Tavern on the Meta

@MarcGravell Speaking of which, is there a list of all of my posts that have been starred? I can see all starred posts, and all posts I've starred, but I can't find all posts of mine that have been starred

Ólafur Waage

No, no relation to SO reputation

Michael Mrozek

@ÓlafurWaage Stop stealing my questions

Ólafur Waage

Just a separate chat metric

Yi Jiang

You won't need @MarcGravell to give you the stats, here, let me whip up something using Google Chart API

Ólafur Waage

11:04 AM

@MichaelMrozek great minds..

Marc Gravell

you can get the data per-room easily enough; we don't currently denormalize it. But add a feature request on meta and we'll see if we can squeeze it in.

Ólafur Waage

Regarding Michaels request?

Marc Gravell

kinda both I guess

Ólafur Waage

alright

Marc Gravell

the only complication, though - is I can see lots of abuse of such a measure

Yi Jiang

11:08 AM

Seems right

Marc Gravell

I could name a few individuals who would... erm, deliberately skew things?

Ólafur Waage

@YiJiang haha

Marc Gravell

but if it improves your experience, I'm not morally opposed

@YiJiang oy! (:

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Benjol

I'd like more chat badges too :)

Ólafur Waage

@MarcGravell it's posted on meta under chat and feature-request, so it's there somewhere when you have time to do stuff.

Benjol

11:14 AM

Any ideas for silver and gold chat badge names?

Ólafur Waage

Post count

Edit count

How often you star things

How often things your things are starred

How long you are in chat (if that is logged)

How often you reply to others

How often you post links/images etc

Benjol

Hm there are some juicy synonyms here: articulate, big-mouthed, effusive, full of hot air, garrulous, loquacious, prolix, verbose, voluble

Ólafur Waage

haha

Marc Gravell

time in chat is meaningless - many people have seemingly permanent connections

Ólafur Waage

Aye

Benjol

11:17 AM

non-greyed time. Have fun tracking that :)

Ólafur Waage

Time in top 5

Marc Gravell

edit count isn't really like S&W, as most people can only do their own; "fat fingered" maybe

Ólafur Waage

How often a reply to your chat is starred (good comeback)

Benjol

@MarcGravell, I like that: "Fat-fingered: at least 50% of posts are edits"

Ólafur Waage

Hahaha

Marc Gravell

11:19 AM

I don't think 50% is reasonable

you'd have to do a count

but that just tells people "go deliberately edit for fun and profit"

although that doesn't really bother me

Ólafur Waage

Where can I cash in my SO rep for money?

Benjol

@MarcGravell, I think when if you are talking about chat & badges, seriousness is somewhat in the rear-view mirror :)

Marc Gravell

and round a few bends

Ólafur Waage

and sleeping

Marc Gravell

@ÓlafurWaage can we count in unicorn notes?

Ólafur Waage

11:21 AM

yes

Benjol

"Zombie: activity graph has no holes"

Ólafur Waage

I expect that you can pay me in waffles next time though.

Marc Gravell

ok; exchange rate is 1:1 (sounds reasonable). I only have 1M bills. Talk more.

Kragen

Will upvote for beer

Ólafur Waage

rarr

Writing an essay with beer = Winning combo

Benjol

11:22 AM

@YiJiang would be pretty close to getting "Zombie" :)

"Restrained: has never starred an 'Oy'"

Yi Jiang

@Benjol Oh god... goes off to look for Stack Overflow Chat anonymous

Benjol

@YiJiang, @Dan is worse.... if that's any consolation. He's almost of 'indeterminate timezone'

Ólafur Waage

Hah the TA for this class just realized that we just turned in 8-10 page solutions when they wanted 1-2 pages but forgot to state that. He'll have a fun time reviewing that.

LUNCH!

Benjol

"Subversive: has flagged a dev post (and survived)" :)

Nyuszika7H

12:01 PM

Hi there! :)

Ólafur Waage

12:12 PM

Hi where?

2

Sathya

just pitchin' in (again)

@Wil's blogpost reply is currently at #4 on HN

hackerne.ws/item?id=2225884

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Ólafur Waage

EE Bad, SE Good

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Michael Mrozek

I hadn't seen the reply on the blog -- I'd like to see the "7 second answer" he's bragging about

Ólafur Waage

true in many cases of that acronym

Michael Mrozek

I fail to see how that's even possible without rigging it

Nyuszika7H

12:20 PM

SO Public Beta…

Look at the footer!!

> Using this website may cause irreversible damage to the kidneys and liver.

Michael Mrozek

I'll assume that video was funny when it was still available

I like the SVN revision; I didn't know SO ever used SVN

Nyuszika7H

@MichaelMrozek Oh.

> This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Viacom International Inc. Sorry about that.

chat.meta.stackoverflow.com <-- So long URLs! It could be even longer: chat.meta.stackoverflow.stackexchange.com

Wil

@ÓlafurWaage Nice summary!

Ólafur Waage

yw :)

Nice post btw :)

Pen Island

Michael Mrozek

I can't believe how hysterical people think the expert sex change thing is. EE is plenty terrible without resorting to making fun of their name

Nyuszika7H

12:27 PM

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Ólafur Waage

Isn't every hour happy hour?

Benjol

@MichaelMrozek Yeah, it's a bit dumb snarking at EE about being snarky about SE, when SO/J&J were snarky about EE from the very start.

Ólafur Waage

Anyone programmed in OpenGL recently and know of a tutorial that isn't NeHe (out of date)

Nyuszika7H

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Ólafur Waage

....

Michael Mrozek

12:34 PM

@Nyuszika7H TIMER RESET

Nyuszika7H

Experts Exchange always had free registration! I didn't even know that.

Free EE account (please stand by)

Username: thatExpert

Password: tE-EExpert

E-mail: thatexpert@mailinator.com

ircmaxell

It used to be free to ask questions as long as you answered them (points from answering could be used to ask). Then they changed that and the site became pointlesss.

Michael Mrozek

Yeah, I didn't even know they'd changed that until now

Yi Jiang

12:54 PM

stackoverflow.com/questions/3619649/…

This is... I don't know, you tell me

Nyuszika7H

@YiJiang +1 on your answer

Ólafur Waage

Oh man, Steve is awesome

Nyuszika7H

@YiJiang How do I keep the text inside the div? jsfiddle.net/MWHCu

Yi Jiang

@Nyuszika7H Add some padding

Nyuszika7H

@YiJiang thanks :)

Benjol

1:03 PM

@YiJiang Well, yours does look like div2 over div1, try div1 over div2 :)

Or tell him to show you what he means :)

Yi Jiang

@Benjol Uh... right.

@Benjol Meh, I'm writing out something that'll show him what I did, the OP did, and what I assume the OP's problem is

Benjol

@YiJiang, but actually, I think he's expecting the shadow of div1 to overlay the border of div2 too

Yi Jiang

@Benjol What border?

Benjol

@YiJiang hang on, trying to do you a png of what I think he means

Yi Jiang

@Benjol That... shouldn't happen. Which browser?

Benjol

1:08 PM

Paint.NET :)

That's my interpretation of what Steve is trying to say. No idea if I'm right, but could explain the misunderstanding

Just one thing. Why does he say "we" in his first comment?

Yi Jiang

@Benjol He probably means himself, the royal we, hrmp...

Benjol

@YiJiang, you don't have to, you just like to suffer :)

Yi Jiang

@Benjol That's a very likely explanation, yes

Benjol

You could always suggest that if he wants a professional answer, he can try the free subscription on EE :)

If he can find it...

Nyuszika7H

@YiJiang Nice! :)

Benjol

1:18 PM

ditto

Nyuszika7H

Revision 2

– Replaced class with ID
– Toggle button is inside the bubble if it's visible, otherwise it's outside.
– Improved shape

Benjol

Unchanged
- horrible colour...

Ólafur Waage

404

Michael Mrozek

> @Steve Excuse me? The solution obviously worked for the OP, or else he wouldn't have marked it as accepted.

If only that were always true

Benjol

1:36 PM

thinks: this is worse than coding kitten.... :(

2

Those two are pretty good :)

Michael Mrozek

This whole conversation is going to end up flagged

Nyuszika7H

@MichaelMrozek :/

Zypher

@Nyuszika7H dude cut it out

Benjol

thinks: move to ->> elsewhere

Yi Jiang

@Benjol The Trash Heap dum dee dum

Benjol

1:45 PM

@Zypher, just kill everything from 516236 to 516262. Oh and 516231 & 516232

Ivo Flipse

12 messages deleted

Zypher

@IvoFlipse thanks on a 3g card so that woulda been annoying

Yi Jiang

The erhm... Cook Island one?

Ivo Flipse

np @Zypher

I suspended him for being annoying, guess I'll undo it when I feel like it

Benjol

@IvoFlipse, can't you just bin everything?

Ivo Flipse

1:48 PM

5 messages deleted

well it's clean enough, so enjoy

and happy EE-slapping

Michael Mrozek

Clearly we'll need to talk more to push the delete notices off the screen

Benjol

like this?

(removed)

maybe not :)

Michael Mrozek

Benjol

ok, that's done it :)

Ólafur Waage

;)

Benjol

1:52 PM

@MichaelMrozek, have you got others apart from balpha?

that could be fun

Yi Jiang

We need a generator for it!

Michael Mrozek

@Benjol I saved this one ages ago intending to make another, but I haven't gotten around to it:

Benjol

Just add the jon skeet dressing gown in there, and I'd call that a winning set :)

Michael Mrozek

I'm terrified to ask

Benjol

Trying to find the photo now... :)

@MichaelMrozek, take your pick:

Michael Mrozek

2:06 PM

Oh, I have seen that. (Which worries me)

Benjol

Ólafur Waage

What are you doing to us?

I wonder why though the most prolific SO user isn't in the chat

is he shy?

Benjol

@ÓlafurWaage, he popped into SO chat once, said nothing (IIRC), and left

he's too busy answering questions. no rep in here :)

Yi Jiang

@Benjol He's used MSO chat when it was in beta before

Ólafur Waage

while it was underground

Benjol

2:12 PM

@YiJiang That's like, ancient history you're talking about :)

George Stocker

I'm really glad there are no embarrassing photos of me outside of facebook.

balpha

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Benjol

@GeorgeStocker goes looking :)

Ólafur Waage

Best bug report ever! meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/79485/…

Yi Jiang

@ÓlafurWaage Votse! It's like... the other... let's not go there

Ólafur Waage

2:18 PM

go there

i dare you

George Stocker

I'm resisting the urge to make a goatcse joke.

Benjol

@GeorgeStocker thankyou, your efforts are appreciated :)

Michael Mrozek

@ÓlafurWaage Good thing that critical bug is getting the attention it deserves. Let's not worry about the complete inability to read title diffs or anything

>.<

Yi Jiang

@MichaelMrozek But... but... votse! Will somebody please think of the children?

drachenstern

Great, my "To Procrastinate About" list is full. Now I have to put things in my "To Do" list. At least not my "To Actually Do" list. Yet.

Tweeted by Avatar_of_DEK on February 16, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Yi Jiang

2:36 PM

OO.o is having display problems, on Ubuntu no less. This is weird...

What's with those artifacts on the toolbar menus?

Michael Mrozek

Clearly they're offensive, and you have Ubuntu in PG-mode

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Yi Jiang

@MichaelMrozek Heh

badp

Didn't you know? If you try and post 'u' you'll get flagged, suspended, caged and then drowned.

That's why it renders that way.

C. Ross

Does anyone know of a GM script similar to (or and updated version of) stackoverflowQdashboard

Yi Jiang

@CRoss What is that suppose to do?

C. Ross

2:42 PM

Ólafur Waage

@MichaelMrozek Screw you and your title bugs!

Yi Jiang

@CRoss I saw that, but I'm still unsure about what the script does

C. Ross

it gives some high level info about a question... for example, it will tell me if Jeff or Joel posted on Meta, if the question is from a low rep user, whether there are high vote comments

Yi Jiang

Pulls up info from within the question right up to the top, hrm...

C. Ross

hmmm, it's on git-hub. I could always go fork it myself

Loïc Wolff

2:46 PM

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Q: yes! is an apple hardware

-***** there is no solution that i can use to switch it on when it shows me a folder and a question mark inside without or with a disk or dvd?

ibooks

I'm lost.

C. Ross

yeah, staring at the sun, not good for you

tombull89

@LoïcWolff wow. First time I've been on apple.se...what a first question to see.

Loïc Wolff

Maybe he means that

Ólafur Waage

@balpha <3

Nyuszika7H

3:03 PM

Hi again, and sorry… :/

C. Ross

welcome back

drachenstern

wb Nyus

badp

aardvark-g204

(From Parag M./M/Mumbai,India)
*internet*
what to do when there is loss in packets and the some websites are taking time to load...??

(Type 'pass' to skip, 'refer' to forward, or 'more' for options.)

"Have you tried forcing an unexpected reboot?"

Ólafur Waage

pass

Nyuszika7H

Daily vote limit reached; vote again in 8 hours. :/

Hmm, wait, shouldn't I get a badge for that?

Ólafur Waage

3:17 PM

no

that's a bad answerer!

Michael Mrozek

It's probably not immediate

Nyuszika7H

@ÓlafurWaage Yes I should. Suffrage

Ólafur Waage

^^

Nyuszika7H

Hooray! This is my 100th day on SO!

Popular Demand

@Nyuszika7H I hope you've earned Fanatic.

Nyuszika7H

3:23 PM

@PopularDemand No, I have only 42 consecutive days :(

Michael Mrozek

Unacceptable

Popular Demand

@Nyuszika7H Wow. I thought you were cool. No cookie.

drachenstern

So, serious question time:

Ólafur Waage

uh oh

drachenstern

A user, a lady friend of mine, who has a OSX box at home, is looking to upgrade from her feature phone to a smartphone. She's migrating from AT&T to VZW so she can take advantage of 3G. Her DSL is something like 768k. I'm her primary tech support. I use an iPhone because until this past year I thought it was the best phone on the market. (atm I have different opinions, but still)

I also am the primary support guy for my family and extended family, so naturally I have them all on iPhones as well (nothing like the hardest question being answered with did you do a hard power off?)

Should I point her at the iPhone4 and be done with it, or should I show her an Android?

We've already had the discussion about the iPhone5 likely due out by July and upgraded from the 4, but she's dead set to get off AT&T and so wants to do so NAO

Zypher

3:33 PM

@drachenstern point her to a VZW store and tell her to go fondle phones till she finds one she likes

especially concentrate the keyboard (virtual or otherwise)

probably should go with her to fend off the sales creatures

drachenstern

@Zypher I'm actually taking her to the local VZW store this morning and making her fondle the phones, and especially the keyboards, this AM

Zypher

nothing like a bit of AM fondling

drachenstern

she's played with the iPhones, but I'm torn between selling her on the Androids or keeping her on the iOS since she's already on OSX

Zypher

well if the iphone had a real keyboard i'd be all over that but that's me ...

Diago

If she works with OSX, and enjoys it, stick to the iPhone

Every other not IOS phone is a pain to set up sync etc on OSX.

drachenstern

3:36 PM

@Diago that's my first thought, but wanted to run it past the room

groupbrain for the win

Diago

Unless you find a phone that has a big sticker on it that says "Works with Apple"

That is not an iPhone.

drachenstern

lol, doubt THAT

ok, I'mma go afk for a bit, need to see a man about a horse and get some real coding done

Popular Demand

@Diago "Sure, you're free to leave the Mac cult at any time. Exit's past the spike pit, flame wall and hungry bears, there."

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Diago

@PopularDemand Lolz. I will paraphrase my wife. "We've only had the iPads for a week, and we are already slaves to them"

Apart from the fact that the only PC I have left in my house is my server, and that's fairly soon being replaced with a Mac Mini or Mac Pro.

drachenstern

@Diago I showed my wife the ads for those, she was all "meh" ... I drug her down to the Apple store and put one in her hands. 30 seconds later she asked when we were buying a pair.

Her friend got one for xmas, then accidentally (don't ask) got a second one for xmas. Rather than share, they decided they needed two after all ;)

C. Ross

3:39 PM

> You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

drachenstern

ok really, I'm going

Diago

@drachenstern I have the same delema. My wife and I both have: 15" i7 MacBook Pro's (8GB + 250GB HDD), 64GB Wifi iPads and 8GB iPhone 3GS.

Popular Demand

@CRoss Ah, Hotel Cupertino. Good song.

Diago

I spend more money on Apple then I have in the last 15 years on PC's. But worth. every. cent.

Michael Mrozek

I think this is the first time I've gotten one of my posts closed as a duplicate of another one of my posts: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/79492/…

badp

3:44 PM

Heh.

Popular Demand

@MichaelMrozek And they were asked at roughly the same time, too. Spectactular.

tombull89

Makes for some interesting convesations in my house, I'm a PC guy (school network technican) although my brother is iPhone + MacBook all the way (but as he's music-based that's fair enough).

Diago

4:00 PM

I don't have a creative or musical bone in my body.

C. Ross

Is it just me, or is Linux lumped in with PC now?

Diago

@CRoss I have 2 friends that run Ubuntu on Mac... Does that count?

drachenstern

@CRoss I don't understand the question

Diago

My best edit. ever.

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Q: Can't boot Mac, only shows a Folder with a Question Mark?

How do I start up a Mac when all it shows is a Folder with a Question Mark, even with a DVD in the drive? Image courtesy of Loïc Wolff

mac startup troubleshooting

apple.stackexchange.com/posts/8517/revisions

Dan Grossman

> But the critical moment came on the evening of 30 January when, it is now clear, Mubarak ordered the Egyptian Third Army to crush the demonstrators in Tahrir Square with their tanks after flying F-16 fighter bombers at low level over the protesters.

> Many of the senior tank commanders could be seen tearing off their headsets – over which they had received the fatal orders – to use their mobile phones. They were, it now transpires, calling their own military families for advice. Fathers who had spent their lives serving the Egyptian army told their sons to disobey, that they must never kill their own people.

> Thus when General Hassan al-Rawani told the massive crowds yesterday evening that "everything you want will be realised – all your demands will be met", the people cried back: "The army and the people stand together – the army and the people are united. The army and the people belong to one hand."

C. Ross

4:10 PM

@drachenstern At one point I heard a lot of people describe themselves as Linux users, but now I only hear PC vs Mac ... almost as if it's Mac vs Everyone Else

@DanGrossman That's so cool.

Reminds me of OathKeepers

Popular Demand

4:29 PM

@DanGrossman [citation needed]

Dan Grossman

@PopularDemand independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/…

Robert Fisk

Robert Fisk (born 12 July 1946) is an English writer and journalist from Maidstone, Kent. Middle East correspondent of the The Independent, he has primarily been based in Beirut for more than 30 years. He has published a number of books and has reported from the United States's attack on Afghanistan and the same country's 2003 invasion of Iraq. Fisk holds more British and International Journalism awards than any other foreign correspondent. Career The New York Times once described Robert Fisk as "probably the most famous foreign correspondent in Britain." He reported the Northern Irel...

Popular Demand

@DanGrossman Thanks.

@DanGrossman [excessive citation provided]

Dan Grossman

Well, "/opinion/" in the citation URL makes it seem untrustworthy

But whose opinion piece is important on this one

Popular Demand

I know, but once I have the source I can dig that up myself. It was tongue-in-cheek, though. (Since the onebox made the citation longer than the source.)

Ólafur Waage

5:06 PM

(number of votes per hour on SO) i.imgur.com/wXb3T.png

Kev

5:31 PM

@DanGrossman I have his monster tome "The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East"

Popular Demand

@ÓlafurWaage "Citizen Patrol, I choose you!"

Ólafur Waage

!! ?

Popular Demand

@ÓlafurWaage You made a comment about Pokemon.

That's what they used to say in that show, isn't it?

C. Ross

... what's that website where you can use SO/SF/SU as pokemon?

Ólafur Waage

@PopularDemand no clue

badp

5:46 PM

@CRoss favimon.

C. Ross

Yeah, that even ended up on Mozilla Labs ...

Tim Stone

5:58 PM

@ÓlafurWaage "I choose you, Revival-badge-mon!"

Popular Demand

@TimStone Please. Citizen Patrol could take Revival any day of the week.

With two citizens tied behind its collective back, even!

Tim Stone

Indeed, indeed.

Ólafur Waage

Wait, isn't it friday in iceland?

Tim Stone

eurogamer.net/articles/…

> "I couldn't really get past anybody that would spend the money that it would take to do it and keep an R rating," he explained.

...Wouldn't the R rating put it in the game's demographic space? goes to check the rating

Popular Demand

@ÓlafurWaage You don't know? Who are you, and what have you done with Ólafur?!

Tim Stone

6:07 PM

Yeah, the game is rated M. That's...kind of a stupid rationale on the movie studios' parts.

Ólafur Waage

:D:D

C. Ross

R rated movies make less money. Period

Tim Stone

@PopularDemand Mrozek reported the notification bug in Chat Feedback, not sure if someone reported it on MSO proper

Popular Demand

@TimStone Thank you.

Tim Stone

Though in my experience it isn't actually a bug, but maybe they get their notifications at a different time.

I was getting mine 25 minutes past the hour, at which point there was more than two hours to go, but less than three. I just assumed it rounded down.

Michael Mrozek

6:12 PM

I guess it's possible it rounds down, but mine rounded down 58 minutes if so

Tim Stone

Hmm, I wonder why I get my notifications so much later then.

One at 12:23, one at 12:24, and one at 6:24.

I spun the WOB to find out who was responsible, and somehow it was me. This troubles me. :P

Popular Demand

If your roles were reversed, I'd say that rchern did a mrozek.setAnnoyances(true), but now I just don't know what to think.

Tim Stone

A look at the API indicates there's a setConfusion(boolean) method, maybe she opted for that instead.

Nyuszika7H

0

Q: How to get jQuery pop to disappear again?

How do I get my jQuery pop-up to disappear again when "approvals" is clicked again? $(function() { $('a.approvals').click(function(e) { var html = '<div id="info">'; html += '<a href ="http://www.coned.com/es/specs/gas/Section%20VII.pdf" div id="ConED"><img border= "0" ...

jquery popup

thecoop

Is stackexchange very slow, or is it just me?

Tim Stone

6:17 PM

Also, go @badp, attack!

@thecoop Seems alright to me. Were you having issues with a particular site, or just in general?

thecoop

SO is very slow loading the main page

still spinning after about a minute

its quite variable too

Ólafur Waage

i QQ over the data explorer being down

Tim Stone

@ÓlafurWaage Where's waffles so we can blame him?

Nyuszika7H

waffles ♦, AU

30.3k 3 49 120

discussion status-completed feature-request bug support data-explorer stackoverflow

Ólafur Waage

@TimStone THAR!

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