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> Scientists using NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope have detected beams of antimatter produced above thunderstorms on Earth, a phenomenon never seen before.

nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/fermi-thunderstorms.html

woot, now we can refuel our warp drives with thunderstorms

drachenstern

12:25 AM

ok to hell with this, I'm going home and getting a fresh start on it in the AM ... stupid javascript doesn't like a single \ ... domain\username -> domainusername and domain\\username -> domain\\username ... wtf man

Josh

@drachenstern Want help with that?

Lance Roberts

12:37 AM

I wish there was a way to label my Outlook emails, so when I get the generic ones from copiers sending me a scan, I could make it obvious what they were.

Josh

@LanceRoberts I'm not an outlook guy, sorry...

Dan Grossman

Mozilla Thunderbird

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drachenstern

1:03 AM

@Josh if you know the answer ('twas the point of the rant ;) )

oKtosiTe

@RebeccaChernoff Thanks.

drachenstern

@lance you could flag them with a certain flag. I wish outlook worked like gmail

Time to cook dinner

Lance Roberts

@drachenstern Yep, I just flagged them as important and left it at that.

drachenstern

1:21 AM

@lance set them to orange?

@YiJiang what am I missing from an hour ago (follow the posts up)

Lance Roberts

@drachenstern My 'important' flag color in Outlook 2010 is purple.

@drachenstern We once again saved the world from boredom.

drachenstern

1:36 AM

K

Dan Grossman

blamestella.com

interesting website monitoring tool, lovely design

Dan Grossman

1:59 AM

:doesn't understand how a load average of 0.06 with 4.9%us translates to "50% cpu usage" on linode graphs:

and apparently all these empty HTTP requests pinging the server add up to 1mbps

drachenstern

2:27 AM

@DanGrossman you aware that says session error?

Dan Grossman

no, I viewed it in an incognito window so assumed everyone could see it, guess not :/

2 hours ago, by Pekka

"Session expired" ahahahahahaha

Dan Grossman

2:56 AM

oddly quiet in here for a tuesday night

drachenstern

Indeed it is

but what're ya gonna do?

user10926

Would someone here be able to address a question I posted?

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Q: Can the subtitle of an area 51 proposal be edited during the commitment phase?

I created a "Dermatology and Dermatopathology" proposal at: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/22278/dermatology-and-dermatopathology With that being said, I wanted to know if during this commitment stage a moderator might be able to edit the subtitle of the proposal to something a bit m...

drachenstern

welcome back doc

user10926

thanks

also, I need some more experienced SE users with bad rashes to sign up

drachenstern

well if you own it, and you can't figure out how to modify it, then I don't know but to let it set on meta

Tim Stone

2:59 AM

You can't modify anything during commitment because it's expected that your site has a set topic by that point.

But Robert et al can modify that at any time, if you have a convincing need to do so.

drachenstern

@TimStone I grok the point, but surely making the subtitle a bit more enticing is a good reason for a community coordinator to enhance it no? :p

I so want to ping our resident blue lady for her attn on this one :p heheheh

Tim Stone

I didn't look at the question, but I'm not sure how willing they are to make those kinds of changes.

user10926

I have a big opportunity to get the national derm interest group (DIGA) to use the forum, which is composed of derm-bound medical students

drachenstern

Surely the subtitle won't turn them away ...

user10926

so I want to make sure the subtitle is inclusive of them, and other skin enthusiasts

drachenstern

3:04 AM

Try and get it advertised in a timely community oriented publication too ;) :p

In that case ....

I would suggest that you compose an email to Robert and explain to him with at least three solid points why he should change the subtitle, and explain that it's not going to be detrimental to the site-in-progress, then include the link to the question in the email.

Tim Stone

Ah, I see. That may be reasonable...Robert just answered another question, so it's possible he might spot that one and reply.

drachenstern

Or that

Tim Stone

This is actually partially my bad too, I read that topic statement when you linked to it the other day and had meant to point out it seemed very limited in audience..

user10926

ok, I will wait to see if he replies.

thanks again for the help

drachenstern

Indeed

user10926

3:06 AM

ok

drachenstern

Tim do you ever use the /review route?

user10926

will bbl

drachenstern

ciao

Tim Stone

Don't tell Jeff (even though he's lurking right there) or waffles, but not really. I've actually been meaning to, I've just been busy, heh.

drachenstern

lol

I need to repro a behavior

it offers me the room to close a question, except the close confirm button is grayed out

need a pic?

Tim Stone

3:09 AM

And you have close votes left?

I can't repro it, the button ungreys when I select a close reason.

drachenstern

I haven't tried to repro, didn't want to refresh in case I should look at something

Tim Stone

Hm, screenshot then?

drachenstern

it looks like it aborted on one of the "window changes" cos I refreshed and no such repeat

Tim Stone

Ah :P

drachenstern

But it doesn't remove it from the list after I VtC

that might be a meta worthy question

instead, I'll try this @BALPHA!!!!!!1

Tim Stone

3:15 AM

@drachenstern I guess that might not always be desired.

drachenstern

isn't he the one working on that at times?

Tim Stone

Like if you vote to close as duplicate, but then want to request a merge or something..

drachenstern

hmmm ...

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A: Making Mysql Igore "The" from the start of a LIKE

Try: SELECT * FROM company WHERE name regexp '^(The)d'

Tim Stone

I think it was just waffles, but I might be wrong.

drachenstern

Ok well @BALPHA!!!!!!!!! can tell me when he gets here :p

Tim Stone

3:19 AM

Ah, there we go @user10926. :)

Oh, he left, heh.

drachenstern

He just left about ten seconds before you hit enter

Tim Stone

OK, good...I was worried that I only imagined his gravatar there when I went to type that, hahah.

drachenstern

that's ok, I'm pretty sure I am hallucinating on something I was doing at work before I left

Tim Stone

That uh...sounds like it could be problematic.

drachenstern

jsfiddle.net/6hsa6

I'm so sure that my header value showed a domain\\username and a domainusername depending on which I pushed in

it was pissing me off, so I left

Tim Stone

3:30 AM

Ah, so you were seeing double on the first one?

drachenstern

yeah but as you see it's not reproducible

brb, walking my mutts

that was uneventful

Tim Stone

Not necessarily a bad thing.

It's actually snowing quite a bit here at the moment, rather glad I don't have to venture out.

drachenstern

I wouldn't mind some snow, but it aint happening here, all we got was ice

Mark E

plenty of snow in the DC area

and by plenty, I mean more than the DCers are used to and what NYers might call a dusting

Tim Stone

4:01 AM

Yeah, I'm a bit north, towards Philly. It just started a couple of hours ago, I think.

Mark E

oh i hear it's supposed to me much worse near philly

Tim Stone

Yeah, I think they cancelled schools already and stuff. I guess I should look at how much we're supposed to get, hahah.

Mark E

meh

it probably doesn't matter

Tim Stone

Only 4 to 8 inches, not that much.

Mark E

unless they're canceling work...

at least

i stopped looking at the weather

because i'm still going into the office tomorrow

better i be surprised when i leave the underground parking

Tim Stone

4:06 AM

Hah, I suppose so. I mostly work from home right now, so I won't have to drive in it either way.

Mark E

so i set out compiling gcc yesterday

this, it turns out, is quite the adventure

Tim Stone

Oh?

Mark E

well I'm trying to experiment with sixgill (sixgill.org)

and it turns out there's this unresolved compiler bug it depends on, but the author wrote a patch for GCC

which is all fine and dandy, except it requires recompiling GCC

the compile ran for 2 hours and my computer core-dumped somewhere in the middle

need to retry tomorrow

but er, compiling a compiler using the compiler you're compiling

seems sort of goofy

Michael Mrozek

@MarkE The GCC binaries are always done that way, I think. They compile the new version with the old version, and then use the new version to recompile its own source to get any new optimizations the old version didn't have

Mark E

@MichaelMrozek oh I figured as much

I was lost in dependency hell for a bit until I realized I could apt-get the missing libs

beggs

5:42 AM

a compiler compiling itself is, if I remember those classes through the haze, a milestone in any compilers development...

Benjol

5:57 AM

Ah, @marc, there you are again, climbing up the gravatar list without saying anything :)

OK 'fess up people, who's received the survey results?

Marc Gravell

@Benjol that's 'cos I'm still reading backwards over my team's discussions

Benjol

@MarcGravell, ok :)

Dan Grossman

Self-hosting

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Benjol

@Benjol Anyways, Executive Summary: respondents are surprisingly happy with their jobs. A heck of a lot of them are working in very small companies. Developing for the web. They've got more influence than purchasing power. SQL is the top language :) Windows7 the top OS. They spend lots on gadgets.

And I'm 'old', but not too badly paid :)

Benjol

6:27 AM

@waffles, thanks for your comment, I've updated a bit to try and make things clearer

Currently pondering what to do about answers containing requests for further information, from users who don't have sufficient rep to use comments.

waffles

no worries ... its just the the convert to comment thing is a bit of a double edged sword .... most of the time stuff should just be deleted

Benjol

@waffles, so you're thinking in terms of the moderator seeing the flag and opting to convert to a comment? Maybe we need to add a moderator policy too :)

Dev question, I didn't see a way to make my answers CW, is that no longer possible, or I don't have enough rep, or something specific to meta?

waffles

@Benjol true dat

Benjol

sorry?

Dan Grossman

6:56 AM

bout 6" of snow on the ground so far

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