jajaja

By liquid s, I mean one hanging out there all nekkid in front the p.

I'm going to tell your parents you're still awake.

Spam

Los términos correo basura y mensaje basura hacen referencia a los mensajes no solicitados, no deseados o con remitente no conocido (correo anónimo), habitualmente de tipo publicitario, generalmente enviados en grandes cantidades (incluso masivas) que perjudican de alguna o varias maneras al receptor. La acción de enviar dichos mensajes se denomina spamming. La palabra equivalente en inglés, spam, proviene de la época de la segunda guerra mundial, cuando los familiares de los soldados en guerra les enviaban comida enlatada; entre estas comidas enlatadas se encontraba una carne enlatada llamada...

@tchrist Are there enough vowels yet?

correo basura = rubbish/garbage mail

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2:26 AM

Tisn't.

Tis now 22:27.

> La acción de enviar dichos mensajes se denomina spamming.

espami

espamin

That's how it would come out, with the final -n further back than in English.

That's why you have estof signs.

Because they can't say "st-" either. Or for that matter end a word in "-p". It's like Japanese. Their mouths only go so many ways, and those aren't they.

soo too puh

Mind you, I know plenty of native speakers of Portuguese or Spanish who speak excellent, even perfect, English. I'm talking about monoglots.

@bjb568 Japanese like to add the -u.

Spanish turns the stop into a fricative. You'll get an -f or what you would spell -th, but they would spell -z.

Chinese do something like uh.

2:32 AM

Notice the first and last words.

Madriz. Juventuz.

They're spelling them the way they say them, as a sort of cultural joke.

Those should of course be -d but the madrileños say those words in a way that to you sounds like the consonant end of English both.

Huh.

Well, an intervocalic -d- is always pronounced like the middle of English rather everywhere. And there is no minimal pair between a final stop and a final fricative, so it doesn’t matter what they say at the end. Only at the start of a word (well, utterance) or after a consonant like -n- or -l- is the d a stop and even then it’s dental not alveolar.

When there is no minimal pair, which allophone a person makes does not matter. This is true in all languages. It's just that the minimal pairs vary.

Ok, I've thot about linguistically stuff enough today. That's maxed out my quota. Kitten brain will explode if more input is added.

Do you really rhyme thot and cot?

They seem a bit different.

2:45 AM

Are you a cot–caught merger? Are those said identically for you?

Shog9

that cat is caught on the cot

I’m not a merger because I’m not really from the Far West.

The Great Lakes area and the East aren't mergers, mostly. Southern California is, but the Bay Area isn't.

The t is pronounced later on cot than caught or thot.

I would think you round your lips on caught, thought, dog, all.

Cloth.

Don ≠ Dawn

There are some people in Ohio who are starting to merge cot and caught. It’s a known phenomenon.

Shog9

Out here, it seems to be hill and heel

2:53 AM

The Texans are gaining on us.

> The fill–feel merger is a conditioned merger of the vowels /ɪ/ and /iː/ before /l/ that occurs in some dialects of American English. The heaviest concentration of the merger is found in, but not necessarily confined to Southern American English: in North Carolina, eastern Tennessee, northern Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana (but not New Orleans), and west-central Texas (Labov, Ash, and Boberg 2006: 69-73).

That's the one you're referring to.

I associate it with the South, or Texas.

They can actually turn those into two syllables, like heeyul.

That's what the IPA is saying to me.

Or maybe it's the whiskey.

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