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11:01 AM
@BretCopeland downforeveryoneorjustme.com/area51.stackexchange.com - showing it's down, so probably many people can't enter as well. Personally it's working for me, so not sure what to do.
okay, I'll mention it in our SRE room.
cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/29728813/1699210 dup / mirgration :/
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Health Supplements For Better, Longer And Happier Life by olve droll on meta.stackexchange.com
11:12 AM
@SmokeDetector fp
@bummi Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
@SmokeDetector tpu
@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
4 hours ago, by Unihedron
Uncaught Reference
Error: jQuery is not defined(anonymous function) @ VM264:708
favicon.ico:1 GET http://area51.stackexchange.com/favicon.ico 503 (Service Unavailable)
@BretCopeland ^ in case you need debug information
@JasonC thing is, I don't see it as trying to evade suspension but as a way to report real bugs. Yes he can collect all those bugs then report them when getting back, but why wait?
11:32 AM
@AndrewT. As I mentioned almost immediately after, VM264 was a cached .js file of the site which was loaded without its libraries higher order than it already loaded, therefore the first two lines of exception; while the last was just a glorified way of noting that not only was the site giving a feedback page of 503, so was the favicon
wouldn't it be strange if the site was 503 but the favicon could be served?
care to explain?
503 could be a programming error
@JanDvorak won't it be 500?
503 is usually when the whole IIS is down
11:42 AM
looks up
looks down
I always use HTTP status code 418 to avoid confusion
@PeterJ isn't it the teapot?
in Java on Stack Overflow Chat, 13 secs ago, by OakBot
@Unihedron HTTP 503 (Service Unavailable): The 503 (Service Unavailable) status code indicates that the server is currently unable to handle the request due to a temporary overload or scheduled maintenance, which will likely be alleviated after some delay. The server MAY send a Retry-After header field (Section 7.1.3) to suggest an appropriate amount of time for the client to wait ...
I think 503 is returned if http.sys isn't able to get a process/thread to accepts the socket connection
11:44 AM
@Shadow yep that's the one
You could still have the application server maxed out while static files are handled by a different process
@JanDvorak also known as elastic CDN
@Unihedron what's elastic about it?
@ShadowWizard nothing
naming is hard so they went with that adjective
oh just naming
11:46 AM
You watch your credit card receipt, you'll notice how elastic it becomes
Well, @InfiniteRecursion killed bjb ...
Area 51 should be back now (for everyone).
11:49 AM
@Bart his botling is elastic
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: converting from epoch to seconds in matlab by RSA on stackoverflow.com
@InfiniteRecursion spastic
@Bart it's a noty bot
duck show
11:51 AM
Not 100% sure what the issue is, but it looks like ny-web06 may have restarted for some reason, and the Area51 apppool didn't start. However, the stackexchange.com apppool did start, and the LB actually pings that app to decide whether both SE.com and A51 are online. So it thought A51 was online and was trying to send traffic to web06 for it, even though it was actually offline.
Anyway, I just started the apppool on web06 and everything came back.
11:53 AM
Tavern on Meta. Where mature adults gather.
@Bart HEY!
And Unihedron.
11:55 AM
@Bart it's @Bret's fault, he made us all too happy
There are two kinds of people in the Tavern: Those who are mature adults, and Unihedron.
@ShadowWizard you got Area51 back. What is there to be happy about?
I deny everything
@Bart it contains valueable proposals
11:57 AM
@SmokeDetector fp
@rene Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
@rene not complete wrong ... there is an issue
what is the issue?
@rene answered in the question, did add a comment
Ok, but the title doesn't contain a phonenumber so that is why I fp-ed
12:01 PM
true ;)
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CONFUSED REGARDING 2014 NEC by KULTULZ on diy.stackexchange.com
Looks like a good reviewer has just hit the 2k mark...
I have more helpful flags than Jon Skeet. How awesome ! :-)
12:11 PM
> Rohil_PHPBeginner reviewed this 18 mins ago: Approve
@SmokeDetector I don't dare to edit that...
@JonasCz And I have more helpful flags than you.
:-( . I will get there. some day :-)
Good luck! You can do it :)
12:13 PM
Now try to get the most declined flags, off you go!
I wonder if 1 recent review is enough to flag
@rene but you can't see how many declined flags another person has
@Braiam not enough evidence to support your flag?
I have 61 declined flags.
@Braiam I will flag and see what happens.
12:16 PM
@rene yeah, but that single review is pretty bad...
@Braiam might be just a misclick
@Unihedron I have 16 so we are in sync, number wise
frantically flags a good question as VLQ
@rene life is not fair!
12:23 PM
@rene 33 but trying to improve :/
12:46 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Did Christ's original twelve apostles have families? by Lee Silber on christianity.stackexchange.com
1:02 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: Настройки axis2 для https by Сергей on ru.stackoverflow.com
@SmokeDetector tried it, I did remove that single > but on submit I guess it yelled 6 characters!
blacklist candidate agelesseyesblog.com
blacklist candidate aplussofts.com
@rene wait, let me explain before you go recast that downvote!
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Password reset messages are all in English by Artisan72 on magento.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: What are YouTube edit lists? by Darrell Mccubbin on superuser.com
1:22 PM
Good morning, world.
@Andy Welcome back to the reality. Are you ready for a new day?
Good afternoon
@Unihedron Sure. Why not. It's only 8:20 in the morning on a Monday. Not much could have happened yet.
dream on....
1:30 PM
@InfiniteRecursion btw, regarding this morning conversation. Did anyone warn the mods of the "Can create room with no title" thing?
Q: Chat room can be created with no clickable name

AndyA chat room can be renamed to contain only a zero-width space as the title of the room. This gives the room no clickable name for easy entry Initially I named the room with zero-width space, then realised that I can have completely nameless room and now it has no name at all :) There is a...

@Andy Anna is waiting for that witty retort...
@SPArchaeologist Dunno
@Andy thanks Andy
@InfiniteRecursion seem Andy did
@SPArchaeologist Thanks, upvoted.
1:44 PM
mumble.... let me check one thing...
It's still a dupe. — Patrick Hofman 17 secs ago
Please don't require 10k for it kthxbye — bjb568 28 mins ago
^ nice! gone at -7 with 8 page views :)
2:05 PM
@JasonC let's agree to disagree then. As it stands, SE official response (via Shog) is "we don't care about suspended users", and I can't really fight this, so @nicael will have to wait for the suspension to be over before reporting new bugs.
I don't see any issues with reporting broken things in the penalty box.
But you can't come out to report them
@PatrickHofman not perfect though, someone downvoted which isn't good for spam.
@ShadowWizard I know :(
Eh. Downvote spam if you want.
If smokey reported it, we'll get enough flags on it.
2:08 PM
@ShadowWizard Then we agree!
Uh oh, someone pushed on the top of @JasonC's username.
What'd you do to get punished with Tavern ownership?
I bothered Shog on a weekend.
Lucky you lived through it.
Or maybe this is a slow execution. Death by tavern.
He does strike me as the kind of guy who would enjoy inflicting a slow, painful death.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger
2:10 PM
@ShadowWizard or disabled for life.
@Undo huh, true that
I'm optimistic today.
great, my coffee turned cold because of you guys. Not cool distracting me like that! :P
@JasonC Not necessarily - in this case, we'd more be using the time as a filter so that mods only need to look at people that are doing enough damage to care. No use wasting a moderator's time on someone who is closing a question a month, even wrongly. — Undo 4 mins ago
Yes, necessarily, by definition of "speed" (or "rate" if you prefer). :P
Anyways that suggestion contains exactly zero problem statements.
2:14 PM
@JasonC But not targeting speed-closures.
But yes, you're technically right :P
@Undo A speed based warning not designed to target speed is not the right criteria, though. I'd rather just see a "if you believe this was closed in error, flag it" direct flag link in the close explanation. Actually, I'd rather just see no changes be made to that system. Won't can always run for mod next election if he's really unsatisfied with the time it's taking for the questions he personally wants to close to be closed.
you're going to make me run numbers on this, aren't you? >.>
I suspect, given complete lack of description of the problem that it's intending to solve, that Won't just saw some questions that he really wanted to close and found a palatable way to complain about it.
I doubt it.
You know that he was an SO mod
Please don't require 10k for it kthxbye — bjb568 58 mins ago
2:17 PM
Doesn't matter. No problem statement = no constraints on what I can reasonably assume the problem is.
Maybe he's just sad that he's not a mod any more.
darn, SEDE doesn't give user IDs for close votes.
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Some Finder Icons Missing? by MacPaw Support on apple.stackexchange.com
@Undo funny enough, moderators can access this...
@Braiam not from SEDE
@SmokeDetector this is support personnel responding with "you're using a compatible version; contact us" .. feels VLQ-ish.
@LynnCrumbling not sure, if posted by "neutral" user it might fit apple.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/110517
@ShadowWizard Yeah, having a hard time deciding whether to click that flag button.
@LynnCrumbling flag away, the native mods will decide its fate anyway. :)
@SmokeDetector fp edited out profanity
@LynnCrumbling Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
2:25 PM
@LynnCrumbling isn't it what we have the "ignore" for? The initial revision did have a bad word to begin with.
(so fp might hurt the mechanism detectiing those words)
@ShadowWizard Yep. You're right. I used the wrong word.
Wonder what options I have now.
@LynnCrumbling hmm... can this be undone? @Undo?
^ that's minorly amusing.
@ProgramFOX Same question to you.
2:28 PM
@Undo That's the best kind of "right"
@ShadowWizard Ummm maybe
Think @Pro is still at school
Ahh, k
How important is it?
Scale of 1-10; 3.5
How much will it damage the heuristics by having an fp where it should have been ignore?
2:29 PM
@Undo depends, what happens when a post marked "offensive body detected" gets "fp" by mistake?
(swearing: "shit") was marked fp.
@ShadowWizard it just gets added to the bayesian list that we don't use. And gets ignored.
oh, that reminds me. Did someone want whitelistedusers.txt?
@Undo So using this word from now on won't trigger alarm? That's kind of bad.
@ShadowWizard no, the post gets ignored. Not the word
@Undo oh. So what's the difference between "fp" and "ignore"?
2:31 PM
(the next answer from Undo is getting starred.)
@LynnCrumbling The sky is red.
@ShadowWizard ignore just doesn't add it to the list.
okay, who's starring ALL TEH THINGS?
2:33 PM
@Undo By "it" .. you mean "that specific question id" ?
@LynnCrumbling No, the post title doesn't get added to the bayesian list
I like to make everyone feel like a star...
@JasonC ProTip: You can cancel stars now.
@PeterJ Stars are large and hot and full of explosions. Sounds like a bad thing to feel like ;)
@ShadowWizard If I understand this correctly ... my little inaccuracy won't impact smokey's catching the profanity..
It won't. You're fine.
2:37 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Display a Word Document by mahmoud.roushdy on sharepoint.stackexchange.com
@Undo I was wondering if I could do that. I couldn't find the tool for it though.
@JasonC Dropdown menu on a post in the starboard.
Oh cool.
Q: Let's give very-trusted users a Closehammer to go with their Dupehammer

Won'tI'm calling it a Closehammer rather than an Onholdhammer because... well, just look at how odd Onholdhammer looks. I'm proposing that trusted users be given the ability to instantly place a question On Hold unilaterally. Now I'd like you to read the following and reconsider undoing your dow...

2:40 PM
The only thing I've really discovered so far is that I can't kick suspended users.
Party over here
@bjb568 Are you sure your support of this isn't just bitterness over being #31? :P
Please consider this post for review. Make sure to read the post fully, support the authors whenever you can and always remember the golden rule: "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all". I recommend you to look at this post carefully and always follow your own judgement. Disclaimer: I am not legally liable for any damages caused by clicking on this link: meta.stackexchange.com/a/256661/266094
(boilerplate disclaimer with credits to Qantas94Heavy)
oh my, we got both Zephyr and Zypher in the room. So confusing.
@Jason Undo all teh stars!
I pressed F5 while writing my comment
2:46 PM
what a fatal mistake!
@ShadowWizard Zephyr is obviously better than Zephyr.
I appreciate your judgement but don't think that rationale is what makes this feature worthwhile. — Unihedron 1 min ago
What's this even mean?
What rational does?
@Andy same way that Andy is better than Andy?
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: printer, scanner and xerox canon pixma mg2450 by 난사랑해 on askubuntu.com
@SmokeDetector why bad? It translates to "I love you"
!bjb 난사랑해
2:57 PM
@ShadowWizard bamware left over
@bummi so that language is blacklisted because of one spammer?
@ShadowWizard looks like
for what it's worth I'm pretty sure the spammer himself used display name with English letters, that language was just in the posts
AFAIK english.stackexchange.com did the same
3:00 PM
@ShadowWizard 차도어 위자드
I did my best to write your name in korean
kinda hard because they don't have the letters "sh" and "w"
Does this mean that in Korean I work in the IT can have a double meaning?
@rene I don't get it
that is normal, just ignore
3:09 PM
anyone else got any translate requests? I'm bored x)
umm.... @Dar? It translates to "Car Door Wizard" translate.google.com/#auto/en/…
I consider to change my name to this :D
@ShadowWizard xD
Well I just mimicked the sound of your username. try the audio
@ShadowWizard Lol
Sticky locks? Squeaky windows? Shadow's got you covered.
그림자 위자드 translates correctly, but now the name sounds like "Geulimja Wizard"
if you guys ever feel like insulting someone in korean, 눕 = noob
3:20 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Urgent! BMW 318i 2007 E90 Heating Up by NFS63 on mechanics.stackexchange.com
ask on mechanics.SE when your engine heats up #LifeHacks!!!
What's the URL for the feed of all new SE questions? I need it to test something.
there is such thing?
@Unihedron I don't know. But I can't figure out how to get the feed of questions for a certain site.
@ASCIIThenANSI /questions/feed/new?
3:25 PM
@ASCIIThenANSI site://feeds
@ASCIIThenANSI stackoverflow.com/feeds for example?
@Unihedron So for Stack Overflow, it would be stackoverflow.com//feeds? Or stackoverflow.com://feeds?
http://stackoverflow.com/feeds or https://stackoverflow.com/feeds
site:// is SEDE notation
@Unihedron Oh, OK. Thanks!
Also, there isn't one for all questions, but there is one for hot questions.
[desc](url with http:// or https://)
3:28 PM
Stupid markdown
The markdown isn't stupid
markdown is just a set of insane rules grouped together
remember, the person implementing it probably cursed it as much if not ten times more than you did
s/markdown/the american law/
@Unihedron Cursed -3 markdown?
And of course, this is the one time when SO doesn't have new questions.
so I heard you wanted to set up feeds
knite skool tmr
3:32 PM
Forget it, I'll just add a bunch of other sites.
skool sux much anyd
Then all the questions will come at once : |
Any graphics card recommendations? Looking for nvidia sub-$200.
@Mooseman what's your use case
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator user here. Works perfectly as a person who plays SwarmSim, runs IntelliJ Idea and LYNX as browser.
Run-on sentence
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA hello hello! nice to meet you
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA considering your name is very long i decided to greet with an equally if not longer sentence
Ohai @amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA
@Unihedron Working on video processing, playing first person shooters, etc.
@Mooseman ...
@Unihedron Figured you'd say that... :p
3:36 PM
@LynnCrumbling cc @Sha When a profanity is edited out of a post after Smokey reported it, you don't have to do anyting. fp/ignore is not necessary because Smokey wouldn't catch the post after the edit anyway.
If you trust logicalincrements, go for a R9 or GTX
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Wow.. you haven't visited in.... forever.
@JasonC cc @Yes, Well, I believe it's better to have all blacklisted sites committed, so it's very easy for someone else to host Smokey. And making a bot commit is less trivial than simply adding terms to a file. Also I vaguely remember that @hichris123 once said that he would not be a fan of doing something like that, but I'm unable to find that message again.
@LynnCrumbling Hows it goin?
@Unihedron hola
@Undo Shalom!
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Eh, it's monday. Still gotta be better than consequences for people that played with the bug on friday.
3:41 PM
@LynnCrumbling What bug?
What did I miss?
some guy abused a bug to reduce four people's reputation by thousands
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA yo u name b brkng usrls
@Unihedron My message really looks like a wall of text on mobile xD
@Unihedron Maybe you should submit a bug report?
3:42 PM
@JanDvorak Cool. How did they do that?
@ASCIIThenANSI will do in morning if no one does iy already
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA race condition in server code
I noticed something in the screenshot
@JanDvorak faaaaaancy
3:44 PM
I'm in airplane mode
I wish airplane mode would actually convert ny phone into an airplane.
@Unihedron Something is very wrong here
I don't mind flying a plane to places.
@ProgramFOX Yes, I remember hichris wasn't in favor of user-submitted keywords going directly to Smokey. Wouldn't be long before someone blacklists sourceforge.net because some spammers host their stuff there.
@ASCIIThenANSI: I'd like to reduce the radiation I take in
@Yes such as China?
3:48 PM
@Yes I don't think this is a huge concern since overzealous blacklists will become apparent very quickly and therefore unblacklisted.
especially since I have no friends who'd call me anyway
-1 karma for using non-standard regex delimiters
+1 karma for reminding me such a thing exists
easier to type in vim
home row ;)
@SmokeDetector tpu
@SmokeDetector tpu
3:55 PM
@LynnCrumbling Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@ProgramFOX Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@SmokeDetector they try so hard...
@SmokeDetector gone
4:06 PM
4:29 PM
If you can get four of your friends to switch theirs to airplane mode too then you can do this.
@Unihedron But how would we charge the phone(s) that do this?
By the way, I found the most awesome question ever:
Q: how do I make my shell prompt look like a cheeseburger?

Corey GoldbergI want my shell prompt to look like a cheeseburger! 🍔 🍔 🍔 It would be nice if it also displayed: username, hostname, and current directory.

that's what you have to expect on a broad/POB question: stackoverflow.com/a/30308498/1699210
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: why do hindus need to worship more gods? by user2225190 on hinduism.stackexchange.com
Color contrast problem IRL
4:45 PM
@bummi mm... cv-pls?
@Braiam that was implicit as the spam report
@SmokeDetector fp
@ProgramFOX Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

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