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2:24 PM

New SRE: Xavier Nicollet

user259867

Interesting reputation graph. Noblesse oblige

Now you just need to find the user with the matching vote graph.

2:41 PM

New profile pic comin' right in.

Yay

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: What's the formula for getting 3-stars in a cup? by fuckshit on gaming.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: Big gap between downloading the html and the css WebPagetest.org by Pt. Raman Sharma on stackoverflow.com

@SmokeDetector Fredley's fault I can't help him with that

Also unidoggy

Java's class casting of subclasses is really screwed up.

@bjb568 You want a knife?

2:44 PM

s/'s class casting of subclasses //

:P

A: jQuery scrollTop() does not work in scrolling DIV on mobile browsers, alternatives?

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Try using jQuery's .animate method: $('.div').animate({ scrollTo: x; }); Where x is equal to the position of the div you want to scroll to the top of.

@ProgramFOX yeah…

What should be done with that? It is kinda wrong...

See my comment

Actually, it's this: $('.div').animate({ scrollTop: x }); — UNICYCLEZ R DE BEST IN DE HERE 1 min ago

Andy

downvote it

stackoverflow.com/questions/11914962/… another declined flag :/

IMO all these are not answers

2:46 PM

LOL

Whine on MSO please

Andy

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE wait...the difference between the two is scrollTo vs scrollTop?

lol no

@Andy And the semi-colon after the x

@SterlingArcher NARQ too.

$('.div').animate({ scrollTo: x; });

               ^      ^

2:47 PM

> Where's the main office?

- Senior student who had been here for 6 years

This, my friends, is poor architectural design.

Andy

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE Ah. Yeah, Downvote and your comment are good

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE Good luck getting this to exactly show 'to'.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. NOOO

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE I jk meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/311733/…

ROFL

2:52 PM

You made me remember of this one ...

lol

link please

NAA: stackoverflow.com/a/34090670/3278662

??? stackoverflow.com/a/34090754/3278662

Blech: Remarque

Another audit >_<

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE wait, what link? to the hacker badge.

@Derpy Yes

3:08 PM

stackoverflow.com/a/34090905/774078 NAA

dammit

Hi. Im Eyeballcode. Im 13 years old. Ive heard that bjb is also 13 years old. Ive been typing like this my whole life. Ive been making peoples eyes hurt. Are youre eyes hurting yet? I havent even started poking youre eyes, so wait first. It`s gonna hurt even more.

lol who voted Unclear on my meta thread? It's quite clear what is being asked xD

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE I don't have an eye.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. oh ok

Squishes fly first

@SterlingArcher It's unclear whether you want sandwiches or pizza as lunch by writing that post.

3:13 PM

lol

The irony is those are literally my lunch options for today

Stop that

you deserve pizza after a long day

@SterlingArcher You should explain that in comments.

I just don't think they'll get it man D:

Don't you double ping me!

@SterlingArcher Chrome is the traitor.

Or maybe I should blame balpha.

3:17 PM

There's a combination pun here somewhere but I can't find it

blampha?

No... that's just trying too hard.

@SterlingArcher Sounds Greek.

He's obviously into greek

3:29 PM

stackoverflow.com/a/34091440/774078 so is this NAA then?

Just when I think I get the NAA rules, I get a declined flag. Gotta be sure now..

@SterlingArcher No, it's a link in a chat message.

>=(

berserk

)=<

Jokes aside, I'm not too sure but isn't it comment-ish?

I'm not an avid SO participant.

Yeah, it makes no attempt to answer the question

user259867

3:32 PM

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. !//blame

user259867

!!/blame

@NormalHuman It's Lafexlos's fault.

@NormalHuman It's Shog9's fault.

@NormalHuman No since whenever I've asked Smokey, it has blamed me.

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, email in answer: How do banks handle post-dated checks deposited via the ATM? by Sonia Wayne on money.stackexchange.com

user259867

3:35 PM

@bjb568 phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=656

Q: How can I report a spam email that has never sent anything to me?

AGAIN???

Previously they used gmail

8

We just bumped into some spam on security SE. We mod nuked it, but I wanted to report the email address there. I found this, but it seems that you the person needs to have mailed you spam before: I would like to report a Gmail user who has sent messages that violate the Gmail Program Policies...

user259867

@NormalHuman This may vary between countries, but I don't think grad students normally live in dorms...

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How to make a cartoon style custom dialog by clovisharry on stackoverflow.com

@NormalHuman LOL I haven't seen that one.

user259867

@SmokeDetector There is a link-at-end filter for answers: short answer, link with empty path at the end... but it also requires the link to be in a separate paragraph. This is why this answer didn't match.

3:41 PM

@servy Anything that can be flagged NAA can be flagged VLQ. — bjb568 30 mins ago

@BJB no.

user259867

Technically*, posts with positive score cannot be flagged VLQ.

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Python: Parsing Html with "fake" brake lines by MovieBall on stackoverflow.com

That too.

user259867

I'm tired of the arguments about flags dancing on the head of a pin. My solution: if it's a question, flag VLQ, if it's an answer, flag NAA.

@SmokeDetector why?

3:45 PM

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Body - Position 1709-1716: fucking

@SmokeDetector ignore-

Appropriate 'about me'?

Selvin, Bierutów, Dolny Śląsk

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user259867

You may have asked it, but 50 other people upvoted it; I consider it a reflection of the zeitgeist on Stack Overflow and Stack Exchange. We've traditionally ignored chat when it comes to defining moderation duties, and the result has been a set of wildly conflicting ideas and ideals when it comes to how chat is treated... Both by those who use it, and by those who probably should use it. It has become, frankly, an embarrassment to many. — Shog9 ♦ 7 mins ago

> I love trolling lazy noobs

Ouch

I lost 3 rep from DVing people. Total rep today: 3 ;'/

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE The hacker badge exist only as a transient entity. As thus, I can't really provide a link that would work for you too.

3:49 PM

Whines

It is a Javascript+GreaseMonkey thing.

user259867

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. within the wide range of what users are free to put in that box. meta.stackexchange.com/a/231362

rekire

@NormalHuman funny do you use in the US the word Zeitgeist? That is German.

@NormalHuman Bah, is that Jaydles's post?

I'm not looking at those pictures again.

@rekire Are you yet another German I met? :)

rekire

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. I think so ;)

user259867

3:52 PM

@rekire Yes, afaik Google popularized it with their Google Zeitgeist feature. I wouldn't use it in a bar conversation, but I know it.

@rekire Englishers use a variety of languages to speak English. Most common ones they use are French, Spanish, German, Italian, Portuguese etc.

English is so hospitable to changes, unlike other languages.

How else would it have become the international language so easily?

user259867

It seems that Google dropped the word eventually, renaming the feature to Year in Search

rekire

I know some more words like Rucksack or Doppeltgänger which I found in an English book. I know that other languages influence others but that I know only very view cases where this happens.

lol I love how the mods more or less see the main language chat rooms as a disgrace

But in the end nothing is really done about it

Which isn't a bad thing, it's just a cycle of user/mod talking that leads to the same results xD

user259867

Implement a "export to Slack" button...

3:56 PM

@rekire Of course all languages influence each other less or more. But English isn't reluctant to change, accepting new vocabulary etc. unlike, like, three fourths of all the human languages that exist.

user259867

SF users decided a while back they didn't want to talk about things (such as their employers) in a public chatroom, permanently logged in a searchable transcript. So they stopped doing that.

It's also cultural. Some viewpoints, like ones found in South Asian cultures, state that any foreign word, if used by a native speaker, pollutes and degrades the language. Of course, they feel their mother tongue is being invaded by English.

@SterlingArcher what do you mean nothing is done about it?

Hey when did Tavern turn into Language Overflow? O.o

A couple people get suspended, fits are pitched, but in the end, the chats just revert to their old trolly selves

@bluefeet in no way am I intending that as an insult to mods btw.

Love you guys.

but brb

Q: Lifestyle choices. Need help

3:59 PM

-1

I'm in a lifestyle and I'm scared to tell my family. It's a daddy dom/ Little girl life style, also known as DDLG. Please help me.

discussion

ROFL internet is wonderful.

They're in a life style and they think people who nag about bad code and bugs can help them.

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: What are the differences between cherubim and seraphim? by Jelz on christianity.stackexchange.com

@SterlingArcher well part of the problem is chat was ignored for quite a while. Moderating it can't solely fall on the SO mods, some of the responsibility is on the room owners to keep things clean. We are actively working on a few things to hopefully improve it

user259867

sigh and I just wanted for things to get pinned/unpinned when it makes sense...

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE What?

@bjb568 How some people don't know apostrophe and backtick

4:07 PM

@bluefeet just a thought, but maybe include ROs in this working?

To an extent at least

@SterlingArcher With only 18 SO mods and hundreds of chatrooms, they can't be every where all the time. Some of the ownership has to go to the owners of the rooms.

@bluefeet I still think the RO powers are too limited.

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE ok

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. It's not really too limited. IMO part of the problem is they are invested in the community/room and sometimes are hesitant to reign in a conversation that has gone off the rails.

Yeah, I know everyone can become an RO and that's a problem, but real RO's have a problem with moderating when there's real trouble going on.

4:14 PM

@bluefeet @SterlingArcher It is evident that in the latest day there have been a whole lot of chat related "incidents", with a majority of them actually begin room users discovery they were actually supposed to follow the "Be Nice" rules regardless of they (uncouth) "Room Cultures". It is also pretty evident that the staff is more actively monitoring the situation, and this resulted in an increase of direct intervention by the SE crew members.

We also know that @Shog9 is working on a revised policy for the chat room, one that I personally hope will make clear that while a bad word can slip in sometime (not if you are a pony, but you aren't all so lucky) really bad "jokes" should and must be avoided.

Braiam

I think that the only addition that Shog should make is "our rules > your room rules"

@Braiam If I was the mod here, I would use the old version we had on my old UO server "Thank you, that one here is the door. Please close it as you leave". Luckily, Shog do not banish bad user to the moon on the first infraction, so he is willing to try a soft approach.

I hope his trust will be valued.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. RO are a little of a strange case. It is weird - each of them is capable to kick out of RO each other one.

I wonder if having a dedicated role could be better.

Community elected chat moderators? With the only purpose to keep chat polite?

I don't know, feel like an overkill.

Also, RO's should be able to delete messages of their chat. Ideally, if mods are too worried of misuse, the delete time would be limited to a day or less, and too much deletions would raise an auto-flag.

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Create a new room. Call it "Shog9 Lair". Move the bad message there. Wait till Shog notices them. Party.

@Derpy The point is to avoid waiting.

4:27 PM

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Nope. The real point should that folks shouldn't be tolerating that.

@Derpy Or, if I wait long enough, the world will end and I wouldn't have to worry about them.

I can live with the Shadow Den posting an uncouth word in their Word Association Game. I can't really avoid begin worried when an entire chat room seem to think that the one that flagged that homophobia is fine and funny to have.

user259867

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. ROs move messages to Trash room, or Sandbox or whatever it's called.

user259867

I don't know if the existence of Trash is a sanctioned use of the chat, but there it is.

@NormalHuman Trashcan, or Crashtan, so it's called. But it's not enough sometimes and it's not worth bothering a mod sometimes.

@NormalHuman There are two trashcans. One is public (for ROs), and one is seekrit (for mods).

Did I mention something seeekrit? Definitely not.

4:37 PM

We don't have a moderation problem. The problem isn't that mods are incapable or don't react soon enough. We have a people problem. People think they are entitled to act that way. You will have to reform those people.

I don't know how, but trust me... unless they change we will go nowhere.

feature-request Add ability for mods to change people.

> 13392

> The change of you winning the lottery is lower than the chance of you getting killed on your way there

LOL

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. K thx

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE *chance

15 Healthy Foods That Are Actually Unhealthy

Still

►

Lol

Shog should stop eating trail mix

4:54 PM

@UNICYCLEZRDEBESTINDEHERE WTH is that video thumbnail?

Some pear

Clickbait?

dunno

xkcdBot

Today's xkcd comic (Colds):

The contagious period ends right around when you start to sound sick over the phone, which is probably evidence of cold viruses evolving to spread optimally in the workplace.

Wow wut

??

A: Why isn't water an ionic compound?

5:25 PM

-2

It is ionic:D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How does one approach designing an amplifier using BJTs to drive an 8 ohm speaker? by EEPRO on electronics.stackexchange.com (@PeterJ)

^ LOL

Is it just me or are VLQ posters also more imaginative due to Winter Bash?

5:53 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Where can I find the paper by Guy Robin? by Irwansyah on math.stackexchange.com

user259867

6:05 PM

Unfortunately, as you probably already know, people

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6:30 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: How much of brain power consumption is for information by Seanny123 on cogsci.stackexchange.com

Braiam

@SmokeDetector mm?

@SmokeDetector why

@Braiam Title - Position 1-24: How much of brain power

LOL

6:50 PM

> 13270

7:05 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: How can I sync my Google Work Calendar with my Android Phone by a deleted user on android.stackexchange.com (@AndrewT.)

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: AUTO FOCUS OF NIKON D7000 IS NOT WOKING by Radhakrishnan on photo.stackexchange.com (@Unihedron)

7:21 PM

WTH why doesn't Smokey report stuff from chem?

It should.

@ProgramFOX Would smokey detect phone numbers in question body?

I don't remember, use !!/test to find out

!!/test +255785197228

> Numbers-only title, phone number detected in title
----------
Title - Phone number: +255785197228
Title - Position 1-14: +255785197228

7:23 PM

Not body.

OK that explains it.

!!/test It is ionic:D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

> Few unique characters in body
----------
Post - Contains 8 unique characters

A: Why isn't water an ionic compound?

OK @Pro Smokey didn't report that one.

2 hours ago, by Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.

-2

It is ionic:D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

Hmm...

cannot give an explanation for that

@Normal also please check.

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ROI MATLAB PALMPRINT by A.LEE on stackoverflow.com

8:07 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Death by entropy by John Jennings on physics.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector tpu- LOL this was fun to read.

Ilmari Karonen

8:26 PM

> Entropy is a mathematical illusion put on us by the veil (the evil infinite) and the scientists for the most part do not accept eternal life as promulgated by the Catholic version of the Nicene Creed: the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son.

o_O

@IlmariKaronen Don't worry. That answer is Lord's problem, not ours.

8:46 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: TOOLTIP CONTAINER SIZE - MATERIALIZE by abelsao on stackoverflow.com

9:26 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO SEND DATA FROM ONE TABLE TO ANOTHER TABLE OR FORMS IN ORACLE APEX? by Danish Khan on stackoverflow.com

9:38 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: how to make a pop up window advertisement by غريب الشمال on stackoverflow.com

9:48 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: What's the proper elitist equivalent for the word slut? by Frosty The DopeMan on english.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector ignore-

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: A person who criticizes his own homeland/city/country? by Droid on english.stackexchange.com

@Inf

user259867

10:38 PM

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. The text contains 12 unique characters, which is just 1 above the current threshold. Perhaps the threshold should go up to 15. The test result is different because the test string did not include <p> </p> html tags, which are present in the source. Instead of removing those tags, I subtract 4 from the character count. I'll redo this so that code behavior makes more sense... @ProgramFOX

11:26 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: What (if any) is the relationship between Gwyneth and Gwen Cooper? by joseph on scifi.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu-

11:39 PM

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[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How to go from cracked APK to java code? 1-click tool cracked my app by safin dafin on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Does Android keep the .apk files? if so where? by dafin safin on stackoverflow.com

rene

For a moment I thought they dropped the duck in the deep fryer :/

Ilmari Karonen

@SmokeDetector Wow, that's a lot of spam. Should we maybe blacklist crackedapkfull.com?

sd 3tpu-

user259867

@IlmariKaronen Undo did that while reporting this spam.

Ilmari Karonen

Ah, good. (Also, I should probably get some sleep...)

rene

Yeah, good idea, I'll have a hot chocolat and I'm off ...