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12:00 AM

the suspense!

> A receptacle for delivering food in a hot condition in the form of a bag formed of insulating material having a closure defined at an end. Within the bag an insert of a high density material capable of retaining heat is located and is heated by an electric resistance heater. Prior to use, the insert mass is heated to the desired temperature and food, such as pizza, placed within the bag will stay warm due to the heat retention of the mass.

Jeopardy time, again!

> The invention pertains to apparatus for evenly distributing food particles over a base food, and in particular is directed to apparatus for evenly distributing a predetermined quantity of cheese particles upon a pizza. The apparatus includes a conical screen supported above the pizza upon which cheese is to be distributed and comminuted cheese particles located within a hopper above the screen are dropped in a mass upon the screen...

Dan Grossman

12:13 AM

I wish Watson was on every day. I'm much more entertained watching people compete vs. AI than vs. other people

drachenstern

12:36 AM

> I have no specific goal in mind, I just thought it'd be nice to be able to read an already parsed syntax tree. It might be handy at some time in the future for something I don't no yet.

Am I the only one that reads "NaRQ" on that comment?

Dan Grossman

Downvotes

drachenstern

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Q: Using sys.diana and sys.pidl to parse PL/SQL

It seems to me that it should be possible to parse existing PL/SQL with the packages sys.diana and sys.pidl, but I have found nothing on the internet with the exception of a few scripts that seem to unwrap a wrapped package (and that is useless for my purposes). So, does anyone know about a poi...

do you mean downvotes that?

Ooooh, did I mention I got tumbleweed on a site :D

I'm actually not entirely sure that's a good thing

The Renamed Exception

1:06 AM

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Q: 2011 Moderator Election - Town Hall Chat Digest

The following is a "digest" version of the 2011 Moderator Election Town Hall Chat. The format, as described on Meta Stack Overflow, is one answer to this question for every question asked in the Town Hall, containing all the candidate's answers to that question. To view the digest chronologicall...

discussion election

For anyone who cares

drachenstern

Nice, I like it

The Renamed Exception

Thanks.

I left off the "THANK YOU @RebeccaChernoff!!!!", I think I was embarrassing her =b

@drachenstern ??

@drachenstern oops

:517377 LOL, I didn't know they were locked

Also, bug

drachenstern

chop chop with the delete

The Renamed Exception

Also, bug

@drachenstern actually I meant I left off:

in Seasoned Advice Town Hall Chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by Josh

At the risk of sounding like a broken record I'd like to thank the candidates and extend a big THANK YOU to @RebeccaChernoff for her hard work on these Town halls and dedication to the community!!

in Seasoned Advice Town Hall Chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by Rebecca Chernoff

@Josh you don't have to keep saying that ya know (;

in Seasoned Advice Town Hall Chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by Josh

I say it often only because it's true!

So I vote the other one stands

drachenstern

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Q: Sargable queries using ISNULL in TSQL

I'm looking to prevent non-sargable expressions in my queries, which is the better way to check for a null condition? AND c.Account IS NOT NULL AND c.Account <> '' or AND ISNULL(c.Account,'') <> ''

sql-server tsql query isnull sarg

The Renamed Exception

1:17 AM

Now I am off to P.F. Chang's. @RebeccaChernoff, commence making fun of me for my love of their food... now!

drachenstern

don't ya think I woulda thought of the obvious?

Rebecca Chernoff

@TheRenamedException Ah, I see my timing is perfect then? (:

commences!

thanks for doing the THCD again.

The Renamed Exception

@RebeccaChernoff HAHAHAHA

@RebeccaChernoff sure thing, this one was a piece of cake! </bad-pun>

Rebecca Chernoff

groan.

The Renamed Exception

Let me know what and when the next town hall will be

Tim Stone

1:29 AM

Food! \o/

drachenstern

@TimStone Yatta!

Tim Stone

I need to go find some. :(

drachenstern

Oh :\

Tim Stone

Corn dogs!

drachenstern

Anybody know where to dredge up @MitchWheat easily enough?

Tim Stone

1:34 AM

Things that involve me not attending to them are always best.

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drachenstern

@TimStone Standby!

@TimStone indeed. I like to pair them with Tater Tots

Tim Stone

@Pekka I joined the Cool Kids Club the other day, hooray!

Pekka

@Tim heh, nice!

We are a cool bunch

We do all sorts of things for fun in that tag

Tim Stone

@drachenstern I was hoping that I had some chili to go with them, but alas no.

Naturally.

drachenstern

@TimStone whaaa? No Hormel in the cabinets?

:(

Tim Stone

1:36 AM

@drachenstern Nope. A sign I need to make a trip to the store. :(

Rebecca Chernoff

Gah!! If you're going to have chili make it from scratch!

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drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff you're talking to two computer programming men with less desire and more demand

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Well, yes, if I'm having chili.

drachenstern

We can't all be talented like you!

Tim Stone

But it's not like I made the corn dogs from scratch, so. >_>

Rebecca Chernoff

1:37 AM

That doesn't excuse having chili from a can.

drachenstern

(I hear the secret to really being awesome is to be born with ovaries)

@RebeccaChernoff sure it does

damnit, I hate when high rep users just delete stuff and no reasons :(

Rebecca Chernoff

@drachenstern from a can? Yeah, there's really no excuse. (:

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff :p

Tim Stone

I see no downside to Hormel chili with corn dogs.

Dan Grossman

amazon.com/…

But if you want to make your own chili...

amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-33141-4-Quart-Cooker/dp/…

$10.99 & eligible for free shipping with Amazon Prime

Rebecca Chernoff

1:43 AM

food.com/recipe/kellys-chili-50732

Go. Make. Rejoice.

Tim Stone

Your assumption of what I have laying around when I don't have pre-made things laying around is interesting. :p

That being said, I'll make a note.

Rebecca Chernoff

haha

Dan Grossman

The only things out of that recipe I have are salt, pepper and garlic powder.

Rebecca Chernoff

Well if you're going to the store already...

@DanGrossman how is that ALL you have?

Pekka

@RebeccaChernoff nice, bookmarking now.

Dan Grossman

1:45 AM

@RebeccaChernoff I ran out of ketchup yesterday.

Pekka

What is V8?

Rebecca Chernoff

P.S. If you remember from before, that's the recipe I've used for years in chili cookoffs. And won more than a couple times. (:

Dan Grossman

amazon.com/V8-Vegetable-Juice-5-5-Ounce-6-Count/dp/B0014EOU5W/…

Pekka

@DanGrossman thanks.

Rebecca Chernoff

Hint, use half the ketchup it says, and for the other half, use bbq sauce...like a hickory smoked bbq sauce.

Also, put 2 1-oz squares of sem-sweet baking chocolate in.

ZOMG SECRET INGREDIENT

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Dan Grossman

1:47 AM

Elk hamburger and kidneys?

Pekka

@Rebecca sounds interesting, will try

Rebecca Chernoff

I don't even use chili meat, I just cheat and use ground round.

Tim Stone

I found barbeque sauce in the cabinet the other day that had an expiration date of April 2008. I have no idea where the hell it came from.

Dan Grossman

I didn't know there was something called chili meat

Rebecca Chernoff

...

Y'all make me sad.

Not knowing there is a thing called chili meat. Just...the rest of it. (;

status-completed

1:50 AM

sockpuppet #3

user620571

16 2

algorithm nlp semantic-analysis

That's insane that the 2nd time he creates a sockpuppet to upvote his answer

Dan Grossman

That's insane that he keeps using the same avatar =p

status-completed

he keeps spawning horrible question

Tim Stone

@DanGrossman That's what I was thinking, hahah.

status-completed

so easy to track anyway

Tim Stone

"NO ONE WILL EVER NOTICE."

goes to turn corn dogs

Pekka

1:52 AM

@statuscompleted I think this is a genuine case of stupidity

Although.....

The check mark on that answer says otherwise

Dan Grossman

amazon.com/Smuckers-Goober-Peanut-Butter-Stripes/dp/B002RSFL7U/…

I have some of this. What recipes can I make with it?

Pekka

But I agree, the guy is seeding terrible questions

Not only the downvoted ones

@DanGrossman Peanut butter and Jelly?

Hard to imagine what that tastes like

Dan Grossman

I have no fresh bread

George Marian

@RebeccaChernoff Chili meat? WTF? Isn't that just ground beef? Or maybe some pork?

Tim Stone

@GeorgeMarian I think she's just making it up to make fun of us.

George Marian

1:57 AM

Alright, I'll buy that. All I could image is Taco Bell's "Meat" filling...

Now, with 36% beef!

Dan Grossman

Accepted, locked, deleted... is Community a real person or is that the bot? Why is the bot deleting accepted answers?

Tim Stone

It was spam-flagged (to deletion).

Dan Grossman

Oh.

OH.

Now I see what was originally there.

status-completed

Finally 2 days suspension :

Rebecca Chernoff

Some say making chili with ground round is cheating...it's the el cheapo version. But meh, if I can make mine taste as good as yours with fancy schmancy meat...!

status-completed

2:00 AM

Speedy Wap

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George Marian

@RebeccaChernoff Ah, as opposed to grinding a "better" cut of meat?

Or, I guess, chopping it.

Tim Stone

@GeorgeMarian You mean you don't hand mince the finest cuts of Kobe beef?

George Marian

lol

I massage the beef myself. ;)

Rebecca Chernoff

oy

Tim Stone

Hahah

Dan Grossman

2:02 AM

The recipe comments recommended elk burger and kidney. Elk!

Elk

The elk or wapiti (Cervus canadensis) is one of the largest species of deer in the world and one of the largest land mammals in North America and eastern Asia. In the deer family (Cervidae), only the larger moose (Alces alces), which is called an "elk" in Europe, and the sambar (Rusa unicolor) rival the elk in size. Elk are similar to the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus) found in Europe, of which they were long believed to be a subspecies. However, evidence from a 2004 study of the mitochondrial DNA indicates they are a distinct species. Elk range in forest and forest-edge habitat, feeding on ...

George Marian

Kidney?

anyways, brb...gotta reboot after this update

crosses fingers

Dan Grossman

Where do the deer go in the winter? They were all over the roads in the fall, haven't seen one since.

badp

@TimStone ...but that is the correct answer

I would've posted pretty much that, if I wanted to answer that question at face value.

Dan Grossman

@badp It didn't originally say that :x

badp

@DanGrossman ...heh. Details.

Dan Grossman

2:07 AM

George Marian

Yay...that only resulted in having to login twice, due to missing window decorations. Hooray for Ubuntu. ;)

Tim Stone

@badp Amazing how much jackassery a single edit can remove, heh. :P

badp

@DanGrossman did the autor hisself remove the jackassery?

I see the last edit was his own

Dan Grossman

Yeah, he/she did

badp

Ah well I guess that in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter.

Dan Grossman

2:15 AM

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Q: The Question is about .Net

i am developing an html pages which contains some report i have to transfer that reports to a pdf file i tried a lot but didnt find anything relevant plz help

Good evening.

'ello George

It's amazing how much of my time is spent coding hacks to test hacks.

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I'm responsible for the former, not the latter.

Tim Stone

2:31 AM

@GeorgeStocker I'm not sure how much of my time is spent doing that, but when it is spent I imagine I'm responsible for both sides..this leads to internal conflict. :P

Dan Grossman

►

Kev

I would like to brain the MS PM who decided that .NET Client Profile should be the default for console/windows apps in VS. grrr

Dan Grossman

I would pay to see 2 hours of the best video game trailers in a movie theater.

Ahahahahaha.

> Philly Homeowner Declares He's 'Foreclosed' on Wells Fargo consumerist.com/2011/02/…

> The bank blew him off, so the man got the sheriff to schedule a sale of contents of a Wells Fargo Home Mortgage location to pay for the judgment and $200 in court and sheriff's fees.

Tim Stone

2:52 AM

Hahahah

That's great

drachenstern

3:12 AM

@TimStone I routinely do this. It makes me sad.

eyes @Zypher

Please undelete.

I saw that. :P

wrong room

That just brings up more questions!

Zypher

3:13 AM

ROFL

Tim Stone

@drachenstern I feel like it was money wasted, yet since I don't remember actually getting it, I don't know that I actually bought it in the first place. >_>

Rebecca Chernoff

>_<

Zypher

ducks

Rebecca Chernoff

Due to a height difference, you ducking just helps me...

2

(:

Zypher

damnit

Tim Stone

3:15 AM

@RebeccaChernoff And to think, we (...Well, I) had forgotten all about that until he brought it up in a curiosity-piquing fashion.

Dan Grossman

o_O

Tim Stone

Hahah, WTF.

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimStone So had I...so had I. Unfortunately, someone had to bring it up. ):

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff I can't say bad things about him though because he went and got us a server for gaming. :o

Rebecca Chernoff

Think of the appliances @TimStone.

Tim Stone

3:18 AM

Speaking of which..

in SE Game On! on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 7 hours ago, by Tim Stone

@Zypher I have a feeling that Rebecca would be the perfect person to test the server once you get the login information. :P

Rebecca Chernoff

Though I was actually referring to the other someone

Tim Stone

Oh, I'm not sure who the other someone is.

partially obscures you all with pgAdmin for a moment

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimStone There aren't that many choices. (;

drachenstern

I really want to know what I missed now :\ re:515734

Zypher

we do need to test the vent server

Rebecca Chernoff

3:23 AM

vent?

Zypher

ventrillo

Tim Stone

@Zypher How do you go about that?

drachenstern

Update on my friend from the AM: She got the iPhone4 for herself, and a LG Ally for her hubs

Zypher

nice

Rebecca Chernoff

Ah, right. You didn't do TS.

drachenstern

3:24 AM

@TimStone You're seriously asking how to go about testing a server? :p

Zypher

@TimStone go here ventrilo.com/download.php and download client

see SE Game On! for server info

Rebecca Chernoff

They have a Windows 95 version? |:

Tim Stone

@drachenstern I'm not well-versed in game server mechanics. :P

drachenstern

@TimStone oh Ventrillo is for a GAME? ffs

Tim Stone

SOIS loves us that much :D

Dan Grossman

3:26 AM

Ventrilo is a voice chat client, that's all

drachenstern

Yeah, what's that US you're talking about?

wait, wtf? ffs? we're going to have an interactive group voice chat now?

I, for one, denounce our new interactive voice group chat overlords

Rebecca Chernoff

No, those silly gamers are going to.

Zypher

@drachenstern go here:

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/271/se-game-on

and read

:-P

drachenstern

Ahhhhhhh

that's much better

Dan Grossman

There's nobody there.

How is it running on .stackoverflow.com; is that just an alias to a ventrilo host or did SOIS actually get a ventrilo server license (uber expensive)?

Zypher

3:30 AM

no no they gave me an ip

i put it in my dns

Tim Stone

Hahah

Michael Mrozek

feature-request Audio/video support in MSO chat

drachenstern

@MichaelMrozek burnination is not strong enough. BURNINATION - will - not - work

Tim Stone

@Zypher sounds like someone I know, heh.

Zypher

ha

what was his name?

Rebecca Chernoff

3:37 AM

Is my audio even going through? I kinda get the feeling it isn''t...

lol

Tim Stone

@DanGrossman I was going to say that we're all familiar with that song, but then I remembered @RebeccaChernoff was present.

Dan Grossman

No, it isn't

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff You're saying things?

Did you remember to press the Ctrl key if you have PTT enabled? :P

Dan Grossman

Your icon has never illuminated

Rebecca Chernoff

Haha I said a couple things.

Tim Stone

3:38 AM

@Zypher It's not you, hahah.

Rebecca Chernoff

No, I turned that off.

Tim Stone

Ah

Dan Grossman

Maybe have your input device selected wrong

Rebecca Chernoff

Nope i changed them to my headset. The audio playback is fine.

Hmm.

ponders how much she cares

Tim Stone

What the hell was that? Hahah

Rebecca Chernoff

3:40 AM

So...this is...fun.

drachenstern

try being not in on that loop, it's even more ... fun

Rebecca Chernoff

Where's the test audio call like Skype has?

Dan Grossman

There's a test button on the setup page

press it, say something, press it again, and you should hear what you said played back

Rebecca Chernoff

guess what - I don't. q:

badp

nvm, I thought you meant Skype's.

Rebecca Chernoff

3:43 AM

My setup is fine for Skype (:

Michael Mrozek

Everyone call @RebeccaChernoff

Dan Grossman

Call initiated through Twilio API, now what?

I once called someone 1000 times in a single day, accidentally.

Michael Mrozek

I forgot I wanted to play with that

Rebecca Chernoff

It works with PTT on, just not off lol.

Tim Stone

Success! \o/

Rebecca Chernoff

3:46 AM

That seems kinda ridiculous.

The only thing I unchecked was PTT and I hit ok. >_<

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Seems to be the same for me as well.

Rebecca Chernoff

This seems quite sub-optimal.

Dan Grossman

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Q: career interview

is anyone here with a masters degree or some other form of high qualification willing to do a interview for my project due tomr ?

I blame @Zypher.

not my fault

3:50 AM

Who here has an android OS?

Rebecca Chernoff

hmm lemme try something.

drachenstern

How does someone add their first contact from the phone without going through gmail?

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff It seems you might need to change the sensitivity.

Rebecca Chernoff

whaaa?

Reno

@drachenstern im using a android tablet, i dont have to go thru gmail o_o

Dan Grossman

3:52 AM

@drachenstern I don't know what you mean

drachenstern

@Reno they could add the contact via gmail and it show up

how does someone add a contact on android?

I know how on iOS

Dan Grossman

@drachenstern People app, "Add contact" button at top

drachenstern

I presume you use the contacts app and there's a button that says "add"

Reno

there is a + button

somewhere

drachenstern

I'm not near the user, I'm supporting via FB for some ungodly reason

Reno

3:53 AM

press the menu button

oh a girl i presume :D

drachenstern

They know I don't have an android phone or experience too :\

@Reno indeed

Dan Grossman

drachenstern

And that's in the contact app?

Dan Grossman

it's called "People"

drachenstern

Where does she find "people"? She's saying she can't find it

I know on iOS there's a search screen I could just type into and get the app I want

does Android do that?

Dan Grossman

3:58 AM

badp

@drachenstern does anybody actually use that screen?

Dan Grossman

I don't know, not every android phone has the same buttons/skin

drachenstern

@badp I do

Dan Grossman

You can also get there by pressing the Phone button, then the icon in the lower right, then the icon in the lower left...

drachenstern

Yay! Shawshank Redemption on AMC. Guess what I'm watching

@DanGrossman thanks for the screenshots, I passed them on

Dan Grossman

4:03 AM

Dan like screenshots.

Jin

speaking of android, do you guys use android-se?

Dan Grossman

drachenstern

@DanGrossman I'm jealous ;)

Michael Mrozek

@Jin I think I was on there once

Dan Grossman

I didn't know there was an android SE. I don't use it.

Rebecca Chernoff

4:04 AM

stackexchange.com/sites

(:

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff We don't all get paid to browse that page like you do :)

badp

There's also a project management SE launched today.

Rebecca Chernoff

oy

Jin

@RebeccaChernoff so many sketchy favicon still..

Rebecca Chernoff

@Jin get to work! q:

Jin

4:06 AM

@RebeccaChernoff Sketchyoverflow

Rebecca Chernoff

hehe totally

and so many more!

Michael Mrozek

Wow. You have to go down pretty far to find topics I'm interested in

badp

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Everything You Always Wanted to Know about Sex but were Afraid to Ask

Proposed Q&A site for anyone who likes sex and thinks it's a fun and pleasurable thing; anyone wanting to improve his/her sex life.

Currently in commitment.

you mean this? :P

I wonder who the experts are in this field.

Michael Mrozek

@badp I'm already committed, obviously

Dan Grossman

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3303/…

Jin

4:09 AM

I'll be like the jon skeet of that site..

drachenstern

@badp I am, of course. I've done it like TWICE now with this one girl

we were out back of her parents barn and the cows were watching us the first time

It was awesome.

But look, don't lay down on the hay, when it gets in your butt it hurts

Michael Mrozek

And just like that we know who the top answerer of cows hay barn questions will be

mootinator

Better than sand getting in your butt on the beach

drachenstern

lmao

Reno

so new guys get a virgin badge or something ?

drachenstern

4:11 AM

@MichaelMrozek I think I would have performance anxiety if farm animals were around

mootinator

[badge:second base]

Reno

[badge:pimp]

Jin

I don't even know... how i'm going to design that site without it looking pr0nish.

Michael Mrozek

chump chumpette up yours pimpmobile

2

mootinator

lawl

Michael Mrozek

4:13 AM

@Jin If it doesn't look pr0nish you haven't done your job

Reno

like they did in the 60's ,,, flowers and birds

drachenstern

@MichaelMrozek I believe there's a rule about that ...

@Jin carmensboutique.com

you should hear her radio ads

Dan Grossman

nsfw

drachenstern

Also, I may be late in this one, NSFW LINK ABOVE

sorry :\ I figured that was a given since we were talking about a site considered to be about sex

Michael Mrozek

Somebody should close Skepticism before Skeptics Exchange launches. Someone in charge of handling communities. Coordinating them, perhaps

Dan Grossman

4:15 AM

Reno

the url was not pr0nish oh well

drachenstern

Anyways, whenever I see people mention that site I have visions of her stores with their poles in them and listening to her radio ads, it's the oddest relationship

especially since I don't live in Houston anymore

@Reno Ah but it was. It just wasn't pr0n

Jin

@drachenstern I wonder if her site is screenreader accessible..

drachenstern

@Jin yeah I doubt it

Dan Grossman

> Carmen's Boutique offers professional pole dancing classes in Houston. We also offer adult sex toys like ********, vibrating ****, rabbit ****, inflatable **** ****, **** beads, **** plugs & many more.

drachenstern

4:21 AM

5 votes left for today? Seriously? ffs

Dan Grossman

Hi @TylerChacha

Tyler Chacha

Hello

Dan Grossman

hah

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A: Does Ruby on Rails affect how a web page looks?

Ruby on Rails is a server side technology, so it doesn't lend any specific quality to the user visible design. That said, it is a "trendy" technology so people who are likely to write their back-end code with RoR are likely to choose a particular "Web 2.0" style for their views. It's kind of li...

pm.stackexchange.com I kinda hope the site fails, I hate PMs.

Tyler Chacha

isn't the goal of the site to improve PMs?

Thus making you not hate PMs?

drachenstern

Found a new "bug" in my userscript :/

Tyler Chacha

4:32 AM

thus making you want the site to succeed?

drachenstern

yay, I should really start a github or something

Dan Grossman

Nothing you do to improve PMs will change the fact that their purpose is to separate me from the person creating requirements for my code by at least 3 people, and ensure any uninterrupted periods available for serious coding get interrupted by planning meetings.

Reno

everyone hates PM's until you become one o_o

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drachenstern

@Reno here have a couple stars

drachenstern

4:59 AM

@TimStone you about?

Tim Stone

Hmm?

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