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bjb568

2:32 AM

I just took a great nap.

@hichris123 ^ happily napping

user202362

3:13 AM

like ~~hairy tail~~ fairy tale endings, living happily ~~ever after~~ (in our own separate places)

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3:31 AM

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4:31 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: One of the most common problems by markrjones on askubuntu.com (@kos)

Magisch

@AaronHall Ironically you would link that, I'm in an apprenticeship right now :p

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4:46 AM

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6:14 AM

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7:02 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: The sperm era gets extended with mystique by Whapt1971 on workplace.stackexchange.com

rene

7:31 AM

bloody .... spam ...

@hichris123 are you interested in a transcript clean-up script?

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened URL in answer: Как изменить размер UIView, на которой находится UILabel by Andrii Moisol on ru.stackoverflow.com

rene

sd k

Userscript is broken so I provide feedback here

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7:58 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body: Which is the best Family Vacation Tours and Travel Best Package in India? by Supriya Srivastav on hinduism.stackexchange.com

rene

Anyone here with a pink bunny suit?

DEAD

No, why

Bart

@rene hiya

rene

@Bart \0 :D

I have an answer cooking there but I rather move on ...

DEAD

@Bart Like this?

Bart

8:11 AM

@rene I started one ... deleted it ... it wasn't pretty

@DEAD oh god, now I want those

DEAD

No flirting in this chat.

rene

@Bart I kept mine mostly clear of opinions

sorry for the pings ....

Bart

Myeah, point is that, when answering the questions asked ... you're not really answering the question they're actually asking in the light of the context

rene

Yeah, that is true

It will be a lost case and only end in another meta post about the meta post

Bart

"Should people be punching others in the face?" "No, of course they shouldn't. It's ridiculous to even ... he has done what? ... Go ahead and punch"

DEAD

8:14 AM

I wrote one on meta.Chem.

It wasn't pretty at all.

rene

I found a solution for my rudeness: I was straight forward.

Bart

I'd opt for "I'm dutch"

rene

I can add that to give it even more power, yes

DEAD

@Bart That works

Sadly, I'm not even Dutch

rene

By dutch standards I'm often considered rude.

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8:19 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body, pattern-matching website in body: How to select best website to write an essay? by Ladia madden on webmasters.stackexchange.com

Bart

@rene oh boy ...

DEAD

@rene Spicy

rene

Still amazed that didn't backfire on me here. Apart from some chat incidents and removed comments I think I'm fine ;)

Turns out my user profile is completely annotated by several moderators and staff

Bart

One flag away from total annihilation

rene

something like that, yeah ;)

Bart

8:24 AM

Working abroad as a Dutch guy is interesting though. Our sense of humour doesn't always translate. :D

DEAD

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A: Can we please be friendlier at least in the beginning?

On The Philosophy of Moderation The philosophy of all Stack Exchange sites (which they took from their precedent, Stack Overflow) was to help people by building a library of detailed and quality answers to all real questions. The idea was to reduce the clutter to a minimum by a set of rules and ...

A long-winded, harsh answer back then.

Couldn't stop myself.

Bart

Ooh, it's ludum dare weekend? How did I miss that?

DEAD

@Bart Your websockets stopped working? How am I supposed to know?

Bart

No, my websockets are just affecting my CSS

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8:59 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, blacklisted website in answer, link at end of answer: recently my phone was in contact with water for some time now after 2 days its screen looks like below do i need replace screen? by Maria Make on android.stackexchange.com (@qwer)

rene

Jon Skeet explains nicely to user: You're doing it all wrong

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9:35 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in username, bad keyword with a link in answer: How did this day trader lose so much? by SAP Netweaver Online Training on money.stackexchange.com

Bart

That is a great comment

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rene

9:52 AM

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector f

ardaozkal

10:50 AM

Hey, did the chat's search engine change?

I used to be able to find pictures by searching png or jpg but I can't do so now.

user202362

you could not possibly be searching for one of many cat pictures I have posted here, could you?

qwer

I found some images by searching png only. Random images.

user202362

11:14 AM

search for user names, you probably drag out more >_<

user202362

searched for bjbcat, found this:

user202362

auto-corrected to bobcat

Magisch

@Telkitty I posted a sand kitten yesterday

user202362

I saw that

user202362

11:19 AM

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Magisch

12:00 PM

hichris123

2:50 PM

@rene Nah, I've just been doing it on my own. I haven't been really cleaning up the transcript, just whatever is shown when someone enters the room.

rene

Does someone recall if this ever worked: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/283932/…

hichris123

→ 11 messages moved to Sandbox

@rene I thought with stage 2 it always logged you in no matter the domain (except perhaps Area 51 or with Safari).

rene

Hmm, OK, then there is regression

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3:08 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened URL in answer: Are there benefits to using a lemon squeezer? by Doug Young on cooking.stackexchange.com

bjb568

The answer acceptance mechanism may be bad on SO, but it's really bad on workplace. Every time I go there I see an accepted answer with a few votes then a better answer underneath with a couple hundred votes. HNQs shouldn't just be showing off the worst parts of the SE system…

rene

sd f

Magisch

@bjb568 the HNQ is a problem on TWP anyways

the worst questions get hundreds of votes and some seriously mediocre answers too

rene

@bjb568 let's just rename it to RNQs and stop that non-sense discussion...

Magisch

@rene network questions

bjb568

3:15 PM

@Magisch So at least the best answers should be shown first.

Magisch

I say that because I've given some of those very mediocre answers

I'm actually semi-active on TWP

bjb568

BTW, is there any reason the chat textarea explicitly disables predictive typing? O_o

And escape clears it with no undo.

@Shog your chat sucks

Magisch

dont insult shog...

:(

rene

I guess chat.DevDoodle.com doesn't have those issues?

hichris123

DevDoodle is wonderful and has no issues...

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Magisch

3:18 PM

Now @ed is here. Hi ed

:D

bjb568

@rene root domain and /chat/, but yeah

DEAD

3:55 PM

@Magisch Two chars don't ping

I perhaps know you know, but I wouldn't know

DEAD

4:15 PM

@hichris123 Please pin. Pleasepleasepleaseplease

Unicode

4:27 PM

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A: How to control computers using rednet? 1.7.10

Using 3 basic rednet functions - open(side), broadcast(message, protocol) and receive(protocol, timeout), it is possible to implement this. Control Computer code: print('Main Computer') print(' Enter any command to broadcast to slaves') rednet.open('top') -- Open modem on top while true do ...

Will people complain I'm trolling or not?

hichris123

Well, are you trolling?

rene

@Unicode yes

starts reading question

Bart

flags for trolling

rene

@Unicode if you get a comment and then dare to redirect them to Stack Overflow you are trolling ...

I would have posted it on Friday ....

DEAD

4:46 PM

@Shog I just linked to a comic you linked me to earlier in a recent meta.chem post.

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Q: Shall we experiment?

Overview There has been some concerns lately about whether we close too much. So we start giving leniency a chance. Scroll down to What we do to get to the fun part. Read the rest if you're interested. Why we do It's all about answers. Whatever we do here, whether it is commenting, asking, an...

user202362

4:59 PM

shog is not going to come back on this chat for a little while - he's very jealous that some moderators receive more 'fan' messages than him

user202362

talking about crime of passion

user202362

the kind that you would commit right after you found out that you have been banned

DEAD

@Telkitty Thank you for the status update, Shog's secretary.

user202362

People usually blame the police for overuse of force. Now I think about it, whoever allowed the police to overuse of force in the first place should be thrown in a cage full of dirty raccoons

user202362

5:15 PM

Patting and spanking a cat have very similar motions - lifting your hand up and land it on the animal's body. Almost as ambiguous as this sites attitude towards elite trolls ...

rene

Can someone explain better what is wrong here?

Or explain to me what I don't understand?

DEAD

@rene I think I understood even less.

rene

Great ...

qwer

5:46 PM

Looks like the answerer doesn't understand how SE usually works

With about me: "I'm currently checking out this website. It looks great."

rene

Yeah, I saw that. I'm trying politely to explain that they are yet clueless ...

Unicode

Haz upvotez

rene

I'm in a good mood: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/283907/…

casted also a delete vote ...

Magisch

6:09 PM

@rene Philanthropic flower?

Jason C

♫ DEADLINE GOT PUSHED 1 MONTH BACK ♫ DOO DAH, DOO DAH ♫

Woo hoo, it feels good to have my will to live back.

Sigh, I gotta start answering SO questions again, my brain is starting to rot. Although it's questionable whether or not that will speed up or slow down the rot.

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bjb568

@JasonC You could contribute to DevDoodle.

Jason C

@bjb568 I contributed by pinning hichris's totally-not-facetious-at-all post about it, does that count?

bjb568

Eh, sure.

Jason C

6:24 PM

Sweet! What's my cut?

bjb568

null

DEAD

That's even more than you get BJB.

Don't be too generous.

bjb568

:o

Jason C

@bjb568 Since that's how you're gonna be I've removed the pin. Jerk.

Who's laughing now?

I am. (Evidence: HA HA HA)

DEAD

@JasonC It will either slow up or speed down.

Jason C

6:33 PM

Ok, being guaranteed that it won't just stay the same is better than nothing I guess.

Thanks.

You should post that as an answer.

@JasonC :o

@bjb568 :o

@DEAD :o

@JasonC :o

@bjb568 :o

6:35 PM

@DEAD :O

@JasonC :O

@bjb568 :O

@DEAD 8O

@JasonC 0:

:(

6:36 PM

@bjb568 8O

Jason C

@DEAD 8X

Guys this is getting really dark.

@JasonC 8X)

@JasonC =o

what the heck

this is highly inappropiate @JasonC

Jason C

6:38 PM

Lol, yeah, probably. Is that better?

hichris123

6:50 PM

Perhaps from a perspective of protecting the brand it is also not really a great idea to keep these kind of audits in. I mean it only takes one smart kid seeing such a thing in review and one angry parent taking it to the media to smear the name of the site we love. Even if the chance is very small, it just isn't worth it. — Gimby yesterday

... the chance that some kid is going to be reviewing and some parent is going to "talk to the media" is... way way way low.

rene

are we flagging stuff?

DEAD

@hichris123 I should be notifying Undo's parents what stuff he deals with when he's online.

Say goodbye to Undo

@rene are we flagging stuff?

bjb568

Whoa, I can see a flag on Jason's post without 10k in the message history.

DEAD

@bjb568 I can too.

Bug report? Where's Nicael?

bjb568

Not pingable.

DEAD

7:01 PM

Mhm

tchrist

Is Shadow or Random or any of the other MSE dupemasters of renown anywhere to be seen hereabouts of late?

man
I
gotsta
make
that
scroll
damn
its
eyes
and
my
adhd

DEAD

@tchrist Shadow is here when you don't want him to.

tchrist

@ShadowWizard Are you about?

I'm looking for whether these any existing MSE question similar to this one:

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Q: Just another edit suggestion, nothing big

Instead of seeing, (username) has approved 297 edit suggestions and rejected 121 edit suggestions and improved 21 edit suggestions can it be rephrased to this? (username) has approved 297, rejected 121, and improved 21 edit suggestions or something better? What are your thoughts? Is ...

discussion feature-request

I haven't seen one.

rene

@tchrist he is on holiday

NVZ

Ok, I'm here.

@DEAD You're everywhere! :)

tchrist

7:13 PM

I don't see any dupes.

DEAD

@NVZ I feed on chat messages.

tchrist

I'm just in general mildly leery of migrating from a site meta to MSE. Some of that is for a reason that most people may not think of, and that is because MSE can be very hard on questions.

NVZ

My God! This room is the fullest I've seen so far.

tchrist

There aren't many people here. What do you mean?

rene

@tchrist me neither but I often ignore rewording questions because I really don't care.

DEAD

7:15 PM

@NVZ IOW, it has the most overzealous and determined stalkers.

NVZ

@tchrist to you, maybe not. But to me, I've never seen so many user icons together on the right side to this room.

rene

@tchrist this one? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/276946/…

DEAD

@rene Nope

tchrist

@NVZ Are you just trying to make the Tavern space-squeak repeat for personal delight? :)

DEAD

NVZ takes it a step further.

rene

7:17 PM

I see, related then

NVZ

@DEAD Is that you in the screenshot?

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A: Unnecessary "and"s in reviewer stats

I love @lolreppeatlol's idea, so I implemented it with a userscript! :) Install it from GitHub Gist :) You will probably need a userscript manager such as Greasemonkey or Tampermonkey. Update: I have now added this feature into v1.0.3 (currently in dev) of SOX: Stack Overflow Extras, a usersc...

DEAD

@NVZ Yup.

NVZ

@rene wow, so that is real close to my idea. But my proposed wording is a bit different, don't you think? :)

tchrist

@NVZ I can move it, but you should edit it once it gets there to mention the related questions lest it be quickly closed for a dupe.

DEAD

It won't be.

The proposed wording is different.

tchrist

7:21 PM

That never stopped anybody.

DEAD

Nevertheless, I don't think it will be such a popular FR.

NVZ

@DEAD you read my mind quite well. :)

@tchrist Okay, I'll do it.

DEAD

@tchrist And didn't stop anyone from reopening it either.

NVZ

@DEAD See? You're everywhere!

DEAD

Wrong. I'm not in the bathroom right now.

NVZ

7:23 PM

@DEAD TMI.. :P

Oh Smokey is here. :)

DEAD

He's the only guy here early in the morning.

tchrist

@NVZ Ite, missa est.

NVZ

@tchrist I'll google that phrase. Btw, thanks for your edits, and for migrating it. Thank you. :)

tchrist

"Scram, it's all done."

NVZ

Aha

@tchrist "wordy and superfluous and redundant", I laughed so hard! :D

One thing that will bother me now is that I'm unable to see the number of upvotes and downvotes on a post in MSE.

tchrist

7:40 PM

@NVZ 209 up and 1001 down.

hichris123

8:34 PM

Sometimes I wish room owners could deal with flags...

→ 4 messages moved to Sandbox

Shadow Wizard

@rene not anymore! Got back few hours ago. ;)

Good job @Jason, flag!

@tchrist yup, exact dupe. Hammered now. :)

tchrist

@ShadowWizard Thanks. I figured you'd know.

Shadow Wizard

I'm honored. :)

@DEAD haha, you know me... stalking @Dead

@NVZ nah, there were 100+ (200+ maybe? I wasn't here) in the Town Halls held here recently

NVZ

@tchrist so now its closed. :(

Shadow Wizard

@NVZ dupe isn't really closed. Well, different kind of closed.

It's on topic, just asked before.

NVZ

8:41 PM

@ShadowWizard We already discussed about that dupe here.

Shadow Wizard

@NVZ oh. And?

NVZ

I don't think it's an exact dupe, although a similar one it is.

Shadow Wizard

@NVZ nope. 100% dupe, to the wording you both suggest.

tchrist

That's why I wanted you to edit the question to reference the other questions that you thought people might think it a dupe of.

Shadow Wizard

If you have different wording in mind, it might fit as answer on the original request, @NVZ

NVZ

8:43 PM

@ShadowWizard I see. :)

Shadow Wizard

That's how MSE works (any meta I think), nothing bad here.

tchrist

@NVZ y/)/(/

NVZ

But too exhausted now. Maybe later. :)

Shadow Wizard

No rush.

NVZ

I actually welcome others to add an answer on the dupe, based on my suggestion. :)

@ShadowWizard Is it okay if I just copy paste my dupe into an answer box on the old post?

Shadow Wizard

8:48 PM

@NVZ isn't your current suggestion exactly the same as the other one? I didn't read word by word yet, but on first and second look they appear the same.

If so, no point in answer that just repeats the request.

(only when there is similar, yet somewhat different, idea)

NVZ

@ShadowWizard mine is actually migrated from ELU meta. Also, my suggestion is the shortest.

(username) has approved 297, rejected 121, and improved 21 edit suggestions

Shadow Wizard

@bjb568 I think everyone can see the blue marker near the message itself, just not the global marker letting them do anything with the flag. Not sure though...

NVZ

Alright I'll post a descent-ish answer now itself.

Because, do tmrw's today, and today's now.

Shadow Wizard

@NVZ oh, you removed some "edit suggestions". OK, give it a try.

NVZ

@ShadowWizard How about now?

0

A: Unnecessary "and"s in reviewer stats

From my meta ELU post, later migrated to MSE, and now closed as dupe of this question: Instead of seeing: (username) has approved 297 edit suggestions and rejected 121 edit suggestions and improved 21 edit suggestions Can that be rephrased to this? (username) has approved 297, rejected...

Shadow Wizard

8:58 PM

@NVZ nice, now we just need to wait for a response from the team... :)

NVZ

@ShadowWizard Yes, surely they'll reply ;)

Wait.. I thought I'd see review queueues with 500 rep. I'm missing something here.

Shadow Wizard

@NVZ lol!

NVZ

No Late Answers and First Posts on MSE?

I just compared to ELU's.

tchrist

@NVZ 2,000

Shadow Wizard

@NVZ only in beta sites. MSE isn't beta site. :)

tchrist

9:04 PM

@ShadowWizard Not true.

NVZ

ELU isn't beta either.

Shadow Wizard

and you can edit anywhere with 500? Weird...

NVZ

@ShadowWizard No.. I meant review Qs, namely First Posts and Late Answers are unlocked at 500, I think.

Shadow Wizard

@NVZ yup, I saw now. And 2k to review suggested edits. Not sure what you find weird then?

oh, you mean no First Posts and Late Answers review queues on MSE, @NVZ?

That's because MSE is a meta site.

NVZ

@ShadowWizard Oh, a meta site that doesn't actually follow the "no rep on meta" rule. :)

Shadow Wizard

9:08 PM

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Q: Review queues on Meta?

On the StackOverflow help center article about review queues, here, it says on the bottom: Note: These two queues do not exist on Meta sites. But there are Late Answer and First Posts review queues on Meta StackOverflow, as far as the priviledges page says. So shouldn't that last se...

bug status-bydesign review help-center

@NVZ yup. MSE is special.

It combines features of meta and main sites.

tchrist

Amongst other things.

Shadow Wizard

True. Even after years of being active in MSE it's impossible for me to fully explain the difference...

Just saying "special" is usually enough. :)

tchrist

shortbus.se

NVZ

Alright guys, thanks for your time. It's 3 am here. Tata

tchrist

@NVZ Happy tatas to you too.

Shadow Wizard

9:16 PM

@NVZ late sleeper! Night. :)

tchrist

0

Q: Question about proper usage of the word "castrate"

I'm looking for the word you would use to describe the act of removing the genitals of a man. From my research, I have come up with "castrate" "geld" "neuter" "emasculate" and "desex", but these all seem to describe the removal of the testicles only. There is the word "penectomy" but that is ...

usage

Shadow Wizard

@tchrist I really wondered when you'll be back to your cryptic self. :)

wait...

> Shortbus is a 2006 American erotic comedy-drama film written and directed by John Cameron Mitchell

How's that related?

tchrist

@ShadowWizard “. . . those apparatuses — the baffling mirror, the black velvet backdrop, the implied associations and traditions — which the native illusionist, frac-tails flying, can magically use to transcend the heritage in his own way.”

Special students get to ride the short bus.

Shadow Wizard

@tchrist heh, isn't it just "mutilate"?

@tchrist you and random can write a book together. ;-)

Everyone will buy so they can try and understand the hidden meanings and wisdom.

tchrist

@ShadowWizard “GUIDO MAFFEO was castrated when he was six years old and sent to study with the finest singing masters in Naples.”

Shadow Wizard

9:21 PM

Too bad random hides his diamonds deep behind edit summaries.

tchrist

@ShadowWizard It would hardly be the first.