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12:00 AM

I didn't know you could click to highlight, that's interesting

Ok, opinion needed. Edits to questions by the OP are subject to review now. An OP makes an edit that should have been a comment. Yay, nay?

drachenstern

I don't understand.

Are you saying that they are subject to review or are you asking if they should be?

and what about the commentary?

Michael Petrotta

I'm saying they are subject to review, and I don't have an issue with that.
Let's say you run across a pending edit to a question, and the edit was made by the questions's original asker. The edit is questionable, in that it really should have been made as a comment to the question, rather than added to the question itself.

ChrisF

@MichaelPetrotta You can make edits to your own posts without having to go through review regardless of your rep. It has always been this way.

Michael Petrotta

@ChrisF: not true now, apparently.

drachenstern

12:06 AM

@ChrisF I would imagine they would've changed that, but it may have been unintentional

ChrisF

@MichaelPetrotta Eh - so if you've got less than 2K rep you can't edit your own posts?

That must be a bug

Yi Jiang

@MichaelPetrotta Nope, the only reason that might happen if they accidentally deleted the cookie that holds their account data

Michael Petrotta

I don't know what triggered this (now difficult-to-find) instance. I remember that the OP had 1 rep, and may have been unregistered. You're right that the OP may have made the edit with a different account, for the reason you mention.

drachenstern

@YiJiang if they're using Chrome/supports-local-storage does it still rely on a cookie?

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern Think so, what difference would it make any way?

Tim Stone

12:08 AM

What's even worse is when other people try and edit in comments:

5

Q: Suggested edits - comment smuggling

Phenomenon: A low rep user uses suggested edit to add a comment to an answer\question. Is anyone else seeing this? Example: http://stackoverflow.com/edit-suggestions/1832

Yi Jiang

Both can be cleared just as easily

drachenstern

@YiJiang localstorage doesn't get deleted like cookies do does it?

ChrisF

Just tried this on Wordpress where I've only got 103 rep & I could edit my own questions without problem.

Tim Stone

But anyway, if the edit is like a reply to someone in the comments, I'd reject it.

To answer your actual question, @MichaelPetrotta

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern It can be, Firefox for instance let's you clear localStorage data in the same panel that let's you clear cookies

Tim Stone

12:09 AM

If it adds more information in comment-like form...perhaps allow it anyway, then edit the question to clean it up.

drachenstern

@YiJiang oh yeah, that's true

forgot about that

@TimStone I support this

Yi Jiang

@TimStone Hmmm, how did Chibacity's account got deleted?

Tim Stone

@YiJiang I was curious about that too, seems to be happening relatively frequently.

Several people suddenly disappeared, heh.

Yi Jiang

stackoverflow.com/users/189516/chibacity?tab=accounts

drachenstern

chibacity, London

11.1k 1 8 28

c# .net wpf multithreading asp.net mvvm visual-studio

hmmm

Tim Stone

12:14 AM

I'm going to assume that it's related to this post:

4

Q: Thoughts on Censorship

I recently saw a post where the OP was bemoaning the fact that it can be difficult to get a good look-in with answers in tags where there are users that are fast (FGITW), really on the button, and have high reps. Basically tags where a few users are all over them. Fair enough point for discussion...

discussion questions editing

Michael Petrotta

Oh yeah, I remember that. Chibacity was getting awful tetchy in there, now deleted.

Aiden Bell

@TimStone sounds like some gangster film

drachenstern

@MichaelPetrotta surely he didn't delete his account just on account of that!

Michael Petrotta

People have done more for less.

But I certainly don't know.

Tim Stone

@AidenBell It'll be the sequel of the original SO movie.

ChrisF

12:17 AM

You can't delete your own account - you have to ask the mods to do it for you

Tim Stone

@MichaelPetrotta Yeah, it just seems most likely to me.

drachenstern

Ooookay ... watching TruTV and Most Dangerous drivers .... wow

If you guys want something to watch that'll make you raise your eyebrows repeatedly, that is the channel to be watching

Michael Petrotta

That stuff will rot your brain... but I love it too

drachenstern

Just watched a truck skid across a median and into a tractor trailer due to ice, then get out and walk away due to his airbags working

Tim Stone

Did you see the video the other week of the people driving in Canada who had to swerve out of the way of this tractor trailer that slammed through the median coming in the opposite direction?

badp

12:20 AM

coboloncogs.org

Tim Stone

Also, woah:

Michael Petrotta

@Tim: what, like that's never happened to you?

drachenstern

@TimStone no, was it a viral on youtube or on something like that show I'm talking about

Tim Stone

@MichaelPetrotta Nah, in my case the car just rolled over three and a half times.

@drachenstern I saw it on MSNBC, lemme see if I can find it again.

drachenstern

I thought my jacknifing with a uhaul behind me and s-zagging three full times without flipping or rolling was bad enough

Tim Stone

12:23 AM

@TimStone (This was a long time ago, was travelling to my grandparents with my mom and sister, she hit black ice and we went into the ditch in the middle of the highway...Good thing for the snow, heh)

Michael Petrotta

Ok, lessee. Coming back from skiing when I was a kid, we skid into some boulders and I hit the seat in front of me and rip my top braces off my teeth

Aiden Bell

Tim Stone

@MichaelPetrotta Holy crap, that sounds like it might have hurt a bit.. O_o

@AidenBell Hahah

Aiden Bell

@TimStone - there you gone, laugh-at-one-get-one-free

Tim Stone

@AidenBell They were probably more productive because they didn't have Eclipse ;)

Aiden Bell

12:27 AM

True, well, at least they didn't require 20Gb of RAM just to edit text

Michael Petrotta

or chat.

2

Aiden Bell

starred

IRC over Teletype

lol

Too much?

Michael Petrotta

blasphemy.

Aiden Bell

Thought as much

Tim Stone

@drachenstern God, MSNBC's search sucks. Luckily Google was nicer to me: telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/8277147/…

badp

12:34 AM

wait a second

Tim Stone

@AidenBell Aw, I missed it.

badp

my_nice_struct foo(){
  my_nice_struct bar;
  //initialize bar
  return bar;
} //this is valid C right? right?

Aiden Bell

I would have watched that link, but something was offensive about it

ChrisF

adblock is your friend

Michael Petrotta

Happy smiling people!

Tim Stone

12:37 AM

@badp my_nice_struct is a a typedef-ed struct?

badp

@TimStone yes

Aiden Bell

@TimStone - telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/7711234/…

that one is better

Tim Stone

@badp Looks alright to me then, but I'm no C programmer either.

badp

@TimStone oh, okay, because one post on /. mentioned that passing pointers to automatic variables gives undefined behaviour

Michael Petrotta

Can only watch so many of those kinds of videos

Tim Stone

12:39 AM

@AidenBell ...Wow, that's pretty crazy. :/

And now, dinner.

Michael Petrotta

Saw one that captured a guy dying. That's a bit much.

Aiden Bell

@badp - sorry, that is valid C

Missed you there

badp

yaaay

I guess I'm still confused by how arrays and structs arguments are passed in C

Aiden Bell

@badp - pointers my friend

badp

I keep thinking, if I just name them I get their address, so I must be passing their address

Michael Petrotta

12:44 AM

With no more gen2 i7 systems for sale, I choose to feel proud to have one running.

badp

@AidenBell then that code wouldn't work, because I'd be returning a pointer to a freed struct

Aiden Bell

@badp - no that code is fine, I was making an unrelated point about arrays

badp

@AidenBell er, so if instead of a struct I had an array...

Aiden Bell

You would return a pointer to an array in reality

badp

it'd still be valid though

or wouldn't it?

Aiden Bell

12:47 AM

In C, if it compiles and doesn't segfault, it's valid :P

You can return arrays and pointers and structs ... so yes

badp

typedef char t_block[BLOCK_SIZE];
t_block get_copy(t_block data){
    t_block output;
    memcpy(data, output, BLOCK_SIZE);
    return output;
}

Aiden Bell

Yes, that is fine

badp

phew

The Renamed Exception

Good evening everyone

Moshe

@TheRenamedException - Good Evening.

The Renamed Exception

12:49 AM

How are you @Moshe?

badp

@TheRenamedException 'ning

Moshe

@The great. I'm on Aim now. I have somewhere to be shortly ;-)

The Renamed Exception

@badp How are things on your side of the pond? :-)

badp

@TheRenamedException nothing earth-shattering

Aiden Bell

Nite all, @badp good luck with the C, gimme a shout if you need anything

badp

12:51 AM

@AidenBell Thanks, will do

The Renamed Exception

@Moshe yeah, good luck! :-D

Aiden Bell

@TimStone - this was the upload you missed that I removed as being "too much"

Moshe

@TheRenamedException Thanks!

The Renamed Exception

@AidenBell LOL that's great. Have a good night

Aiden Bell

Later @TheRenamedException

Michael Mrozek

1:07 AM

Interesting decision by my ice maker:

I've always felt my ice cubes could benefit from hooks

drachenstern

@TimStone holy crap

Michael Petrotta

I would like spherical ice "cubes". I like my drinks cold, but not staggeringly cold, and I think the minimal surface area presented by spheres would reduce the heat transfer.

large, too

Tim Stone

@MichaelMrozek So they can both numb and cause pain at the same time.

drachenstern

@TheRenamedException HEY JOSH !!! /me waves !!! ;)

Michael Petrotta

@Tim: you've called me with the name of *The Michael who must not be named*.
YOU'VE MADE AN ENEMY TODAY

Yi Jiang

1:16 AM

Two features I'm working on for the elections page, hrm... the ability to see stats from old election results and to add any user on the site to the list of candidates for comparison

Tim Stone

@MichaelPetrotta Wait, what? :P

Michael Petrotta

@Tim: um, nevermind. I can't read. You're clearly responding to @MichaelMrozek.

when I thought you were responding to me, with his name.

Tim Stone

Indeed. I was going to reply to you saying that they make things for round ice somewhere, but I thought maybe you already knew.

Michael Petrotta

I'm behind the curve on major-appliance technology.

Yi Jiang

Tell me, does the /election page really show all previous elections or just the most recent one

Because I'm pretty sure SO has had more than one election before, using the same system, hmmm

Michael Mrozek

1:21 AM

@YiJiang I assume it's supposed to show all of them, but there aren't any sites that have more than one

Tim Stone

@YiJiang The system is brand new?

Michael Mrozek

This is the first time SO has used this system, they just finished coding it in the last few month

Math was the first time it was ever used, on 2 Dec

Yi Jiang

Hmm? So how were elections conducted before?

Michael Mrozek

It was done via meta posts a few times, and there was at least one throwaway solution that used a special SO page, but that was a long time ago

Here's one of the old nomination threads:

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Q: Nominations: New Stack Overflow Moderator

blog.stackoverflow: Stack Overflow 2010 Moderator Election Begins Based on the traffic volume, it's crazy that we have so few Stack Overflow community moderators relative to the site's size and traffic. Numbers in parens, below, are the 1 month visitors from Google Analytics: meta (74k) Jo...

discussion moderators moderator-nomination moderator-election

The link to the throwaway page is available from a blog post, but it's broken now obviously

drachenstern

@YiJiang since this one is at /election/1 I would presume there are defaults and the same basic interface as all the others

The Renamed Exception

1:30 AM

@drachenstern Hey Cole!

How goes?

drachenstern

Today pretty damned good

The Renamed Exception

That avatar dances even worse than I do, LOL

is he dancing or being stung by bees?

drachenstern

I would like to think he's swimming in mud and we're overhead looking down

The Renamed Exception

LOL

badp

@TheRenamedException He didn't use jQuery. Now he's punching hisself in the face.

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The Renamed Exception

1:35 AM

@badp HAHA

in Rename TheRenamedException, 1 min ago, by Pekka

OutOfStarsException

YES!!!!!!

drachenstern

Turn on Nancy Grace on Headline News if you got the channel

The Renamed Exception

@drachenstern I REFUSE TO LISTEN TO THAT B....

drachenstern

Have ya'll heard this story? The mom that shot her kids for being "mouthy"?

Tim Stone

Yeah

The Renamed Exception

Yes

drachenstern

1:37 AM

holy shit, what is wrong with people?

The Renamed Exception

Words do not describe... >:o

Tim Stone

Good question :/

The Renamed Exception

@drachenstern something major, apparently

drachenstern

@TheRenamedException watching this show I see why you say that

The Renamed Exception

@drachenstern she's evil

drachenstern

1:39 AM

Ok, she doesn't want to watch/listen-to that show, so we're on to other topics ... maybe The Hulk on FX?

or should I goto Bones on local channels?

Or NCIS on two channels?

so many choices for brain rotting, so little overall desire

I could be working on my query seeing if I can dream up a new way to make it work

The Renamed Exception

So far the top choice for my new name is:

in Rename TheRenamedException, yesterday, by Nyuszika7H

rchernsException

drachenstern

lol, yikes

Michael Petrotta

ImpulseControlException

The Renamed Exception

@MichaelPetrotta ROFLMAO

I will use that one on my own!

Michael Petrotta

glad you like

Yi Jiang

1:55 AM

in Rename TheRenamedException, 12 secs ago, by Yi Jiang

@TheRenamedException 16 stars, not too hard, I'll pop in to some other rooms and ask them to star some of these ;)

Go, do your civic duty, and star your favourite exception name!

Chris Jester-Young

HissyFitException. As in, throw HissyFitException(); (in C++) or throw new HissyFitException(); (Java/C#).

The Renamed Exception

2 days ago, by Zypher

ok if a renamed suggestions gets 16 stars i'll think about it

@ChrisJester-Young chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/349/…

Ok I'm AFK for a bit, BBL!

drachenstern

@TheRenamedException ciao

Moshe

2:12 AM

@The there?

Chris Jester-Young

iotop is the ultimate voyeur's tool in Linux. That is all.

drachenstern

lol

Rebecca Chernoff

2:39 AM

Hmm. I have found documentation that suggests I can use 3 external monitors + laptop display with this docking station / laptop combo.

Michael Petrotta

I'm pretty sure that's wrong.

Your desk isn't nearly big enough.

Rebecca Chernoff

That is incorrect. I have plenty of desk space now. (:

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff what laptop/dock?

So now that the election is over do we still need the election page pinned in here? Just out of curiousity ...

Rebecca Chernoff

Thinkpads.

We're starting a new round of 3 elections each Monday until we're caught up with graduations.

drachenstern

Ooooh

I forgot

Tim Stone

2:47 AM

Hmmm...

takes a break from shaking a fist at Chrome to brb

Michael Petrotta

I'm so, so sorry.

►

drachenstern

That's just ... odd, and highly unexpected

Michael Petrotta

It's good advice, though. I don't feel I got the full value out of my child clown.

Moshe

Filming a concert now without adequate equipment.

Chris Jester-Young

@RebeccaChernoff: (In case you're monitoring this more than #stackoverflow.) Can you migrate this post to CodeGolf.SE, please? Much thanks.

1

Q: Code Golf: Robot Finds Kitten

The challenge The shortest code by character count to help Robot find kitten in the fewest steps possible. Golfers, this is a time of crisis - Kitten gone missing and it's Robot's job to find it! Robot needs to reach Kitten in the shortest path possible. However, in Robot's way, there are a lot...

language-agnostic code-golf rosetta-stone

Robert Harvey has migrated the question now, so no worries. :-)

Earlz

3:10 AM

@Chris since when is there a codegolf.se!?

Chris Jester-Young

@Earlz Since 9 days ago.

Earlz

What is the world coming to? sigh

drachenstern

@Earlz that question has been asked repeatedly lately ... so apparently 12/21/2012

Earlz

stackoverflow.com/posts/4849122/revisions sigh. Seriously? A DMCA notice on SO?

Kragen

@Earlz lol

Chris Jester-Young

3:24 AM

@Earlz Duh. The poster doesn't realise that once you license something, it can't be rescinded?

Yi Jiang

Seems illogical. Hmmm... Pekka posted a question on Meta

1

Q: Does the CC-Wiki license allow the licensor to withdraw their content at will?

Hans Passant quotes from the CC-Wiki license: I think there's a problem here. The full text of the Creative Commons License under which SOIS publishes your answer has this clause in section 7b, Termination: Subject to the above terms and conditions, the license granted here ...

discussion legal

drachenstern

Apparently he's been running down the list deleting them all ...

Chris Jester-Young

@drachenstern His account will probably just be locked, and all the (non-abusive) content restored.

drachenstern

@ChrisJesterYoung that's actually what's occurring right now

Chris Jester-Young

I am not a lawyer, but, as far as I know, license grants, especially using an open-source licence like CC-Wiki, cannot be rescinded.

Yi Jiang

3:27 AM

Well, at least this gives the new mods something to do...

Chris Jester-Young

And the text quoted in that MSO question seems to support that.

Again, IANAL.

Kragen

Yeah, I think the "stop distributing the work" refers to their right to be able to remove the content from their own website, not the right to force the content from being removed from other sites.

drachenstern

@Kragen yes

HA! in b4 @TimStone :D

Tim Stone

Yeah, yeah, I saw. :P

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern Huh?

Chris Jester-Young

3:32 AM

@YiJiang It means @drachenstern got his word in here before @TimStone did.

drachenstern

@YiJiang we both posted within about 90 seconds of each other ;)

Yi Jiang

Oh, on that question

Tim Stone

3:49 AM

Hmm, now that user posted a question on Meta (and a non-answer badgering Robert Harvey).

Chris Jester-Young

@TimStone O_o

drachenstern

linky

Michael Mrozek

@drachenstern It's brand new, it's not exactly hard to find

drachenstern

I see that

Tim Stone

Hah, I think he just down voted my answer to the CC License question (someone did, at any rate).

Chris Jester-Young

4:00 AM

@TimStone They fail.

Michael Mrozek

@TimStone You should probably fly into a homicidal rage and vandalize all your meta posts

2

drachenstern

interesting, wonder if mine did too, brb

I did not (at least yet)

Tim Stone

Yeah, I checked ;)

@MichaelMrozek RAH!

drachenstern

@MichaelMrozek I wish I could upvote chat posts sometimes ;)

Michael Mrozek

@TimStone Often I scream "RAH" as I vandalize SO posts

Tim Stone

4:02 AM

I want to go find some Buddhist monks and make them accept the CC license.

All your sand paintings are belong to us (under cc-wiki with attribution required).

drachenstern

@MichaelMrozek what does the Egyptian Sun God have to do with vandalization?

Michael Mrozek

He fuels my rage

Tim Stone

BURNINATION requires vast amounts of fire.

3

drachenstern

Good answers

Does this have merit?

Tim Stone

O_o

drachenstern

4:06 AM

1

Q: Text on the markdown help page is too large

I might be a bit bold to tag this as a bug, but I'm pretty sure this is one. Why is the text on the markdown help pages (example) larger than the text everywhere else? This includes the "notification bar" at the top — it, too, is larger than it is anywhere else.

bug style

Tim Stone

gets out his connect the dots marker

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern Is it? I never noticed it, hmmm

drachenstern

Which dots?

@YiJiang It seems to be accurate ... I never noticed either

Tim Stone

He's now compared him not being allowed to vandalize licenced work to rape... :/

I'm trying to see how he got there. >_>

@drachenstern I've honestly never seen that page before..

drachenstern

1

Q: Can bounties be awarded multiple times by the same person on the same question ?

Is there any restriction to prevent multiple bounties ( not simultaneously) being awarded to different answers on the same question ? i.e., on a question I had asked - I want to set multiple bounties since I've received 2 awesome answers. Can I set award a bounty on answer A first, and then set...

support bounty

I'm surprised @Sathya doesn't know which means it is likely an uncovered topic

Yi Jiang

4:09 AM

@drachenstern Definitely true, I have stuck multiple bounties on one of my Meta questions before

drachenstern

0

Q: Adding several bounties

Isn't it possible to add several bounties (to different questions)? I added a bounty to a question yesterday, and for reason, I can't add a bounty to another today...

support bounty

Tim Stone

@YiJiang All awarded too?

drachenstern

So you can only have one active, but you can award more than one

Yi Jiang

@TimStone Erhm... no

Tim Stone

Ah, then that's proof enough though.

I thought that was the case, but wanted to make sure, heh.

Rebecca Chernoff

4:19 AM

> ThinkPad systems with NVIDIA Optimus technology: Up to three monitors can be attached and ThinkPad display is enabled (ThinkPad display is active).

drachenstern

@YiJiang I used your image in the answer to Sathya's question

He says thanks

mootinator

Drat, I managed to break my 100+ day SO visiting streak by not logging in earlier.

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern Sure

drachenstern

@mootinator I did that around christmas

Rebecca Chernoff

> This graphics card supports up to two displays

calls shenanigans

drachenstern

4:20 AM

@RebeccaChernoff is this via @Nvidia?

mootinator

:O

Time to enter a 24 hour marathon race on Gran Turismo 5.

My eyes will "thank" me later.

Tim Stone

@mootinator :D

Rebecca Chernoff

Well I'm looking at the nvidia control panel q:

Which kinda leaves the only possibility that it isn't optimus hehe

drachenstern

Indeed. Clarification with new information. I guess you're still limited to two then :\

So are you gonna do what Tim does (IIRC) and what I'm considering doing?

something like this sewelldirect.com/… is what I'm thinking of doing

Rebecca Chernoff

I'm still not convinced. nvidia.com/object/notebook-nvs.html

drachenstern

4:28 AM

What does device manager say?

Rebecca Chernoff

mootinator

Apparently '17' is not a valid font weight.

drachenstern

:\ tomshardware.com/forum/…

mootinator

I'm not sure why I agreed to do this :/

drachenstern

it should be if you're talking HTML/CSS

mootinator

4:32 AM

An excel library.

Rebecca Chernoff

@drachenstern www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/…

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff gah, I want that!

Rebecca Chernoff

me too >_<

lol

drachenstern

lol

Rebecca Chernoff

Of course, my monitors are all different sizes

but that's a minor issue (;

drachenstern

4:36 AM

Yeah, so are mine, so that's kinda ...

exactly

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff Make Jeff buy you one. Or five

drachenstern

Is there an online spreadsheet solution I can paste tabular data into like I do with Excel and it gets converted into spreadsheet cells?

mootinator

Google docs doesn't do that?

drachenstern

I guess I'll need to download OO.o and see what I can finagle with that

idk, I haven't tried it

figured I would ask first

mootinator

It does.

drachenstern

4:40 AM

It does

haha, thanks

Rebecca Chernoff

Hmm. Maybe I should poke around in bios.

drachenstern

I just wonder from the three skus if you can do it with any but the top sku

I couldn't tell from their website.

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff When you figure out your monitor business, feel free to figure out where in the code chat does

.html() .html() .attr() .attr() .attr() .attr() .attr() .attr() .attr() .attr() .attr() .empty() .append() .attr() .empty() .append() .html() .html() .empty() .append() .html() .html() .attr()

. It's like the Konami code of jQuery.

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drachenstern

@TimStone are you trying to figure out where that occurs or why?

Tim Stone

Where, hahah.

They aren't chained though, the calls just happen to happen in that order.

But it's super far down the call list to use the debugger.

drachenstern

4:45 AM

in her code or the SE code?

Tim Stone

It's in the main chat code.

(somewhere)

Well, it could be inside of jQuery too, I really don't know. It isn't in the userscript.

Michael Mrozek

@TimStone Yet

drachenstern

> http://or.sstatic.net/chat/Js/master-chat.js this file?

Tim Stone

Yeah

drachenstern

what are you researching?

Tim Stone

4:47 AM

Actually, never mind. I made a mistake in making sure it's not in the userscript, whoops.

drachenstern

the userscript doesn't call "empty"

Tim Stone

Yeah, but it could have called jQuery code that called empty internally.

drachenstern

true

Tim Stone

But yeah, it's nothing in the userscript.

Actually lawlz, I guess I do have the stack trace.

drachenstern

but .empty( only occurs four times in jquery.min.js and five times in the master-chat.js

Tim Stone

4:49 AM

Let's see if I can match those calls to the call tree..

Rebecca Chernoff

What am I looking for?

Michael Mrozek

@RebeccaChernoff A good listener?

drachenstern

either the ellipsis function or the $('#add-user-search-result') I'm guessing....

or something to do with $('#tabcomplete')

Rebecca Chernoff

@MichaelMrozek |:

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Basically livequery bails on certain calls to certain intercepted jQuery functions, and I'm trying to narrow down the working example.

drachenstern

4:53 AM

Oh, so it's probably happening in jQuery

Tim Stone

Chrome inexplicably takes all of the variables from the previous scope and points them at DOMWindow when this happens O_o

drachenstern

It is probably on an exception

mootinator

This is going to be a pain in the buttocks.

At least the formulas work :/

drachenstern

Three of the four .empty( in the minified source seem to happen on exception catches

Tim Stone

But like the blockquote bug, this is also a Heisenbug...any attempt to catch the exception or run the debugger through the code causes a long enough of a delay to prevent the method from failing. >_>

mootinator

4:56 AM

is making a library to render editable reports in Excel. *sigh*

Tim Stone

@mootinator Noooo, don't do it!

Excel..so...much...evil

mootinator

I knooow.

Tim Stone

I have a Java class that uses Apache POI to write out an Excel report. 1284 lines of code, ick.

Chris Jester-Young

@TimStone This is why you do not write straight Java code. I have code that uses POI too, but it's written in JRuby.

Much much much more succinct.

mootinator

This is my ingenious code for the day:

ws.Cells[i, lastcolumn].Formula = String.Format("=" + totalFormula, headers.Select((x, j) => ws.Cells.GetSubrangeAbsolute(i, column + j, i, column + j)).ToArray());

Rebecca Chernoff

4:59 AM

is still unsure if this was a serious help with the codez request or not

Chris Jester-Young

That's not Ruby! Fail. :-P

drachenstern

Hmmm, 144 today on MSO ... I might get mortarboard on MSO before getting mortarboard on SO :\

mootinator

Since my first impulse is to remove all the spaces, I should probably spend less time on codegolf.se

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