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11:01 PM

If it were a programming joke it should be, "then you goto a fully graduated site"

drachenstern

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException pedantics ... bah

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yes sorry. I'm tired and burnt out, jokes may be lame ;-)

Moshe

jQuery question.

Dan Grossman

hi tavern folk

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I fixed the major bugs, I rolled back the non-working feature. I may just break for the day

Hey there @Dan, how goes?

Moshe

11:03 PM

why would .val() return Undefined on a textbox with a matching ID?

Shog9

someone typed "Undefined" into it

Dan Grossman

+1

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LOL

@Moshe Sorry... I use $F()

(because I need more jQuery)

Moshe

?

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$F() is the prototype.js equiv

Shog9

11:06 PM

Test your assumptions, Moshe: verify that it's finding the element with that ID first off

$("#mytextbox").length > 0

The NeedsMoarJquery Exception

I was going to suggest that, I swear

Also, use firebug :-)

(Or KHTML console)

drachenstern

ironicsans.com/2011/01/idea_crowdfund_a_mission_to_pu.html

Shog9

then verify it's actually a textbox:

Dan Grossman

this chat is sure error-ful according to chrome's javascript console

Moshe

ok ride leaves now

Dan Grossman

11:07 PM

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@Moshe have a good one

@DanGrossman /blame @balpha

Shog9

hum - firefox crashed on me

back, in Chrome

$("#mytextbox")[0].tagName === "input"

then verify that you can pull the value directly from the element

$("#mytextbox")[0].value

then file a bug report

Dan Grossman

coming along...

drachenstern

huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/05/…

thestar.com/news/world/article/…

Dan Grossman

2012

Shog9

11:12 PM

It's the end-times: crabs lying down with birds and sleeping with the fishes

Dan Grossman

it is near

alien jesus will soon return from space to take the chosen ones with him

the rest shall die in the apocalypse

drachenstern

@DanGrossman I wonder if the ancients got lazy or knew something we didn't

see also the missing book of Nostradamus (or lost text or something)

Shog9

@drachenstern can't it be both?

Dan Grossman

^ the lord's space ark

Shog9

Hey! That's my electric razor!

drachenstern

11:15 PM

@Shog9 seems to be a contradiction in terms. I believe I'm all for that one. Sure

waffles

hi there

do you have a chance to play with the changes to the /review path on SO

Shog9

@drachenstern I mean, I calculated the exact date of the apocalypse like three years ago, but d'ya think I've gotten around to publishing that article on it yet? Ha!

drachenstern

Is ATTs LTE the same as Verizons LTE?

Dan Grossman

I tried to find a good javascript class for date/time formatting today, didn't find anything, stackoverflow suggestions were buggy or nonexistant, had to write my own

radp

@waffles link and I shalt click

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11:17 PM

@DanGrossman aw man!!!

I have a great one!

Why didn't you ask in here? :-(

drachenstern

@DanGrossman there really isn't a good one is there? ;)

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(Or, did you?)

Dan Grossman

I didn't, what's yours?

drachenstern

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException go make a post and answer it young one

Shog9

@drachenstern do you mean, "based on the same technologies" or "hardware compatible"?

waffles

11:17 PM

stackoverflow.com/review/…

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@DanGrossman Sec, lemme finish this update and I'll look it up

drachenstern

@waffles I will in about three hours, does that help at all?

waffles

try the flag for removal button ... it is AWESOME

drachenstern

@Shog9 hardware compat

radp

@waffles Cool, one post in there is mine.

waffles

11:18 PM

its just the list of shortest posts

it needs a better filter for max hilarity

drachenstern

@Shog9 from reading WP it seems that it's hardware compat between the two revs

radp

@waffles What's the difference between the posts that have "flag for removal" and posts that don't?

waffles

like this stackoverflow.com/review/…

@radp has to be score 0 or lower

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@drachenstern Wait, who you calling "young one"?, LOL

waffles

don't want to make it easy to flag good stuff for removal

drachenstern

11:19 PM

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I'm pretty sure you're under 30

Shog9

@drachenstern yeah, I think it's possible... But whether either company will bother allowing cross-platform hardware is... debatable.

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@drachenstern By less than 365 days

waffles

HELPFULL stackoverflow.com/review/…

Dan Grossman

drachenstern

@Shog9 well of course but that's what I meant :p

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException then I'm roughly two years older than you, thus making you "young one" from here :p

radp

11:20 PM

Feature request: acknowledge the "new" bit next to the blog.

waffles

AMAZING stackoverflow.com/review/…

5

drachenstern

I'll flip 2^5 in July

waffles

LOL stackoverflow.com/review/…

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@drachenstern LOL, I thought young was a relative measure rather than an absolute one ;-)

waffles

"LOL Piligrim ... yes, I'm a girl =) ... and nop... I'm venezuelan... !!!"

amazing answer there !!!

drachenstern

11:21 PM

lol, perhaps it is so still

Dan Grossman

> lol george stop skipping my lectures

Shog9

I would love to believe there's a story behind that one

drachenstern

All I know is I'm gonna try and sneak out.

I need this for me for later and I'm too lazy to do it another way, so you guys benefit from my laziness (probably not) blog.hirelite.com/technical-job-post-tips-for-the-desperate :p

sneaking out now ;) [there's exactly two of us here]

radp

Sell Rolex Watches

1

:|

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ok @Dan, looking up date lib now

Dan Grossman

11:27 PM

thanks

waffles

@radp poof gone

radp

@waffles man I didn't even have the time to flag for mod attention.

The NeedsMoarJquery Exception

@DanGrossman It was by Baron Schwartz, looking for the download url / homepage...

@DanGrossman code.google.com/p/flexible-js-formatting/source/browse/trunk/…

Dan Grossman

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Thanks I'll check it out

radp

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A: Should you administer IQ tests to programmers during the interview process?

lol u guys are fools i use one in my interview process and i have the most amazing talented team ever they have made me wildly wealthy

Dan Grossman

11:30 PM

lovely username too

radp

Bah, I made it to page 2 without finishing my mod flags.

I suck at this.

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A: Glassfish, railo and coldbox - messed up links?

I have 2 openings for a ColdFusion/Coldbox Developer. Check out www.mojointeractive.com to apply. This is an amazing opportunity, spread the word. Thanks, Jamie Lyn Kirchner

Dan Grossman

Thanks for spreading the word

radp

> You can only flag for moderator attention 12 times per day

Success!

now I wonder if I should do the same on Gaming.

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@waffles that review link is amazing!!! Thanks!!!

Moshe

ugh

the SU chat is soo inactive

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11:45 PM

It misses Sathya

Moshe

Where is @Sathya?

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I think he's with family right now

Not sure, haven't talked to him in a few days. I should check and see how he is!

Moshe

ok

so, I have a problem.

My friend has an HP laptop and he did some stuff to it and it bwoke

seriously though.

Shog9

I hear Ubuntu is good...

you should totally tell him to try that

Moshe

@Shog9 - windows is acting crazy and I doubt Ubuntu would work well with his machine

radp

11:49 PM

@Shog9 and become his support slave for life?

Shog9

No, that's the beauty of Ubuntu! It has its own SE site...

Moshe

He updated an intel chipset driver and then the machine has been "blue screen" ing and whatnot

Shog9

system restore

hit F8 while booting

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@Moshe Ubuntu works great on machines Windows rejects

Shog9

and select "last known good"

Moshe

11:50 PM

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException - Windows didn't, Intel did.

radp

it'll probably restore the vìrus you cleared up for him a few weeks ago and break a couple apps too.

Moshe

@Shog9 I believe it was tried already.

Shog9

but yeah, giving him ubuntu and pointing him at Ubuntu.SE sounds like a great way to kill two birds with one stone: he gets a working OS, and you get rid of support duty

Moshe

I used to "be a PC".

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@Moshe Intel driver for Windows, no?

radp

11:51 PM

now you're a mac PC, I guess?

Moshe

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException - yes

Shog9

@Moshe does it boot in safe mode?

Moshe

@Shog9 - yes

It does

Shog9

then boot in safe mode and delete the intel driver

Moshe

I just backed up, cleared the windows event logs

@Shog9 - delete?!

It was an update.

Shog9

11:52 PM

roll it back

Moshe

I think they rollled it back too.

Shog9

or uninstall

failing that, uninstall and then manually delete the actual files that comprise the driver

Moshe

@Shog9 - those files would make a difference?

Shog9

if uninstalling didn't work, yes

Moshe

the event log is really weird.

Lots of strange drivers being referenced in the event logs.

Why would an Intel driver be non-essential to the system?

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11:54 PM

I really think Ubuntu is the answer to this problem :-)

@Moshe An Intel what driver?

An Intel sound card driver is nonessential

Shog9

Because without it Windows reverts to the built-in drivers and works again (though perhaps sub-optimally)

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Well, unless you want sound...

Moshe

Intel friend doesn't know chipset driver, I guess graphics

Shog9

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException If you really want sound, you don't want Intel sound hardware

2

ditto for graphics

Dan Grossman

Gray or white background?

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11:55 PM

@Shog9 Yes, I know this :-)

@DanGrossman #eee

Shog9

white

doesn't look as good, but saves on ink

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LOL.

Moshe

See, we can get to login in not safe mode

Dan Grossman

hmm..

Moshe

now it loaded...

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11:56 PM

@Moshe sounds like a startup program error then maybe?

(I debug windows machines far less than linux or mac)

Moshe

@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException - Yes, it does

Shog9

y'know, Windows will produce a crash dump on bluescreen if you let it

you can actually look at whatever is failing

Moshe

@Shog9 - Where can I find the said log?

I knew about that btw, just never bothered reading it.

Shog9

depends on the OS version

Moshe

And there seems to be a slew of issues

7 (the version where the name looks like the corner of the flag)

Shog9

11:59 PM

try c:\windows\minidump

Moshe

iastor.sys is one of the bluescreen stuff

@Shog9 - What is in the dump? Am I using notepad to read it?

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