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Quill

12:08 AM

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John

12:49 AM

@Quill I'm asking why not why not

JamesENL

Morning

user202362

2:07 AM

Quill

2:53 AM

I'm learning Haskell this semester :3

Quill

3:03 AM

A new burrito place opened up on campus and they're offering free burritos.... there's a line of what would be 300 people waiting for a free burrito

hichris123

4:22 AM

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hichris123

4:50 AM

Any new meta drama today?

Quill

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Q: Please review answers on this popular question

What is the fastest way for a robot with superhuman capabilities to make money? has, so far, 38 answers. (Did you know there's an auto-flag for "more than 30 answers"?) On a quick scan most of them look good, though it looks like there might be some overlap. I see two that are about mining bit...

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bjb568

5:17 AM

@Quill would be?

hichris123

5:50 AM

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A bit cleaner now...

Quill

Eww oracle SQL and MySQL this semester

@hichris123 not that I can see, there's too many documentation MSO questions

It seems our friend JasonC has forsaken us for Motor Vehicle and Maintenance and Repair:

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Q: Canonical question for "Low beams don't work, high beams do."

This comes up a lot: Low beams out high beams work High Beams work, Low beams don't, But . . No low beams but do have high beams Electrical - Low beams out, high beams still work Low beams don't work but the high beams work in a 2002 Toyota Tacoma Low beam headlights out, High beam working High...

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Shadow Wizard

Crap flood in MSE, we need a plumber...

@Quill so rude! :D

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Quill

@ShadowWizard we need to call 1800-ODED

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Derpy

7:26 AM

@ShadowWizard Its a me, Mario!

Shadow Wizard

lol

Magisch

I think documentation in and of itself will become the center point of a meta war

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch why?

Magisch

@ShadowWizard Tensions are running hot on the rep question

JamesENL

@Magisch Linky?

Magisch

7:39 AM

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Q: Documenting the problems with documentation

Documentation has finally reached public beta, and it looks quite good, but (there's always a but) there are some things wrong with it. Duplicated content We have quite a few canonical (general) answers here on SO, and instead of moving them over to documentation they're just getting c&p'ed, ...

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JamesENL

ty

sd 2k

Spam can't even spell 'Company' right

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch I think this one would be better example of potential "war":

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Q: Don't give me reputation points for making an edit to a Documentation topic

My reputation score is still low enough that I get excited when I see I have jumped +40 points in one day. Oddly today this happened, and I found it was because people had upvoted a topic that I had edited in Documentation (I had removed an unnecessary section, which in the best use of wiki tech...

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/cc @James ^

For some reason, this one got zero official attention, not even a tiny comment.

Which probably makes people there more angry.

JamesENL

7:56 AM

I was pleasantly surprised to find that bundle of extra rep on launch day

I find it funny how I've got a page of documentation examples, but only the ones near the top got upvotes

Magisch

@JamesENL Its the pile on effect

Jon Ericson

8:17 AM

@ShadowWizard The main reason is that there have been 566 meta questions about Documentation (so far) and we can't get to all of them. Of all the things to worry about, reputation is the least interesting at the moment. It's the most likely to change.

Magisch

@JonEricson About that. If you guys change what does constitute a substantial edit, will that be applied retroactively?

Jon Ericson

@Magisch Yes.

Magisch

@JonEricson So in theory people could lose literally tens of thousands of rep from that very easily?

Jon Ericson

@Magisch If we wait long enough. But that's why we have the beta label.

Magisch

@JonEricson Thats gonna generate an unprecended amount of moaning

remember what happened with the great rep recalc?

rene

8:22 AM

Under the Beta regime internet points are even more imaginary ...

Jon Ericson

@Magisch We get used to moaning. It's part of the job.

user202362

kinky!

rene

wrong room?

user202362

you know what other professions are used to moaning?

Jon Ericson

@Telkitty Ghostbusters?

user202362

8:29 AM

how so?

Jon Ericson

Scary Sound - Moaning Ghost

►

user202362

sounds like an elephant, at least the starting bit

Derpy

Finally the day has come.

Quill

23 hours ago, by Quill

I'm enjoying it, but there's no way they're not gonna nerf this

Jon Ericson

Add zookeeper to the list, then.

user202362

8:31 AM

and peace activists?

user202362

making xxxx not war

Shadow Wizard

@JonEricson sorry but that's not a reason. This is the most upvoted non-SE-employee documentation question on MSO.

Personally I'm not inside of this, but as a side viewer it's.... not encouraging.

(i.e. team ignoring such a popular argument.)

nicael

@JonE Someone upvoted me serially, then tomorrow it will be reversed and I lose a ton of rep (since the reversal doesn't count towards the rep cap). Could it be reversed now?

Do you have the tools for that?

Quill

The thing with Documentation is that there's two sides to the coin, the FR side and the Rep side

On the one hand, there's a plethora of awesome FRs and suggestions

But people think their "hard earned rep" is losing value because these "whippersnappers" are gaining it massively with Docs

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Shadow Wizard

8:41 AM

IMO binding Documentation reputation with SO reputation is huge mistake, that will antagonize many long time users on SO. Stack Overflow might lose quite a few of them, becoming Documentation Overflow.

Quill

Change is always scary

People went into uproars about Careers being added to the site, or "fun" being off-topic

Shadow Wizard

@Quill but it didn't hurt their reputation.

Quill

No, it literally just took up shelf space

Shadow Wizard

It can be seen as bunch of new people gaining super easy rep for no good reason.

Jon Ericson

@ShadowWizard That's a losing battle. We have to prioritize things and so far the thing we've prioritized is bug fixes. (Even so, day one even introduced the very first change to the reputation system.)

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Quill

@JonEricson You could say devs work faster than rep solutions appear ;-)

JamesENL

sd k

Shadow Wizard

@JonEricson of course, but I believe a response like "Thanks for the feedback, we'll take a look" would mean something.

Jon Ericson

@ShadowWizard There's only one way to know if it's a mistake and nobody has more to lose than we do.

Shadow Wizard

@JonEricson yeah, time machine... ;)

Quill

8:45 AM

People come and go, it's unrealistic to assume that you can live in an ideal world forever with the same ideal people

Magisch

@JonEricson Thats what I mean by this will incite a meta war

Quill

Game of Docs

user202362

sometimes those people are much less than ideal and they don't go

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch not really meta war, IMO. People would just leave.

Oded

@Quill cleanup on aisle 5

Magisch

8:46 AM

One faction will heavily argue in favor of keeping their reputation, and one side will feel their contributions are devalued in comparison. There is no way to win this, you'll piss of huge swaths of users either way.

Shadow Wizard

@Oded heh, too late... crap wave already over. :P

Quill

there'll be another.... just wait

Oded

Yep yep. I always clear up the remains though.

Shadow Wizard

waiting

@Oded are there remains? Can't see any...

Magisch

And the later the change to rep comes, the more people will be more pissed off. Beta or not, most users will certainly not like losing rep for any reason. We've seen the by comparison infernal outcry over the rep recalc

Shadow Wizard

8:49 AM

@Magisch this is still different. But as @Jon said, only time will tell...

Portal

The only move is not to play.

Shadow Wizard

In the meantime, @Bart can eat his popcorn. :D

Jon Ericson

@Portal The only winning move. . .

Portal

facepalm myself

Oded

@ShadowWizard I am taking about spam users, users that are q-banned on SO etc...

user202362

8:50 AM

s/winning/whining/

user202362

whine == moan?

Portal

a bit different, but... uh, yeah

Magisch

On a positive note

There is this guy with 230 answers

Shadow Wizard

@Oded no spam, there were like 5 off topic questions on MSE.... so you suspend those who do it while being Q-banned on SO?

Magisch

Of his top 11 answers, 8 were plags

I'm now working my way through to find the rest of his plags

And already found 4 more

rene

8:51 AM

@ShadowWizard don't feed the tr .... oh wait ...

Shadow Wizard

feeding the @Bart

Oded

@ShadowWizard and those who have done it more than once.

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch what is a "plag"?

Oded

To reinforce that... they need to pay attention to where they are.

Magisch

@ShadowWizard Verbatim plagiarism

Shadow Wizard

8:52 AM

oh

rene

@Telkitty snap out of it, will you

Magisch

Whole-cloth copying of other answers or external ressources without attribution

Quill

burn baby burn

Magisch

The guy is already suspended

Shadow Wizard

@Oded true that. :)

JamesENL

8:53 AM

It worked well for me. I just took my canonical Hibernate answer and put it into Docs as separate examples.

user202362

It's hard to not plag in computer science, how many ways do you know to implement a Binary Search Tree? If that is an assignment questions ...

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch yeah, as he should be.

Magisch

I'm not done with him yet

I hate people who just copy stuff for rep

user202362

if I copied 10 lines of code and changed the while loop into a for loop, is it still plagiarism?

Magisch

I may be wrong, but I wouldn't see that as plag

JamesENL

8:56 AM

@Telkitty Isn't that essentially how we all got through uni assignments?

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty if you then put it on Documentation to harvest rep then yes.

user202362

plagiarism could be much worse - just changing function & variable names

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty that's why it's hard to catch. But still, if caught, such users should be punished.

user202362

if someone is serious about catching plagiarism, there is a very simple solution: select all the code snippets from Stackoverflow, change them into machine code(thus eliminate variable name changes), then do a comparison. If 90% match, put them in a section for review.

user202362

to make it more complete: reorder function sequence then compare them

user202362

9:02 AM

although I am not quite sure the merit of catching plagiarism

Portal

Plagiarism. In programming code.

rene

OK, you start working on the change them into machine code and let us know when you're done.

user202362

you have tags to help you with that

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Magisch

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 1 min ago, by Magisch

12. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35645924/waiting-time-is-high-when-using-wind‌ow-location-href-or-assign-or-reload/36847626#36847626 Top part copied from https://blog.cloudflare.com/ttfb-time-to-first-byte-considered-meaningles/ ,Graphic Copied from https://varvy.com/pagespeed/ttfb.html Conclusion part from https://www.rackaid.com/blog/time-to-first-byte/

This guy is crafty

Portal

9:05 AM

At least C for effort

Quill

HAI Sun Flower

user202362

Also I am not interested in catching plagiarism, I am not sure that good it would do to eliminate all plagiarism. I also have to agree that implementation would be a lot harder than the concept

Portal

@SmokeDetector k

rene

Only 373 posts on SO contain plagiarism. It is not a big deal.

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Bart

9:55 AM

@ShadowWizard I'm not sure that putting food in my mouth without my consent is a good idea ... but then again, it's popcorn. So yay!

Magisch

Feeding @rene Is easy. Just put soil on his roots and water a bit.

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch don't forget he also needs sunlight

@Bart you're welcome!

user202362

digital flower needs reps to grow

Bart

@Magisch I love to soil his roots ... wait ... that sounds wrong

I feel I have done well by staying out of the whole Documentation thing for a while.

user202362

Apparently feederism is a sub-category of fetishism

user202362

10:10 AM

@ShadowWizard ^

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty nah, only @Bart-ism

rene

10:27 AM

@Bart I assume you can reject stuff brought up for review

Quill

@JonEricson yeah.... I was telling basically everyone in the chat room to take it to meta.... I get the feeling a substantial amount of those are dupes

Shadow Wizard

@rene Documentation stuff gets to the ordinary review queues on SO?

(or do you mean ordinary review?)

rene

@ShadowWizard No, here

but it is easy. You select some text, search on Google. If a hit -> reject plagiarism, if no hit -> leave it alone, someone else will accept it

You only have 30 reviews so, it is doable

Shadow Wizard

10:43 AM

@rene heh, sounds like something a bot can do.

But... one can create a new room on SO chat where items that need to be rejected will be posted, and people will go over it and reject.

@rene also, honestly, I still don't really get how it works.

rene

@ShadowWizard is already there and SOCVR has it on their agenda for the RoomMeeting next monday

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Quill

@ShadowWizard sounds like Documentation Review

Shadow Wizard

For example, what's going on here? Has the editor just removed the whole post/example? (in which case how come it's still not rejected after two days??)

Quill

@rene room meetings sound like fun.... although Happy Hour is usually pretty fun :3

rene

10:47 AM

@Quill well, SOCVR tries to be as boring as possible, which isn't hard with me around

@ShadowWizard yeah, there are some weird things with the diffs and revision being merged/screwed up either in real or only for reviewers

Magisch

@rene I noticed when you are around the kyll throwing decreases

Shadow Wizard

@rene so I can't really review as I don't know what's going on, and don't want to break things I don't understand.

(of course I'll get the idea at some point, given enough time.... but like @Bart I prefer to wait a bit with spending my time on this.)

rene

@ShadowWizard that particular case: no. You might find others that aren't screwed up

Magisch

Time to get the legendary badge while the docs rep is still flowing

Quill

11:02 AM

do I get an honourable mention badge? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/329391/…

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rene

@Quill yes, granted

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@SmokeDetector I don't think that is a spammer, just an unfortunate newbie

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Quill

12:07 PM

New drinking game: Take a shot every time someone's elitism fetish for Q&A kicks in and they argue without any points that docs shouldn't give rep

Magisch

@Quill In unrelated news, @Quill dies of alcohol poisoning

Quill

yeah.... they're mostly >50k users as well.... ;-;

> Now am not saying that they don't deserve any reputation points for the hard work they put to build the documentation topics/content but this is not fair to other users who earned the reputation points by answering on questions.

smells like the stench of elitism

Portal

Just remove this whole "reputation system" and let's see how SE goes (Wikipedia doesn't have rep)

Or probably userscript to hide reputation.

Quill

12:33 PM

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Portal

Cool~

And here... I'm back again with SOUP (no, not that @soup) installed...

Shadow Wizard

12:50 PM

@Oded just wondering.... OP here is q-banned on SO?

@Portal this?

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The Stack Overflow Unofficial Patch (SOUP) is a project to collect various minor client-side bug fixes, work-arounds and usability improvements for Stack Overflow and other Q&A sites on the Stack Exchange Network into a single user script. The intent of SOUP is not to make any substantial o...

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Oded

@ShadowWizard nope. One deleted post, but that's it.

Derpy

@Quill Gotta protect yer privileges.

Quill

"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."

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Shadow Wizard

@Oded oh. Weird... wonder how he got to MSE then.

Oded

/me shrugs - happens fairly often.

Shadow Wizard

12:55 PM

Can't deny that...

user202362

1:08 PM

@ShadowWizard socks?

user202362

some people have the habit of deleting old accounts and setting new ones

rene

Not Sha his socks again ...

Quill

honest time: I have a lot of socks.

for example, I put final fantasy ones on today

Magisch

@Oded hey

Derpy

@Quill here, for you.

user315433

1:21 PM

@Portal I think there's a reason why Wikipedia doesn't have reputation.

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty nah, don't think so. Most people don't even think of using socks. (In SO, that is. ;))

user315433

Or why CW posts on SE do not earn reputation.

Shadow Wizard

@Quill Squall? Or Zell? ;)

user315433

Documentation is a project on rediscovering those reasons.

Shadow Wizard

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs what's the reason?

Quill

1:24 PM

@ShadowWizard i don't know, I haven't played final fantasy in too many years.... they just look really pretty

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch like balpha (or was it Shog?) said before, you better ask what you want to ask, not just ping SE employee with a useless "hi".

Magisch

I was going to type something

Shadow Wizard

but... you didn't.

Magisch

But then I realised someone had already dealt with the problem

Sorry :/

Shadow Wizard

So you could delete the message. Oded can be scary when angry.... ;)

Bart

1:25 PM

@ShadowWizard hi

Shadow Wizard

lolz

@Bart next time you're in Den....... :D

Bart

/me will be careful to not end up there

Shadow Wizard

@Quill lol, at least you know what FF it's from? :D

Magisch

@ShadowWizard wont let me

Quill

@ShadowWizard .... nope

Bart

1:27 PM

The final one

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch not now, when you realized the "someone had already dealt with the problem" part. :)

@Quill OK, so take a pic and I'll tell you. Or @Derpy. ;)

Magisch

@ShadowWizard Hindsight is 20/20

Shadow Wizard

@Bart no such thing. There's always a new Final Fantasy game... :P

@Magisch hmm? Think I lost you now... :/

Bart

@ShadowWizard sounds like my documents. "importantdocument_final.doc" ... "importantdocument_finalcorrected.doc" "importantdocument_finalcorrectedv2.doc"

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Shadow Wizard

Anyway, my favorite is FF8. Simple, good story, not too easy...

Quill

1:29 PM

@ShadowWizard it's in the wash already.... ;-;

Shadow Wizard

@Bart lol! Poor @Bart

@Quill so write a note to do that tomorrow.... :D

(pic of clean socks is always better anyway ;))

Quill

my project is finally ready for release :D

after way too long in development, it's ready for the vicious and condescending eyes of users

user315433

You should hope there'll be vicious and condescending eyes of users...

user315433

because most projects don't have those

Quill

I suppose a lack of eyes is worse

Bart

2:10 PM

Anyone here familiar with Code Review SE? Would this fit? stackoverflow.com/questions/38569595/…

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Derpy

@Quill Data accepted: Quill loves socks. Quill has lots of socks.

Performing SPARQL(e) inference...

Quill is Minty.

Quill

@Bart I am familiar with CR

Easy on-topic guide:

Is it A) working code and B) not hypothetical or incomplete in any way?

Oded

@Magisch ho. Was interviewing someone - couldn't chat when you pinged me.

Bart

@Quill seems it's fine on both those points?

@Oded did you make them cry? Were you the bad cop?

Oded

2:19 PM

I am always the bad cop.

And crying isn't enough.

Quill

What's worse than crying, hmm...... did you force them to write Java?

Bart

PHP

Quill

@Bart looks alright, no objections in the chatroom

Bart

Ok, I'll recommend that then. Because I don't think it's a fit for SO.

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Quill

2:22 PM

Asking for a coding pattern probably isn't the best fit for Code Review, it would also probably work on Programmers if the majority of the code was taken out

Bart

Hmm, someone already recommended it

Oded

@Quill Haskell

Quill

Next time get Joel in the interview room/chat and then ask them to answer Excel questions

Oded

Man, you sure have a sadistic and inhuman side to you.

Some lines, even I won't cross.

Bart

But ... but ... if they do well you can say "You certainly ... excelled" and then put on your sunglasses.

Oded

2:30 PM

Word

user202362

Excel ... could be worse, like Excel VBA :p

user315433

Should a suggested edit be accepted if all it does is replace "enter image description here" with an actual image description?

Oded

I'd like to see something more substantive to an edit.

Quill

@Oded Hire only the best, right?

Oded

@Quill I think we dropped that line... it is elitist and off putting to many. Not the way to build a diverse team.

We have high standards. And our interview process is difficult to get through.

user202362

2:35 PM

Building a diverse team? like 'we are hiring you because you are a dumb overweight seal, but we don't have one of your kind, so welcome on board'

Quill

trying to hire only the best is some sort of fallacy anyway

let's just pull anders hejlsberg and dan abramov and jon skeet and every other living legend away from the amazing work they're doing for our shitty little crud startup that has .io in the title

Shadow Wizard

@Oded so who is the good cop?

user202362

if you are the cops, who are the criminals?

Quill

speaking of jobs, it's time to look for a new one, I think I still have a few favourited on careers

Oded

@ShadowWizard there is no good cop.

Quill

2:45 PM

in The 2nd Monitor on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 15 secs ago, by Trojan404

If we flirt with mods, it's not technically flirting. It's attempting seduction :P

no context needed

Oded

@Telkitty we would hire a dumb overweight seal if they could do they job. Not because we don't have one.

Bart

@Oded so you're saying I still have a chance?

Oded

@Bart sure. We don't have a floating pair of glasses working for us yet.

Quill

Isn't it going to clash with the floating head?

Oded

Might add clarity.

Put things into focus.

Quill

2:47 PM

@Telkitty diversity is not so much about selectively choosing which pieces support the tower as much as it is being open to every kind of piece having their own place

lol reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/comments/4uhtpq/…

user202362

@Oded I like that you have faith in a dumb overweight seal and think it could do the job :')

user202362

Oded

@Telkitty if the seal can pass our interview process, the seal can get a job.

user202362

I always thought mermaids were seals seen by people who bad eye sights

Quill

heh, mobile site design took 5 minutes... thanks SASS

Shadow Wizard

2:59 PM

@Oded oh my. Will keep that in mind! :D

Bart

@Telkitty apparently it was manatees who were confused for mermaids

Quill

@Telkitty well if that unicorn could pass the interview, a seal sounds just as good

They're one of the best animals at job interviews.... they always seal the deal

Portal

All unicorns can pass SE's interview. No exception.

Shadow Wizard

@Portal what about Null unicorns?

user202362

BTW donkey meat is delicious ... oh wait, why am I saying this ...

Portal

3:02 PM

NullPointerException

Quill

@Telkitty crocodile meat is really good

user202362

test somewhat just like fish ...

Shadow Wizard

@Portal you surely meant NullUnicornException? ;)

lol github.com/kamsar/Unicorn/blob/master/src/Unicorn/Logging/…

@Quill yeah, it's a meat that eats your own meat.

Quill

when I got a diamond, I really didn't anticipate that I'd mostly be using it to try and kick some common sense into noisy kids in chat

there's too many bored teenagers on the internet

Bart

3:17 PM

@Quill wait, you get to kick teenagers? Where can I sign up for this diamond stuff?

Quill

Not physically, jeez

Try hosting a Garry's Mod server... it'll be a million times worse

Bart

user315433

I'd rather have them reading a math book, but failing that, keeping bored teenagers on the internet isn't so bad.

Bart

@Quill I'm recently having wonderful exchanges with young whippersnappers in Overwatch's Competitive play.

A lot of them seem to know my mom

Quill

PokeMongoDB - where you walk around and try to find the data that your database lost

Tweeted by BrentO on July 25, 2016 at 2:47 PM

Bart

3:33 PM

:D

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bjb568

Night!

user202362

3:49 PM

laterZzz, I am off to soon Zzzz

user202362

@SmokeDetector I didn't know that, I guess you learn new things every now and then by staying in the traven :p

Bart

Night @Telkitty

And night @bjb568

user202362

:D

Magisch

@Oded Is your interview process to poke people with sharp sticks? Your job site says you'd never do that!

Oded

@Magisch we promise not to poke any employees with sharp sticks. Poking interviewees as part of the interview shows that why that's such a good thing!

Magisch

3:59 PM

what position did you interview for? (or is that confidential information?)

xkcdBot

Today's xkcd comic (Snapchat):

For obvious reasons, the prize is awarded at a different time of year from the others, while it's still fresh in the committee's memory.

Oded

@Magisch one of the full stack web developer ones.

Magisch

ahh

Oded

To be clear - I was giving the interview ;)

Magisch

Obviously

:D

I would totally apply at stack except I have next to no applicable skills for a full stack web dev

:D

Andy

4:04 PM

@Magisch You'll be pleased to know that their rejection email is really polite.

Magisch

at least they send one to begin with

Andy

Which is also a positive

Magisch

jokes aside, I don't apply to jobs I don't know that I have a very good chance to get

I've written a grand total of 3 applications to date, got 3 interviews and 3 offers.

user315433

4:33 PM

5th inning of baseball game, umpire declares a new rule: the defending team can also score, if their outfielder solves a sudoku during a half-inning. This certainly makes the game more inclusive, now people who are good at sudoku will be able to contribute too.

user315433

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A: Don't give me reputation points for making an edit to a Documentation topic

Back when Documentation was first announced, Kevin wrote: We intend for participation in the Documentation parts of Stack Overflow to be about as rewarding, in terms of reputation, as asking and answering is in the Q&A parts. Before last Thursday, we didn't have a good way to test the reput...

Magisch

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs I actually agree with Jon's answer

reputation is about trust, its not a competition unless you make it one

user315433

4:51 PM

Perhaps I don't trust docs copy-pasters.

Shog9

"Fairness" and "trust" aside, there's a certain utility to attaching reputation to votes on edits: now I get notified when someone up-votes something I touched, which is nice. I miss seeing a corresponding notification for downvotes though; if the voter doesn't comment, I don't find out that my edit was problematic.

user315433

I don't miss not being notified about the votes on 6,488 posts I edited on Math.SE...

Magisch

I'm just happy I can earn reputation with what I'm good at: Nitpicking things

@Oded Was part of the interview process to formulate a decent and well researched question on SO? :D

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