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Josh

11:00 PM

oh, ok, whew!

Michael Myers

Anyway, I was thinking more along the lines of cash.

but, you know, we can talk.

Josh

What's the going rate for stars these days?

Michael Myers

Probably less at 2300 UTC than they were a couple of hours ago.

Josh

I wouldn't pay more than $1 for a star. And we're talking meta stars. In fact, Tavern stars. The inflation is so bad I would expect to get at least five for a penny!

just let me know where to paypal your $0.01 @MichaelMyers

;-)

Michael Myers

Well, I could always threaten to pin some embarrassing message of yours.

Josh

11:03 PM

You think that scares me?

Michael Myers

Oh, that won't work. Of course you don't have anything embarrassing to star, right?

Josh

Jan 10 at 21:05, by Josh

@TimStone I think I'm going to go back to committing my password into subversion, that's less embarrassing ;-)

Michael Myers

Nah. Scott Hanselman did that and got 100 upvotes for it.

Josh

LOL

drachenstern

@MichaelMyers link or it didn't happen >_>

Michael Myers

11:13 PM

@drachenstern As you wish:

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A: Confessions of your worst WTF moment

I shipped my administrator password for an FTP site inside an open source project I was working on. ;)

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff you about?

knows she's lurking :p

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A: Should questions from Oracle Overflow be migrated here?

I think that given the discussion on this answer: Should questions from Oracle Overflow be migrated here? that we should allow for individual questions to be duplicated from the old site and that there should be a specific block header at the top that says that it was duplicated from that site, a...

I kinda want to say "duh" because I thought it was obvious that we didn't want to just copy over every single question, but I want to know if there's already a precedent for this sort of behavior at all on the SE2.0 sites?

Tim Stone

> jzy played HORNY for 20 points

drachenstern

lol

Josh

11:29 PM

Argh, shakes fist @RebeccaChernoff for giving me the drive to try the SF challenge and causing me to waste my time writing answers to people who don't know what they're doing!

-1

Q: use of fastcgi in linux shared hosting

hi, what is the use of fastcgi in linux shared deluxe hosting in godaddy. why wordpress showed server error when fastcgi was enabled? is this something to do with php or mail or wordpress.

drachenstern

@waffles ~ You getting this? Test Test ...

lol ... c'mon @Josh it can't be all that bad

Josh

@drachenstern Read the question and my <strike>answer</strike> novel. Why did I just do that???

Moshe

Hi, I need help.

Josh

That's for sure! HAR!

@Moshe just razzing you. what's up?

Moshe

@Josh - No

Weird situation here

drachenstern

11:31 PM

@Josh to add knowledge to SE2.0 of course

so when it gains sentience it will know about FastCGI

Moshe

I mentioned the router we "have" here, right?

Josh

@drachenstern Ok. Thanks, I feel better now :-)

drachenstern

@Josh YW. Also, consider me slightly more informed about FastCGI now :d

Moshe

So s1 took over the admin interface. Then, they blocked everyone and went on vacation.

Luckily, we realized that he block computers by name.

So, some people's computers have been renamed :-D

drachenstern

does anyone else see a throbber image there?

Moshe

11:33 PM

However, this individual should not have the admin password.

What can we do?

Josh

@drachenstern haha cool. It was a basic overview, we'll see if it helps him :-)

drachenstern

@Moshe change the admin password

Moshe

@drachenstern - Image Not Found

drachenstern

@Moshe same here

Josh

@drachenstern I see a throbbing image not found

Moshe

11:33 PM

@drachenstern - No, he changed it already. We don't have access to the router.

drachenstern

lol

@Moshe reset the router, change it again

Josh

and by throbbing I mean not throbbing at all, actually

Moshe

@drachenstern I'm not dumb, i'm looking for an unpublicized method for resetting the router remotely.

Josh

@Moshe do you not have physical access to the router?

Moshe

@Josh - True

Josh

11:35 PM

also, what kind of router are we talking here?

Moshe

(removed)

Josh

like a professional Verizon routr?

Moshe

DSL

@Josh - No, home router.

Josh

OK

drachenstern

@Moshe oh, yeah, ok, uh huh, sure, a non-published way to remotely reset a router password ... hmmm, think about the actual physical damage that would entail

Josh

11:35 PM

Because factory resetting a professional router would be a bad idea

Zypher

@Moshe you own the accoutn w/ verizon?

Moshe

@drachenstern Heh.

@Zypher - No.

Josh

@Zypher would cry

Zypher

ah nevermind then

drachenstern

I think you're SOL

You need physical

Tim Stone

11:36 PM

@Zypher Good ol' backdoors..

Moshe

There is one other option, but that requires our friend to log in.

Josh

@Zypher I picture @Moshe factory resetting some Cisco router for his whole department and blowing away the tables, LOL

Zypher

ha

Moshe

haha

By the way, what would happen if I were to reset a commercial router?

Zypher

depends on if the guys who set it up wrote out the config or not

anything from 5 mins downtime to "OH SHIT!"

Josh

11:38 PM

@Moshe Often times the sysadmin has put in static routes

meaning that if you rset it, you might as well not have a router at all, because nothing will go anywhere

Moshe

Ah, ok.

I see.

Josh

And if it's a stoopid syadmin who didn't back up the router config, you're likely to get an ass-kicking as a side effect ;-)

I remember bringing down the entire campus network when I was at college, with a mis-configured CUPS installation, LOL

Zypher

i mean you could try to DOS the router if it's one of those crappy one verizon gives small biz accounts

drachenstern

What is it you need the router to do exactly that you need the password?

Zypher

it'll probably reset

Josh

11:40 PM

@Zypher could he pown it that way, or just annoy everyone as it buckles under the load?

Moshe

@Zypher - You mean DDOS?

Josh

@drachenstern This is the real question here

@Moshe DDOS = Distributed DOS

@Moshe DOS = Denial of Service

Tim Stone

@Moshe Do you have a botnet at your disposal?

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Moshe

@drachenstern - unblock those that shouldn't have been.

@Josh - got it.

@TimStone - No. But...

Zypher

@Moshe you shouldn't need to DDOS it those are pretty chintzy a regular one machine DOS should drop it

Josh

11:42 PM

@Moshe That's where the distributed comes in. A DDOS was used to take the entire country of Estonia offline, for example

Zypher

@Josh well yea that too

Josh

I think your router is less powerful than Estonia. Then again, maybe not...

Tim Stone

Poor Estonia. :(

Moshe

Ha, so how would I DOS it? a script or so?

Josh

(Wasn't it Estonia?)

Rebecca Chernoff

11:42 PM

peeking in, this seems like a dangerous conversation (;

Josh

ROFLMAO

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff shhh, we don't need any mods here (ignores @Zypher's status)

Tim Stone

Yeah, then the Estonians decided they'd get super hardcore about cyber warfare defense. :P

Zypher

@RebeccaChernoff i swear i have nothign to do with suggestiong DOS'ing something

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Moshe

tries to research the subject in Russian using Google Translate.

Josh

11:43 PM

@RebeccaChernoff Read my FastCGI answer instead, it's more interesting

drachenstern

@Josh Elbonia? :p

Josh

Nothing to see here, please move along...

Rebecca Chernoff

@Josh I highly doubt that.

Moshe

@RebeccaChernoff - Do you know how?

Josh

@RebeccaChernoff You got me answering SF questions again, I wrote a whole book to a use who had possibly one of the qorst questions I ever saw. But hey, these are the SF questions I can answer ;-)

Moshe

11:44 PM

@Josh - Which question?

Josh

@Moshe She she does. She DOSed my disposal didn't she?

Tim Stone

@Josh I really need to start answering mod_rewrite questions on SF so that other people...don't.

Josh

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Q: use of fastcgi in linux shared hosting

hi, what is the use of fastcgi in linux shared deluxe hosting in godaddy. why wordpress showed server error when fastcgi was enabled? is this something to do with php or mail or wordpress.

linux fastcgi godaddy shared-hosting

Tim Stone

So much fail. shakes head

Josh

@TimStone no, please don't. I've seen your mod_rewrite questions, they're just plain dangerous!

;-)

Tim Stone

11:45 PM

Only the doing maths with mod_rewrite one. :P

Josh

That's the one I read :-)

> want to know the use of fastcgi. i used to write code in same page or classes, etc. Saw one folder 'cgi' in root, whats its use? – Rodrigues 4 hours ago

heh, where to even start, LOL

drachenstern

don't you just hate when requirements dictates a restriction on usability that would otherwise make a more useful page?

Moshe

@Zypher - I suppose a script would the trick, I just need to point it at the router.

Tim Stone

@Josh With this "WTF?" face:

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drachenstern

@TimStone keep that just laying around do you?

Josh

11:48 PM

@TimStone LOL

Moshe

...wait for it...

Zypher

@Moshe yep basically something that opens a crapton of IP connections, preferably to google or something or just pund the admin interface

drachenstern

@waffles nm, too late :p

Moshe

waffles

MAN

Tim Stone

11:49 PM

@drachenstern Until I can be bothered to change my profile picture, apparently. :P

Moshe

Man, them Russians don't speak English.

Josh

@Zypher preferably not to the Stack Exchange network!

Moshe

@Josh - Oh, heavens no! Certainly not.

Zypher

ehh he could try ... but it would be killed fairly quickly

Tim Stone

@Zypher With extreme prejudice.

drachenstern

11:50 PM

@Moshe imagine that

Zypher

always ... always

Josh

@Zypher yeah I know, by H... what is it, HAProxy?

It's something I keep meaning to research, LOL

Moshe

Man, real conversation, just now:

Josh

Kyle was talking about it in chat months ago

Moshe

A: So I accepted your friend request on FaceBook.

B: I don't have FaceBook.

A: freezes

Josh

11:52 PM

LOL

Rebecca Chernoff

and then did you find $5? (;

Tim Stone

There's money laying idly about chat?

Josh

@TimStone Yeah, I offered to buy stars from @MichaelMyers -- I mean, um...

Rebecca Chernoff

Oh yeah, I started starring things to annoy those without stars. I should go star some more. (;

Tim Stone

@Josh I thought the rate was much cheaper than that. :P

Josh

11:54 PM

:451099 I'm still not clear on how the DOS is going to pown the device. I think all the DOS will do is kill it, and your net connection will go down...

@TimStone cheaper? I expected 5 stars for $0.01!

Moshe

@Josh - I don't know, but we'll find out!

Josh

@Moshe ROFLMAO!

Moshe

@Josh - You mean 5 for 0.01¢?

Josh

@Moshe In all likelyhood you'll find out and be unable to rejoin chat to tell us :-)

Tim Stone

@Josh You wanted 2500 stars for $5 then?

Josh