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Jason C

12:01 AM

^ You can even make them up completely! Very convenient.

@Telkitty Which reminds me, I have to bite the bullet and finally learn python for this latest project.

I thought I'd be able to put it off forever, but alas.

bjb568

eww

Where me's brackets gone'd?

Jason C

Have you checked the right side of your keyboard? Sometimes they hang out there.

It's a bit of a rough neighborhood. But it does have a lot of character...s. HA HA HA.

bjb568

12:36 AM

…

Jason C

I said HA HA HA.

bjb568

:(

Ilmari Karonen

12:50 AM

@JasonC I'd star that, but I don't think your takeover of the starboard really needs more support.

bjb568

can i haz stawr?

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tchrist

bjb568

1:06 AM

:D

Quill - HAT MANIAC

user202362

This restaurant has wooden benches ... I think I might end up with bruises

tchrist

Jedi Kittens Strike Back

►

user202362

Waiting for late friend who booked the table

David

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tchrist

1:19 AM

@Telkitty I’m so sorry for your loss.

David

that is the three errors I get when I go to a user page's rep graph , meta post here

bjb568

Conclusion from life: nginx is not compatible with OS X.

user311725

2:18 AM

hi

user311725

i'm 99% sure edward edwards is when you get your first bounty on an answer made in Winter bash and it is outvoted by another answer

Quill - HAT MANIAC

@pops ^ care to comment

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Jason C

2:43 AM

@IlmariKaronen My presence on the starboard is directly proportional to the room's boringness.

@tchrist That was underappreciated.

user202362

Jason C

My new camera has "cuisine mode" for people like you.

tchrist

Pig testicles with string beans and shoe leather?

Jason C

But what are little girls made of?

Doorknob 冰

what did I just walk into

Jason C

2:46 AM

@Doorknob冰 Pig testicles.

Doorknob 冰

okay o.o

Jason C

Better watch where you're going.

They bruise easily.

(I imagine.)

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tchrist

amazon.com/Exploding-Kittens-About-Explosions-Sometimes/dp/…

user202362

3:01 AM

Why are you people so grumpy? I don't understand ...

Jason C

@Telkitty Don't make me kick you.

@tchrist For my entire life I've thought bombs were "diffused". Vocabulary ++.

tchrist

@Telkitty Frumpy friends.

Jason C

Oh hey I have a noob english question.

In "You listen to me", you=subject, listen=verb, me=object, right? What is "to" called?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

particle

tchrist

Preposition.

Doorknob 冰

3:16 AM

word

tchrist

The problem is that listen to isn't really separable.

Jason C

So "listen to" is the verb?

tchrist

> ?You should listen well to your mother.

There are all kinds of models for verbs.

As to what sorts of things they can or must take.

This is excruciatingly difficult for people trying to learn English who are always using the wrong preposition-thingy.

Jason C

Ok, then my real question is, in "Do you listen to me?", you=subject, listen to=action, me=object, what is "Do"? Is it part of the action?

Doorknob 冰

@JasonC It's a "helper verb" or whatever they're called

Auxiliary?

tchrist

3:19 AM

Do-support is complex, but yes, it's an auxiliary.

Jason C

It's excruciatingly difficult, period. Fortunately my brain just constructs English sentences without thinking about it.

Do people still diagram sentences? I remember having to make sentence diagrams in grade school.

tchrist

Also, me is not the direct object unless you construe the verb to be listen to. It's the object of the preposition to, but there is no real difference between that and the one in hear me; we just have to connect it with to when you use listen.

@JasonC Yes, but for real.

Pops

@ev3commander I am 100% sure that that guess does not qualify for Archimedes. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Jason C

It sort of screwed me up because if I actually think about a sentence I automatically try to imagine a diagram of it, and since I sucked at that, I just get confused. So I try not to think about sentences.

tchrist

Just feed it to a parser and have it spit out the parse tree for you.

Jason C

3:21 AM

@tchrist I think I understand.

tchrist

Do-support

In the grammar of English, the term do-support (or do-insertion) refers to the use of the auxiliary verb do, including its inflected forms does and did, to produce negated clauses and questions, as well as other constructions in which subject–auxiliary inversion is required. The verb "do" can be used as an auxiliary even in simple declarative sentences, where it usually serves to add emphasis, as in "I did shut the fridge." However in the negated and inverted clauses referred to above, it is used because the rules of English syntax permit these constructions only when an auxiliary is present. Apart...

Jason C

> To diagram your sentences you need Silverlight, please install it. Chrome cannot load Silverlight, please use any other browser.

Christ.

tchrist

Jason C

Oh god. I'm bookmarking that. If I start reading it now I have a feeling I'll end up in a wikipedia hole.

Pops

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Q: How does the phrase "used to" work, grammatically?

It is common to hear people say "used to" to indicate that they did something in the past but no longer do; for example, "I used to play basketball." How would "used to," used in that context, fit into a sentence diagram? What part of speech is it?

Jason C

3:24 AM

tchrist

That one leads to perplexing questions about didn’t used to.

Pops

I actually asked that question because "used to" is a whole separate can of worms, but the answers there may help you.

tchrist

Good pictures here:

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A: Building a phrase structure of "On the weekend ..."

EDIT: Given the sentence: On the weekend the children had fun. You can get a dependency parse (described at the bottom of this posting) that looks like this: Which I believe may be more of what you are looking for. The Berkeley parser produces this parse using its simple online interf...

Pops

And now it's time to fold clean laundry. NINJA POPS AWAAAAAAAAAAAY

Jason C

Oh man.

tchrist

3:28 AM

@JasonC You’re welcome to withdraw the question.

Jason C

Never.

I opened the can, now I have to eat the worms.

Or something.

What are you actually supposed to do with the worms after you open the can, anyways? Nobody ever seems to get that far.

tchrist

((((((........)))))))

OH NOES!

Worms unbalanced!

Ilmari Karonen

@JasonC Fish, obviously.

Jason C

I hate fishing.

tchrist

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A: Exact meaning of the Gandalf quote, "He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."?

It means: If you break something to find out what it is, then you have left the path of wisdom. You are misparsing the actual constituents here: “is has” is not part of the same constituent, but rather two separate pieces of two completely separate constituents. That is is actually part of ...

Jason C

3:38 AM

Lol

What it is has left the building.

tchrist

So yes, people still diagram sentences, although perhaps not quite as you were made to do.

Doorknob 冰

Why would you post an image of text ಠ_ಠ

tchrist

Constituent tree:

(S (NP (NP He)
       (SBAR (WHNP that)
             (S (VP breaks
                    (NP a thing)
                    (S (VP to
                           (VP find
                               (PRT out)
                               (NP (SBAR (WHNP what)
                                         (S (NP it)
                                            (VP is)))))))))))
   (VP has
       (VP left
           (NP (NP the path)
               (PP of
                   (NP wisdom)))))

Because I forgot I could use fixed format here.

Jason C

You make images of eyeballs with text, tchrist does the opposite.

Oh I think the ones I remember are called "Reed-Kellog diagrams", according to the internet.

I want to get that dependensee one working.

tchrist

I believe Gandalf is advising you not to open the can of worms to find out what it is.

Jason C

3:42 AM

As long as I don't break the worms I think I'm still on the path.

tchrist

That would take guts.

Doorknob 冰

That would also result in guts.

Jason C

Well, no worm guts, no worm glory.

FOR GREAT WORM GLORY

Doorknob 冰

Apologies for continuing Jason's reign on the starboard, but that's too good out of context not to star.

tchrist

@JasonC Þa se wyrm onwoc.

Jason C

3:46 AM

I like it in combo with "pig testicles with string beans and shoe leather".

Hey let's confuse the night shift taverners. Everybody say something disgusting. Ideally a sentence fragment.

Doorknob 冰

sd f

Jason C

("Night" according to me)

I'm going to cut my nails, there better be some nasty stuff here when I get back.

tchrist

recommends clippers

Jason C

You guys really let me down.

Doorknob 冰

That was quick.

Jason C

3:51 AM

I have a lot of experience cutting my nails.

Also I only have 2 fingers.

Doorknob 冰

That... would indeed help speed up the process

Jason C

Anyways it's bed time. By which I mean, it's time to decide between entering the do-support hole or binge watching MASH. Later.

(Option 3: Auto play on Amy Schumer's YouTube channel. Choices, choices...)

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Pops

4:07 AM

@SmokeDetector Too much of my life has been spent on SE. I first read that as "Directory Marketing Ideas for the Beauty Shog"

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bjb568

@JasonC looks like a cougar

Jason C

4:48 AM

Inside Amy Schumer - Abusive Couple

►

bjb568

Huh.

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UNIKITTY 2.0

5:10 AM

Chicken neck bone soup

Blech

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bjb568

I have 2 weeks with no time-sensitive obligations. Should I try a 26 hour sleep cycle?

Night!

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user202362

such a perfect day to be at the beach

user202362

The same thing can be said about sitting in air cond room, sipping fresh squeezed fruit juice & working on a killer app too!

rene

@Telkitty Nice sandy beaches, at first glance I say Zandvoort but the wetter isn't that great today...

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Quill - HAT MANIAC

10:17 AM

@Telkitty where's that? looks familiar

user202362

Narrabeen beach

Quill - HAT MANIAC

10:38 AM

oh, looks familiar to some of the GC's beaches

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Pandya

11:17 AM

I want to know: If once I get privileges for creating chat-room from one site, then I can create new chat-room at any site right?

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Pandya

@rene can you help me with chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4355717#4355717

rekire

sd gone^^

rene

@Pandya I believe you get the privilege per chat server. There are three: chat.se, chat.mse and chat.so. On at least one of their connected sites you need to have at least 20 rep to chat and 100 rep to create a chatroom

If you have only 100 rep on SO you can't create rooms on chat.mse or chat.se

Pandya

@rene Let me clarify: If we talk about chat.SE and If one has 100 rep on one site.SE.com (for not another server) then s/he can create chat-room for any site under server chat.SE right?

rene

11:31 AM

Yep, I think that is true. For that case you can create rooms except for MSE and SO

Pandya

@rene OK

Thanks

rene

yw

Pandya

Then I think: If one get privileges for creating chat-room on any site under SE server, then earning that privileges on another site (on SE server) by 100 rep. is meaning less!

I think privileges 1)talk in chat 2)create chat rooms & 3)create gallery chat rooms are not site specific!

I agree server specific as @rene informed

nicael

12:03 PM

SPAM stackoverflow.com/a/34380789

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rekire

@nicael you are faster then the bot :)

SouravGhosh

Helloc!!

Coming from Choose your own swag

Need some info on that q/a

Can anybody help?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

12:20 PM

sure... what's up?

SouravGhosh

Hi there

wanted to participate

not very sure of the requirements

can you help me there with some clarifications?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

sure

So, basically you need to choose an item that you would like to receive

and write a post on why you deserve to have it / what you would do with it

Some of the other users, however,

have been clever and wrote something different

Like this for example

You could do either, just make to list what item you would like

SouravGhosh

@Quill-HATMANIAC Thank you so much for your time and explanation

Quill - HAT MANIAC

No problem :-)

SouravGhosh

but I did not understand some things there, still

First of all, what are the items to choose from?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

12:26 PM

Ah, well, alongside some examples in the question

some photos were posted here

SouravGhosh

I saw the list of t shirt, fan badge and stickers

Quill - HAT MANIAC

let me just see if I can find them

SouravGhosh

is that all?

Yes, please

Shadow Wizard

I think you can ask for anything, even Plush Unicorn Doll

Quill - HAT MANIAC

yesterday, by hichris123

yesterday, by animuson

Feb 7 '14 at 21:16, by animuson

yesterday, by hichris123

Those were all the photos posted that I could find

now if only worldbuilding was out of beta I'd ask for a cthulhu vs sysadmins shirt

Specifically, though @SouravGhosh, you can look at each individual site's meta to find posts related to swag, and you might be able to find examples there :-)

SouravGhosh

12:30 PM

@Quill-HATMANIAC Thanks for the information

UNIKITTY 2.0

Sup

Quill - HAT MANIAC

there's another one

SouravGhosh

sadly, I'm only visible on Stack Overflow

that 200+ criteria.....

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Feel free to contribute on those sites if you really want :-)

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Q: Science Fiction and Fantasy Top User Swag

As a thank you for being awesome, if you have at least 1500 reputation (as of Feb 22) and are on page 1 or page 2 of … http://scifi.stackexchange.com/users?tab=reputation&filter=all … we'll be sending you a little care package shortly: Science Fiction and Fantasy t-shirt in your size Science ...

discussion swag

UNIKITTY 2.0

Lol

Quill - HAT MANIAC

12:33 PM

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Q: Arqade Top User Swag

Update: packages have all been sent. If you are not living in the USA, your package may take significantly longer to arrive. Your patience is much appreciated! However, if you have any issues or questions about your prize, please direct them to Katey, as she will be handling prize fulfillment fro...

discussion swag

SouravGhosh

I was wondering maybe I can ask something that will actually help me out in real life, you know

is that kind of post allowed?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Yeah, sure

SouravGhosh

Let me share my idea here first

Quill - HAT MANIAC

one of the other users wrote a post about a SE bag

that would help them carry stuff

Sure, go ahead

SouravGhosh

I'm a smoker and I smoke around 10+ cigarettes a day

NOw I'm trying to quit

but made no progress in that

:(

I was hoping I will ask a lighter with SO logo on it

so that every time I'll take that out, it will remind me of the promise

and I'm hoping it'll be helpful for me in the process of quitting the habit

I know this is a crazy idea, but is this kind of post welcome?

Quill - HAT MANIAC

12:38 PM

That sounds great! and yeah it's welcome

SouravGhosh

so can I go ahead and make a post???

:)

Quill - HAT MANIAC

Yeah, you should be okay to post

SouravGhosh

ok then, let me drop two paragraphs on that :)

thanks @Quill-HATMANIAC and @ShadowWizard :)

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Doorhandle

1:13 PM

in five hours i will be in germany, i am in switzerland, nine hours ago i was in miami, eleven hours ago i was in houston

in one hour my computer will run out of battery, and the damn power adapter thing was left in the suitcase

how are your lives

Quill - HAT MANIAC

that's a lot of planes

Doorhandle

yes

trying to get to Köl

i watched two movies and did not sleep at all

rekire

Köln?

Doorhandle

i am tired

yeah

Koln

My bad...

rekire

Not far away from here^^

Quill - HAT MANIAC

1:22 PM

I know that place... they hold a lot of gaming tournaments there

rekire

The GamesCon

Doorhandle

really? i... i am into competitive super smash bros melee, in fact i have been playing that on the planes...

emulated on my laptop

maybe i could ask my mom if i find a place .-.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

I see a lot of counter strike tournaments there but I don't know about super smash bros

Doorhandle

.-. i find csgo boring...

imgur.com/RqmUIAA

thats my friend

he got to go to a thing called Forte 3 today

and he met a guy named sfat (on the left), who is ranked #10 in the world in smash melee

he also met a guy named wobbles, who is ranked #1 ice climbers

im so jelly i was forced to go to germany for 8 days .-.

Quill - HAT MANIAC

-_-

I wouldn't mind getting into super smash bros more

Doorhandle

1:28 PM

@Quill-HATMANIAC If you ever think about it we can netplay (emulation with p2p) :)

Quill - HAT MANIAC

wait you don't have a 3ds?

SouravGhosh

@Quill-HATMANIAC Hey there, I've posted it finally. see here. :)

Doorhandle

oh

you mean smash 4

yeah i have a 3ds and wii u i also play that competitively

i was referencing melee tho XD but yeah i'd be done to play wii u/3ds sometime... i just have to get down to replacing the circle pad cause it kinda broke

very stiff

wd40 did not do my bidding

Quill - HAT MANIAC

lol

Doorhandle

ok, deleted that imgur image now cause was sent to me privately

Quill - HAT MANIAC

1:30 PM

Doorhandle

i've just been overwhelmed because they're adding bayonetta... from a rated m game... but they didnt want to add a tharja trophy because it would make the game t-rated

Quill - HAT MANIAC

I was really excited to pick up pokemon mystery dungeon cover plates in Japan, but I really wanted to get the Xenoblade one

Doorhandle

ill be honest with you, i didn't know who shulk was before smash 3ds

Quill - HAT MANIAC

the new xenoblade game looks really nice

Doorhandle

yeah

cant get it, tho... requires new 3ds

but if coming to wii u then yay

Quill - HAT MANIAC

1:36 PM

the new 3ds are cool

Doorhandle

btw if i randomly stop responding its because my hour of free internet is up

yeah i should get one since im too lazy to replace my circle pad

oh yay hairboat's revenge... but i like this hat

Quill - HAT MANIAC

lol

it's weird, they force you to use parental controls

even if you're old enough to not need them

Doorhandle

wait really?

so be the parent of yourself

Quill - HAT MANIAC

they force a pin at you

yeah

Doorhandle

i wish they'd make melee hd remix or something... that game was so fast and technical, now I feel like I'm just playing speed chess and it gets so much more frustrating when i lose

does anyone have the old wheel of blame jsfiddle link?

forget it ill look in transcript

Quill - HAT MANIAC

1:42 PM

jsfiddle.net/Ldvwp8uv/1/embedded/result

Doorhandle

no i mean the old one

i found it

jsfiddle.net/AYPpF/112/embedded/result

2 years agoish i created this

an updated version of the wheel of blame that gets the people in the chat and puts them on the wheel

but programfox put the wrong version that didnt work and a big mess so it went back to the old one .-.