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12:48 AM

morning...

user315433

Who needs Chipotle when you can make similar at home? Tried our new Instant Pot making som… http://ift.tt/2aMHHhg https://t.co/fSMrn8sOb1

Tweeted by onlybluefeet on August 11, 2016 at 12:35 AM

user315433

Looks tasty. I've been using mine (same thing, also bought on Amazon Prime Day) a little but nothing so complicated. Easy things: steaming fish, cooking rice...

user315433

Still haven't been to Chipotle in ages, come to think of it.

user315433

Kept running into former students behind the counter when I went, so...

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user202362

1:09 AM

I wonder whether this room ever get to less than 10 peoples in the recent years

user315433

Six beta sites have 10+ questions/day currently (which is not easy to maintain during the summer): Data Science 10.6, スタック・オーバーフロー 10.6, Ethereum 13.2, Arduino 14.1, Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair 14.1, [es.so] 35.2

user315433

What, no magic link for ESSO? [sp.so] [es.so] Stack Overflow на русском Stack Overflow em Português

JamesENL

@Telkitty trigger a mass exodus

user202362

Census page still down ... & apparently attacked by oversea hackers

user202362

sometimes, go online is a terribly bad idea ...

Portal

1:24 AM

[es.so]

boo

user315433

Reported on Meta

user315433

1:36 AM

Both meta and main expand to the same thing here: Meta Stack Exchange Meta Stack Exchange

SmokeDetector

2:07 AM

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Quill

-2

A: I can't stop sneezing

This may seem silly but look at a bright light in the room stare at it while saying banana over and over again! The feeling should go away!!!

user315433

So we'll have a separate PM for Docs, but who is the current PM for SO Q&A?

user202362

Does stackoverflow main site have more rep ... enthusiasts?

Portal

Prime Minister?

user202362

is there any analysis on this ~~useless~~ topic

Portal

2:17 AM

by raw amount or percentage?

user202362

any

user315433

They appear to be hired with a specific product in mind, but this is not reflected on the company page.

Quill

Maybe they have different PMs for different Q&A sections

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Portal

I'm 95% confident SO has more rep-enthusiasts by raw amount. (source: guess)

user315433

2:21 AM

@Quill like Java and JavaScript? I was referring to SO meaning SO not SE.... Yeah, that is ambiguous

Quill

no I mean like a PM for the new view, a PM for the dashboard, a PM for the mod dashborad

not for tags

user315433

That sounds more like a Project Manager, which is not what I meant. Yay more abbreviation ambiguity.

SmokeDetector

2:53 AM

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Quill

3:04 AM

Best. Wikipedia. Edit. Ever. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chad_le_Clos&diff=733866761&oldid=733866586

Tweeted by nathanosman_dev on August 11, 2016 at 2:25 AM

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3:58 AM

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JamesENL

sd k

Jason C

@zaq Yes, I can see it now: "And now for my first act as your new project manager, I will be shutting down the project."

user315433

@SmokeDetector Too many adjectives... Are you calling us fat or what?

user315433

@JasonC except it's the proDUCT manager they're looking for.

user315433

They should be called Duct Managers and Ject Managers, with unambiguous abbreviations.

Quill

4:14 AM

@shog9 @onlybluefeet reminds me of the time when we had someone on AU who used to work for chipotle. Fun times. She gave us the guac recipe!

Tweeted by thatcoderiguana on August 11, 2016 at 4:14 AM in reply to shog9

JamesENL

4:38 AM

Got a good chuckle reading the whole thing about Crossover

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4:58 AM

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Quill

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 10 hours ago, by Compass

did I join a cult?

user202362

5:19 AM

Every cult has a holy figure, so who is the holely figure concerned?

Quill

rene is the holy figure

user202362

flowery cult, ~~honey~~ sweet

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5:42 AM

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6:11 AM

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JamesENL

sd 3k

SmokeDetector

6:24 AM

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bjb568

I tried to compute my GPA. For 3 hours. I failed.

Nothing I did matched remotely with what my school gave me.

I have a copy of my transcript (with very little information) that says my GPA after 9.75 credit hours was 61/15 to 5 sig figs. There is no way for either 61, 15, or 39.65=61/15*9.75 to appear.

Trying to take an average of my grade points underestimates by about 0.2, weighting then by credit hours underestimates by about 0.12, weighting again by 1 (regular), 1.25 (honors), and 1.5 (AP/college) overestimates by about 0.11.

I must conclude that the GPA my school reports to me is generated randomly.

How they actually tell me my GPA is thru a heavily compressed jpg served over HTTP on a district website, so I can easily imagine its actual value being made up.

SmokeDetector

6:59 AM

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Portal

7:10 AM

Doesn't seem to be a spam... or I was fooled.

Never mind. It's by bsscommerce, the same company the previous answer has been nuked by spam flag.

confused

SmokeDetector

8:09 AM

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Quill

sd k

user202362

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JamesENL

@Telkitty Census website is back up

Apparently

rene

8:44 AM

> Both moderators involved are no longer moderators. ... they are hired and are now employees?

bjb568

:o

user202362

9:25 AM

people would not need to experiment 'for science' if everything is open source

user202362

like moderators could ban each other 'for science' to see exactly what privileges remind when that happens and SE devs can just read the source code and know exactly what would happen

rene

that depends a bit on the codebase ... you could have a WTF Overflow ...

user202362

I am talking about real life not just programs

Magisch

@Telkitty "Wow I did not realize by just how much loose string and duct tape this entire site is kept from disintegrating"

user202362

"it's not a bug, it's a miracle!"

TIPS

9:30 AM

@Magisch Three hundred thousand rolls of duct tape

user202362

miracles are features created by God not bugs that God accidentally introduced

TIPS

81

Q: How far back in time would English be understandable to a modern speaker?

As we all know, language in England has changed massively over the centuries. How far back would someone be able to travel in time and still have a basic understanding of what most people are saying? The person going back in time is around 30 years old, only speaks English, and is located in ...

I'll never understand that site.

TIPS

9:51 AM

I should probably change my username and avatar again to make this transcript confusing.

Magisch

@TIPS Did you link your MS account to your SE account yet?

TIPS

I have.

Weird use of "yet"

Quill

10:32 AM

@rene no

Shadow Wizard

Shog is a real teaser.....

There may have been one exception to that "for science" thing. Both moderators involved are no longer moderators. — Shog9 ♦ 13 hours ago

Quill

you guys should be ashamed for not being a part of the big important people club

on a side note, I got my mod hat :)

Bart

"HURDURDUR I'M QUILL. HURDURDUR I HAVE A MOD HAT"

:p

Is that a wild @Pëkka I see there?

Ooh, that reminds me, Tim is supposed to provide us with an answer on the Careers issue.

Quill

10:51 AM

@Bart :(

they don't have mod glasses so.....

Bart

Myeah, it's why I never will be a mod. I have nothing to put the hat on.

Pëkka

@Bart Only for a second!

Bart

Nothing escapes me ... well ... mostly because the avatar stayed up longer.

Pëkka

Only to disappear again

@Bart eagle eyes!

@Bart he promised very good news

We will see!

Bart

Yeah, I'm quite curious about that one.

rene

11:06 AM

If it is what we hope for we can down vote other companies we don't like ...

Anything that is owned by Trump maybe?

Pëkka

My jobs pay so well, it's unbelievable.

A friend called me the other day, he's a developer, and he said, Donald, he said, the whole industry wants to work for you. Everyone. There's no one else that has such great jobs. They all want to work for me. And the benefits? Just unbelievable.

4

rene

:D

Pëkka

We're going to have great source control. And the best continuous integration. And we're going to do so much hallway testing, people are going to say, Mr. Trump, we need to stop! It's just too much great feedback we're getting, we can't handle it. And I'll say, keep it coming.

rene

Ok, sign me up. I'm convinced that will kill all the competition (as a figure of speech)

Pëkka

@rene We'll shoot it! With the hypothetical hunting rifles in our closets. Figuratively speaking.

rene

11:17 AM

...

Quill

11:57 AM

prepare to get partyvanned in 3... 2... 1...

1

Q: New tag for "My 1,2,3,4 are..." genre?

By now you've probably seen questions like this: My first through fourth are a test. My third through seventh are enough. What am I? with the answer being The idea is that each clue describes a substring of the solution, and placing the clue answers together in the specified way gives an...

discussion tags

confusing title award goes to

SmokeDetector

12:33 PM

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bjb568

12:49 PM

How exciting! I enrolled in a Mobile Networking class (grad level) and the course materials are being posted now! It seems legit.

Andy

1:03 PM

Before I make a fool of myself on MSE:

Can you load this file: cdn.sstatic.net/Js/stub.en.js?v=2eca9bea41df ? — Oded ♦ 48 secs ago

Does this mean "Can you click the link and it loads?"

or, something else?

@Oded ^

Oded

@Andy yes.

Andy

Ok. Yes, I can click it and see the javascript then

rene

the revisions are the same for me

and I had no repro with FF, nor with Chrome

Andy

This was working at home about an hour ago. When I got to the office I started seeing these errors. That's been in the last 20-30 minutes.

rene

another good reason to not go to the office

Andy

1:09 PM

I agree

rene

Looks like a cache downstream didn't refresh

Andy

"I'm sorry, boss, the internet here is just horrible. I can't stay at work today."

Oded

Where are you, @Andy? Psychical location (closest state is enough)

Andy

Illinois

Oded

Hm. Seeing reports from Texas and Oklahoma - though, things seem to be working now. Guessing the ISP screwed up a cache somewhere.

Andy

1:13 PM

Ok. I'll wait then.

Bart

@Oded psychical location? That's where you feel you are?

Oded

heh

Damn autocorrect

user202362

your name suits a CM better - Od'ed!

user202362

giving the feeling of ... being fixed by mafia

Bart

cough @Telkitty there is no such thing as mafia and Oded is certainly not a part of it ... cough ...

Oded

1:23 PM

There are no people around who can say for certain. Not anymore.

Andy

@Oded, the issue seems to have resolved itself. The JS error isn't showing and the UI is allowing me to vote and use the top bar for navigation again

Oded

Yeah - got reports of that already. Looks like a rogue cache that whoever is in charge of fixed.

rene

Maybe the CIO was in a meeting ...

user315433

Some days, the bug reports we get are “Images don’t work if you disable images”: http://meta.stackexchange.com/q/283239/135201 https://t.co/GAl7lGwhmQ

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on August 11, 2016 at 1:35 PM

user315433

1:42 PM

Allowing images from sstatic only would probably help.

Shadow Wizard

@zaq not sure it's possible, afaik the block is total. (i.e. checkbox "disable images")

@Telkitty direct translation of his name is "cheer up"

Oded

Anyone remember the post that someone thought they hacked Stack Overflow - turned out they discovered the developer tools on their browser?

Shadow Wizard

rofl!! yeah

user202362

client side hacking, awesome ...

user202362

'I hacked stackoverflow client in my browser'

user202362

1:52 PM

would up goat

Oded

Trying to find it, but no luck.

user202362

@Bart internet gangsta?

user202362

@ShadowWizard sounds a bit like 'audited'

user202362

@zaq you have too much reps on meta, are you considering deleting your account here any time soon?

bjb568

lolwat

This is in commonapp. This is sent to colleges that you apply to. Who would care?

Interestingly, you can indicate if you don't know if your parent is a mother or father.

user315433

2:06 PM

One could have been adopted by a same-sex family, or something.

bjb568

They don't need to be biological.

It's just "household".

user202362

@zaq yes, that would be the first thing to jump into your mind, wouldn't it?

user202362

Sometimes I can be so mean to some individuals. Although to be fair, I am generally great with everyone else ...

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@bjb568 uhhh

Portal

@bjb568 it could be worse, if you're growing up after your parents throwing you out to "someone"'s family for whatever circumstances.

bjb568

2:17 PM

Meh.

And either way you still have to give a complete list of all schools and degrees your parents have.

Even if you indicate you have limited info.

Shadow Wizard

2:35 PM

@Oded well, not really "hack", but maybe this is what you remember?

-1

Q: Reputation changes with more than 3 digits overflowing container

Reputation changes that are larger than 99 are shown out of the container it must be in. See these pictures for +100: And this for +1000: Tested with Safari 9 and Chrome 47 on OS X El Capitan.

bug status-declined design user-interface top-bar

Oded

Nope, not it. Someone was reporting a security issue, but it was just their developer tools or something like that.

Shadow Wizard

yeah, but most likely it's deleted by now.

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Shadow Wizard

sd k

bjb568

2:58 PM

Yay, horrendous behavior was fixed. github.com/nemisj/yield-yield/issues/5

user202362

3:15 PM

don't run away bench, we still 💗 U @za

Magisch

Hey @Oded I just read Tim Post is also writing an answer to meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/332037/… and depending on what that will be and how the topic plays out, could is it possible that tim can remove my answer from that topic when he posts?

Portal

subscribe to RSS feed to be alerted of Tim's answer

Oded

@Magisch I think you can delete it yourself if you wish. I doubt Tim would just delete it.

Jason C

3:31 PM

Hey @Oded, do you think you could unfreeze chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/32897/close-vote-cafe, and maybe make it un-re-freezable if you have the power?

Shadow Wizard

True, the only time you can't delete your own answer is when it's accepted (i.e. upvotes are not relevant). @Magisch

Jason C

We're wishing for it back at chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/31624820#31624820

Oded

@JasonC there are no "unfeezable" rooms - just how the system works. No activity => room gets frozen.

Jason C

Ah well. Can you unfreeze it for now at least?

Oded

> The last message was posted 140 days ago.

Jason C

3:32 PM

Yeah we want to use it again.

Oded

Unfrozen.

Shadow Wizard

@Oded yeah, even poor Jon has to unfreeze his room every 14 days since it only contain Feeds.

Jason C

@Oded Thanks!

Oded

@ShadowWizard yep. Chat rooms are supposed to be for... chatting. I know we don't always use them that way, but... that's the minority usage :)

Portal

reminds me of "iOS & Android SE app" chat room... (uh, it existed?)

Shadow Wizard

3:34 PM

@Oded true, with MSE chat domain as the exception. Out of 7 active room at the moment, only 4 are used to chat.

bjb568

blog.dictionary.com/ampersand and per se and => ampersand

Oded

Rooms that you know about ;)

Shadow Wizard

@Portal yeah, but since both app development appears to be dead/frozen, so is the room.

Even Brian stopped fixing bugs.

Jason C

@Oded chat room - n. - A real-time photo gallery intended to distribute photos of cats, dash cam car accident videos, and little kids falling off of trampolines.

Shadow Wizard

@Oded hehe, yeah I know about the active underground world you got here! :D

Jason C

3:36 PM

I just looked it up.

bjb568

Hey, Jason C's here!

Jason C

bjb568

Jason's not usually here, IIRC.

Oded

@ShadowWizard the first rule of chat club...

Jason C

I'm usually somewhere.

Fwiw.

Portal

3:38 PM

e.g. universe

bjb568

The void.

Bart

3:50 PM

@JasonC lies!

Jason C

Everything is a lie. Everything.

bjb568

4:04 PM

Lie!

Jason C

Your sunglasses are a lie. Cats don't need those.

IDIOT.

bjb568

:o

Lie group

In mathematics, a Lie group /ˈliː/ is a group that is also a differentiable manifold, with the property that the group operations are compatible with the smooth structure. Lie groups are named after Sophus Lie, who laid the foundations of the theory of continuous transformation groups. The term groupes de Lie first appeared in French in 1893 in the thesis of Lie’s student Arthur Tresse, page 3. Lie groups represent the best-developed theory of continuous symmetry of mathematical objects and structures, which makes them indispensable tools for many parts of contemporary mathematics, as well as for...

Shadow Wizard

@JasonC but not here... :-(

Jason C

4:29 PM

@ShadowWizard Like, with you? ... Does somebody need a hug?

Bart

Shadow Wizard

@JasonC nah, you fart too much. Thanks for the offer! ;-)

Bart

Aug 3 at 14:44, by Shadow Wizard

@Bart hey, my farts are real art work! :D

Jason C

@ShadowWizard Citation needed.

Shadow Wizard

@Bart lol but those are mine... Jason's are different. :D

@JasonC will find soon-ish

Bart

4:42 PM

We're probably entering TMI territory here :D

Jason C

4:59 PM

Yes please do not pursue your investigation of my farts. I will call the police.

user315433

The chart of votes per month on SO shows the number of upvotes suddenly increased in April 2015, and this increase was mostly sustained since then. What was the reason?

user315433

(Only votes on posts < month old are counted, to avoid observation bias. Deleted are included.)

user315433

Triage suggests upvoting sometimes, but it was introduced earlier. H&I was launched in March 2015, but it was never that big... April 2015 is when new profiles rolled out, hmm...

user315433

5:32 PM

JNat posted a sample of rude-flagged comments on Workplace. Hard to read without paragraph breaks, I find the source more readable.

user315433

> You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a overweight person in a tech role.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

cool. I passed 90K on SO today :-)

SmokeDetector

5:51 PM

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bwDraco

6:18 PM

sd ignore

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bwDraco

The question itself is meritorious.

SmokeDetector

6:58 PM

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rene

7:20 PM

I'll check there. if there isn't a resounding 'no' then the link Bart posted would probably be the place to link to. — Rodger 2 mins ago

@undo Your resounding NO is needed ^

undo

7:38 PM

Thanks @rene

Shadow Wizard

8:14 PM

@JasonC yes sir!

user315433

drob got into Time with his Trumptweet story.

Portal

@SmokeDetector Long Path Tool? On 3D Printing? facepalm

Shadow Wizard

8:35 PM

@zaq respect for SO! :D

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Jason C

9:39 PM

@Shog9 Hey; do you have any insight on meta.mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/1688/…?

I've been hunting around on mse for similar discussions but haven't yet found anything accounting for that high of a discrepancy.

And looking at that user's publicly available data it's not really explained by, say, it being a month behind, or just last 30 days, or whatever. I can't find any reasonably month-related time span that yields close to 2591 rep for that user.

Braiam

@JasonC caching?

Jason C

@Braiam I initially thought so too but I can't find any 30-ish day interval in the past that gives close to 2591.

user315433

The tooltip of month tab says "2016-08-01 to today", so it shouldn't be any other kind of interval.

user315433

Turns out there are four open Project Manager positions now: SO Careers, SO Docs, Internal Systems, and Digital Ads. That's some attrition.

user315433

> My team @StackOverflow is in need of a new Product Manager. Please spread the word. We're looking someone awesome stackoverflow.com/company/work-here/260717/… … -- Yaakov Ellis

user315433

9:52 PM

Not until you explain what you did with the old one...

user315433

@JasonC It's the same number as given for the quarter, and the quarter includes all of July.

Braiam

are you human, @zaq?

user315433

tlhIngan and SteveRacer are in the same situation, with equal amounts cited for "month" and "quarter".

hichris123

@zaq Ran them off again? :P

Jason C

@zaq Weird. Since 8/1 that user's only gotten 257 points. Their week tab is spot on. Their quarter tab is correct.

It's like the month tab didn't notice that august started. It's about right if you consider July 1st to today.

Shog9

10:09 PM

@JasonC oh, I see the problem.

Per-period rep totals are cached per user

And - like your main rep - they normally just get incremented or decremented when you earn or lose rep.

Jason C

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Q: Something wrong with month user rep -some users show quarterly figures?

There seems to be a bug on some sites right now: e.g. http://stats.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Reputation&filter=month "month" tab says that it's the score from 2016-08-01 but some users show their rep from start of July onward. It's not like that for everyone. For example, my own months rep...