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12:18 AM

> Do we leave problems for the next dev at Stack Overflow? Yep. @marcgravell just changed the epoch to save bits…adding a time bomb in ~150yr. -- Nick Craver at 5:11 PM - 6 Apr 2016 via Twitter

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A: What types of subjective questions do we want?

First read Good Subjective, Bad Subjective. Beyond that discussion, the reason you typically want to avoid certain types of questions (in this type of Q&A format, at least) is that some questions simply cannot be answered authoritatively and definitively in the space of a post — keep those two w...

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atom.io was down

user315433

12:28 AM

I'm not optimistic about the prospects of LL. Bad subjective, too broad, advice-column type questions.

Because people slammed their fingers on ask question in a hungry bid for rep before considering scope

I went to Meta first ;)

in Language Learning on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 hours ago, by HDE 226868

I'm not saying we should all stop asking questions, but if you have five or six or seven or more questions, it might be worth spreading them out.

in Language Learning on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 hours ago, by HDE 226868

We will see a drop by this time tomorrow, I think. That lower level will be maintained throughout the duration of private beta - I've seen it happen a few times already, and it's bad - and things will get a bit boring.

1:12 AM

@Marshmallow? lol

user315433

Finally got updated, just an hour ago.

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Does that always happen for long usernames?

:( CakePHP also ends up with 3x Leave Closed (but 2x Reopen!): stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/11920566.

So... score for the day: 3 questions reopened, 3 remained closed. None of the ones reopened were from the queue.

According to Shog's stats some questions actually are reopened from the queue. Maybe those are the rare unicorns...

user202362

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user202362

Cute little bastard. I bet given chance, this cute little fluff is going to come over and steal all your food. I <3 arctic fox

1:36 AM

@Telkitty your new picture is very disturbing

user202362

good, good :P

2:37 AM

Put this into a Javascript console: Array(16).join("wat" - 1) + " Batman!";

user202362

delete this; //if you like gamble and programming at the same time, especially in C++

@JamesENL I knew exactly what that would do :p

Yay JS!

feature-request JS interpreter in one of the bots

2:56 AM

bjbotling had that.

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/…

And look how well that turned out...

Speaking of @bjb568: what are your thoughts on stackoverflow.com/questions/33742114/…?

I'd already DV'd it.

apparently CV'd it too

Obviously. But why?

I don't remember. But it looks like a meh question which certainly doesn't need more answers.

There's an SE for meth questions?

3:09 AM

Currently you're on that site...

(actually, bjb is)

@bjb568 And what does that have to do with closing?

user315433

> Questions without a clear problem statement are not useful to other readers. -- in a few months, 32884 views, and anonymous feedback is 134 up, 15 down.

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When I CV'd it, it looked like this.

@bjb568 You sure it didn't look like stackoverflow.com/revisions/33742114/2?

@tchrist Yeah, I think it’s called DevDoodle. Unbranded ’cause they don’t want to deal with the PR nightmare if it goes south.

In any case, what are your thoughts on it in its present state?

stae?

3:10 AM

@AlexisKing shots fired

@hichris123 probably was rev 1

@hichris123 I don't care or vote anymore.

> STAE: Save the Asian Elephants

@AlexisKing I know they talk about crack programmers there, but I never thought of the cracker problem.

@bjb568 I'm asking you for your opinion on a question. And maybe a reopen vote.

Jeffrey Bosboom

Is there a userscript that shows the anonymous feedback, or how else are you figuring it out?

3:12 AM

@bjb568 Stop doing cracklemethocorn.

lol why did you protect a closed question @tchrist?

@hichris123 moi?

Cuz of the deleted crap.

@hichris123 Meh, indifferent.

And that you guys are trying to reöpen it to that.

@tchrist ah. But without reopening, it doesn't make a difference, does it? ;)

3:13 AM

Insurance in the bank.

@tchrist Trying, yes. Failing, yeah.

An Ah ain't givin' noh hicrishes any uh me ray-oh-pen vohts.

user315433

@JeffreyBosboom SEDE, data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/73917/…

@bjb568 what even is... you sure you aren't on that site tchrist mentioned?

2 hours ago, by hichris123

So... score for the day: 3 questions reopened, 3 remained closed. None of the ones reopened were from the queue.

And two of those reopened were by a certain CM.

user315433

FR: "too broad" close votes invisibly converted to downvotes.

3:16 AM

Hey, if you don't like that question, there's a CakePHP one: stackoverflow.com/questions/4163711/….

@Marshmallow Some of the time. But when the question is just 'build me an app' or 'Do my homework'...

user315433

Well, nobody is going to build them an app anyway... so it gets to -N score, and dies quietly.

I think I scared off @tchrist.

I’m porting geese.

user315433

Especially if the proposal to delete some of the answered non-closed questions gets implemented.

@Marshmallow In 30 days... but a lot of those questions surprisingly get a hint answer or two.

Not too surprising though since FGITW...

user315433

3:19 AM

That's why ^^^

Jeffrey Bosboom

@Marshmallow Which one is that?

@tchrist You're... what?

user315433

The one we keep linking to every month, asking Shog when it's going to happen. :)

@Marshmallow I think it's time for @Shog9's weekly reminder about that proposal.

user315433

I suggest keeping it on monthly schedule, though.

3:19 AM

Maybe I should start sending puns to Shog... :P

@Marshmallow I think my last reminder was about 2 weeks ago. Split the difference and do bi-monthly? :P

user315433

As a safeguard, it should have a check for the number of upvotes. E.g., don't delete if 3+ upvotes were given to an answer. Even if a chatroom or two show up with 7 downvotes.

@hichris123 português

@tchrist That's a description, not an action.

Hence the verbing.

Minding the site.

I see.

user315433

3:23 AM

@JeffreyBosboom This one: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/262077

Can I interest you in the Reopen Vote entrée? Cheap & quick!

Jeffrey Bosboom

@hichris123 Wouldn't SOCVR be a more appropriate place to reopen-plz?

All of those questions have visited the Reopen Votes queue multiple times. Sad to see how much effort was wasted...

@JeffreyBosboom I suppose but I don't like bugging them.

user315433

3:46 AM

@hichris123 You can set up an alternative reopen queue, on an external site... Remove questions when reopened. Pin a link somewhere.

user315433

Just got my first AARP membership invitation in the mail. :-/

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Haven't seen such spam in a while

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12:34 PM

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so modern

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1:02 PM

lol

xen designist

1:57 PM

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3:14 PM

@Telkitty now I have to ask why you were searching for c# and z80 ...

In hope that a CP/M subsystem for Windows 10 will be the next big thing...

isn't that called MS-DOS ?

:D

MS-DOS trigger activated Who said MS-DOS??

!!/dir

Not for long anymore meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/320573/misleading-dos-tagging

3:20 PM

!!/edlin stkovrfl.com

!!/status report

@ShadowWizard Running since 13:42:30 UTC (100 minutes)

Hi fellas

Would you guys say that this is on-topic for SO? stackoverflow.com/questions/36477323/…

too broad I would say

yup ^

3:28 PM

Android is pretty active I asssume with enough close voters handling the queue?

ha!

Are you attempting to put on a comedy show, @rene?

user202362

@rene in answer to this ... at least as a result of seeing this :x

Ha, Win 11 will be the last Windows based OS, Win 12 is just an Ubuntu based distro.

user202362

so windows are not windows any more right? are you not joking? :p

3:45 PM

@rene thanks, agreed

When going through the "Low Quality Posts" queue, if I see that someone has already added a comment "From review", will recommending deletion with the same comment leave a duplicate comment?

@Telkitty why are you and @hichris123 assuming I'm joking? I'm a flower, it doesn't come funnier...

@cubrr yes, i never leave a comment in that case, only if I'm the first to arrive there

@rene okay, thanks again

I'm not saying I disagree with this answer, but it is more than a little sad that three years after the cleanup effort began, we are still saying that the Android tag is bad and needs to be cleaned up. Clearly there is a systemic problem, unsolvable by normal cleanup. — Cody Gray May 28 '14 at 4:50

Two years later we can add PHP, jQuery, asp.net-mvc ....

I think there's a handful of tags you could add to that list.

3:56 PM

@rene At least a few of those posts are decent. Most Android questions include a) little code, b) no stack trace, and c) a very poor description of the problem to top it off. At least for a bad jQuery question people link to a JSFiddle or their website; Android folks just say "it doesn't work!".

@hichris123 Ok, fair enough, let's ditch Android and the company that created that mess.

Obviously the solution is more jQuery.

$("#cowbell").more();

Do we already have a jQuery plugin for downloading the latest version of jQuery?

I assume that would be jpm?

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4:58 PM

@SmokeDetector del

user315433

5:13 PM

Yay for MathJax editing preview improvements userscript

user315433

But the link color on meta.math still burns my eyes after the recent change.

5:53 PM

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On our next installment of Job Titles That Aren't:

> Best Software Job Ever - Work from Home, Small Company, & Nice People

6:14 PM

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user315433

@SmokeDetector f

user315433

Does new nav have an option to show only questions with favorite tags?

@Marshmallow you're delicious.

Also, I'm not sure.

user315433

6:32 PM

BTW new-nav project recently celebrated its 1st birthday: Let’s improve our site navigation was published on March 11, 2015.

6:48 PM

DevDoodle just got a new nav a few days ago. It's blue-accented now!

I think blue is DevDoodle's color.

@bjb568 Copier

Oh, should I invent my own color?

Yes.

Or I'll claim that devdoodle is not original.

Skies will fall.

Cats will go unfed. :P

:o

7:26 PM

I confused Starbucks employee with dollar coins. Achievement get!

user315433

7:45 PM

I was confused by this sample question: When should I use 'wat' and when should I use 'dat' to refer to something?

8:03 PM

@Marshmallow yes, real world problems.

I assume it is required to have the sample questions in English?

After launch they can switch to alleen Nederlands?

user315433

I couldn't find any discussion of non-English sample questions for Area 51 proposals. On the existing language sites it's fine to ask in the subject language.

Yeah, I happened to see one on german.se, where some of the answers on the same question were in English and some in German. Requires a flexible mind to read through the answers

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA done! meta.stackexchange.com/questions/278099/…

Anyway, I'm afraid I'm not sure about your dupe, so don't want to use my hammer.

Won't close it again though if 2 more will vote to reopen.

Ha, How to translate the word "gezellig" to English?

8:32 PM

2 days ago, by hichris123

> Update (Dec 17): We're holding off on the A/B test for now, but feel free to keep testing the new UI. We are a bit short of resources to work on this right now, so we will only be fixing critical bugs for the next 6-8 weeks.

2 days ago, by hichris123

6-8 weeks turns into 5 months...

user315433

hiarewethereyet123

Jeffrey Bosboom

@hichris123 Oh, I thought they just stopped fixing bugs after 8 weeks. Good to know they kept working on it.

@JeffreyBosboom No news yet. :/

@Marshmallow Hi! 1... 2... 3... are we there yet?

In an update on yesterday's "Reopen Marathon"... 1 question that ended up with Leave Closed in the queue has been reopened, 1 question has been deleted, and 1 question now has 4 reopen votes (stackoverflow.com/questions/33742114/…).

Explaining a programming concept is mostly sorta off topic on SO. It's kinda more sorta like on topic for Programmers. Another reason why expanding the scope for the project would have been a much better idea. Also, Hitler wouldn't approve, as he's only into watching people write code on youtube. And funny cat videos. Yes, even Hitler likes those. — Will 9 hours ago

How long will it take for someone to complain about Programmers's scope, I wonder...

Based on this issue and some other poking around, I'm very tempted to submit a question asking about using highlight.js instead of prettify. But there's already this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/126608/…

What's the etiquette regarding re-surfacing questions that were last discussed ~4 years ago?

user315433

Bounty

8:46 PM

There's an existing +12 answer, so it seems likely that a bounty might just go to that one

@jtbandes If you do ask a new question, ask to address/re-assess these Shog9 concerns: there's really no reason to switch on a whim, especially considering the time invested in integrating Prettify. But you should also consider that this is a bit of code that needs to be both small and extremely fast - it runs on every page, and some pages have... A lot of code on them. Locking up someone's browser for a few extra features won't fly.

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@ShadowWizard ha

@ShadowWizard Which dupe?

@rene I was thinking of doing some performance testing...but of course that involves spending more time on it ;)

sure, but good feature request require time

yep

IMO, the highlight.js results just look... better. But it's hard to quantify that

I think the fact it's under active development is somewhat important, not that prettify is totally dead (as once assumed), but highlight.js seems much more active

8:51 PM

You could pick a bunch of bug-reports on MSO for prettify and see if the highlight fixes the issue

Jeffrey Bosboom

@jtbandes On the other hand, one person's "dead" is another person's "stable".

2

2 days ago, by amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@ShadowWizard can you unmark this as a duplicate? http://meta.stackexchange.com/q/277989/155556 because this is not true at all!

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@ShadowWizard ahhh. still isnt a dupe ;-)

@JeffreyBosboom "active" can be "stable" too, if you simply never upgrade the library, as it seems we have done with prettify for the past few years ;)

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA letting others decide. :)

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

8:54 PM

@ShadowWizard k fiine ;-)

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Q: Questions link almost unreadable when active on meta

If you click on Questions the font color is almost unreadable on the main site here. Is it possible to make it a slightly different color (I cant say if darker or lighter is better)

discussion feature-request hyperlinks meta

Is it just my eyes? ^

Jeffrey Bosboom

@JeffreyBosboom Now I'll wonder when I hear someone is "in stable condition".

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@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA It needs more red circles, but idk how to make them on a mac.

user315433

@jtbandes not automatically. Answers pre-dating the start of bounty are not eligible for automatic award.

oh. TIL

user315433

In any case, with bounties on meta.SE the recipient is almost completely irrelevant. It's just about visibility.

user315433

9:00 PM

Most meta.SE bounties are never awarded to anyone.

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA you can do a stylish:

.nav li.youarehere a {
    color: #FF87DA;
    font-weight: 600;
}

9:30 PM

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Look at this super-optimized HS testing class schedule. It totally makes sense!

user315433

Seconds field is missing.

user315433

in The DMZ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 28 mins ago, by Shog9

Had a moderator a while back who decided that a certain tag was not good for a certain site. Decided to merge it into another tag, and then rename both of them to "untagged" or some such. Ended up hitting a good chunk of questions on the site, completely ruining the ability of folks to follow questions, making a big mess and driving away a bunch of the top users.

user315433

Now I'm curious...

user315433

Initially thought of SF, but that was a bit different, and is mentioned just below in the same chat.

9:59 PM

morning

@Marshmallow it was lifehacks

that's the tragic story of lifehacks

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@rene baaah

user315433

@Quill But it's so appropriate for the site...

user315433

You'd expect a moderator to sidestep tag difficulties with unconventional methods.

10:31 PM

in The DMZ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 hours ago, by Shog9

@Iszi so why would you believe it then? We could be making all of this up, as a cover for our organ-harvesting scheme.

this is an awfully indepth cover for organ harvesting

stack overflow is probably more profitable anyway o_O

Hey some interesting stats from a DMZ conversation. Surprise surprise. Though similar stats were probably posted by Shog earlier...

in The DMZ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 10 mins ago, by Shog9

Name                                         Flags   PctHelpful
-------------------------------------------- ------- ----------
Answer Not An Answer                         1424336 94.61 %
Post Low Quality                             506214  79.44 %
Post Other                                   295767  75.09 %
Comment Not Constructive Or Off Topic        218278  85.61 %
Comment Obsolete                             188389  98.05 %
Post Spam                                    175346  91.19 %
Comment Too Chatty                           125751  96.56 %

user315433

Only 91.19% for spam flags?

is that for sec.se

So many tabs I have open...

user315433

10:37 PM

Looks like SO by the volume. They were talking about SO then.

That was for SO.

@Marshmallow people flag posts that are considered rude and abusive (mostly like mashed characters kinda thing) as spam

in The DMZ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 8 mins ago, by Shog9

Name                                       Flags PctHelpful
------------------------------------------ ----- ----------
Answer Not An Answer                       7251  93.81 %
Post Spam                                  6637  98.73 %
Post Other                                 2783  88.18 %
Post Low Quality                           2274  87.51 %
Post Low Quality (Auto)                    1830  96.67 %
Comment Not Constructive Or Off Topic      1015  71.13 %
Comment Obsolete                           745   88.19 %

This is Security.

Post Invalid Flags                           30842   11.31 %

What is a post invalid flag?

user315433

@Quill No, Post Offensive is separate in the table

Ohhh 10k disputes?

Yeah, since it's all-time.

in The DMZ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 4 mins ago, by Shog9

On this site, roughly 33% of LQ review tasks are handled in review (not preempted by the mod flag queue) (the median time for completing a task is 117 minutes, vs 71.5 for moderators, hence the number of sniped tasks)

in The DMZ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 3 mins ago, by Shog9

on SO, that's ~60% - mods aren't really much slower, but there are so many flags it doesn't matter (also there's a longer period of exclusivity for review there)

10:41 PM

@Marshmallow yeah, the percentage helpful is skewed because people flag incorrectly

lol Shog handles drama by laying down stats

user315433

Compare to Security, where it's healthy 98.73%. SO users don't seem to have a clue.

user315433

@Quill Yay for drama, then.

when he's active on here, you can ask him really nicely and he usually can help out

user315433

That's kind of a slow-moving drama, though... how many days is this going on, starting with TW chat suspension.

too many. :/

10:44 PM

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Q: Are general tag discussion threads ever useful?

I've seen “tag spring cleaning” meta threads on many sites, where people are invited to raise problematic tags, one tag per answer. They usually end up in a mess: after the first few, nobody pays attention to anymore, and being able to discuss things only in comments is stifling (is this tag real...

discussion tags per-site-meta

user315433

@Quill The problem is not format, the problem is that there are 2 people who give a sh#t and they are tired already.

user315433

(In the context of math, where such threads are traditional)

When you discuss really broad actions, it's hard to be motivated to progress

Nobody wants to do a 40 tag cleanup of 2000 questions

but a 1 tag cleanup of 150 as they pop up, much easier

user315433

I looked at /tags?tab=new again now, which I used to do regularly, but it just makes me so angry every time.

user315433

This just in: users decided that the name of a mathematician mentioned in a question should be added as a tag.

10:50 PM

inb4 out of nowhere INA enters the room and links the death to meta tags blog post

you could always do a why mathematician's names aren't acceptable tags meta post

Aww, looks like Shog stopped giving stats.

user315433

537 posts on math.meta, I'm kind of tired too.

in CoGro Musings, 2 days ago, by Jon Ericson

> Today, I argue for more argument on the Internet. I freely admit that this is a Hardcore-difficulty rhetorical maneuver.

@Marshmallow You can answer homework questions instead...

:P

how do geet mangitude of vecta

user315433

In a way, why should I care? Let users tag their questions [asdf] if they want to.

user315433

11:01 PM

This won't be in my tag set, so I'll never see the posts.

-1

Q: Unable to increase worker memory above 2GB in sparkling water shell

When running the sparkling-shell : bin/sparkling-shell The following error occurs: org.apache.spark.SparkException: Asked to launch cluster with 2048 MB RAM / worker but requested 20480 MB/worker We have set following in spark-env.sh : export SPARK_WORKER_MEMORY=108GB export SPARK_WORKER_I...

apache-spark h2o sparkling-water

[h2o] [sparkling-water] the state of library naming...

yeah...

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Q: Can the offer to move to jobs be made more clear?

When I visit someone else's CV, I get this prompt: My immediate thought was, "How did this guy get my email address?" My second thought was, "Oh wait. I'm about to take over this person's CV." For sanity, I used an incognito window and discovered this was just a general offer to me and not rel...

feature-request jobs careers

11:28 PM

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Q: We cannot get this simple Cisco ASA 5505 ACLs right #NOHELP

I'm trying to get an ASA to receive ICMP from a router connected to outside interface My access list for the outside has: access-list outside-in extended permit icmp host 192.168.1.10 192.168.100.0 255.255.255.0 echo Should i have more, to make it a list? It seems so simple, but it wont wo...

routing ip cisco icmp

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