@ShadowWizard lets just say that I've found wisdom in weird places, too

@Yes huh, "let is"?

meh, english is weird...

yes

Yes

"s" can mean "has" or "is" and now "lets us"

Beware, Jeff is awaiting with his giant S just beyond the corner

:O

I officially declare nicaelBot dead because of browser incompatibility.

What's the problem, @AstroCB?

@hichris123 It will only work with Safari, and Safari is my main browser, so I am logged in, which means that I have to run it in a private window to be able to log in as xkcdBot, and you can't write to localStorage from a Safari private window.

I suppose I could run it on my main account like I did before.

@Yes Wouldn't that be "get ourselves"?

@AstroCB Yeah, but what's the issue with Chrome?

@Yes Ye's

Trying to see if it's a reported bug or not.

Right, but in that context it wouldn't be get us. It would be get ourselves.

.click() works properly in FF, but if I moved it there, I'd have to rewrite xkcdBot's core engine, which is what allows access to the revision history.

What are you trying to .click()? The send button?

@Doorknob No; the gravatar wall.

I guess I could do a request to nicael's chat profile page and pull the about me from there, but that seems unnecessary.

@AstroCB MDN claims otherwise. developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/HTMLElement/click. Also, there is jQuery on this page...

@hichris123 jQuery isn't working either, for reasons I don't understand.

Oh, you're trying to let nicael chat via editing his about me?

@AstroCB "Seems unnecessary" is a good motto for the whole project, really.

@Yes Only 5787 results? I expected more.

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@JasonC Fair enough.

It's running here for now.

@Yes Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

!nicael revisions

Still none.

@AstroCB he should get the trace

!nicael revisions

Huh.

the api allows to search user names?

@Yes Ok, fair enough. Good work, and an interesting result. Surprisingly U&L seems to be one or the more active sites...

!nicael revisions

Revisions:
Next bug of penalty box: i.stack.imgur.com/51fkt.png - the first option results in just standard 404. o.O @Astro quite WTFish revisions you've just made :D

@ShadowWizard

@nicael Checks every three minutes now.

@nicael you mean trying to edit your profile while suspended results in a 404 error page?

Can we please have a nicael kick, @Inf?

@ShadowWizard yes

And/or a kick of Astro. Either would work fine at this point.

!nicael revisions

Revisions:
Next bug of penalty box: i.stack.imgur.com/51fkt.png - the first option results in just standard 404. o.O @Astro quite WTFish revisions you've just made :D
Yes, exactly, @Sha.

Nice.

@hichris123 Inf enjoys kicking me.

Yeah, I think I might have to.

I'd like to have intelligent conversation with someone, rather than listening to the cries from a description box.

@ShadowWizard Did those revision notes ping you?

Much cleaner.

@AstroCB nope, how can they ping me?

Saw it, will report tomorrow-ish

@ShadowWizard Just wondering if I should strip the symbols out of the rev history as well.

I'm off, @AstroCB you can put the bot in my Den to avoid annoying people here, if you like :)

@ShadowWizard Is @nicael in there?

@AstroCB yup

@ShadowWizard It's there.

@AstroCB well, it's formatted as code, so nothing is being parsed

@AstroCB thanks, will take a look after a good night sleep :)

@hichris123 nicaelBot removed from Tavern.

Better.

Although...

@hichris123 Everything is unnecessary.

But if we followed that, then nothing would ever go anywhere.

Yeah, why don't we just allow all suspended users to chat. That'll fix everything.

This is, quite honestly, defeating the purpose of suspensions.

And ignoring what SEI wants.

S/he took an exploit too far; I don't agree with anything nicael did prior to suspension, and I think the suspension was deserved. If bugs are going to come up, however, it doesn't hurt to report them as they show up rather than shove them all down Meta's throat at once (not that it really matters).

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@AstroCB Your first sentence is quite incompatible & disagrees with your current actions. If you believe that the suspension is deserved... then why are you allowing the suspension to be evaded and ignored?

@AstroCB But, of course, that statement is a fairly irrelevant weaselly blanket claim.

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@Yes Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

@AstroCB Doesn't hurt to report bugs, true. Unfortunately, "report bugs" is an incomplete summary of the situation. Teaching users that their suspensions are a joke and helping them to work around it is not necessary and not justified by said bug reports. There is no compelling reason to justify what you are doing in order to have things like "the comment message for suspended users is inaccurate" reported now as opposed to 30 days from now.

@Shadow acting as a suspended-user-to-meta relay server is just as bad.

As for "shoving them all down meta's throat at once", whether nicael chooses to do that vs spacing them out upon return is not our problem. We have never been concerned about the rate that bugs were posted to meta in the past, it didn't just suddenly become a relevant issue worth considering now.

That is so awesome.

Is there an emoticon for "laughing while saying this"? Like that combination speech + guffaw thing that people do.

@Yes heh

@JasonC @hichris123 This criticism would have helped before I wrote the bot...

I don't think that doing this in any way invalidates the suspension. nicael's suspended and can't do anything on any of the sites; if that time is used for finding bugs, then so be it.

Reporting them earlier just means that they'll be fixed faster.

@AstroCB It still helps now, just kill it. We know you can write it. Yay. And to be honest when you said you were going to write that bot I genuinely thought you were joking.

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@JasonC I'm great at writing boughts.

@Yes Blacklisted user.

@JasonC It's in the Den now, so it's not bothering anyone (hopefully).

@JasonC So did I.

@AlexisKing thought boughts!

Aww, now I look silly.

!!/blame

@AlexisKing It's rene's fault.

It's always the Dutch.

I really shouldn't have trusted a flower.

And a blurry flower at that.

@AstroCB And as for the bugs, it's not like bugs have ever been fixed quickly. More fundamentally, none of these are bugs that can't wait 30 days. You're literally helping a suspended user work around their suspension. There is no way you can put up a solid argument that what you're doing is in line with the intent. Moving it to the Den changes nothing, you and @Shadow are the primary users helping nicael work around it, I don't see how moving it to a separate room changes anything.

@JasonC I need that gif of Michael Jackson eating popcorn for this conversation.

@JasonC thx bae

@AstroCB Oh yeah that's totally way better, I'm sure there will definitely be critical bugs that couldn't wait 30 days for nicael to report. Very good point.

@AstroCB More like they'll be ignored faster, but...

If you all really think that it is actively harmful, I will disable it.

@JasonC What. If. nicael can get some of the Tavern popcorn?!?!

I get what you're saying about evading suspension, but I don't really think that it's a huge problem.

@hichris123 No, he doesn't get popcorn for 30 days.

@Shog9 ^ Can you please either make this crap stop, or tell me I'm in the wrong so I can stop fighting for it, or both? I'm sick of talking about it.

We all know that nicael will find some exploit that will break the suspension; thirty days is long enough for that.

Arguments against are so overwhelmingly weak I can't imagine why you'd even bother stating them.

@JasonC I do wonder what he will say, given that he's the one who banned him...

You're quite the weasel today, btw. :P

@JasonC But what if he could?? He could steal all of our popcorn! THAT'S A PROBLEM!

Is it sarcastic or sardonic?

Or satiric?

Yeah he can't have our popcorn. We'd have to call in agent Smith. What good is popcorn if you have no mouth?

D. All of the above

@AstroCB That's like meta-weasel. You know damn well that sarcasm doesn't come across in text. Don't pretend sarcasm is obvious.

@JasonC True.

We need a physical Tavern on the Meta.

Yeah we do.

SE should build us a room at HQ.

We'd still need at least one iPad or something for cat gifs.

Tavern on the East River doesn't have quite the same ring to it though.

Actually where are they

Oh they're down town kind of in the middle. Tavern on the 2 train.

Merged questions should really be marked somehow.

> Is it possible for fish to fall from the sky?

what the..

@AstroCB Yeah, or at least bring back happy hour.

The hashtags are even more disgusting.

I had to accept a while ago that ranting about the stupidity of hashtags was a losing battle. Utterly defeated on that one.

@JasonC the fifth column tactic works alright against that

@Braiam I was never able to gather enough loyal cohorts, though.

@JasonC get some then... :/

I can't because I'm suck.

Also it's an overwhelmingly massive opponent.

Dammit I wish there were some like, bug code of law in war that made it a war crime to give me bug bites on my knuckles.

It really crosses the line.

!xkcd find mosquitos

Hello?

Oh – updating that computer.