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@JohannesSchaublitb so in the beginnning there were us peons. Then one of them came to be known as a girl (which she was in fact) and being a girl in a room full of men she was held in a higher regard (as women often are) and there were allegations of collusion with higher authorities (merely accusations, of the jocular bent) and then ... lo and behold, one day she became a higher authority. So now we continue our geeklike behavior of identifying the one female in the room and assuming that she

Moshe

@TimStone Neither have I, but it sounds like you have, mind sharing that info?

drachenstern

9:07 PM

damn you being out of characters!! Now we'll never know the end of that story!

Josh

@MichaelMyers that sounds painful

Tim Stone

No, I'm good.

Moshe

@TimStone - What are you referring to? You know, you never "reply".

Johannes Schaub - litb

BTW i know a trick

just

Michael Myers

@drachenstern This is actually the only post so far today that made me laugh out loud.

Michael Mrozek

9:08 PM

Wow, the primary votes are visible? I assumed that was not the case

Moshe

(removed)

Johannes Schaub - litb

make it three

dammit

drachenstern

@MichaelMyers Yatta! I win a price!

Johannes Schaub - litb

now!

Michael Myers

@MichaelMrozek Election votes aren't, it seems.

Shog9

9:08 PM

@MichaelMyers: Aaanyway, I want to at least re-use my previous answer. If there's a chance you could look at Diago's account and dig up a link, I would be very thankful...

Tim Stone

@Moshe I'm not sure that there was anything that my message would have made any sense in reply to other than your message.

Johannes Schaub - litb

hm too high traffic

drachenstern

@MichaelMrozek it's only the election that's hidden

Moshe

@TimStone Ok, I thought there was.

drachenstern

@JohannesSchaublitb too much traffic to do what?

Michael Mrozek

9:09 PM

@drachenstern The wisdom of that is pretty debatable, but ok

Josh

@Moshe actually that question is a duplicate

drachenstern

post three times in a row and get the block on the left to expand to show the larger avatar and your host-site score?

Josh

54

Q: PHP Session Security

What are some guidelines for maintaining responsible session security with PHP? There's information all over the web, so it's about time it all landed in one place!

Can we get some close votes on:

drachenstern

@MichaelMrozek not my call, but I like it this way

Josh

1

Q: How Do I Make Sessions More Secure?

I am using sessions all throughout my application. I want to make them much more secure. Currently I am using code like $username = $_SESSION['username']; and the like. How do I make my sessions more secure?

php security session

Michael Myers

9:09 PM

@Shog9 What was the question about?

Shog9

@MichaelMyers making account deletion more easy

drachenstern

@Josh +1

Michael Myers

@Shog9 meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/67415/…

Josh

woah, initially voting as a duplicate automatically posts a comment?

Moshe

@Josh What do I know?

drachenstern

9:10 PM

wtf? SO!!! Nominations close in 49 minutes.

Shog9

@MichaelMyers gracias!

drachenstern

@Josh yes it does, and you can then remove that if you like

Tim Stone

@Josh You didn't know that? :P

Michael Mrozek

I'm trying to figure out if I missed a joke somewhere

Moshe

@Josh What do you have against Mallory?

drachenstern

9:11 PM

@MichaelMrozek the fact that you're here and not working?

Michael Myers

@Josh Is this your first time?

Josh

@Moshe I love mallory!

Tim Stone

@MichaelMyers I've asked the duplicate marking system to be gentle with him.

Michael Mrozek

@drachenstern No, that's the cold hard reality of my life

Josh

He does all my dirty work for me

drachenstern

9:12 PM

@MichaelMyers I think it is his first time to be the first to ID a dupe

Josh

@MichaelMyers I guess so. I have agreed on dupes before but I guess this was my first vote to close when nobody else had

No, I don't think that's true

status-completed

@Josh I do know what you mean

drachenstern

wow, three users shy of 30 in here

Josh

@drachenstern I swear I remember pasting a question URL in the box before. I guess I never noticed the comment

Tim Stone

@Josh Yeah, now you know that it's not that everyone has an aversion to capital P's, just a consequence of automation.

drachenstern

9:13 PM

@Josh the comment you mean?

Josh

@TimStone ROFLMAO

@drachenstern That's what I said... ;-)

Moshe

OMG, we're a "close ring" now too!

Josh

@Moshe ringadingdong the thingadiningdong

Michael Mrozek

@Moshe I read it first; I don't feel too bad

drachenstern

@Moshe nah, that's over in the Regulator Headquarters

Moshe

9:14 PM

@MichaelMrozek I did read it too, didn't know it was a dupe.

Michael Myers

@Moshe Meh. Used to be that all the closed questions said "Rich B, Welbog, Gortok, Pesto, TheTXI".

Moshe

@MichaelMyers Sounds like a "Closing pack"

status-completed

@MichaelMyers Was it the "SO Mafia" ?

Moshe

Who is this "goreSplatter" anyway?

Josh

Nobody flgged my offensive answer as offensive... I guess it wasn't offensive enough...

2

A: Is it offensive if a competitor of a vendor calls that vendor "worst, monstrous, overpriced, useless"?

First of all, the language used in the comment is very debatable. Personally, I find it rude and offensive, from any commenter. That comment was not offensive. Perhaps it could be considered rude, but I suppose you could consider vehement disagreement "rude". However an offensive comment ...

Moshe

9:16 PM

@Josh - How'dya do the "spoiler" thing?

Michael Myers

@statuscompleted That's what the people who always tried to reopen called them.

drachenstern

Ok folks, I really really really need to void this window for an hour or so ... @me if you need me, repeatedly if you need me very badly. I'm going /afc for a bit

Tim Stone

Ah good, we're finally going to have that conference call..

Josh

@Moshe >!Text here

Michael Mrozek

@Moshe meta.stackoverflow.com/revisions/…

Moshe

9:16 PM

@Josh Ah

>!Test

Tim Stone

Not in chat...

Moshe

>!WorksInChat

drachenstern

@Moshe doesn't work in chat

chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/38/sandbox

Michael Mrozek

I like "hover over if you want to be offended". I'm going to start all my answers with "continue reading if you want to be offended", and then just go to town

2

Josh

66

Q: Add markdown support for hidden-until-you-click text (aka spoilers)

Use cases: Programming puzzles. This way the answer can be posted the same time as the question, eliminating doubt that no answer is possible for hard questions and proving that the question is not a homework exercise (since the author already has the answer) The socratic method. In your answer...

feature-request status-completed markdown

Moshe

9:17 PM

@MichaelMrozek But... but... who will write your answer if you've gone to town?

Josh

@Moshe Oy

Moshe

@Josh :-D

Tim Stone

@MichaelMrozek They should make it easier on you and just position your gravatar at the top of your answers, so people have fair warning what they're getting into.

Moshe

@Josh Did that "Oy" really get starred? no it did not.

Josh

I knew it, I knew that would get a star. You guys are so predictable, I love it!

status-completed

9:19 PM

What star ?

drachenstern

I also hate E(x) and Var(x), if anyone is keeping score. And improper integrals... #grr #argh

Tweeted by Avatar_of_DEK on January 25, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Josh

And I knew it would get unstarred after I commented on how it got a star ;-)

Michael Mrozek

0

A: Formatting Sandbox

PREPARE FOR PAIN (Insert answer here)

I'm extremely upset that the blinking gravatar wasn't included in that onebox

Tim Stone

...That actually works quite well.

I am too, but I clicked through anyway :P

Moshe

in Chat feedback, 1 min ago, by Moshe

Feature request: "Oy"'s should cost 2 stars.

2

really wants to release a game, but it's not finished!

Josh

9:22 PM

@Moshe call it a "beta" :-)

Moshe

@Josh On the App Store? Beta?

I also want to charge $$ for it.

#define kBetaAndPriceTag (Beta && price > 0) == false

Eh, I'm almost done anyways, I've got a lot of graphics manipulation to do now.

Josh

release a demo then

Michael Myers

What's it like? Is it radically new?

Moshe

It's almost done.

It's a Dope Wars clone.

But with Sushi

It's B&W, like the original, but a lot nicer.

Does not incorporate any violence or drugs, so it's good for kids too (and the Apple approval process).

@Zypher has been testing it, but I've heard little from him, aside from a much appreciated bug report.

Josh

@Moshe well, except for violence against fish

Moshe

9:27 PM

@Josh - No, Rice.

Josh

@Moshe He's a busy guy, running the StackOverflow network and all ;-)

Michael Myers

@Moshe Isn't sushi a drug? It's a strange, semi-natural edible substance, which is about the same thing.

Moshe

Sushi

is a Japanese dish consisting of cooked vinegared rice which is commonly topped with other ingredients, such as fish or other seafood, or put into rolls. Sliced raw fish by itself is called sashimi, as distinct from sushi. Sushi that is served rolled inside or around nori, dried and pressed sheets of seaweed, is makizushi. Toppings stuffed into a small pouch of fried tofu is inarizushi. A bowl of sushi rice with toppings scattered over it is called chirashizushi. History The traditional form of sushi is fermented fish and rice, preserved with salt in a process that has been traced t...

Josh

@Moshe OH. NOW I UNDERSTAND YOUR SEEMINGLY SILLY REQUEST FOR AN IMAGE OF Grains of RICE!

Moshe

@Josh smiles

Josh

9:28 PM

I do not know why my shift key quit on me there

Moshe

I dumped the concept, btw.

Josh

@Moshe Stop it. I just ate lunch and now you're making me hungry!

Moshe

No rice, all B&W.

is tempted to post Wiki on Cholent to spite @Josh.

@Josh - You know the "dictionary" screensaver on OS X?

Shog9

Oh, Sashimi, they don't believe me... but you won't let those iPhones eat me...

Josh

@Moshe I do not

Moshe

9:30 PM

@Shog9 smiles again

Josh

Is this a 10.6 thing @Moshe?

Moshe

@Josh Could be. There's some deep blue screensaver. I think that's it.

Point being, every time I go back to my MacBook, the screensaver deactivates. It looks like a BSOD.

Josh

@Moshe Please don't call your MacBook your "lappie". It disturbs me. Thank you.

Moshe

@Josh Ok

Josh

LOL

Moshe

9:33 PM

@Josh Edited.

Josh

But no I have no such thing on my 10.5 Mac

Shog9

Call it "Bookie". That'll make everyone comfortable.

Moshe

@Josh Please don't call your MacBook your "machine", it those languages which couldn't come up with an original word for "Computer"

ducks

@Shog9 Oh, for sure.

Josh

FTFY @Moshe

Moshe

@Josh Thank you, much appreciated.

Josh

9:36 PM

I try :-)

Moshe

Wondering if this is one of the first B&W apps.

0

Q: Are there any "B&W" apps for iOS?

Are there any apps on the App Store that are in "Black & White"?

ios apps

Just please don't go posting: "Yea... I heard... This game... (name redacted)... Coming out soon...."

</edits>

@Josh - How cool would it be if I open sourced the game?

Does it make sense to OS something after a while of successful sales?

Josh

@Moshe it would be very cool

@Moshe Sure. You can of course keep charging for it

Moshe

Well, let's see it pass approval first. Not that it shouldn't but a big release can make one nervous.

Michael Mrozek

@Moshe The humble bundle did it

Moshe

@MichaelMrozek Right, I heard about that.

Anyone wanna see some artwork?

Josh

9:49 PM

@Moshe Sure!

Helps distract me from estimates, which I hate

Moshe

Thoughts?

@drachenstern - When you get back, this is the compromise I came to. B&W artwork

drachenstern

Hey that's pretty sharp

Josh

I like it @Moshe

Moshe

Thanks. @drachenstern and @Josh

Pollyanna

Nominations over in a few minutes. Get yours in now if you have at least 12k rep!

Josh

9:54 PM

@Pollyanna WHAT?

Oh, Nominations, sorry

I was thinking voting

Moshe

@Josh - This guy has some neat software:

uri.cat/software.php

Josh

> Little eyes sit on the menu bar and follow your movements. Requires camera equipped mac.

I had that like 20 years ago, LOL

except it followed my mouse

Moshe

Times change

Michael Mrozek

@Josh That's a pretty big exception

Moshe

It works

Michael Mrozek

9:55 PM

I had "computer follows my every thought" 20 years ago, except it followed my typed commands instead of my thoughts

Josh

@MichaelMrozek same concept, different input device

Pollyanna

I dunno, he's comparing himself to a mouse.

Josh

squeak

@MichaelMrozek actually what I had before was almost exactly a menubar version of xeyes

Moshe

This is great for bugging people who want to borrow my ... pause, glares @Josh ...MacBook.

Josh

ah, now that's clever, I see what you did there... you said "@Josh" to not only @ notify me but indicate I was the target of your glare, that is, "glares at Josh". Clever.

;-)

Michael Mrozek

9:58 PM

> Nominations close in 1 minute.

Well there goes a perfect opportunity to annoy Jeff with a pluralization bug

5

Thanks, SO devs :(

Josh

Quick! Someone upvote all my answers and questions, many, many, many times!

Michael Mrozek

@Josh Done

Josh

@MichaelMrozek Please don't. I think he'll kill you a horrible death, and this room would not be nearly as fun without your... unique commentary!

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