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> I can literally feel my IQ dropping just from watching this. All knowledge stored in my brain is now leaking out. There goes first grade... There goes my first semester of college... There goes potty training...

Jin

@RebeccaChernoff why don't you find out?

Rebecca Chernoff

@TheRenamedException was thinking of meta photo

The Renamed Exception

12:11 AM

@RebeccaChernoff oh so it is, I have only been there maybe once

Jin

@badp IQ is overate

badp

@Jin deeerp.

The Renamed Exception

Hmmmm

@drachenstern I double upvoted you:

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Q: Clarification on StackApps "App" vs "Script"

Pursuant to a chat conversation there's some clarification needed on what it means for a stackapp to be an app or a script. I'm posting this for the community and for future searchers and as a bit of a FAQ (sorta) If you haven't heard about this, read Jeff's latest blog entry Stack Apps and Scri...

discussion

drachenstern

@TheRenamedException ha! Thanks ;)

The Renamed Exception

Once on meta and once on stackapps

is that a bug? :-)

Rebecca Chernoff

12:12 AM

Ok, I admit it. I started laughing around the 1:30 mark.

drachenstern

@TheRenamedException I noticed ;)

Jin

Speaking of Batman, this answer is epic. quora.com/…

drachenstern

@TheRenamedException no, that's been asked before. We're supposed to smile and be gracious ;)

Jin

yes, i'll be tarred for linking to a Quora question here... but it's Batman

Tim Stone

@TheRenamedException I'm sure that's [status-bydesign]

In the "Ugh, there's no point in addressing that" sense. :P

The Renamed Exception

12:13 AM

status-good-for-drachenstern

Tim Stone

We really should have a [status-meh] tag.

5

The Renamed Exception

status-DO-WANT

Tim Stone

It would be much more appropriate than [status-bydesign] on some posts, heh.

Rebecca Chernoff

@Jin where are you with the accepted answer for this question?

Jin

@RebeccaChernoff I'm surprised they haven't banned me for that profile desc.

The Renamed Exception

12:17 AM

OK, well, I have a solution (I hope) for this nasty selection bug that my customer found. So now I will go off to find food. Somebody in here has been talking about soup and making me very hungry. I won't name any names or point fingers...

Rebecca Chernoff

Change your name to Jin Jin and they'll ban you until you send them a scan of your id. (:

Tim Stone

@TheRenamedException Someone's making me soup? That's nice of them.

The Renamed Exception

@TimStone Yes. She goes by the name BECKERS

runs away

Tim Stone

:o

Rebecca Chernoff

/applianceKill @TheRenamedException

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drachenstern

12:22 AM

:O

Tim Stone

You can kill people by throwing appliances at them using the gravity gun in HL2:DM, by the way.

Right up your alley.

So, about this soup...

Rebecca Chernoff

Right, so I've got work to do! (:

Tim Stone

Bah!

Rebecca Chernoff

Anyways, I'm not making soup. It was just getting talked about and I'm craving it.

Tim Stone

Ah, well...that's unfortunate.

Ah, what good timing...

	setInterval(function () {
		if (localStorage[clipping.storageName] != null) {
			clipping.items = JSON.parse(localStorage[clipping.storageName]);
		} else {
			clipping.items = [];
		}
	}, 2500);

@YiJiang, why do we do that?

Rebecca Chernoff

12:29 AM

which part? the delay or the test logic?

Yi Jiang

@TimStone Sync localStorage clips across all chatroom tabs that might be open

Tim Stone

@YiJiang Ahh, alright.

Dan Grossman

12:46 AM

Whee, GoDaddy finally issued the SSL cert, now node.js is running HTTP and HTTPS :)

Tim Stone

@DanGrossman Hooray!

Dan Grossman

Comcast is awfully slow this week.

100ms ping and 1.2mbps down... I think I should reboot everything.

Yi Jiang

1:13 AM

I wonder if it would be possible to extend addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-badge to work with SO chat

Tim Stone

1:25 AM

@YiJiang Hmm

drachenstern

Fml, a whole 90 minutes of work left to be done and my wife is freaking out for me to be home and not working ... Dammit, now I'm gonna forget what I need to finish :(

Tim Stone

:/

@MichaelMrozek You're wrong, because reality isn't what I want it to be. shakes fist Heh ( context )

Maxim Zaslavsky

is anybody home?

Michael Mrozek

@TimStone I can't remember what I did, but it's @RebeccaChernoff's fault

Tim Stone

@MichaelMrozek Yeah, the context part came after the fact, sorry about that. That being said, you're surely right.

Michael Mrozek

1:34 AM

Oh, that. Yeah, he kind of converted the post from a question about how tags work to a discussion about how you can get screwed out of Taxonomist

I had a worse one sometime recently, where somebody asked how something worked and I answered, and got downvoted because the person didn't like that that was how it worked

Tim Stone

Ahh, disagreeing with reality. Good stuff.

Rebecca Chernoff

@MichaelMrozek never!

Michael Mrozek

Turns out it's actually not :(. This time

Tim Stone

Hmm, the script might be up to 1500 lines now (livequery inclusive).

Yi Jiang

@TimStone Can't you just pack livequery into a single line?

Tim Stone

1:40 AM

I also suspect there'll be a 0% chance of it working correctly the first go, heh.

@YiJiang Yeah, not sure that it makes much difference either way though.

Dan Grossman

Now I'm getting 12.5mbps down, something needed a reboot.

@Maxim 'sup

Yi Jiang

My Puny Human Brain - Jeopardy! genius Ken Jennings on what it's like to play against a supercomputer.

Michael Mrozek

> Watson has lots in common with a top-ranked human Jeopardy! player: It's very smart, very fast, speaks in an uneven monotone, and has never known the touch of a woman.

I didn't realize Daily Doubles are non-random. I assumed Watson was scanning Trebek's thoughts to help locate them

Michael Mrozek

2:07 AM

This is really good too:

►

mootinator

2:25 AM

Toronto??????

mootinator

2:37 AM

Has Monday off, do you?

badp

no

Michael Mrozek

3:00 AM

Is Monday a holiday?

Tim Stone

Canada doesn't have presidents..

calls shenanigans

@MichaelMrozek It's apparently Presidents' Day, according to the advertisements I keep getting for sales.

Dan Grossman

I need to send out an advertisement for a sale, after I make up a sale.

mootinator

It's a provincial holiday apparently invented by the Alberta government called "Family Day" in most places that everyone else decided to copy.

Tim Stone

Ah, nice.

mootinator

Family Day (Canada)

In most of Canada, Family Day is a statutory holiday occurring on the third Monday in February. In the provinces of Manitoba and Prince Edward Island, the statutory holiday on this date is instead termed Louis Riel Day and Islander Day, respectively. This corresponds with Presidents Day in the United States. The third Monday in February is a regular working day in British Columbia, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and the territories. As Family Day is not currently recognized in the federal sphere, federal employees in all provinces (such as public servants and postal workers) still ...

Dan Grossman

3:41 AM

> The manual says MySQL will clear the cached queries when their data changes, but is that true? Or should I reset the query cache manually all the time?

Are you really asking if the manual is lying? Gosh, I'm easily irritated.

drachenstern

@Dan no more easily than I am

Dan Grossman

4:16 AM

Darn users, getting upset when I move links to their reports without telling them :p

Yi Jiang

4:39 AM

I can feel a sore throat developing, urgh...

Tyler Chacha

Hello

Dan Grossman

Hi @TylerChacha

Tyler Chacha

72 hour to finish a robot

Maxim Zaslavsky

5:00 AM

nice! good luck @TylerChacha

Tim Stone

6:06 AM

shakes finger at chat

Maxim Zaslavsky

?

Tim Stone

It's doing something it shouldn't be under the hood. Now to find out why, and then who to blame. :P

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Tim Stone

6:47 AM

Turns out it's not chat at all o_O

Tim Stone

7:16 AM

Oh look, another Chrome scope bug...

Nyuszika7H

7:54 AM

Hi! :)

Jeff

391 1 7

r rapache ggplot2 terminal customization data plot

Yi Jiang

9:23 AM

Looks like the 'delete post after one year of inactivity' process' started already

Nyuszika7H

7

Q: Inbox bug: Processing html tags (XSS possible?)

I received a comment reply on this topic, since it was like this I though the comment was deleted or something like that, but then I noticed the topic title has html tags. These tags are being processed on the inbox resulting in: comment on without ? @BrunoLM: a slight grayish (#222) bol...

bug status-completed global-inbox

too bad, that has been fixed :P

badp

11:18 AM

@YiJiang is that for all questions?!

Yi Jiang

@badp I believe so, within the criteria Jeff set out in that Meta post

badp

yeah, found it now

in Game Development on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Feb 11 at 4:12, by Josh Petrie

I am so irresponsible, and I don't even get to get a cool story out of it :( http://code.google.com/p/slimdx/source/detail?r=1928#

Yi Jiang

techcrunch.com/2011/02/18/…

6

Q: Was Java originally designed for a toaster?

I've heard this tossed around few times, but never really a source. The wiki page says it was designed for home appliances, but never really references a toaster. Anyone have a source?

programming-languages java

Wil

11:52 AM

To anyone who is interested, we are doing a game later -

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11

Q: Stack Exchange wide gaming night!

UPDATED - NEXT @18:00GMT 19th Feb Hi everyone! By posting this, I feel like this will become one of those Facebook parties where the entire house gets trashed... Crossing my fingers that it will not be like that! Just for the fun of it, a few of us are trying to hold a gaming night - So far it...

discussion stackexchange fun games till-someone-loses-an-eye

Jez

12:45 PM

Anyone interested in languages? Come and follow my French language proposal: area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/29480/french-language

badp

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Le bon usage du français [French usage]

Proposed Q&A site for people who have questions regarding the correct use of the French language, whether spoken or written. It is not about translating. Questions can be submitted in English or in French.

Currently in defintion.

although I really don't see the point in having a SE for each and every language known to mankind

I'd much rather have something with a wider scope.

Pekka

@badp How dare you put down my planned Volapük proposal!

badp

@Pekka l wouldn't oppose a börkbörkbörk.SE

Pekka

@badp yeah, and Klingon

Seriously though, I think the "bon usage" type sites are fine

Seeing as the audiences do not overlap

A french linguist has no interest in sharing a site with an english or german linguist

It's different for translations - I could see the use of one huge site for that

At least from and to english

badp

A Python expert has nothing to share with a C# expert?

Pekka

12:56 PM

@badp , programmers always have some overlap

They converse in english, and have various interests

balpha

Jon Skeet is pretty good in Python, so that doesn't count :)

Pekka

Linguists will want to deal with their subject matter in their native language, which takes away all potential linguistic overlap there might be

badp

@Pekka Yeah, that's the other problem, those per-language sites would be in that one language. How'd a learner ask?

Pekka

@badp yeah. That is probably the biggest obstacle right now

badp

"I haff bin want lern herr Deutsche-Lankuage ya?"

Pekka

1:00 PM

@badp yeah :) It wouldn't work.

badp

...I mean, okay, fair enough, English.SE has the exact same problem.

The difference is that English is the de-facto lingua franca of the internets. Deal.

Would I mind asking in Italian? No. Would I reach an as wide audience? No. Would that help the internet become a better place? Not as much. Do non-English-mothertongue countries teach English anyway? Yeah.

Pekka

@badp still, a "bon usage" site where the main language is english is doomed

badp

which is why I'd rather see a Latin Languages SE

Spanish, Portoguese, French, Italian, Greek, ...

Pekka

@badp interesting, that might work

At least for Spanish and Italian I think

The scandinavian languages could have one too

(Danish, Swedish and Norwegian)

badp

Yeah, that probably means "Latin Languages" isn't wide enough

what about German? Anglosaxon languages are partly covered by English.

Do we want another AskUbuntu vs Unix/Linux issue?

Pekka

1:04 PM

@badp my 2 cents is it's not going to work. If you want German linguists to participate in such a site, the language needs to be German, and probably even the UI.

Same for French and essentially every other big language where speakers aren't forced to learn good english.

badp

I think SO iterates too fast to ever be translated tbh

Italians are taught English for 10-13 fucking years and have no damn excuse

Pekka

@badp I'm thinking the same thing - especially seeing as it's not just the UI that needs translating, it's the whole culture

badp

especially when you have certain elements such as badge names hardcoded in the SQL, but who'd do that? ducks

Pekka

The countless Meta discussions about every damn subject... Jeff's blog posts that partly have gospel-like status when deciding on-topic questions.....

@badp hahahaha

The Renamed Exception

Morning everyone yawns

Pekka

1:06 PM

@TheRenamedException Good morning!

badp

@Pekka Well, they're not as much gospel as they are official guidelines

They were priceless to let Gaming reach a decision about gamerecs e.g.

Pekka

@badp yup, that's what I mean. And theoretically, those blog posts would have to be localized to some extent... Or you'd need a Jeff-like community evangelist for every language

Which is hard

badp

@RebeccaChernoff just needs to learn a couple more hundred languages

piece of cake.

The Renamed Exception

@badp ROFLOL

badp

or, they could exploit their 144 mods which I guess aren't all English mothertongues

The Renamed Exception

1:10 PM

I obviously came in at the last minute here, but from what I just read I think you're right @Pekka. SE "language" sites would probably have to be in the language they were about in order to get the best audiences as well as all the associated materials, and that's a lot of work

Pekka

@TheRenamedException yeah. From what I've seen, linguists tend to be very fond of their language

badp

like, uh, Stefano Palazzo for Italian passes barrel

Pekka

and partly very un-fond of others

The Renamed Exception

But I'm not sure about needing the blog localized. I think people who are that fond of SE could participate in the other SE sites, blog, mso etc, in English. IDK

Personally it was always finding StackOveflow in google searches and seeing the answers that made me want to join and hooked me. I didn't start reading the blog until maybe 6+ months after I joined

badp

The blog is useful when closing new users' questions

The Renamed Exception

1:13 PM

and even then, only when people would point me there on meta, lol

Pekka

@TheRenamedException yeah, it's possible that the culture can permeate through a number of community members who can speak both languages

Nyuszika7H

status-closed

1

Stack Overflow, not closed

Proposed Q&A site for addicts favoring fun questions and discussions about programming and computing. Recently I posted a "fun" question on Stack Overflow, but it was closed within 5 minutes of posting. Please tell me which site I can use?

Currently in defintion.

Pekka

Meta.SO, the capital, will always be an english-language site

The Renamed Exception

@Nyuszika7H hahaha

Pekka

All right, off to buy ingredients for lunch. Later!

The Renamed Exception

1:15 PM

Later @Pekka!

Nyuszika7H

193

User Interface – ui.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for user interface researchers and experts

Currently in public beta.

This site will launch soon!

The Renamed Exception

yey!

I need to pay more attention to that site

badp

anyway, I wrote about my take on localization some time ago:

5

A: Are there any plans for localized Ask Ubuntu instances?

I think people are more frustrated by having problems they can't solve. When the asker speaks Danish and the guy who could write the best answer to that question speaks Turk, everybody loses. Having everybody use English instead, even if it's poor English, is far better. It's not a matter of te...

The Renamed Exception

@badp very well said

badp

I think my meta question, Hot brown on brown action in /review, received the perfect response.

Yi Jiang

1:27 PM

@Nyuszika7H That's the same for all sites more than 90 days in public beta

Nyuszika7H

@YiJiang I know :)

The Renamed Exception

@badp HA!

That's hysterical

Reminds me of a funny meme video I saw that is... somewhat inappropriate to post here :-)

badp

Aw, I was ready to wave my flags and all in celebration

The Renamed Exception

OK lemme see if I can find a youtube link

Nyuszika7H

Hmm, I'm not sure if I really need NotScripts… or not

Yi Jiang

1:39 PM

QQ sucks >_< makes me wonder why most of China is on it

The Renamed Exception

@badp OK well I cannot find a youtube link, just some lame myspace video link :-p

do not click this

Nyuszika7H

@TheRenamedException why?

The Renamed Exception

trust me. :-p

@Nyuszika7H see:

Nyuszika7H

@TheRenamedException NO

The Renamed Exception

15 mins ago, by badp

I think my meta question, Hot brown on brown action in /review, received the perfect response.

ok @badp flag away! ;-)

badp

1:44 PM

yeeey

Yi Jiang

Oh look, The Meaning of Liff is online: folk.uio.no/alied/TMoL.html

badp

ALLTAMI (n.)
The ancient art of being able to balance the hot and cold shower taps.

The Renamed Exception

@Nyuszika7H was it you who mentioned the chat status?

like available / away / etc?

Nyuszika7H

@TheRenamedException yep

The Renamed Exception

ok cool I'm going to work on that now

Nyuszika7H

1:55 PM

Like this: /status Available or /status AFK

The Renamed Exception

Yup

Yi Jiang

@Nyuszika7H Well you mentioned in the issue you wanted a way to display the info which users stick in that 100 char blurb

Could be interesting, I never really cared much about that blurb.

Nyuszika7H

@YiJiang Yeah, change it and also display it in italics or somehow. Example:

/status Available

Status: Available

Yi Jiang

Changing it would be a lot harder than just displaying it

Nyuszika7H

Hmm.

Yi Jiang

1:58 PM

The status is changed by sending an ajax request to http://chat.{site}.com/users/usermessage/{user_id}

The Renamed Exception

@YiJiang I am working on the display portion

Yi Jiang

A POST containing the fkey and the new status

The Renamed Exception

@YiJiang That's for the "About Me" section?

Josh's Socks

I HAVE ARRIVED

Yi Jiang

@MarcGravell The limit on that blurb is 150 on MSO and 200 on SO, what's with the difference?

The Renamed Exception

1:59 PM

@JoshsSocks Quiet, you have work to do

Yi Jiang

@TheRenamedException It is indeed

The Renamed Exception

@YiJiang cool thanks

Yi Jiang

Hmmm, maybe I'm mistaken, changing it might be easier than getting it, let me see about how to get it

Josh's Socks

@YiJiang working on that now

Yi Jiang

Should be available with an ajax request too, though it might be easier to just pop open the popup by triggering the click event on the gravatar

Josh's Socks

2:01 PM

http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/users/thumbs/131541?_=1298124091511&showUsage=true&host=

contains JSON data user_message

Marc said to use showUsage=false though

when we were using this for XMPP

Nyuszika7H

http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/users/thumbs/{user_id}?showUsage=false is enough

Josh's Socks

@Nyuszika7H showUsage=false

Nyuszika7H

@JoshsSocks yeah sorry

The Renamed Exception

brb

The Renamed Exception

3:21 PM

It got real quiet in here when I left, lol

Yi Jiang

Did it huh? Well, LET'S MAKE SOME NOISE!!!

waves hand around madly

The Renamed Exception

LOL

balpha

any mac users here who have ever seen this?

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Q: Intermittent editing issue in Safari on Mac OS X?

I'm using Safari 5.0.3 on Mac OS X v. 10.6.6. When I try to edit a chat post in English.SE to fix a typo, selecting text and hitting the backspace key (for delete) often for some strange reason will send me to the main page of the Stack Overflow site. I find this rather bizarre behavior prevents ...

bug chat osx

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@balpha checking

badp

@balpha could it be they hit backspace without actually clicking in the box and thus trigger the Back shortcut?

The Renamed Exception

3:25 PM

have not seen that, let me switch to Safari

Yi Jiang

@badp He notes that SO's homepage isn't in the history queue

The Renamed Exception

@badp that's what I was thinking

badp

@YiJiang I see

The Renamed Exception

no, works for me

balpha

okay, thanks for testing @TheRenamedException

The Renamed Exception

3:27 PM

@badp without clicking in the box, hitting backspace focuses the box for me

0150

nope, that's also

status-norepro

@balpha sure, no problem

Josh's Socks

@balpha would it be a problem if I polled http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/users/thumbs/{user_id}?showUsage=false every 5 seconds?

balpha

it's especially weird since a english.SE chat room shouldn't even contain a link to SO.com

The Renamed Exception

@balpha yeah that doesn't make sense

balpha

@JoshsSocks that's indeed a higher frequency than that's made for -- you shouldn't currently run into issues with that (unless HAProxy intervenes), but I won't promise anything. What information exactly are you querying for?

Yi Jiang

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 mins ago, by Raynos

So the other day I was parsing HTML with a regex, And all of a sudden I got murdered by raptors!

Josh's Socks

3:33 PM

@balpha looking for user_message for every user in the chat room

want to poll for updates so when it changes I can indicate visually, so if you change your user message, I can update the title of your gravatar in #present-users

balpha

with a 5 second precision???

Josh's Socks

well I could go slower, maybe 30sec

but I was thinking since it can only get one user at a time (right?) if there's a large number of users in the room, if I do every 30 seconds that might take a while to update a given user

balpha

I'm pretty sure your puppet master is the only one who changes their user message that often...

The Renamed Exception

LOL. This is true... for now

Yi Jiang

@balpha With the new /status command, everybody now can!

The Renamed Exception

3:36 PM

@JoshsSocks If they're idle, they probably don't need to be updated as frequently...

Yi Jiang

Well not really with 5 second precision, but every min maybe?

The poll will have to be staggered, of course

The Renamed Exception

@YiJiang that means if there's 10 users in the room, updating the last user's status will take 10 minutes

I could go AFK and come back in that time, and nobody would know

Yi Jiang

I mean polling for everybody's status every 1 min

Josh's Socks

@YiJiang can that be done in one request?

Yi Jiang

Of course there's going to be a cut off number when there's too many people in the room

The Renamed Exception

3:38 PM

@JoshsSocks we could do multiple requests spaced out in 5 sec intervals

Yi Jiang

@JoshsSocks Not that I know of

We need to do this only for people who are actually talking

I think

The Renamed Exception

I think at least we need to do it much more frequently for people who are actually talking

so maybe once every 10 minutes for people who are idle

Yi Jiang

Not necessarily, but.. hrm...

We don't need to do it for people who are not talking, since if I want to know their status I can look at it myself manually

Or maybe we could simply hijack the about me section

Josh's Socks

@TheRenamedException that has problems too. If your status is "Available: working, @The me to interrupt me" and you're therefore idle, if you then to AFK and change your status to "Away: At lunch" then someone might @ you thinking you're there when you're not

Yi Jiang

Then display a small colored block indicating status on the gravatar based on that

The Renamed Exception

3:41 PM

@YiJiang isn't this what we're doing? :-)

Josh's Socks

@YiJiang that's exactly what I'm planning on doing

That plus a tooltip

Yi Jiang

@JoshsSocks Indeed, but leave some room for an actual message, like what you have there

The Renamed Exception

@JoshsSocks when I change my status, I can send a message to the chat, thus making me active

Yi Jiang

So that means the polling interval should not be decreased for non-talkers, though... hmmm...

The Renamed Exception

That way we do only need to poll for active users

Josh's Socks

3:42 PM

@TheRenamedException what about for other rooms? What if you're active in here but inactive in the Town hall room?

The Renamed Exception

@JoshsSocks Good point, this does need some thought

Here's a radical idea:

What about a status "control" room

The script would automatically cause you to join it, and would parse / post messages to that room for status updates

Josh's Socks

That would make the right bar messy

Yi Jiang

@JoshsSocks Incredibly, and our benevolent dictators, ahem developers may not like that

(Me participating in this conversation makes me look like a sock puppet of @TheRenamedException)

The Renamed Exception

HAHAHA

@YiJiang they may prefer that over us abusing the /user/thumb route

Josh's Socks

@YiJiang LIES! @TheRenamedException is my sockpuppet!

The Renamed Exception

3:50 PM

@JoshsSocks let's not start this again...

Josh's Socks

Hm, my jQuery AJAX knowledge is lacking

Pekka

He makes sense, though. It's easy to interpret "sock puppet" as "sock's puppet"

3

Yi Jiang

@JoshsSocks Indeed, it's Ajax, not AJAX :P

Pekka

@JoshsSocks I'm impressed you do even jQuery, what with you being a sock and all

What is your question?

We're always glad to help our fellow users' socks out :)

Josh's Socks

@Pekka Why is this failing?

$.ajax('/chats/38/messages/new',{
type:'POST',
data: {
  'fkey':fkey().fkey,
  'text':'Testing 2'
}});

It doesn't POST

Yi Jiang

3:56 PM

@JoshsSocks cache: true?

The Renamed Exception

@Pekka he's written in Prototype.js, so...

balpha

Iirc, type is the return type

Pekka

No, thats aray

okay*

Josh's Socks

@YiJiang still causes a GET request.

Yi Jiang

@balpha No, that's okay. Data type is datatype

Josh's Socks

3:57 PM

Looks like the URL is empty, looks like it's GETting http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/89/the-tavern-general

Dan Grossman

Wooo, first time live support chat with a customer led to something productive. Interactively fixed a bug I couldn't reproduce myself.

Pekka

The only thing I can see that could fail is the fkey().fkey call

Yi Jiang

@JoshsSocks The URL should be in the Object as the url key; $.ajax only takes a single settings Object as parameter

Josh's Socks

@YiJiang api.jquery.com/jQuery.ajax ?

Pekka

@YiJiang I thought that too but it does accept two parameters

Josh's Socks

3:58 PM

@YiJiang indeed this works though

Yi Jiang

@JoshsSocks We're not using 1.5 here are we?

Pekka

.ajax(url, settings)

The Renamed Exception

hates documentation which is invalid / outdated / misleading

Yi Jiang

Chat's using 1.4.2

So that won't work

Pekka

Aaah, the two parameter notation is new

Odd

Josh's Socks

3:59 PM

@YiJiang shrugs not sure, didn't check. I am just a sock you know.

balpha

@YiJiang ah yes, you're right

18 hours ago, by balpha

I am never wrong. If I give a wrong answer sometimes and later correct myself, that's just a caching issue.

Tweeted by balpha on February 18, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Pekka

I thought I used to use it all the time

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