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5:01 PM

@bob spammers normally don't respond to comments, accept answers, state something was useful. You have blacklisted a normal user IMHO.

bob

3 mins ago, by bob

@MiceElf look at their other question also. seems that they're trying to get help with creating scam websites, while spamming said website

rene

Maybe they must be linked to self-promotion in the help but that is about it

bob

@rene question should still be deleted regardless, and even if it's not spam it's off-topic

rene

@bob I'm capable of reading the transcript and judge the posts in that profile. I inform that I come to a different conclusion.

@bob But flagging as spam and trying to get more users to do so is evil.

Brad Larson

Not entirely sure that's spam. Think it is indeed a user pointing to their site, saying "what's wrong with this"?

rene

5:04 PM

A spam flag has severe consquences

Brad Larson

Real helpful edit there: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/9770089

bob

hm

bluefeet

@BradLarson um @rene @Undo what were you thinking?

bob

just did a Google search, apparently they do spam but they do it discretely

rene

@bluefeet about approving that edit?

bluefeet

5:07 PM

@rene yes

rene

That is an helpful tag? It is the root cause of the issue

And as that posts now gets attention from users who think it is spam which I think it isn't I want to get that post in such a state that it will survive and the OP will not get spam flags on that post

bob

edit-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/32998218/…

dupe-flag-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/32998189/… duplicate of stackoverflow.com/questions/27334580/…

rene

@bluefeet is the issue settled or did I made a wrong turn somewhere?

Brad Larson

It might help you goo.gl/X5x6sl — Anil Singh Aug 28 at 9:58

Oh, for Pete's sake, he was spamming in comments, too?

rene

5:23 PM

@BradLarson clever ....

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: BSOD SYSTEM THREAD EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED by Stephen Cioffi on superuser.com

rene

@SmokeDetector ignore-

SmokeDetector

5:37 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, phone number detected in title: Microsoft Outlook 1800-213-2171 Tech Support Help Desk Number by J cort on askubuntu.com

DragonLord the Fiery

sd trueu-

rene

I guess wrinkles

sd why?

SmokeDetector

@rene [:4061124] Title - Position 52-60: wrinkles

rene

\o/

2

I win

vaultah

:D

rene

5:44 PM

@SmokeDetector fpu-

SmokeDetector

6:12 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: How can bulletproof hosting be feasible? by Manumit on security.stackexchange.com

rene

@SmokeDetector ignore-

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: VideoJS not working on mobile by muaz on stackoverflow.com

Undo

@bluefeet Seems like a helpful edit, relevant tag, on a probably-not-spam post.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Why can iron and dryer both make clothes with less wrinkles? by Tim on physics.stackexchange.com

rene

6:35 PM

sd ignore-

bob

naa stackoverflow.com/a/17886067/2422013

S.L. Barth

Ah. My custom flag on that abusive user has been deemed helpful.

bjb568

@bob both answers are

S.L. Barth

(Our rules-violating friend who was suspended earlier today. My custom flag was only about the edits, had not seen the other rules violations at the time I raised the flag).

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Why do the names of most chemical elements end with -um or -ium? by lof dira on chemistry.stackexchange.com

bob

6:41 PM

actually, that whole question can be closed

bjb568

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M no strong correlation

S.L. Barth

....just hope those edit approvers are also looked at. Found 3 who approved, and all three have a long, long list of "Approve" in their reviews...

rene

@SmokeDetector sd tpu-

rude

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: PHP method of loading remotely stored files by Hanny Wijayanti on stackoverflow.com

Undo

That's spam

sd tpu-

bob

7:00 PM

on Meta SO:

0

Q: What do we do with NAA answers which are accepted?

I was attempting to find an answer to another user's question when I came across this answer: I asked on the SOCVR chat whether it is considered NAA as it is the accepted answer, so it obviously helped the OP. The answer I got back was that it is indeed NAA, but: Doubt you would get a mod ...

user259867

7:18 PM

Good catch, Smokey.

SmokeDetector

7:42 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Need your assistance to upload text file automatically in mysql DB by Ananda on dba.stackexchange.com

S.L. Barth

@SmokeDetector Profile says "~6 people reached"....

I always thought that the "people reached" statistic was inflated, but this proves it.

user259867

Remember Google Sites?

S.L. Barth

@MiceElf Not really, actually.

SmokeDetector

8:33 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer, blacklisted user: Paragon NTFS for Mac 14 doesn't see NTFS disk (OS X 10.11 El Capitan) by Paragon Software Support on apple.stackexchange.com

DragonLord the Fiery

sd ignore-

It's not the best answer, but as long as people self-disclose them selves, it isn't spam unless there's a pattern of solely linking / supporting. +1 since the answer here is specific as well as pointing out legitimate support options. — bmike ♦ 5 hours ago

user259867

!!/rmblu apple.stackexchange.com/users/151013/paragon-software-support

SmokeDetector

@MiceElf User removed from blacklist (151013 on apple.stackexchange.com).

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in title: Why does YaST now show lines as lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq? by tmsimont on superuser.com

hichris123

@SmokeDetector fp-

DragonLord the Fiery

sd falseu

SmokeDetector

8:42 PM

@DragonLordtheFiery [:4062175] Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

bjb568

@SmokeDetector lq :p

SmokeDetector

9:00 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Magma Cube Spawners in the Overworld? by Double D on gaming.stackexchange.com

Patrick Hofman

9:51 PM

Anyone willing to undelete this positively scored question that was auto-deleted for unclear reasons? meta.stackexchange.com/q/256534/245360

bjb568

_@ﾉ¨

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in body: Delete this post irrelivant by Basic on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in body: How to modify string returned from super function by Basic on stackoverflow.com

Patrick Hofman

Flagged that user

user259867

@PatrickHofman Voted to undelete. I guess the user was destroyed by an employee... no idea why. The post, though deleted two days ago, does not show up in recently deleted, meta.stackexchange.com/…

user259867

10:06 PM

Maybe someone was clicking too fast destroying a wave of spammers, and... you know...

Nick Alexeev

In the not too distance past, SE's stance towards spammers have changed. Promotional posts became acceptable if the spammer discloses his interest.
Why did the attitude "I'm a proud spammer, chek out my stuff" suddenyl became acceptable?
Is SE planning to do *sponsored posts* and use that as a revenue vehicle?

user259867

Speaking of the devil,

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Are laws about sex outside marriage less rigorously enforced in Dubai for people on layovers? by Ethan Melanie on travel.stackexchange.com

user259867

@NickAlexeev Spam flags are handled by mods, not by SE employees. Unless we assume that mods are mind-controlled by employees, I imagine the perceived change is site-specific.

user259867

The article meta.stackexchange.com/help/promotion describes the SE position.

Nick Alexeev

10:11 PM

@MiceElf [reading that ... ]

Patrick Hofman

@mice thanks

user163250

11:02 PM

user163250

By Mikelo ([1]) [CC BY-SA 2.0 (creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)], via Wikimedia Commons

user163250

I think that's my cousin.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: What answer for this qustion ?? by user278031 on math.stackexchange.com

S.L. Barth

11:17 PM

@SmokeDetector fp-

The link is to a logfile on pastebin.

user163250

Looks like someone fell asleep,

user163250

-6

Q: What answer for this qustion ??

a/a+b = 0.5 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz more information for this answer for this questions

calculus linear-algebra abstract-algebra

josilber

^ a = b, a != 0 -- boom algebra.

Nice, tagged calculus

user163250

@SmokeDetector anyone with edit privileges want to make that title more descriptive so that it doesn't read as an all-caps title? cc @DragonLordtheFiery

user163250

Like "Error: BSOD SYSTEM THREAD EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED"?

DragonLord the Fiery

11:27 PM

@Cupcake Done.

0

Q: Windows 10 does not boot, fails with BSOD 0x7E SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED in ntfs.sys

I have been using Windows 10 for about three months now on my Lenovo T450s and all of a sudden out of nowhere I cannot boot my PC anymore. I recieve the following BSOD message: SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED (ntfs.sys) I have looked around the internet for any solutions to this problem...

windows-10 bsod

user163250

@DragonLordtheFiery many thanks.

user163250

11:39 PM

@NickAlexeev there's actually a very long story about that, at least in regards to SO and classic MSO (before it was split into MSO vs MSE). cc @MiceElf

user163250

66

A: Limits for self promotion, round II

No, I didn't decide to start deleting your answers out of nowhere. You had at least ten spam flags across those answers and I was processing those flags. Looking at them, yes, you did disclose that they were your product, but the links didn't seem integral to the answer provided; the answers lo...

user163250

The most recent entry to the saga,

user163250

5

Q: Is promoting one's own product always spam?

Consider this answer. The user seems to promote his/her own toolkit as a response to the question. Even the profile description of the user says that moderators have flagged/deleted posts in the past. How should one deal with such posts? Flag? If yes, then what? If not, what then? EDIT: Even ...

discussion support self-promotion

user163250

This is the oldest official response, I think,

user163250

63

A: Limits for self-promotion in answers

Thanks to everyone who participated in this dicussion, particularly Ira. Based on what we've decided in this question, I have updated the /faq on all sites to make it policy: May I promote products I am affiliated with here? The community generally frowns on overt self-promotion and ten...

user163250

11:43 PM

A rather dubious honor, having the FAQ updated in this way in response to your actions :P

user202362

Having chatrooms is probably SE's best strategy at fighting spams :p

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected in title: Real sandawan oil and skin +27810950180 for money, luck, business in Johannesburg by Maritinekavuma Kigunde on webapps.stackexchange.com

user163250

Yeah, I guess so, lol

user163250

@SmokeDetector case in point.

user163250

sd tpu-

user163250

11:52 PM

sd why

SmokeDetector

@Cupcake [:4063015] Body - Position 370-377: adf.ly/

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

user259867

Considered as spam when used as a shortener, but API questions are okay.

user163250

Yeah, makes sense.

user163250

I figured that it was blacklisted because it was a shortener.

user163250

11:54 PM

Speaking of which...

user163250

Can goo.gl be added to the blacklist?

user163250

Because of this guy stackoverflow.com/users/3930005/anil-singh?tab=profile

user259867

Interesting question.

user259867

The reason adf.ly and sh.st are blacklisted is not because they are shorteners, but because they pay users to plant links and display interstitial ads to those following them.

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user259867

goo.gl bit.ly etc don't do that

user163250

11:56 PM

Might be worth adding those services to SD's blacklist though.

user163250

Depends on how many false positives we'll get.

user163250

If it's too many, then probably not such a good idea.

user259867

Perhaps, but we should research the usage first.

user163250

Right.

user163250

To SEDE it is then!

user259867

11:56 PM

stackoverflow.com/search?tab=newest&q=url%3agoo.gl I'd say this is too many

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