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3:00 PM
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy wow? -_-
 
Whats the message?
Img plz
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy all of them are removed now...
 
@manetsus You can view the message, so take a screenshot
(Whoops, sorry for typo twice)
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy leave it, I am the most fool person in the world.
 
3:08 PM
@manetsus you were asked to stop. You didn't seem to take that serious hence the members flagged all your messages and other members rushed in to validate those flags. That got you into a chat-suspension. Be careful what you do and pay attention and respect the regulars in the chatrooms.
 
@rene I could not understand that they are telling me as they were not mentioning me! However, what to do with this?
 
I hope you learned your lesson then...
You got trolled...that is what happens in the Lounge<C++>
 
The Lounge is... well, Lounge-y.
 
@rene but why it happens?
 
@manetsus I dunno, they always do that to new, low rep users
 
Let me try it
@SmokeDetector gone
in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 7 secs ago, by Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy
Hello
Waits to be trolled
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: How can I convert an id to a class? by KVF-IT on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: don-gamemeneer-cool by gamemeneer on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
Does a flag gets disputed if a post is edited?
 
@rene depends, what kind of flag?
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
3:24 PM
Unclear close
 
A close flag? I don't think so, unless it was edited in the Close Vote queue.
 
@hichris123 it is this case. I tried to find the review in the queue but there doesn't seem to be one
The only thing is that he post is edit around the same time the flag was raised
 
@rene Was it in any review queue?
Even, say, Triage?
 
I dunno, I only scanned CVQ
 
SEDE hasn't been updated yet. :(
 
3:27 PM
no...
 
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen What about?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: How would i do this? by Simon kay TrainzandTrainsVideo on stackoverflow.com
 
Is there any way to see the state of a post which I flagged? Because, One day I talked about a post which I flagged, one user gave me this link of votes on my flag.
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy You were asking for formatting help. There it is.
 
3:38 PM
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen Not me!
It was @manetsus
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy oh, about markdown ?
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy The matter passed away long time before :)
 
3:40 PM
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy IKR = ?
 
@manetsus here
 
@rene the link is broken
 
@manetsus Its only for mods and the user
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy oh, in this case, Am I not the user?
 
3:43 PM
@manetsus sorry missed a zero at the end stackoverflow.com/users/flag-summary/3555000
 
@rene You beat me real quick
 
@rene oh, I can see this page, but how can I see a specific flag, say which are pending? and how to how know many votes those flags got and how many votes need?
 
that is review history? you mean this?
you can't see the status of your flag easily between the time you flagged and its outcome.
You'll need to keep an eye on the history of the queues
 
@tchrist there goes another reason why stuff should be tagged right...
 
3:51 PM
@rene no, no, I am not talking about the post which are reviewed by me, rather my flags which are reviewed by mods.
 
@hichris123 you are not allowed to guess in the future, OK?
 
@SmokeDetector fp-
 
@manetsus I'm lost in what you ask. Search for flagging summary on MSE or MSO and/or review history to see of that clarifies your confusion
 
maybe we should ignore travel and any other korean site for the korean filter cc @ProgramFOX
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy But that's whom my comment was addressed to.
 
3:55 PM
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen Well now you know
 
@rene ... did I do something wrong? :P
Two possibilities... it was in Triage.... or it wasn't.
 
@rene Say I have edited a post. how to see the status? For me, Going this link I could found the post and I can see either approved editor rejected edit or pending edit. Clicking on it, I can see who reviewed it and who approved and who rejected, that means overall condition of my post edit. Now, My question is, "Is there any way to see the condition like it about my flags?"
 
@Braiam next time I will, tnx
@manetsus No, there is not as you have no access to all reviews. That comes with the 10K privilege
@hichris123 here it is ;)
 
@rene oh, I got it, thanks
!!/help
 
4:04 PM
@manetsus I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and low-quality posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
 
@Braiam It didn't occur to me to check because the user said flag and as I don't have access to the flags...
 
nope
but is a good addition cc @ProgramFOX
 
4:17 PM
@rene @Pro is away
 
Oh
 
in Shadow's Den, 24 hours ago, by ProgramFOX
I'll be offline this weekend, I hope the bot doesn't crash, otherwise you'll have to wait for Monday.
 
Are we calling ProgramFOX "Pro" now?
 
@bjb568 I think three is the minimal number of letters needed to alert someone, isn't it?
 
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen yep
 
4:29 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PDO SQL SERVER INSERTION by Glodybiss on stackoverflow.com
 
sorry
@SmokeDetector ignore- edited including the title
 
4:45 PM
@rene And edited again. X-based is a compound adjective, and should be hyphenated.
 
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen Uhuhuh... keep in mind that I'm not a native speaker so I feel free to say that I like your effort to educate me but that sentence didn't process....
 
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen Well, yeah, but it's also a good nickname, since I don't recall him having one.
besides fox, which isn't pingable
 
Can someone test this for me?
See what it says?
 
@rene I'm a pedant, and the bulk of my activity on Stack Exchange these days is editing.
 
4:51 PM
Your access token is Not Set!
 
But PDO-based is, in itself, functioning as an adjective. It's two words stuck together to make an adjective. As such, it's a compound adjective. And compound adjectives should be hyphenated.
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy the page is empty: "http://teamfreehugs.github.io/stackexchange/stackapi/#access_token=1HNl7Wt3Kmur‌​Hz*vQ237pQ))&expires=86399"
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy I got an alert and reload loop.
 
@bjb568 Then it should redirect you to a page asking for permissions?
@bjb568 Huh weird
Cause I don't
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy I clicked approve, then it did it again, then loop
 
4:52 PM
> Pedant. I like to do that to people. I hate it when they do it to me
cc @trig
 
@bjb568 Ok.. I'm going to revoke the app and try it
 
Tried again, third alert said Your access token is…
 
@Braiam I'm a pendant; I sway in the breeze.
2
 
Well I don't get that
/me takes a video
 
5:00 PM
@bjb it should look like this
(Sorry for LQ)
 
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen That’s because the vast majority of postings here require real editing before they “read as though they were written by an educated adult instead of written in crayon” on the subway walls. And tenement halls. And bathroom stalls.
 
user259867
> Actually Frankenstein was the name of the scientist. I, the person correcting you on this trivial point, am the monster. -- Joseph Scrimshaw at 9:55 PM - 9 Mar 2015 via Twitter
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SQL MOST OCCURING VALUE by Haye asso on stackoverflow.com
 
And misspelled title.
And offensive username.
 
@NormalHuman Dr. Frankenstein
 
5:04 PM
!!/test asso
 
> Body: not blacklisted ;
Title: not blacklisted
 
@Pro @Undo can we add in a check for username?
 
It’s possible that’s a legit username. I just read it with a slant.
 
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy isblkuser
I think
 
@Braiam No, as in bad stuff in username
Hmm. With the stackexchange app already approved, it flows so quickly that I don't even see the SE page
 
5:09 PM
@SmokeDetector select 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌 🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕 🍼🍼
 
5:21 PM
@tchrist apparently, neither Consolas or Seguo UI Symbol have the "baby bottle"
 
@Braiam Not sure why that would matter. All that matters is that there be a font on your system that has a glyph for that code point, right?
 
user259867
Is there an up-to-date reference on how Post Links are created? Duplicates are understood; I wonder what kind of links are detected.
 
user259867
The original announcement is in Is there a way to search for posts linked to other posts? but things may have changed.
 
@tchrist not exactly, because I've seen that if the browser doesn't select the adecuate font in the first tries, it wouldn't search until it finds which has the glyph
 
@Braiam Ick! That’s dumb.
I am certain that the glyphs are not being pull from the constant-width font here in my display.
 
user259867
5:25 PM
> With Stack Exchange 2.0 in mind, I want to extend this to cross-network links as well -- wrote Atwood in 2010. Yeah...
 
Because I recognize where they’re coming from.
The font-substitution algorithm should pull out a glyph for a given code point no matter what font. It’s always worked that way on anything I’ve ever used.
 
@tchrist could be worse, the font says it has the glyph, but it just returns a square
 
Oh it does?
That’s evil.
Fonts should not lie.
If it didn’t work that way, it would be impossible to display things.
 
@tchrist dunno, but the square wasn't the same when I played with the available fonts
 
Very odd.
 
5:33 PM
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen Couldn't it also be PHP-PDO-based?
 
TESTING NORMAL => ¡pɐəɥ ɹnoʎ uo ƃuᴉpuɐʇs ʎq sᴉɥʇ pɐəᴚ, 𐌸𐌼𐌽𐍂, 𐐔𐐯𐑅𐐨𐑉𐐯𐐻, 𝒜𝒟𝔅𝔎𝔼𝔽, 😇 😈 😉 😨 😭 😱, ✔ ✅ 🐪 📖 🛂 🐍, ◌̂◌̃ ◌⃞◌̲◌︀◌̵◌̷ TESTING FIXED => ¡pɐəɥ ɹnoʎ uo ƃuᴉpuɐʇs ʎq sᴉɥʇ pɐəᴚ, 𐌸𐌼𐌽𐍂, 𐐔𐐯𐑅𐐨𐑉𐐯𐐻, 𝒜𝒟𝔅𝔎𝔼𝔽, 😇 😈 😉 😨 😭 😱, ✔ ✅ 🐪 📖 🛂 🐍, ◌̂◌̃ ◌⃞◌̲◌︀◌̵◌̷
Hm, the fixed did poorly with the combining characters.
 
@tchrist It should, yes. However, what happens in some applications (read: Chrome on Windows, Firefox on Windows) is that they just have a list of fonts and say "Well, is this in the block of math characters? If it is, see if font x y or z have the font. If not, go to the next set of UBLOCKS." For Firefox, that list is fairly comprehensive. For Chrome, it's mainly just "Is this an emoji? -- Use Segoe UI Emoji -- otherwise, try fonts 1-10."
 
Dumb.
 
I know... but Windows isn't really too helpful.
 
Works on a Mac.
 
5:39 PM
We have an API for determining if the system has a font for a given Unicode character, but it's only in Win 8.1+.
And it currently doesn't work in Chrome because of the sandbox.
It tries to enumerate the fonts... and Chrome blocks all filesystem access by the renderers... so... it just crashes and burns.
 
Is that recent or something? Sorry, I don’t keep track of how many circles there are in hell.
Still think software should have year numbers for release numbers. Works for wine. :)
 
Is what recent? The figuring out of "yay, our sandbox is annoying?" I figured it out a few months ago, but we haven't figured out a suitable solution... so nothing was ever changed in terms of fallback fonts.
Just the same ol' behavior.
 
That 8.1 thing.
 
Oh.
 
I presume that’s not 1981.
 
5:42 PM
Uh... a year ago?
 
And they still haven’t figured it out? Gosh.
 
Windows 8.1 (codenamed Blue) is an upgrade for Windows 8, a version of Windows NT, a computer operating system released by Microsoft. First unveiled and released as a public beta in June 2013, it was released to manufacturing on August 27, 2013, and reached general availability on October 17, 2013, almost a year after the retail release of its predecessor. Windows 8.1 is available free of charge for retail copies of Windows 8 and Windows RT users via the Windows Store. Unlike service packs on previous versions of Windows, users who obtained 8 outside of retail copies or pre-loaded installations...
Two years ago.
@tchrist Well, font fallback work isn't high on the priority list.
By the way... here's how your message renders.
 
Very wee.
You realize it’s doing completely the wrong thing for the math letters and for the combining characters, right?
It’s actually rendering them wrong.
 
user259867
 
user259867
Chrome on Chrome OS, for comparison.
 
5:46 PM
That’s much closer to right, but it flubbed the COMBINING ENCLOSING SQUARE.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Слово "разгильдяй" by Ннн on rus.stackexchange.com
 
I could use what you showed. I couldn’t use what chris showed; too utterly broken.
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector naa
 
@tchrist I'm sure there's something wrong on this ^
 
@Braiam All but the very last one, I think, are correct.
What’s that from?
 
5:50 PM
FF on Debian
 
Interesting.
 
there's a square over a symbol, is that expected?
 
Yes!
It’s the grapheme "\N{DOTTED CIRCLE}\N{COMBINING ENCLOSING SQUARE}".
So "\x{25CC}\x{20DE}".
Although I’m unfont^Hd of magic numbers. :)
 
@tchrist I know for the combining characters, but what's wrong with the math ones?
 
@hichris123 They should vary in presented font: "\N{MATHEMATICAL SCRIPT CAPITAL A}\N{MATHEMATICAL SCRIPT CAPITAL D}\N{MATHEMATICAL FRAKTUR CAPITAL B}\N{MATHEMATICAL FRAKTUR CAPITAL K}\N{MATHEMATICAL DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL E}\N{MATHEMATICAL DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL F}"
Yours were all bog-standard roman.
 
5:54 PM
Hrm... I actually have an idea for how to solve the sandbox issue. Bad news: I'm leaving tomorrow. :P
@tchrist Ah.
 
I saw no script, no blackletter, no double-striking.
Which kinda ruins what they were designed for.
 
For comparison: here's what it would look like if Chrome was using the API I was talking about:
 
@hichris123 you disabled sandboxing?
 
@Braiam On my locally-built test version, yes.
 
on the gripping hand: I'm eating peach >:D
 
user259867
6:02 PM
@hichris123 Are any jet planes involved?
 
Peaches are good.
 
@NormalHuman Quite possibly.
 
watch as a Normal Human brings out his laser equipment
 
...
 
Peach is also a nice general word that doesn’t get people lost in nectarine vs peach vs apricot vs etc.
 
6:07 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title, bad keyword in title: BARCELONA VS MANCHESTER UNITED EN VIVO INTERNATIONAL by ytityikyr on patents.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu- but it's refreshing to see old nav on Patents.
 
"EN VIVO INTERNATIONAL" is stupid.
 
@tchrist to be more precise and avert that: I was (sadly) eating Prunus persica
 
Durazno or melocotón? :) j/k
Apricots have a super short season.
A peach is a peach is a peach, even when it’s a nectarine. I think.
 
melocotón
 
user259867
6:19 PM
Goal: sort the posts with a given tag, e.g., [mathjax], by votes: http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/mathjax
In old nav: 1) click "votes" 2) done
In new nav: 1) click "popular" 2) open a dropdown 3) select "all time" 4) open another dropdown 5) select "votes" 6) done? Nope, you only get 69 posts instead of 83 you saw with the newest sort.
 
user259867
I thought of posting this on Meta, but then recalled the sage advice about not polishing a turd.
 
@tchrist Yeah. Also, rescuing doomed posts is sort of fun. And is also handy displacement activity from the work I should be doing.
@hichris123 Maybe. I'm not sure. I'd be inclined to say that PHP works as a noun adjunct and PDO-based as a compound adjective.
 
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen Yep.
 
@tchrist You're expecting spam to be coherent Spanish, hmm?
 
6:33 PM
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen Pretty lame, but at least you have Gothic covered. :)
 
@tchrist Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:39.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/39.0
To what extent is this sort of thing the role of the browser, and to what extent is it passed off to the OS?
 
Fonts aren’t a POSIX function.
Deep juju though.
 
@tchrist I'm constantly impressed by both the depth and the breadth of your knowledge, by the way.
 
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen Debian has it covered... through I installed mathjax fonts
 
@TRiGisTimothyRichardGreen It’s all a sham, lad, all a sham.
wonders whether that sounded Irish enough
 
6:40 PM
ok, it uses DejaVu Sans(Mono/Fallback), FreeSans, FreeSerif, Liberation Mono/Sans, Unifont Upper... I wonder why in Windows it doesn't...
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: TABLE OF CONTENTS IN TEX MAKER by Ad H on tex.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
7:04 PM
if (!/^meta/.test(location.hostname)) {
    location.replace(location.href + "search");
}
 
user259867
This fixes all problems with SE navigation.
 
user259867
Until they switch the domains from meta.site.stackexchange.com to sitemeta.stackexchange.com, that is. :(
 
7:36 PM
I left an extra comment here after I dupe-voted. Was my comment rude or noise?
Or is it a bug in the dupe vote remove comments logic...
 
user259867
Did it have a link to the other question? If yes, probably automatic removal.
 
Hmm, it had a link, but not to the dupe.
 
7:50 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why is karma a bitch? by Anupam Chopra on english.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector ignore-
 
@berserk you know you love me
 
someone summoned me?
oh.. w..w..wait..
it was a t..t..trap...
runs away to the pluto
 
8:42 PM
@rene A couple of hours ago I had a manually posted comment mentioning "duplicate" and a link to a question. When it was closed as a dupe of that quesion, the comment evaporated. That's perfectly fine but I do wonder what the algorithm is for doing that.
 
OK, let me check if I can find a meta post explaining that and if not post a question to get that behavior confirmed.
 
user259867
 
I have that link on the clipboard atm, so yes...
What would happen if I call it a bug?
 
user259867
It would make sense to call it a bug. If you are sure it wasn't mod-deleted for some reason.
 
Knowing that I can be rude without realizing I'll do that first...
Bountied:
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Q: Don't delete comments with link to duplicate if they are modified

Mad ScientistA user just posted his question a second time here on meta after the first was closed as a duplicate. I wrote a comment on the second post, explaining that the answer to his question is in the linked duplicate and that he shouldn't circumvent the closure process by asking a second identical quest...

With a stinging notice, I hope...
 
10:02 PM
@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy for 'asso'? Sounds fp-prone
Saw this and I'm like "when the heck did we launch a dermatologists.SE?"
 
user259867
I wouldn't be surprised if it appeared.
 
for... professional and enthusiast dermatologists?
eeeeeek
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector del edited
 
user259867
The audience is there: the SE users are by now thoroughly educated in skin care.
 
True!
We'd have to start badgering the spammers to commit to the proposal
 
10:19 PM
0
A: closing a program with a space in the name

Borsunho@echo off start /IM "Example Program.exe" pause taskkill /F /IM "Example Program.exe" end ??

!!
 
user259867
Looks like Super User material (the question)
 
user259867
 
user259867
^ proposed ru.SO swag, from Какие подарки и сувениры мы бы хотели? by Nicolas Chabanovsky on meta.ru.stackoverflow.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: wpf application c# adobe pdf reader com licensing by Adan Ramirez on stackoverflow.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector OT / license, not programming
 
10:39 PM
@Undo XY problem.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: What story is the music video Snuff trying to portray? by mr truth on movies.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu abusive
 
@Undo Blacklisted user.
 
user259867
and gone
 
user259867
After two consecutive xkcd comics brought up Spice Girls, I clicked over to explanation of #1511... this stuff with two interpretations is confusing.
 
user259867
10:52 PM
When I first saw it, I naturally assumed the second intepretation.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW CAN I ADVERTEZ MTY FREE BTC SITE by kaiba youcef on bitcoin.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu-spam
 
user259867
Same user again:
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: DZBTC Service | Free Satoshi by kaiba youcef on bitcoin.stackexchange.com
 
11:16 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CAUCHY SCHWARTZ INEQUALITIES by Soledolu Oluwatayo on math.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector VLQ
 
user259867
11:44 PM
> Why do I always get the hospital room with the annoying flickering light? -- Kyle Staskiewicz at 3:43 PM - 25 Jul 2015 via Twitter
 
user259867
Hope you're getting out of it soon, @animuson
 
user259867
> Made the mistake of reading yelp reviews for the place for dinner tonight.Looks like I'm gonna overpay 4 OK food weak drinks and bad service -- George Beech at 3:51 PM - 25 Jul 2015 via Twitter
 
user259867
 
@NormalHuman that sure suck
 
user259867
My current office has that. I don't feel like asking for it to be fixed, because I'm moving out in a week.
 
user259867
11:49 PM
Still undecided re: cleaning the whiteboard.
 
luckily you don't have OCD
 
user259867
If I got +10 rep for erasing the whiteboard, and +15 for using a cleaner...
 
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